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First, I will say don't be discouraged by these bargin hunters. Rates are a personal thing and if someone calls you and scoffs at them, it's not your problem. The service we provide as SPs is NOT a basic necessity but for some, they think it is and think they are entitled to getting a BJ for $50. Self entitlement for some plays a key role in our frustration as SPs as many of us think of it as a business while taking pride in it and not just slapping up an ad and expect to make a few bucks or whatever we can get. Once in a blue moon, I get asked "What can I get for $60?" To be honest, my smart ass bitchy inner voice would like to say " How about a kick in the pants!" However, I'm a professional so I grit my teeth and would like to rip my hair out when asked that question. Instead, I don't even reply. They are not my target market. Secondly, it's all where you advertise. If you are going on those so called classified sites where you pay X amount only to NOT find your ad there because their customer service department is crap, only letting you post a certain amount of info and they let competition flag your ad. What kind of business is that? I admit to using these types of in the past and have gotten some great customers but for every 10 callers, I found only one good customer who becomes a regular. Putting up with one liner questions such as "Rates?" "BBBJ?".. Again, this tells me they are out for the sexual act and not the experience. Since not advertising there for a long time, I have found better customers and already have a long list of established regulars and found that I don't need to use that site as much as I used to. At the same time, I am a seasoned SP and can weed through these guys like a lawnmower just based on the vibe I get from them, how they speak to me and the questions they ask. So once in a while I will put an ad there but often times have to put myself in a certain place to deal with those callers and not get frustrated. I was recently helping out a newer SP and I could see how agitated she was getting with being put on the spot and not being able to deal with the types of questions asked. I decided to answer for her so she could listen to how I spoke with them and it resulted in being a double edged sword with someone then asking about me and that I had the sexiest voice. Okay, that didn't work out too well. Third, are you just offering sexual acts or the whole experience? This will completely define your target market. Invest in your business and while you have to spend money to make money, it is well worth the investment. Advertising here is a great start and move onto a website along with banners. You will find that there will be less and less headaches of having to put up with these bargin hunters who don't give a hoot who is servicing them and completely limit their selection of woman based on price. The potential customer who is looking for the "experience" will take time to do his research and will have read and understand the information you have put out there in whatever type of advertising avenue you have chosen. In their eyes, they are hoping the experience you offer will be well worth it and if you are an SP who is good at what she does, you won't have a problem with this. In some ways, I can understand where these bargin hunters want the best SP for less in basic terms of receiving a service on a level comparable to other products or service industries but what they don't take into consideration is once again this service is a luxury and also we are not car tires or snow blower machines. They do not need a BJ as opposed to when they need to buy a loaf of bread to put on the table. SPs are not commodities although some men like to treat us this way. This has been the turning point in this business and it hasn't been for the best. They want everything for $60 but then feel cheated because they didn't get this or that, the girl was a clock watcher and kicked them out once finished to completion or the person's place was a dive. What do they expect for that kind of money? You get what you pay for in these scenarios. Don't let this get you down though. There are plenty of men who do appreciate us and understand where we are coming from in a business sense. There are a lot of behind the scenes work we do as SPs to complete the perfect ambience when a client visits us. This includes, cleaning, vacuuming, laundry, time travelling to various incall locations as in my case, making ourselves looks good. This is all part of the job and there is no way in hell, I'm going to do all that for a $60 BJ just because someone has money to burn in their pocket. The time invested has to be equivalent to the outcome and that is the rate we charge. Stick to your guns about what YOU feel your time is worth and put it out into the universe. Ask, believe and receive is my philosophy in this business.

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Business is booming for the sex trade in Newfoundland and Labrador, as workers in the industry move from walking the streets to posting online. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/05/06/nl-sex-trade-boom-investigation-507.html

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I suspect that those asking are the trolls and bottom-feeders who are looking for new girls who they can pressure into offering lower rates or services that they wouldn't otherwise. I'm going to guess that established providers don't see quite as much low-balling as 'inexperienced' girls who are just starting out in the industry. So yes, it probably works sometimes or they wouldn't do it. It does, however, answer the question of whether or not you should bother communicating with these cretins. Ignore them and they'll move on.

