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Cristy, As a general rule we are all very well aware that when it comes to affairs of the penis most men tend to revert teenage boys when presented with a beautiful sensual woman and the very likely prospect that we'll get getting lucky. Its like our penis turns off something in our brains. I get so nervous when meeting with an SP that I actually have to consciously filter everything I say very carefully so that I don't end up blubbering on like a complete idiot. As a result of this conscious filter I have been told that I speak exactly like I write which is funny because in writing you almost always get a chance to proof read what you want to say before sending it out there. So I'm quite sure that in person I come off as a dork rather than a sauve and sexy gent. I've got to know one SP pretty well since starting and after many hours together I'm just getting to the point where the sickening nervousness doesn't get me and I'm just me. I'm pretty sure you can chalk those oddball comments up to nerves for the most part. However, the feet or voice comment I might make myself :)

Just wanted to let everyone know, that I should clarify what I meant by "dramatic". For those of us who knew her, in the light of what was happening to her at that time in her life such as her ongoing personal issues, which was soon followed completely unexpectedly by that overwhelming family tragedy, it is not surprising if she now remembers those events a bit more mystically than before. She was already having a tough time, and it only got worse. Trauma and tragedy amplifies memories.

Well lets face it we all can.:icon_biggrin: Lately I've heard a few silly comments, although I'm sure they weren't meant to rude, insulting or silly. But if I might say, gentlemen, when meeting an sp, for a good start to a session it might be a good idea to start off with a complimentary statement or just an I'm glad to see you, or it's nice to finally meet, ect, not......... 1.oh I see you fake your height! Well I am 5ft9, so no, but I do wear heels, like most ladies, and in them I appear very tall, over 6ft. So even though I know what he meant it wasn't the nicest way to put it. 2.Are those real? lol, well we all know by now! Do you really need to ask? Ladies nowadays add to their nails, hair, eyelashes and yes boobs, just appreciate them don't question them, not on an appointment at least. 3.Oh, your voice doesn't match your pictures, wha? So is that a good thing? This isn't appropriate either especially when you don't follow it up with a it's much nicer or it's sexier, some compliment.After all I have a nice voice! 4.How long have you been doing this? Wha-again, hmmm perhaps today I look a little more tired than usual? I wonder. But my response always will be -not as long as you!! Does it really matter how long either of us having been doing "this."After all you wanted to meet and we are both here so lets make it fun not awkward! 5.oh, your feet are soft! Ahhh, are'nt they supposed to be? 6.You seem very intelligent-seem?? Not sure how to respond to that one other than, well maybe thats because I am. These are the funniest ones of late , I had to mention them just to give some gentlemen an idea as to whats not a good idea to say-especially on a first meeting.

When it comes to making comments that you probably shouldn't most women have a strong intuitive sense about what type of man they are dealing with. (Maybe more so in this business.) Ladies can tell if your an insensitive guy who thinks he's hot shit or a genuinely good, loveable guy who has an innate ability to put his foot in his mouth. As such, usually the ladies reaction will correspond to the "type" of man who's made the comment. i.e. punch to the throat versus a playful tap and her saying, "you're terrible". Basically, be thoughtful but don't worry too much. If you're one of the "good guy's" the lady can tell and deal with you accordingly.

Makes one wonder about the mindset of some clientele. Are they really there for the experience of being with some marvelously gifted entrepreneurial person? One would hope that their brain was engaged when choosing a service provider for the date. Otherwise, they are really missing out, if they think all it is is the physical. I too have been speechless or a had a case of the starters on first introductions. But hopefully they have picked up that the reaction was due to the depth of presence and all that was conveyed. I admit once a sex worker gave me a quick visual flash while passing by. I forgot where I was driving my scooter for the moment and hit the restaurant wall. It did cause a bit of excitement with the maître d' and staff. I think I was more in shock then she was. The wall just came out of nowhere :) a humbling experience and the rest of the date went extremely well. PatrickGC

Sometimes the hardest person to be is yourself because everyone has an opinion of who you are/should be. Not only that but most of us have grown up being told we have to do this or that in order to please others or be accepted or to get along. No wonder it takes us so long to start listening to ourselves. One of my favorite sayings is "I never said it would be easy but it will be worth it". When you start listening to your heart and believing in yourself and keeping those who try to tear you down at arms length whether they be family or friends, it's not easy but so worth it. When you find yourself judging, step back to get a different perspective, look at how that person might have gotten where they are, not easy but so worth it. Trying to focus on the positive and turning negative into positive, so not easy but so worth it. It's even more difficult in this industry because you are judged on so many things and some that don't really mean much. This is when it's really important to believe in yourself and know who you are and what you have to offer.

