Leaderboard

Sorry I completely disagree here. This thread has gone on and on, and personally I am sickened by reading alot of what has been written here. I travel ALL across this country of ours and my donations are the same in every city and it is NEVER an issue (I dont offer discounts, not even on multi hours). When I have visited Kingston in the past, I never altered my rate and it was never a problem, so don't go telling these girls that they should change their donation to reflect the lower economic standing in a city, that is complete bullshit. The expenses are still the same regardless to where one travels to, so why would one cut there earning potential to travel somewhere? If you cant afford it save up, this a luxury not a necessity.

:) hehe

I like to open up with a game of tiddely winks.... let the girls win. Then a game of croconole... let the ladies win again of course ;) Then I think ..... well that isn't so much fun so I says to myself ... "Hey self....maybe oral sex would be more fun ? How's about you sit on my face ?" Everything after that is a bit muffled .......... ;)

I have gone thru all of the responses. I have calculated each persons input, and put them to a spreadsheet. I only counted each persons response once to avoid double entries. Here is what I have found. Total number of responses 54 Providers responses 25 Hobbyists responses 29 Providers saying no to this 23 Providers saying yes to this 2 Hobbyists saying no to this 24 Hobbyists saying yes to this 5 Total saying No to this 47 Total saying yes to this 7 So, if my math is correct (and I will be the first to admit if I am wrong). Total % of Providers saying no 92% Total % of Providers saying yes 8% Total % of Hobbyists saying no 83% Total % of Hobbyists saying yes 13% Total of all respondents saying no 87% Total of all respondents saying yes 13% So, keep debating this one. This is an issue that unless you are the one providing the service, you will never truly understand. We can try to help you to understand, but if you choose to stop listening, and only do the talking, and trying to convince others why your answer is correct and the majority clearly state it is not correct, you will continue chasing your own tail. By the way, to the one who is sending out the following email to several providers, cute: Hey sexy, love your pics. What does $20 get me?

Go back and read my previous post on how some (many) providers make this service into a commodity. You can look at this through "rose coloured" glasses all you want, you can claim it is such a different service that normal market forces and practices don't apply, but the minute the people providing the service turn it into a commodity that argument goes out the window. For example how many providers have a disclaimer like this on their site: "This website and the information contained therein do not in any way imply sexual services. Money exchanged is for companionship only and anything beyond that is a choice made between two consenting adults." Yeah, really nice and idealistic. Then you go into the website and you see services described, Greek for $20 extra, BBBJ pay $30 more, no watersports etc etc, then it becomes clear that despite the nice "companionship only" disclaimer, what is being sold is sexual services. As much as many would like to think otherwise, that is the truth. And then there are the "half hour specials", Canada Day specials, two for ones, not a clock watcher etc. etc. The only thing missing is the flashing blue light and the "Attention K-Mart shoppers" announcement on the PA. (sorry for the dated reference but I am sure some will get it) So the SP has a choice. They can advertise "no negotiating", or they can say it when they communicate, and if the potential client tries to negotiate then you politely end the conversation and put them on the "do no see" list. The problem is again, is that some will not do that. They will argue, try and get the customer to see the error of his ways etc. Why? Because they don't want to lose the business. For lack of a better term, they want to "make the sale". And you know what, both the potential client and the provider are just doing what is human nature. There is nothing wrong with it, just a fact of life and of doing business.