I understand the aggravation... but for a first timer, even that "hi" is a big step. This is not an apology for the guys that have been on the boards for quite some time or for someone that has had more than one experience. This is for that first timer. "Hi" is hell. "Hi" is scary. "Hi" means that he has stepped out of his comfort level, regardless of what it is, and decided to delve into a world that is completely foreign to him. We all know the media portrayals; rarely are they positive. But the guy that says just "hi" is going against everything he has been shown and everything that society has told him, and is entering a great big world unknown to him. He may have been debating that "hi" text for weeks. He probably wrote and erased that "hi" a dozen times on his phone and when he finally was satisfied with that message, debated again just pressing the "send" button. "Hi" means that he has decided on extra marital adventure for the first time. "Hi" means that he is lonely and doesn't have the social skills for intimate relationships in the real world. "Hi" means that he and his SO have broken up and is reaching for something to ease the pain for just a short amount of time. "Hi" means so many things, and it could be that you, the recipient are the one he has chosen out of a hundred other possibilities to help him. He doesn't know the next step. He's never done this before. He is scared. Believe me, he is petrified. You are beautiful and sexy and are offering him things that he hasn't had in a long time, if ever. He may stop at just "hi." That may have been the limit of his fortitude. He may just say to himself, "I can't do this." So when you get upset at "hi," please understand that at one time he may have been ALL of us, everyone who gets into the hobby for one of the multitude of reasons that we do the things we do. I apologize if I have offended, all I want to do is give some sense of what that "hi" was all about. I rest my case.

"many men" all also jerks. There. We got that out of the way. I sympathize with your observation about business slowing down. The industry I work in also has it's busy times and slow times. Comes with the territory of being a discretionary expense. And yes, we get the same guys calling us and trying to bargain down our rates. I've heard our dispatcher hang up on people who were too insistent on lowering the rates. Let me add my voice to the others who said stick by your prices. Your time is worth what you say it is. Hang in there and only accept clients that you feel good about accepting. Both you and the client will enjoy the ride a whole lot more that way. At least, that's how it works in my industry.

I think these things go in cycles. Only you can determine what you feel is a reasonable price for your service. I've seen instances where ladies have started to offer specials which I think is really a bad idea, as you get known for it and you drag the price down for everyone. All you can do is work a little harder at getting more calls, maybe a few new photos or adjusting the way you advertise.

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Here's me splashing about in the Windigo Falls in the Laurentides!

this year I am getting a boat to have even more fun at my trailer yay! cant wait!

It's been just over a year since I stumbled across this board and the awesome experiences that resulted. Feeling a bit nostalgic, I realized one thing made it just that much easier to get in. It's that first introduction. I found 2 or 3 MA's that I was thinking about seeing, but had absolutely no idea on what to say in the beginning. Keep in mind, I was completely fresh, and still oh so very innocent :p I had absolutely no idea what the etiquette was, should I be direct in what I was looking for? Talk about the weather like a good Canadian? Say my name and state what time I wanted to see her? I must have thought about that first email for over an hour. And when I sent it off, I was regretting every letter in it. Anyway, one MA gave a few suggestions on what specifically she was looking for, and it helped so much. It kinda normalized things for me, taking this horribly nervous guy to the next step. I appreciated that so much. Anyway, I just want to thank those who have that little bit of a guideline on what you're looking for, it's helped so much.

Found that intalling a trailer hitch to oull my new boat (used but new for me) is going to cost me half the price of what i had initialky quoted :-) yay!

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Since the vast majority of the population (99 % ?) has no clue about the industry or how it operates they (civilians) would have likely found the story quite fascinating and very titillating. Insiders will obviously have a much different perspective than the media and John and Jane Public for that matter on this topic. There have been stories about Fort Mac and lately from North Dakota a story about a shortage of exotic dancers and I think it goes hand in hand with boom towns. The very exposure the internet provides for meeting perspective clients also puts that same exposure into the public domain. And if I hadn't had some notion of the players exposed I wouldn't have given the story a second glance. The smoke will clear sooner than later and it will be (if it already isn't) business as usual. Peace MG

Thank you all is very kind to think of me :boobies: Bizou EvaCharms xxxxx

The Habs are great, always have been, always will be! :-) Additional Comments: ...and now I'm crying tears of love. Who'll comfort me, CH or OD? I'd rather choose Claire, thank you very much :-)

This woman's body is amazing.... don't miss her riding the bull in a wet white t-tshirt near the end. prrrrrr

This is a very highlighted day! Bikini weather, 3 day marinated steak with corn on the cob and chili-chive compound butter, Pinot noir, creme brûlée and coffee with baileys. Now, still in bikini, watching the Sens potentially kick butt while I am sitting outside enjoying a vodka! K, back to the game!!! Additional Comments: Might I add woohoo! Sens rock!

