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Ladies... we are not that complicated. Really we aren't. Much like the Happy Hobbyist thread, I hope we can dispel some of the unknown mysteries of manhood... stuff that you may or may not have difficulty in grasping.... So here goes. 1. Answering Questions Men, as stated before, are not complicated. In fact, we are rather simple. Painfully so. Rather like rocks. Rocks that get excited by the sight of naked women. Frankly, when you ask us questions, we go into panic mode. Panic. Sheer terror. Don't get me wrong, it's not that we don't know the answer to things you ask, we just don't know that answer that can't be interpreted by you to cause tears or anger. Simple questions. Really simple questions. "What do you want for breakfast?" Ummmmm... if I say bacon, I am being insensitive to the needs of slaughterhouse pigs, her need to maintain a fat free diet, her Jewish friend Sarah that may drop over today, and to the mess that bacon causes in the kitchen. But I like bacon. I say, "bacon."... and she's okay with that. Whew. and then I say, "... and eggs." And that's when the tears come. I have no idea why eggs cause tears but they do. Now I figure that bacon and eggs are a natural combination. When I say "eggs" she believes that there is an ulterior motive. Like an affair. With an egg merchant's daughter. A younger, prettier egg merchant's daughter. That I have NEVER met. But because I have said "eggs", I won't have sex with my SO for a month. I am just glad that I didn't ask for orange juice. Men, well we say things because ummmm... it's what pops into our heads. There's no deeper meaning. Remember the "simple" part. That's us. It comes with a penis and testicles. Standard equipment. We selfishly answer simple questions with simple answers. 2. The Toilet Seat Men have the option of either sitting or standing to pee. It's one of the glories of being a man. We can step back a few paces and let a glorious golden arc escape us and giggle with manly glee that we hit a porcelain bowl dead in the centre with the acumen of ancient archers. We have been educated for years by our matriarchs that peeing on the seat is inappropriate. So we walk over and carefully LIFT the SEAT. We CHECK TO SEE WHETHER the SEAT IS UP. We use our man hands and manipulate the seat to a position that will accommodate our urinary delight. The seat is often callously left in the seated position by those who have tread before us. Undaunted, and in consideration of others we do not pee while the seat is in the down position. No. We check the seat position and lift it. See the theme? Ladies. You have eyes. You have lady hands. Manipulate that seat to the down position when you have to go pee. I know you can do it. You don't need to plunge your lady bits into an abyss of icy cold aquatic hell... check the seat position... like we do ... EVERY TIME WE PEE. more to come...

Actually douche bag and sex offender Remember, any unwanted sexual contact is a sexual assault. Seeing a professional companion doesn't give a guy carte blanche approval to do any sexual activity he wants, the lady's boundaries must be respected RG

I don't think you were wrong to ask, though neither do I think she was wrong to decline your request and end the conversation if that's how she was inclined. Presumably she has enough clients who are comfortable meeting her rate without question, that she can afford to screen clients who aren't. It's just one of those human things; you and the SP were simply on different wavelengths and it didn't work out. No harm, no foul, just move on.

A man who smells delicious. And is funny. Drool worthy. P.s. Wash your hands after peeing...... Yes i can tell if you did or not! :-)

It depends on the chemistry and hygiene to begin with but I know that I adore DFK and from personal experience, so does Sara McQuestion. Just look at profiles and ask the ladies directly, you will get a clearer picture. Because of the YMMV factor, one hobbyists experience isn't indicative of what you will get in this instance... cat