Hi all this is outdoorslover under my new name. This is a thread i wanted to post for a wile as it is important to me. I have always been someone who stands out form the crowd and will not let people change the person i am on the inside. but because of this i have had a lot of people judge my without knowing who i really am, i have always been a bit over wait but have always tried to help anyone i can. people always jump to what they want to think with out seeing who the person is or what the situation is. i have had this happen to me even just this month, and i have even seen it here on cerb with a couple of people not understanding the situation some sp are in. I know this is just from my pov but i know lots of people who are great and wonderful but have been judged ether by there looks, opinions, or even for no reason at all and it is a sad thing indeed. I know that even people reading this will judge me as i there a nice person or a sap but this is who i am and what i think. and i want every one who reads this to not let others change who you are inside and to always see the true person in others. Again i think that cerb is a great place and most of the people here know this but i just wanted to give everyone a little pick me up just incase they needed it. I will leave everyone with a couple of quotes as i love them. "Never judge a mans actions until you know his motives" -Paulo Coelho "It is easy to see the faults of others but difficult to see one's own. A man winnows his neighbor's faults like chaff but conceals his own as a cunning gambler conceal his die" -Buddha "You're going to come across people in your life who will say all the right words at all the right times. But in the end, it's always their actions you should judge them by. It's actions, not words, that matter" -Nicholas Sparks Have a great and safe day everyone :)

Even as a confident, experienced provider like myself, I too have gotten nervous to meet a client for the first time. I have said some pretty silly things...like the Gent just told me what he does for a living, then stupid me, I go ask a 2nd time! Gawd, did I just say that??? I laugh at myself! So I would not think that Dumb is the word, just nervous, that is all. Most of the people I encounter are smart, successful men who just tripped over their words in the glow of radiating beauty, hehehe...

There are many less fortunate people around the world who are hungry or sick or forced homeless due to war or natural disasters or even closer to home those charities providing shelters to battered women and those help runaway kids or put food on the tables for the poor and carry out many other good deeds. There are many charities which you can find by a simple Google search and choose the one(s) to your liking. I can guarantee that you will be rewarded big time. Remember if your finances allow hobbying it also should allow you to donate to good causes a bit. Think of the sick and hungry and rest assure that you can't wish it away, but only if you act as the song says tears are not enough anymore. Forgot about political corruptions overseas (in Canada at least it goes to the needy so no excuse for not giving to local charities) as the established charities (i.e World Vision) have ways to ensure it gets to the needy, especially their impressive child sponsorship programs which you receive letters and pictures of your (sponsored) children as they grow up. If you don't believe in heaven then I promise that you will be rewarded in this world as I was today. Yes today when I was filling my tax return I calculated an impressive sum back as governments (both Federal and provincial) return a big chunk of charity donations (I believe as much as 35% to 40% of my total donation. Now the dilemma is whether I donate what I will receive back to charities or I would instead spend it on myself....hmmmm Oh I think I will act a bit selfish and have a combined strip bar/escort using a good portion of my return one weekend lol :).

I strongly feel the same hun!! I give to charities, weekly, monthly and daily:) I do it because I have been blessed with the ability to be able! It doesn't matter how much or how often! But rest assure, I try to make a difference to at least one person daily! I foster a child, I also help my beloved family in Cuba, the dogs I work with at my local vet, food banks that I buy a bag of food for, IT ALL COUNTS, FOR SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, SOMEDAY! thanks for this great post!

I can't remember the last time this happened BUT I am excited to say I didn't receive any cancellations this week, that's right, not one lol so I am a happy camper! A nice way to start my weekend with a big smile :)

I have found that it can be hit and miss on BP, although I have had some great visits with girls from there, the percentage of 'misses' is much greater that those I have met on CERB. I have had mostly good meetings with individuals here and they come across as more 'professional' and not just looking for the quick buck. There are those who advertise in both places and therefore can be 'cross referenced' is an added plus (seems to make good sense to me). I guess for newbies it is a matter of finding CERB in the first place and then using it as an added tool in your quest to meet extraordinary ladies. HHE

So you are aware it has been bought by different folks, and that the old management is gone, but you choose to libel the new owners/management as being harassers and exploiters? I would suggest unless you have some proof of your accusations you keep your libelous musings to yourself.