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I have to agree on this one with Sophia.., stick to yoir rates, you know what you are worth.., there is the guys that just shop around to find a "deal" what the dont understand is that they will get what they pay for... Until some one has had the chance to meet you they cant tell.., and is even worse sometimes as an MA because sometimes some guys (normally not CERB members) will think that just because you dont offer fs your services are not worth..., but what they need to understand is than visiting an MA and An SP are different experiences, and we do both in each case are spending time with them...

Sometimes we just need to weed threw the ones who are bargain hunters. If you stick to your rate, then eventually they move on to find the ones they can afford. I find at times it comes in waves, lol... After they have all contacted you, and you refuse to negotiate, they will simply go elsewhere, no need to waste time with tying to get them in your door, because it can become extremely frustrating and disheartening after awhile:( This is a luxury that not all can afford. Best wishes!!

As a hobbiest, when I request an appointment with a Lady, I consider that I do commit myself toward the provider. It happened to me a couple of time that I had, at the last minute, to cancel due to some emergency related to my work. In those cases, it was obvious to me that the burden of my hectic schedule could not be on the shoulders on the provider, and I offered the full donation, and supplied it. I expect from the Sp that she will be ready for me and available for all the time I've asked. When we agreed on a date and time, it is obvious that the Lady will prepare herself in advance, and her time is not only given during the appointment, but goes beyond. I would consider normal that, at least, the hobbiest offers a compensation, and, like I said, a full compensation would be appropriate. It is up to the provider to accept or refuse, but at least, she will have the possibility to decide what is the best scenario for her in the circumstances. My experiences with SP are only related to the CERB ladies, and I find that we have here the "crême de la crême" of people; to make that possible we have to treat the ladies accordingly.

This is me playing with Nuru gel in my bikini! :) it's fun!

Its being discussed in NFLD as well http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=130766 A deposit is one thing, but a lady with one add asking for full payment upfront is enough to make you start to think why? If a reputable lady only asks for a deposit, why would a basic unknown want a full payment, and WHY on earth would you pay someone you dont know upfront in full. Chances are she is not even in the city and it is an internet scam. This is a definite case of Buyer Beware.

I've been wanting to post a horoscope thread for a while. I used to be very interested in it for a while along with numerology, tarot and what not. Its fun and interesting to me. For now I'm just going to post a horoscope today and depending on popularity of the thread I may take the time to break down day by day, but lets get threw the first post first ;) according to Star this week: Taurus Apr 20 - May 20 Life is about to change, and love and money could become intertwined. Don't take your eyes off the prize - there is nothing more important now than building your future security. Gemini May 21 - Jun 20 Get ready for love to rock your world! But be sure to schedule time to do some serous thinking so that you can make the right decisions to move forward. Cancer Jun 21 - Jul 22 Be prepared for an exciting opportunity to come your way. Don't break a connection with someone special just because you hit a rough patch. You have a chance at new beginning. Leo Jul 23 - Aug 22 At work, it's the time to mastermind your rise to the top. It may take hard work, but the effort will pay off. To attract love, be the real you and nothing less. Virgo Aug 23 - Sep 22 You are headed into a lucky phase; be patient, and everything will work out. Connections at work bring new energy to your career. A heart to heart with a loved one can strengthen your bond. Libra Sep 23 - Oct 22 Someone can help you with a money issue, but you'll have to repay him or her in some way. Don't rely too much on other people; make your own decisions. Scorpio Oct 23 - Nov 21 Love becomes romantic and intense, and you like it! If you need to get your point across, speak up now. You'll get help with money from someone influential. Sagittarius Nov 22 - Dec 21 Just when you think you've hit your capacity at work, you get an opportunity you just can't turn down. In love, keep in mind that independence is important but so is togetherness. It's a good week to treat yourself to something special. Capricorn Dec 22 - Jan 19 People you meet now can set your career in motion; make sure you dress for success. A chance conversation could lead to bigger and better things. You may meet your one true love. Aquarius Jan 20 - Feb 18 Home and family are priorities now. Be creative and communicate to fix an awkward situation. At work, be politically correct. If you go over your bosses head, you are asking for trouble. When its about money, common sense rules! Pisces Feb 19 - Mar 20 A creative project gets the green light this week, so keep your mind open to new ideas. With family, remember that good relationships require give and take from both parties. Steer clear of complainers; they dampen your spirits. Aries Mar 21 - Apr 19 In love, don't expect your sweetheart to live up to some imaginary ideal. When communicating, try not to trade diplomacy for spontaneity. Career news can bring the promise of a new and prosperous opportunity.