I wanted to take a few moments to thank not only the gentlemen but the entire Cerb community for one of the best changes I've seen since my return to the hobby ( had been gone since 2008 )... During the pre-chatroom era ( circa 2005-2008 ) I was often chastised for being an SP who wasn't a size 0. I'm a size 12. You know who else was a size 12? Marilyn. I don't need to write out her last name, you know damn well who I am talking about. Over the last few months, I can see that the diversity of cerbites has increased greatly, which shows in cases like preferable women's sizes no longer being a biased, one-sided affair. Even if women my size are not your cup of tea, the respect shown concerning "to each their own" is staggeringly exceeding my expectations. Thank you cerbites for believing in "all women are beautiful in their own way" !!! An especially BIG thanks to the mods also, as this chastisement was allowed to take place on "the other board" which is the main reason for my switch to this one only :) I love your no tolerance for BS! ________________________________________________ FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 1. Marilyn Monroe's body measurements: Height: 5'5 Weight: 118-140 lbs Bust: 35-37 inches Waist: 22-23 inches Hips: 35-36 inches Bra size: 36D 2. Dove's "REAL BEAUTY" campaign: http://www.dove.ca/en/Social-Mission/About-the-Movement.aspx 3. Definition beau·ti·ful adj. a) Having qualities that delight the senses, especially the sense of sight. b) Excellent; wonderful. beauti·ful·ly adv. beauti·ful·ness n. Synonyms: beautiful, lovely, pretty, handsome, comely, fair All these adjectives apply to what excites aesthetic admiration. Beautiful is most comprehensive: a beautiful child; a beautiful painting; a beautiful mathematical proof. Lovely applies to what inspires emotion rather than intellectual appreciation: "They were lovely, your eyes" (George Seferis). What is pretty is beautiful in a delicate or graceful way: a pretty face; a pretty song; a pretty room. Handsome stresses poise and dignity of form and proportion: a very large, handsome paneled library. "She is very pretty, but not so extraordinarily handsome" (William Makepeace Thackeray). Comely suggests wholesome physical attractiveness: "Mrs. Hurd is a large woman with a big, comely, simple face" (Ernest Hemingway). Fair emphasizes freshness or purity: "In the highlands, in the country places,/Where the old plain men have rosy faces,/And the young fair maidens/Quiet eyes" (Robert Louis Stevenson). 4. Most importantly: BEAUTY LIES WITHIN THEY EYE OF THE BEHOLDER

Agree many ladies that are not yet to be found on a review or recomendation Board non the less.., If she is new.. or did not have one yet maybe she could have just said "Sorry i am new in town, in the business" what ever her situation may be... " no I dont have any yet.." is not just about having or not any recos.. some ladies dont even want any... but is about honesty... avoiding the question is not the answer! Is about being a trust worthy person... I know that if I have anyone that asks for any reviews... i ll give them gladly... One of the most important thing in this business is TRUST and u gain that by being honest! and it works both ways ladies to gent and gent to ladies...

My first thought... Hummm, why is common sense called common sense when it is not so common? lol Now, let me go set up an appointment with my gynecologist and when I see him, I'll try to play doctor with him and see how far I can take it...

She may be new and inexperienced or she has something to hide. Admittedly, it is an SP's pet peeve when she feels like she has to justify her rate over the phone to a stranger but an experienced, reputable SP will be glad to direct you to a site where there are reviews/recos if she is sure of herself and her business skills. When I was advertising on that site once in a while, I would actually try and bring some of these guys over to Cerb or get them to join because all of my info and pictures are here. I had my doubts but many of them didn't seem to know what I was talking about ( I'm sure many knew about Cerb and already members but it seemed like others didn't want to take the time to register to look at album profiles and what not). I took the extra step to give them some sort of reassurance that I wasn't a fly by night but those who booked in the end said it was the genuine conversation I had with them over the phone and that I took an extra few minutes without being pushy. Go with your gut and you did the right thing by asking for additional info. It's your hard earned money and you have the right to spend it wisely. :)

There are many reasons to do this and as long as the reasons are good for you and important to you, then they are good reasons and it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. As was already said, attraction and beauty aren't just skin deep. Attitude, manners, sense of humor, enjoyment, openness, hygiene, a positive attitude etc. all play into making someone attractive to others. Don't sell yourself short based on what you think you see in the mirror. Most of us have a skewed perception of ourselves anyway. Most SP's will welcome you with open arms and treat you wonderfully as long as you follow their personal guidelines and the common ones of being respectful, clean and friendly. Nerves will be present but don't let that stop you from jumping on board and experiencing something wonderful. Browse ads and profiles and find someone who appeals to you then begin a conversation. Follow your intuition and enjoy!