Well, I'm a stripclub fan as well as a massage fan, and the same questions get asked about both activities by fans of SP's. SP fans can't understand why you would ever go to massage, if you can go to an escort. And massage and SP fans can't understand why you would go to a stripclub. The answer is that each kind of activity is what you can make out of it. There is more service available at each of these activities than you assume. Also at a stripclub, you can find many different girls all in one place, and you get a chance to try as many or as few of them as you like, but you have the choice to pick and choose. Me? My method is to see a girl for usually no more than two or three dances, and move onto the next worthy one. It satisfies my need for extreme variety.

Oy, some of those are cringe-worthy. Speaking as a man, I can regrettably confirm that yes, we say some dumb stuff. On behalf of my gender let me say we appreciate that you all put up with us! :) As nlwoodchurck says, you can probably attribute most of them to nervousness. And Miss Sophia is right that the more stunning the Lady the more stumbling the man will likely be. So I suppose in a way you could take odd lines as a good sign.;) Nevertheless, Cristy, those are definitely some good tips for a first greeting you've shared. A few thoughts: 1) I'd never have equated heels with "faking height". I don't know many guys that don't think a Lady in heels is sexy, plain and simple (well, maybe "plain" isn't the best word :bowdown:). 2) I've never understood the need to ask "are those real". I'm more with the line of thinking "if I can touch them, they're real!" :) 3) A follow-up compliment confirming that by "not expected" one means "better than expected" is definitely the way to go (as an aside, you do indeed have a very nice voice!). 4) Facepalm. Nuff said. 5) I have to admit I can understand giving a line like this. Eyes are generally beautiful, feet soft, and hair shiny, but sometimes they are especially so and such observations can be hard not to make, especially if it's favourite a feature. 6) The dreaded "seems like"! I confess I've been guilty of this one in the past, and always want to bite my tongue once the word escapes. As you observe it's not intended to be rude but does turn a compliment into a puzzle. So yes people, for the love of god and chocolate (whichever you worship) leave out the word "seems"!

I love the quotes you provided, thank you.But unfortunately people judge, some do it purposefully and others without intent. But people are people no matter where you find them so there is no safe place to get away from judgement, other than within your own frame of mind. By knowing yourself and as you say by not allowing anyone to change your opinion of yourself. On one of my web pages I included a saying I copied, "what matters most is how you see yourself". No better advice imo. It's taken me alot of years to learn this and follow it but finally I do, there is not a person on this planet that will convince me that I'm anything other than a nice, genuine, kind and caring person, no one! Lol, although some try. I like your post, great advice and thank you for it.:icon_biggrin:

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." Mark Twain Strip clubs are NOT going away, at least in the immediate future. The argument that money could be spent with escorts or massage works HERE on CERB, not there in the real world. I'm pulling this out of my butt, but I would say that probably 90% of the guys that go into a strip club stop there. That's the extent of their naughty fun. They sit in perverts row, have a few beers, MAYBE get a couple of CR dances and go home to their wives... and they do that BECAUSE they can't get past that mental block of physical "cheating." You can get away with a strip club in terms of GUILT... and as long as the outlet to see naked women exists, men will keep going. The internet is like playboy or porn on the big screen - it's exciting but it's not IN YOUR FACE exciting. Locations may come and go... but the death knell for the industry is far from being rung.

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You don't want to work a winnipeg agency. They won't screen your clients and will take a very large percentage of your earnings. If you are looking for something safe and easy to get comfortable within this business I would recommend having a look at executive bath. They have a virtual tour that gives you an idea of the interior. I worked on and off there for several years. Management is strict but I do feel they want what is best for the girls, your uniform is a one piece bathing suit and you get to chill in jetted tubs, give massages and little happy endings. They aren't a FS establishment though some girls apparently break the rules. It's a good place to learn the clients, and get familiar with the industry without throwing yourself in head first. I found CERB had tons of info that helped me when I started as an Indie. I probably read the entire board 3 times at least.

Its been a slow day. My highlight is my 400th post. That and the sunny afternoon weather.

Speaking for Ottawa alone, the media now contacts POWER (Prostitutes of Ottawa-Gatineau Work, Educate, Resist), a local sex worker advocacy group made up of current and former sex workers when they are doing articles related to sex work. The fact that they are even thinking of sex workers themselves before doing their articles speaks volumes. Sex workers never used to be consulted before.