Fucking. Sucking cock. Yep, those are my faves :D

Negotiating is one of my professional areas of expertise (large construction and/or service contracts, sponsorships, labour contracts etc.). Most (not all) of what is being described and discussed in this thread is better characterized as haggling or asking for a price discount, not true negotiation. Negotiation involves an exchange of interests, building a relationship for the future and multiple variables that can be grouped in different ways to create value for both parties. Sp services would be akin to personal/consulting services contracts. In these service contracts hourly rates are not negotiated. What is negotiated is how much time, effort and quality is expected in the service provided or product delivered. Even then, there is a service threshold below which a company will not go just to obtain revenue. This is because the quality of service will be below their standards and will affect their reputation and future business. With the exception of a Sugar Daddy arrangement, there doesn't seem to be much room for an sp to negotiate the quality and quantity of service while maintaining their service standards and hourly fee. Here are a few examples of discount, haggling and negotiating. Price Discount A price discount usually involves a percentage or flat fee discount off the usual price in an attempt to increase volume (e.g. summer specials, early bird discount). The seller sets the discount rate, announces its terms and the length of time it's available. Some sp's advertise these discounts. Others may provide price discounts if they have received a retainer (cash in advance) for multiple sessions. The client doesn't "negotiate" you pay the advertised special rate. Haggling Haggling works for sellers when there is no posted price or the posted price is higher than what they normally accept. The seller tries to get the maximum amount of money from each client. (Think Moroccan market). The client asks the price or offers an amount. The seller responds with a price which is higher than they were offered and is in fact higher than what they usually accept. Back and forth for a while. An unsophisticated client will pay more than others. So gentlemen, be careful what you ask for! In addition in an Internet age the various prices will get around and damage the sp's business. Some men will be upset they paid more than others, while others will now only pay the lowest price they've seen quoted by other clients. Haggling works for a purchaser when the price is fixed but there are overhead costs (e.g delivery, installation etc) which are built into the business and the seller has some flexibility to "negotiate " those costs. While sp's have overhead costs, there aren't a whole lot of flexible costs that they can discount, without it coming directly out of their purse. I suppose if you wanted to try their make up on, they might indulge that for no extra charge lol. But don't touch their shoes or stockings lol Forbes magazine describes haggling as short-sighted "Which is emotionally charged, combative... that leads to low-quality solutions and results in lose-lose outcomes." Negotiation Here's an example of defining the terms of a Sugar Daddy relationship which involves true negotiation, but which I don't believe can apply to a 30 minute to multi-hour appointment with an sp. A client approaches an sp about formalizing a Sugar Daddy relationship. They discuss whether it will be an exclusive relationship, the net income the sp expects to make, the frequency and type of services which will be provided. How much payment will be cash and how much will be Value in Kind (e.g. housing, grooming, clothes, travel etc). How much cash income does the sp need (car payments, tuition, entertainment etc.) Let's take one element, housing. Maybe the Sugar Daddy offers a high end condo that he owns to offset some of his cash fees to the sp. Maybe the sp doesn't want to move. Maybe if she moves, she wants a lease to guarantee a one year occupancy and 2 months notice in case the relationship doesn't work out. Maybe the Suggar Daddy wants to assign a $3000/month market value to the condo as part of his cash and Value in Kind offer. The sp responds that even if it's worth $3000, since she's only paying $1000 a month rent now, she can't afford to lose an additional $2000 income just to live in greater luxury. My point is that there's a complexity to "negotiations". There are lots of variables in play. Each party describes their interests, but they also try to understand the other party's interests and satisfy them. They also want to build a long term relationship with a win/win solution. Asking for a discount on a one hour session or offering the $200 bucks you've got is not negotiation. Personally Personally, although I'm very comfortable negotiating, I don't try to negotiate, haggle or ask for a discount from service providers. I understand, accept and appreciate that the service providers I see, and most of those posting in this thread, operate on a fixed price model which is common for most goods and services in North America. Just accept and respect that. On a lighter note... If you've made it this far. When I typed "Maybe the Sugar Daddy offers a high end condo" autocorrect changed "condo" to "condom" lol

So I have read through all the pages of this thread, and would like to suggest that perhaps there is some misunderstandings of intent or arguments of semantics happening. I'd like to propose the following statements, worded as straightforwardly as possible: 1) It is a lady's right to charge whatever she wishes. 2) It is a lady's right to offer/advertise her own specials or discounts. 3) If a certain service doesn't have an advertised rate, no one will mind if someone inquires what the donation amount would be. 4) If a rate is listed or provided, it is in everyone's interest and good etiquette to accept that as the rate. 5) If you don't accept a lady's stated donation amount or make repeated attempts to argue it, you're likely to get an inferior experience at the very least and quite possibly blacklisted. 6) If you insult a lady because she isn't willing to lower her rates at your request, then you should be hung upside down and repeatedly whacked with a herring. There has been some interesting discussion on this thread and certainly there have been points requiring clarification or that people have disagreed upon. But I think at least some of it has been with people arguing at cross purposes when on the main issues I suspect everyone in fact agrees. If I'm wrong and someone does disagree with any of the statements above, please speak up and we can better see where we actually disagree. Cheers all, I'm out!