I don't think you were wrong however, her not having recommendations and probably not being a member of a review board doesn't mean she is not a good provider. Maybe she hasn't heard of them or there are none where she is from. I agree with you, she was deffensive which was probably what caused you to decide not to see her but had she reacted different or if ever in a similar situation I would suggest to communicate a bit with the lady in order to get an impression on her and decide to book or not, not all ladies are active on boards same way us providers know not all gentlemen have a reference or are members in review boards.

As you said, any reputable SP's would direct you to reco's or input if there is any to be had. There are many threads on the business side where SP's discuss the importance of both client and SP making a good match which involves research. Personally it sounds like she thought you were questioning her rate not just making a statement about it. It was definitely a defensive reaction. I would assume perhaps a new SP and not one accustomed to the business. All the ladies I have read about here would (and do) provide links to their reco's and feedback consistently and some even have it on websites. They understand that sometimes to make a decision especially where money is concerned, you need to do your homework. My only suggestion would be if you run into this again, don't mention anything about the rate, instead ask for links to reco's or other information. Sometimes what you think and don't say works better to get you what you want with less hassle.

MsManda is another example of a SP who had her beginning on Halifax CL. It's the way it is, for every half a dozen WOT/WOM, you find a gem.

I certainly like how you formatted and never used the word "lost" in # 4 Directions. I am definitely a believer that a man is usually never lost but may from time-to-time be temporarily uncertain as to his exact postion.... Aviators as I am are vain when it comes to those things and admitting they may need glases (I finally did after 5 years of needing them).

Just thrown in for discussion, and my opinion only. If a touring lady is willing to commit to you to see you, (and that commitment requires an investment/expense on her part (airfare, hotel, meals, incidentals etc) ) show her the same commitment on your part. For example I cancelled last minute on a lady a few years back due to illness, but I paid her donation in full. Why, well why should she be out the expenses of touring, expenses she paid on the belief she would make a profit on the money spent on her expenses because a client who committed to seeing her cancelled at the last minute. Answer, she shouldn't be out any money Show the ladies you really want to see them. Maybe that means paying a deposit, maybe, as I have done, pay their donation in full if you cancel at the last minute. A rambling RG

Claire Heavens and PassionVitto are the new hot duo in O-town... what can be better than Passion in Heaven yay! Blonde and the brunnette! cant get any better! all thanks to Al from Quebec who brough us together! Thank you Al! It would have never happend if it was not for you!

Everyone has their own reasons for seeking the company of an SP. And that reason is the proper reason to see a professional companion, with the caveat that you are always a gentleman, and respect all of the lady's boundaries. Remember that SP's are professional companions, what is important to the lady is she is seeing a gentleman, good hygiene, pays in full etc. She would much rather see a gentleman who isn't good looking rather than see someone who looks like he should be on the cover of GQ, but has absolutely no respect for ladies. In short, your character counts a lot. That's coming from a guy who's overweight, bald,oops political correct term folliclly challenged, wears glasses and is in his 50's If your shy just tell the lady when you contact her so she knows. Also tell her it's your first time. BTW once you commit to an encounter, no matter how nervous you get, carry through with the encounter, don't back out. A few ramblings Good luck and have fun RG

I would say Katrine and Jessy are - by far - the best kissers I've been with. :bowdown:

Count me in! These lips were made for some serious DFK action. XXX

Celebrating one of my very fave anniversaries today. May 22, 1977 my buddy and I returned from work in Garland,Tx. and saw a note held down on the dining table by a beer bottle from our housemates. It said "thought you guys would want these". "These" were two front row, center tickets to see Led Zeppelin @ Tarrant County Convention Center in Fort Worth. The tickets were bought from a scalper for the astronomical price of---------$20 each, lol. Due to mass consumption of intoxicating substances, it's amazing that I even remember the show but I can, including the surprise appearance of Mick Ralphs for a dueling guitar thingy with Page to close the show. Just thought I'd share one of the fondest crank memories!

Thank you, everyone, for your contributions to this thread. That one should communicate and should not assume is of course good advice. In fact it was the point my questions were aimed at in the first place. I didn't, after all, ask "what does PSE mean?" My questions were what message SPs thought they were conveying if they said it, and what message hobbyists thought they were receiving if they heard it. My guess was that those were not always the same message: the discussion seems to confirm that.