Not everyone knows about cerb. I can't tell you how many gents I introduce to our wonderful site and therefor I believe that not all ladies know about it either. This site grows daily and it grows because the users promote it! Diamonds can be found in any rough!

Lingerie at the door is definately not my thing. I prefer to have a "genuine" experience, which means having the SP dress according to the situation. For me, maintaining the illusion that I'm not in a paid scenario goes along way toward my enjoyment of the encounter. I wear suits everyday, and love when I can just kick back in some relaxing jeans and a tee and if given a choice I'd prefer to see an SP in the same way. I find something very sexy about seeing a lady in jeans a plain white top and bare feet. Casual, relaxed but smouldering hot.

Darlign gloryhole, I am truly sorry for your loss. I worked as a grief recovery facilitator for 13 years and I don't think you are ready for an intimate encounter at this point. I gently suggest you take a peek at The Grief Recovery Institute. They are leaders at helping people move thru loss and it's important that you address the situation head on. There are programs across the country and their handbook The Grief Recovery Handbook that you can pick up at any book store. Here is the website... http://www.grief.net/ I wish you all the best, please know there is a path forward... cat

Hey there sweetie. I love that you are still devoted to your wife and understand the pain you feel. I am not out where you are, but wanted to drop a line. Sometimes, it is easier to start new with someone different then someone similar then the love of your life. You have felt some deep losses and it is always hard to move on. Just take it one day at a time, grieve your losses, love the gift she gave you (your child) and understand it is ok to feel like why..... One day you will be ready. In the meantime, give yourself some time to heal and grow. It does not always make sense, but eventually you will meet someone you can share a new intimacy. Love and blessings. Meaghan xoxo

It's been in the news, and my heart just aches for that poor woman, Susan Griffiths, that had to travel all the way to Switzerland to end her suffering. We do it for our pets why shouldn't it be allowed for ourselves and our loved ones. It easy to understand the need especially when you watch a loved dwindle and die from a terminal illness, it's inhumane and demoralizing for the person dying to allow them to linger, jmo, what are your thoughts.

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I totally agree with you Cristy. I lost an uncle a few years ago to ALS (Lou Gehrig Disease). It was terrible watching him deteriorate physically, while his mind stayed sharp. I could see how it pained him - to be unable to do anything for himself, the physical pain, the mental anguish. I never had the courage to discuss it with him, but I wish I had. Personally, I know if I were to go through it, there would be a point where I would know that it was time to go, that my existence would no longer be what I would consider LIVING. To be a burden on my family, draining their resources, their physical strength, their mental strength, all the while extending my pain...it seems wrong on so many levels. In my view, an individual should be able to decide for themselves when its time to go.

Hello Cristy: It all boils down to just one thing, and only one thing. When a person's quality-of-life has diminished to the point where they feel more anguish in living. It is time to respect their wishes and assist them in dying in a manner and they choose. This is one of very few issues I take a very hard line on. I have seen personally, people suffer... A person must have dignity throughout their life! When people, groups and bureaucracies put themselves first, ahead of the person in pain, I become enraged. We cannot understand truly what the person is going through and our discomfort must take a backseat to their wishes. We can however, empathize with them; let them know they are loved and then, let them go with kindness and respect. PatrickGC

Feel the same way.., I though that general area was for all kind of miscelaneous post.. including just for fun post, questions.., and anything you can imagine...

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In terms of making gaffes outside the SP client relationship I have too many to list but here's one that happened last weekend. My wife is extremely beautiful and gets hit on alot and we were sitting around entertaining and her sister was there. Well they started a discussion about being hit on and my wife mentioned one guy who is always telling her how beautiful she is and it makes her a little uncomfortable and she said to me,"do you mind that other guys hit on me". I responded, "No, have you seen you, you're so hot it hurts! I can't blame any guy for wanting what I've got". So her sister chimed in that the guy had made comments to her too and even said that he thought my wife and her sister looked like twins. I turned and said, "My God no! You don't look anything like xxxxx (my wife), sure you're completely different shapes". Now I've known my sister-in-law for about 20 years and while there might be sibling resemblance they don't look alike to me. Well she was like very taken aback, out of one side of my mouth I said my wife was very beautiful and then out of the other side I told her sister that she looked nothing like my wife. Although, I actually don't find my sister-in-law all that attractive (she is but not to me) I had to do alot of back peddling damage control to save face.