Recently logged on to cerb to discover that Courtney from CMJ was in town for the day. I quickly sent of a text and she replied and the appointment was set. I have never had the pleasure of meeting anyone from CMJ. All I can say is WOW! When Courtney opened the door there stood one of the most beautiful young ladies I have ever visited. She has model looks and an very friendly inviting attitude. Conversation flowed easily the entire time I was there (there being an upscale hotel). She has a great outlook on life and work. She thoroughly enjoys her job and makes it a priority to ensure you enjoy her service. I found her massage to be very relaxing when it needed to be and intense with a little tease just to mix it up and wanting more. Her body slides felt amazing. What a pleasure to have such a beautiful body pressed up against you all the time looking at you and smiling that sweet innocent little smile. She definitely understands the at of the art of the tease bringing you close several times only to back off just enough to make it last a little longer. I can't reveal all the details but I will say I definitely understand how a massage from such a beautiful and friendly lady could become an addiction. I will absolutely repeat. On a side note, guys please keep an eye out for more CMJ ladies to visit. They are showing some interest in our city and if the response is good on our behalf we may see then more regularly. That is something K-town could definitely benifit from. Thank you CMJ and a thank you Courtney for taking the time to visit us!

Bags and bags of topsoil

Spending a good part of my day at the park, sitting down on a blanket, reading a book and enjoying the warm breeze! Just awesome!

Maybe it's time for another in your home town.

Thirty hours to thirty lovely ladies and thirty gallant gentlemen.

Enjoy your day, Eva!

Once you figured out all your cost and expense minus from your revenue and come up with your profit margin ask yourself is your time worth that amount? Don't cut your prices cause things are slow stick to them. If you really find you need more clientele maybe change your marketing, example get clients to keep comming back, maybe offer small discount to loyal clientele as long as its in you're comfort profit margin. But don't sell yourself short. My personal opinion, I shy away from the ones that offer service too low. They may be great but it leaves a doubt in my mind and worry that its to good to be true. I prefer quality then saving a few bucks but that just my opinion.

Being in business myself, I know that bad customer, those who always try to get "a deal" and negociate hard are the worse and most of the time they don't come back. I prefer to offer a high quality of service with the just price and have the customers that want quality. Those will come back and I want to keep them. In the courtisan/escort business, I think it all depends on the kind of business you want. In my view, it's up to the provider to evaluate herself the level of her donations. If the level of services is up to the level of her donation, then the client will come back; if not, you wont get any repeat business. And the repeat business is the one that makes you pay your bills.

You charge what you need to, that's up to you. Pressure from anyone should be ignored, if some guy is telling you your rate is to high tell him he is to cheap, tit for tat. Your rates are no ones business but your own! An sp has to factor in the costs of operating-examples-costs of upkeep on in-call locale, out-call transport fees, upkeep on car, taxes, clothing, lingerie, makeup, shoes, lotions, ect, ect and what she feels her "labour " is worth, then calculate an amount that will gain her a profit. If someone doesn't like that they are free to move on. I have never based my rates on anything other than what I have mentioned above, stick to your guns, :) all the best.

Sub-$200 is so 2000's. As far as I'm concerned, a good SP commands the rate of a good lawyer. Don't settle for less.

All the advice on here. Helpful information for me. I still get nervous when seeing a sp So thank you :)

Happy Birthday Eva! Enjoy your day!