Lol, I think that is cute hes telling you enough, you've been on this machine to long, time to pay attention to me. Sometimes our fur babies can be very demanding, just as we can be. But for all their quirks and annoying habits pets make the best friends:biggrin:

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think service providers are the epitome of the entrepreneurial spirit, and without contradiction by their very work and other choices clearly state that sex and emotional connection are critical to the human experience. Whether a person is public about this career choice or chooses to keep it under wraps is very secondary to the fact that they acknowledge that both money and sex are critical to a person's well-being in this modern world. In short, it takes real balls to be this kind of true frontier entrepreneur. It's a spirit I find lacking in general "out there" in the far too pasteurized world, where someone goes off on a bizarre tangent every few moments. For example look at some of the dialogues we've all seen on Face Book. But here at CERB, and a few unrelated underground sites, there is a real sense of community. Both clients and workers are passionate about what they do. Boy does passion ever bring people together. Just wanted to put that out there and say thanks to everyone. Let's keep on going. Take care won it all! PatrickGC

Thank you everyone for the helpful and honest contributions on this thread. :) I must say that I have been very lucky with nearly all of my guests being clean and fresh. This thread actually made me realize something though that I have neglected. When gentlemen arrive at my incall location and opt to have a shower, if they are washing properly, they will have washed away any previously applied deodorant. Things can heat up pretty quick sometimes and it doesn't take long to get sweaty again. Thus, I have added unscented aerosol spray deodorant to the list of toiletries available for my guests in my incall latrine. Other things include three different choices of body wash including an unscented variety, regular bar soap, men's shampoo, individual bottles of Scope mouth wash, gum, and unscented lotion. Please feel free to use any and all of them when you visit! :) Thanks! :)

For myself, I don't pay attention to it at all, I know the individuals that are quite worthy of more then their status-points etc etc where others have ballooned just way off the charts. I think the only I remember reading was your power level, far right in the 3 sequences of numbers, I think I'm around 185-190 which is power level? So I give and spread my points to those that are new to the board when they contribute or if it is a MA/SP I will for their ad. Those that have been given a god status since inception of the point system was at a time where the system was not calibrated correctly it was actually getting out of control IMHO. Some of us actually lost our God status and now have the 10,000 points or more status, but seriously I think it is also trivial as well. It needs tweaking,it does need to be debated within Mod and council in my opinion. Perhaps a format like twitter "favourite" a post with nothing attached to it.

I am glad I fulfilled my curiosity. I contacted Jenni and she was very friendly. I requested an outcall from her as I was kinda tired and decided to get some TLC on a whim. She was nice enough to cum to me, even though she had an incall ready to go. I gotta give credit where its due guys, this girl is a lot of fun. She made me very comfortable and was very sexy at the same time. As soon as she got inside my place, she revealed a very sexy outfit consisting of lace lingerie and heels. This girl definitely has an ass for banging. She looks so much more sexier in person than in her photos. Those pics definitely do not do her justice. Despite hearing that she offered bbfs, this was not the case, this girl plays safe as I do as well. Although she gave an amazing bbbj, Jenni is orally skilled, she definitely knows how to utilize her tongue ring. I really enjoyed watching her lips around my pole, going up and down while I played with her shaved pussy. She has a sexy body, gotta enjoy those legs. Not spinner and not chubby at all. Very well balanced. After the bbbj, I couldn't wait to stick in her. I gave it to her wet pussy from behind and decided to finish off with greek. Let me tell you, she enjoys what she does. And she loves all of her holes being used. I finished intensely in her tight asshole while she was finger her pussy. What a night. I hope you guys decided to give her a chance. She is definitely a hard working pleaser. Cheers.

I think the greatest show of appreciation would be to see her (or see her again) :)

All good points. However it was best that you both did not meet. As mentioned above their are many good ladies on this site (if not all). I think it just went off on the wrong foot.