To get this thread back to where Cristy originally intended I'll tell a story of one of my "Dumb" comments that after realizing it I still shake my head at to this day. On my very first visit with an SP I was "very" nervous about the whole experience including whether the lady would be pleased with how I looked (I didn't want her to open the door and think , "oh no"). This SP was an absolute sweetheart and could sense my unease and worked very hard to make my first experience a very positive one. One of the many comforting things that she did was pay me compliments about my dress and appearance. I am very self aware and have no illusions about what I see in the mirror but I found her effort was very sweet and I appriciated it. After we had removed our clothes and "played" for a little while I started to feel much more comfortable being with her on an intimate level and my guard (filter) came down a little bit. In another sweet attempt at further reassurance the SP commented softly, "you have a nice body". Now instead of my "filter" kicking in and me saying, "thank you, that's sweet to say" I waved my hands up and down my body (in a check me out fashion) and said, (in a "trying" to be funny tone) "It's all natural baby!". I'm not sure why I said that and I've pondered over it many times but what sounded silly and light in my head came out of my mouth with a tone sounding like, "baby, you are sooooo lucky to be with me". As soon as it was out, it was like I heard a needle scratch across a record and my minds filter screamed, "WTF you tool!". The amazing SP never reacted or said anything but I've always lamented that moment since. I've seen that SP a number of times since so she's getting to see the real me over time and hopefully will forget that innocent comment that came out like an arrogant asshole.

I very much agree with assisted suicide if that is the person's wish. I know for myself if ever I had a terminal illness or was heading into a situation where there was no hope for recovery I would like that option. Considering the healthcare resources that go into keeping someone hanging on, I personally would not want to be that kind of a burden when the same resources can be used elsewhere. In a no hope or terminal case I would like to go quickly and peacefully. There are others who would want to bravely fight to the end and I respect that choice as well. It's a personal decision for everyone and at the end of the day it is whatever brings you peace at that stage.

No worries hun, you always know what to say to make a gal feel good!

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I have to agree with you Cristy. I know only to well about this kind of quality of life. My Mom at the very young age had Alzheimer's and I mean very young. We watched our Mother die a slow and in a way pain full death. It took 6 years to take her life. We watched her ever day as the disease progressed to become an infant again. She could no longer eat, walk,talk or even go to the bathroom.She didn't even know who I was. In the end pneumonia took he life because of being bed ridden. Could I/we have allowed someone to assist her in her death? I know I couldn't make that decision,even though I knew there was no cure and the only outcome was for her to pass. She could not make that decision on her own because by then she would be considered of not sound mind or body. We are the greedy ones because we as human beings can't let go of a LOVED one. It is not in our nature. But yes I do agree with someone that is suffering should have a choice. As long as they are of sound mind, to make that decision.

I totally agree with you cristy if someone is dying and suffering they should have that choice I even think they should allow a nurse to go to a place of choosing where they want to die as well. My grandmother who was dying in a hospital be only wanted to die in here home at see all her kids together one last time but unfortunately we could not do this.

Kind of like Jumbo Video. Most of the video rental shops are gone, however there still is a market, only smaller. That last visit to Cabaret kind of did it for me, and I assume many others as these places are fewer in numbers. Not only in Ottawa, but in Montreal too. Ironically the lapdance did them in. Lapdances were becoming more liberal all the time. So what the client asks himself if this is going on and it's starting to cost me over $100, why not visit an MA? It's cleaner, more discreet and I leave satisfied. And there is the risk factor too, there have been shootings at three clubs, a fire at another one etc. The massage parlor at least the licensed ones are a safer, more discreet and more satisfying environment,

Was it a "full service" station?

It says I am in day 999, I thought I should start to post !! I wonder if I can get 5 posts in 5 days. Last purchase was a spring jacket, got a thing for jackets.

Also new to this thread...working in Niagara area, so close to Toronto!

Hello, I think I joined a month ago, slowly familiarizing myself with the idea of hobbying. Since then, I have looked around the site for a couple of times. I am coming to make concrete plans to see a SP for the first time. I am caucasian white (24) and interested in Asian SP-s. Oh well, hope the start will go smoothly for everyone.

Why yes that is me :) I am from Manitoba and that explains a lot ... right ?? and in my defense in regards to flashing some ass there .... the baler twine that I use for a belt for my Value Village wrangler pants broke...... don't buy the cheap stuff...

I totally agree. A real spinner if that is what you enjoy. Shes a great lady, friendly, fun, very cute and knows how to please, I can't see anyone being disappointed.

I've heard & seen fucking machines. I wonder if there are blowjob machines? Interesting concept. Maybe I should invent one?