I've met both Nathalie and Megan before, separately, so when they recently started offering massage duos... well, there was only one sensible thing to do. Sign up! And so I did. Making arrangements was quite ridiculously easy. And so I arrived at Megan's incall already breathless with anticipation... which meant that I had precious little breath to spare when this happened. And then this happened. Okay, that's not quite how it was - you'll have to imagine less underwear. You're OK with that? Thought so :) Well, the ladies didn't take long getting each other naked... and me too :) Off for a shower with Nathalie, and then back for a massage, which was awesome (I'm sure Nathalie and Megan had their hands on each other as much as they were on me, but I got to watch, so I wasn't complaining)... and then bodyslides. Lots and lots of bodyslides. And then an interlude so that Megan and Nathalie could give each other bodyslides. Which was... well... I'd say it was incredibly sexy, but it was so far beyond sexy that we're going to have to invent entirely new words for it. Hell, we're going to have to invent an entirely new language, 'cos the incoherent noises I was making at the time just won't cut it. There will now be a short pause for... recollections. Okay, thanks for waiting :) So... where was I? Yes, what happened after that... suffice to say it was the stuff dreams are made of. I know this with absolute confidence, because my dreams have been made of it ever since. Time for another shower to clean up (with Megan this time) and then, alas, time to go. But there will still be happy memories... lots of them.

As an avid dog worshipper, as I more than love them, its hard to pick just one, but since pits are my very favorite breed I will say petey, from the little rascals, a 1930s series. Then it would be that Dogue de bourdeaux from the Tom hanks movie Turner and Hooch

If you google the phone unmber you'll get lots of extra info on "Allison"

Kate is new. She just came here from Toronto. She's probably 20-25 small build. Wears big framed glasses as well but hers are the modern style not ancient ones

I'm so sorry for your loss, my thoughts are with you and your family. Thank you for sharing.

A soft touch on my face is a big one. Another one that does not happen too often is a long, tender hug. Which I generally associate with reconnecting with someone after a long absence. So I'm not sure if it's the touch itself, or more so the meaning behind it.

I just lose my uncle a few weeks ago. my siblings and I were very close and when I found out the sad news, I was at work. my bf wanted me to go home. But I tried my best to focus on work. I barely survived. But when I got home. my bf by literally ran to the door, while i was going the door. and gave me a hug. I just started crying. For me, its hard to talk/show about my feeling. I just take it one day at a time. I miss him greatly. And I know, he and my other uncle are watching over me.

My biggest celebrity crush is Louis C.K. That means, if I could meet, have lunch with or suck the cock of my choice of any celebrity it would be him. 'Nuff said! ;) I have always appreciated the qualities in men that are less easy to spot at first glance (sense of humour, among others), but especially since I started fucking such a wide variety of men, my tastes have definitely broadened and I find myself checking out all kinds of different guys when I am out and about. At the grocery story, waiting in line, I'll be checking out the chunky balding dude with his wife ahead of me, who is joking around with the cashier, and seems very friendly and polite, thinking to myself... I wonder if he likes to eat pussy...? ;)

No need to feel foolish! Hopefully you always got responses to those texts and the conversations did carry forward for you :) I personally have decided to start responding to every text that just does say 'hi', nothing else, with a standard response saying 'Hello! Please introduce yourself and let me know what you're looking for, thanks!. Unfortunately though, more than half the time no response comes back. I think this is why the 'hi' texts can be so off-putting at first - because even when we DO respond, nothing comes back. I guess maybe it's just nerves? Who knows!

This subject has hit me recently with events in my family. My dad has cancer (Stage III CLL leukemia, bone cancer and lung cancer) When he was first diagnosed, my reaction was normal, wanting him to beat cancer. When I saw him in January, he was skin and bones, if he looked any worse he would look like he came out of a concentration camp. He is alive, but not living. I've come to accept what the outcome of his cancer will be. I'm certainly not looking forward to that day, but I have accepted that it will come. When that day comes definitely I will be grieving. But even though I know that day will come, I can't yet grieve, till the day come. And grieving is part of the healing process. Now it is like being in limbo, not just for me, but for everyone, especially dad. Every time my phone rings my stomach churns, if it rings while I'm driving, I pull off the road to answer, just in case it is the call. The one positive is my brother, his wife, my mother and myself are closer now. Now my mother, not a case of grieving, but she had a cornea transplant. The surgery is over but requires post op follow up exams. So today I was in Hotel Dieu Hospital in Kingston, and again tomorrow, back down to Hotel Dieu. On the plus side, her eyesight is improving. On the down side, I'm beginning to really hate hospital waiting rooms LOL...ahhh it's the cycle of life A rambling RG

Some of the most amazing eyes I have seen are right here on CERB. Sandi