Well lets discuss the definition 1 The customer wanted to negotiate over the price The ladies set their rate. What is to negotiate. Their rate is their rate, end of story 2 We negotiated a fair price Fair in who's eyes. This lifestyle is a luxury, not a necessity, and stating you are negotiating a fair price presumes the ladies' rates are unfair. Whatever the lady charges is a fair price, it isn't for you, me or any other man to question You ask a lady to drop everything to see you. If you ask her what her rate is for the inconvenience of running to Kingston to see you, that is not negotiating, you are asking her what her rate is. Once she tells you her rate, that is it, it is her rate. You don't negotiate over her price, and whatever price she sets is a fair price. Plus don't be surprised if travel costs are added to. I know with some ladies that I see in Toronto if I stay by the airport there are travel fees just from downtown Toronto added to the donation As a sidebar, assuming the lady is in Ontario, you could always travel to the city she is in to see her, hell all my encounters I travel to see the lady, be it in Toronto, Kingston, London, Hamilton, Ottawa. Not only do I have travel (gas) expenses, but hotel as well so I have a very good idea and appreciation of travel expenses . So if you want her to travel to see you, don't be surprised if her rate is actually higher than posted on her website. And that isn't negotiation, that is finding out what her rate is RG

I believe that is why the OP referenced the smoking as a fetish. Many things that wind up one person's fetish motor completely turn someone else completely off. Part of the joy of Sexuality is the wide variety of it all.

I'm with emily on this....i have only read two pages into this and still have yet to believe this thread has lasted as long as it has. if it was said already...I apologize but would you go into a high end restaurant wanting a steak and saying you could eat cheaper at mcdonalds and have in the past? well great! go get your macdonalds but you will get what you pay for. but dont tell the 5-star restaurant that they should consider lowering their prices because youve eaten for less elsewhere. also put yourself in the shoes of anyone who gives such an intimate service to you and ask yourself how you would feel if someone tried to get you to perform that service for less...just because you guilt them that this is what other people are doing. SO WHAT?? no reason really is good enough for someone to ask you to lower yourself to any lesser standards. as for the Kingston comment....I have had clients ask me to come see them in kingston or outside Ottawa and many girls will agree when we say that we charge for travel time....not LESS....and I'm pretty sure thats the norm. if you have a better deal than that...awesome.....keep seeing that provider but dont try and educate us on why our prices are "wrong" or let one exception make you the expert on "the rules" guys.

I really enjoy having a little passion to my dates. So I must have a lot of kissing, caressing, then I love to go down on the lady and stay there for a while and even getting hard love muscle licked and sucked and finish any old fashion way.

My CERB handle pretty much says it all. Give :cooter:, receive :bjs:, give & receive :69:, rinse and repeat. :cool:

Just to add, a little remark. Some ladies that may have a web site, may not have longer appointments (3-4 hours) remarked in their information for rates. When I ask about the longer rates I might get back "I never have been asked for a longer appointment,does $$$ sound okay? " So in my mind there is a part of a negotiation happening, and those that don't have a web site, may only advertise the 1 or 2 hour rate, and the gent has to ask that question, that is a start of a discussion and negotiation, not that I ever had try and wiggle her rates off what she wants to charge, but it has open the floor for discussion.

When you say negotiating is wrong or not acceptable is this opinion or facf? A lot of ladies welcome negotiating. Some go as far as to to advertise it. Why deny them their rights and freedoms to run their business as they see fit? If you don't deny their rights on this then why think its wrong when a guy thinks negotiating is ok when it runs like wild fire in this industry. There is no one size fits all on this subject. Different strokes for different folks. No one can come in here and unilaterally set the guidelines for this multi million dollar industry. For those ladies who do advertise that rates are non-negotiable this should always be respected.

Pretty much play it by ear, but I like to start by exploring her body all over. Caressing, kissing, touching. Usually progresses to DATY, which is one of my favourite activities. I could stay there a long time if she seems to be enjoying it. After that, I let the moment take us. Some ladies will guide you, some will want to know your preferences. It's all good to me. As long as we are both having fun. I usually put off intercourse as long as I can, as it is the suspense and anticipation that builds that makes it that much hotter for me. Life is a journey not a destination. Is it getting warm in here?