Frank Sinatra-Something Stupid RG

3. The Man Cold The Man Cold is devastating. Millions of men suffer the intolerable cruelty of the Man Cold every year and yet, no research money is ever devoted to fight this dreadful pox upon my people. We tried to have a marathon to raise money, but sadly, an outbreak of Man Cold emerged and nearly killed all of the runners. Historic fact: By August 1945, the USA had developed two weapons to drop on Japan in an effort to end the Second World War - the Atom Bomb and the Man Cold Bomb. President Truman decided that the Atom Bomb was the solution, he said, and I quote, "If we drop the Man Cold bomb on the Japanese, we will end one war and begin another. No other nation would ever trust us again. The Man Cold bomb must NEVER be used. The Atom bomb will kill thousand of Japanese civilians; the Man Cold bomb will make them suffer abject misery forever." Do you understand??? People chose atomic weapons OVER the Man Cold because they were being good hearted. It's just that bad. So please, when you see us suffering the indignity of the Man Cold, treat us gently. Bring us single malt scotch, bacon sandwiches and occasionally grant us the relief of oral sex every 4-6 hours. It's not much to ask to ease our suffering. 4. Directions There is an instinctive aversion to ask for directions based again on sound historical footing. Moses. Remember Moses? Old guy in a toga with a long curly beard, kinda looked like Charlton Heston??? That guy. Moses had freed the Israelites. They were headed to the promised land. He had a good idea where he was headed. Then Mrs Moses and her sister in law, Mrs Joshua went up to Moses and said, "Why don't you ask the nice Egyptian man over there if he knows the way?" Moses, was a people pleaser. So he asked. And you know what? The Egyptian guy was an asshole. He sent them the wrong way. The wandered in the wilderness for 40 frickin' years, because Moses the people pleaser, Moses the listener, asked for directions. Then there was Napoleon... little guy always scratching his tummy. Napoleon wanted to take his guys on vacation. He stopped and asked another Egyptian which was the way to the beach. The Egyptian guy gave him directions. Napoleon ended up in Russia. In winter. Facing angry Russians. With bellies full of vodka and sticks up their butts. All of Napoleons guys died except for the few pissed off guys that came back to France with him. Napoleon asked for directions. Amelia Earhart asked for directions. The natives, counselled by an Egyptian, sent her to someplace that didn't have gas for airplanes, attacked her and ate her. Bad things happen when you ask for directions. BAD. THINGS. That's why we have natural pathfinding skills. We are instinctive. We have a secret GPS. And we never trust Egyptians.

Drumming Song - Florence + the Machine

flirting with my favourite clerk at the grocery store. I think I need to go back and pick up bread!

For me, it's not so much noticing the little things when they're right as it is noticing the little things when they're wrong.

Violet wands are modern electrical sexual or kink stimulation toys. They are used for the application of low current, high voltage (min 35 kV to max 65 kV typically), high-frequency, electricity to the body. They are most commonly used in BDSM though erotic sensation play is also possible with them. A violet wand typically consists of a hand held "wand" made of plastic which encases a high voltage electrical transformer. The base of the handle has a permanently attached electrical cord which plugs directly into a wall outlet. Though use of a GFCI is recommended with some wand designs, to protect from surges. The wand has an intensity level control and sometimes an on/off switch, usually located near where the electrical cord is attached. Some models operate on an electromagnetic disruptive discharge circuit while others are powered by electronic circuitry (called solid state wands) or combinations of the two. Various electrodes are inserted into and used with the violet wand to provide the sensations. A violet wand electrode is usually made of clear tempered glass which is sealed and evacuated and back-filled with a noble gas, typically argon and sometimes neon, in a process similar to the manufacturing of neon signs. The high voltage current causes the plasma inside the electrode to excite, emitting a glowing color when the wand operates and through which the spark emits. The appearance and process is identical to plasma globes, though the net discharge is higher in order to create spark streamers external to the glass which cause the desired sensation to the skin. A violet wand creates shock sensation when there is a gap between the electrode or the attachment and the body. As the wand is held near to the body, the spark will jump, providing the sensation. Full contact with an accessory creates a slightly warm sensation, but a violet wand provides a wide range of physical sensation properties with different settings and attachments. Some typical uses for a violet wand include temporary or permanent branding of the skin for Body modification, electrically charged impact with paddles or other conductive implements, electrified touch or massage, or erotic stimulation of the genitalia. Violet Wands can be used anywhere on the body but should not be used around the eyes. The following 'terms for techniques' were standardized by the International Violet Wand Guild c. 2005. Direct Users employ a violet wand by using various accessories which emit sparks for different physical sensations and purposes. These accessories include electrodes made of glass or metal and other conductive accessories and attachments. In-Direct Utilizing a body contact accessory the person holding the contact becomes electrified to the touch. Any part of the body can be used to pass the arc to the recipient. Additionally the person holding the contact can utilize any conductive material as an accessory. Reverse Users employ a body contact accessory by attaching it to the bottom subject, which electrifies the 'bottom' partner, and then conductive accessories are used by the top partner to electrify the bottom. Extension Using an extension handle and cable, allows the most net discharge current to pass to the subject. Extension handles are used with many electrodes and accessories. Branding Through the use of certain condensing electrodes, violet wands can be used to effectively "brand" or cauterize a design on an individuals skin which makes them popular in body modification. Violet wand brands can be semi permanent or totally permanent and are an easy and inexpensive method of "scarification" (the act of intentionally scarring ones own body) often used by professionals and avid enthusiasts alike.

Well, my name is Stacy... and to be honest I was listening to the song "Stacy's mom" (yes i know its an old song, but still so funny! lol) and thought hmmm..... my mom's hot (for those of you who know the song you'll understand).... I should call myself Stacy muahahahah :P xxx

I like all sort of accents. But I must confess I'm fairly bilingual French/English so on a few occasion I've met French woman and don't tell them I can speak French just to listen to their sexy accent:) it's not my fault they don't ask lol!

Now that I've had some time to think more. Cleo Catra has interesting ad's, they caught my attention and convinced me to see her :) Tiffanyxxxooo has always interesting headlines, that make me want to read the rest of the ad's. Sasha - the german, has funny jokes and sometimes puzzles. Midnite-Massage - interesting sexy Titles.

Maybe she needs to be humiliated for her lack of response. keeping all of us waiting like this. I say we put her in a room to be spanked by us all. on Display like a piece of meat we are waiting to devour. all of us....watching....waiting...for our turn to leave our mark on her. I cant wait to see her cry. the wetter the better. Wet at Both ends please.

it depends on what for? prettiest bar in my opinion is the den. great stage too. best money? the fax best atmosphere? barbs. depends what you're looking for and what you can put up with. some have stupid rules, bad stages, awful managers etc Megan

I have always loved a good old East Coast Canadian accent. :) So friendly and casual. I love the slang too. Hilarious! East coasters are always so loveable! Never met one I didn't like! :biggrin:

French, Irish and Aussie. Especially Aussie lately...>.<

I think its best to never assume anything about a service and who provides it as we are all different but here is a link to what cerb has posted concerning these terms. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214

Use your common sense!

You should put a link to her ad. This is definitely a scam or a setup of some sort, why would someone leave anyone cash at anyplace other than her hand or on a table at her locale, why would she ask you to? It doesn't make sense, so you are right too be suspicious!

I know you are posting this with humor but I feel bad for your old pet. The fact that he is going pee on your floors and if this is new sounds like he is losing control of his bladder and sorry to say the out of the blue walks around the house may be pacing a sign he may be losing some of his other senses . Also the fact that he growls when you try to boost him up on the bed or sofa may be a sign that there is pain when he is touched. You are lucky to have him for so long but try to be understanding, although constant and repeated behaviors can be annoying to you those things like peeing on the floor are embarrasing for your poor old dog. The have pride, try and be patient with him and treasure the moments you have left with him, sounds like hes been a good and constant companion.

Okay... ummm... Fat Bastards BBM offers ... umm... duos too, yunno. Me, Phaedrus, Lee Richards and HFX Andy are all over that duo stuff like, ummm.... well things that go kinda uncomfortably together. It's like we... ummm... have rules though. We aren't really interactive. I mean we are in the same place together but we all have separate rooms. So if you wanna like do one of us and then run down the hall and do another of us, like, that'd be cool. We could even run three-os or even four-os if ya want, but that's quite a bit of running for you and Andy's room isn't on the same floor. You might wanna bring wet wipes and your own towel. Just sayin.'