I didn't get a chance to read all 14 pages of posts, but I'm glad I found this thread! I've grown very irritated at potential clients who feel the need to try and wheel and deal the situation. My rate is the way it is because that's how much I feel my time is worth. Always a good time too if I might add :P Recently, I had a client ask me how much my donation was, gave him the answer and he replied with; "That's alot and only worth it if I can do anal bare back" ..........uhm...........gross...no amount of money is worth losing my health in anyway..basically I told him not to contact me again, which in turn...he then called me a "Whore" not sure where these people come from...but its shocking someone would resort to any sort of name calling especially to the person your asking to have an intimate service with. Fortunatly I've resorted to just blocking such clients from contacting me because I dont feel like I should be degraded in such a way that they feel like I'm only worth the money if they can stick it in with no protection...again....gross... That was my lil shpeel :P

Same in Edmonton. Having a close friend in Vice, I am aware of online investigations being done on a regular basis, with PM'ing to try and get deeper into detail. Main focus is pimping, gangs, underage, forced to be a provider, drugs or any other illegal activity. I will not Pm a newbie, or anyone who doesn't have a decent post record along with reviews or a history of reviews. The newbies are also trying get info on their competitors and go online to trash their reputation too. I realize I was new on here once too, but I did not come on searching for details. There are many ways to do searches and contact the ladies if you are serious to meet. Once I have been on a while and have interacted on posts with other members, I have on occasion PM'd them about various ladies just to confirm my interest.

Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa September Social will be held Thursday, September 19th, so mark your calendar!! There will be 60 spots available (30 gents and 30 ladies) for members in good standing. Gents, tickets will be made available soon, at a cost of $35, which will cover snacks, drinks for the ladies and door prizes. I will keep everyone up to date via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by CERB members for members, you can contact myself, Loneskater or Spud271 directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

I like Meghan because she just made me smile BIG time! She's also lovely! *rawr* I like fiskaa because he too made me smile and gave me plenty of mental fodder too!! *spank*

I have recently returned from a four day business trip to Ottawa, the first time I've visited that wonderful city. While the conference I attended was great, it cannot hold a candle to my experiences with three of the lovely ladies of CERB Ottawa: Sexxxy Rebecca - http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=491611#post491611 Sweet Emily J - http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=491654#post491654 Passion Vitto - http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=491669#post491669 My problem upon arriving home however is that I have picked up a horrible syndrome I am calling "Post CERB-lady Depression". :( Being married and living in the States about 4 hours drive from Ottawa, I am not able to visit when I want to ... which, after my experiences last week with the lovelies I wrote about at those links above, would be pretty much every day. :D Sure, I can visit CERB and interact with them and the other ladies of this community, but it just won't be the same. I seriously don't know how I'm going to get through this depression, but thankfully I have some fantastic memories upon which to draw during those "special times" when I need to make myself feel better. :jackoff: ;-) I also want to thank all the men and women of the CERB community for being so accepting of a newbie. I hope to be able to return to Ottawa soon but until then, I greatly appreciate the interaction I've enjoyed since becoming a CERB member just a few short weeks ago. :bigclap: OBG

I like RG because he is a defender of those that would otherwise might be marginalized. His thought provoking input and level headed insight creates an environment where discussions can move along in a way that ideas are valued. And he is a true gentleman. xoxo

I like Meg, a absolute sweetheart, who brings positive posts and issues of concern to the CERB community. She is definitely a cornerstone of the CERB community RG

I like meaghan because she is beautiful, intelligent and thought provoking!

All Meaghan did was quantify the results of the posts on this thread, she didn't conduct a scientific study on negotiating nor claim to conduct a scientific study on negotiating RG

yes but leave it up to a lady to set her lower price if she WANTS to (eg. longer dates, or her end of the month special etc.) but dont ASK for a lower rate. I'm not sure why we're still debating this?....I'm out as well

@Roamingguy : you have missed my point entirely. Ladies do not normally have a set rate for encounters of the type I am talking about. They themselves ask that they be contacted for information. No lady will give you a "naked" figure outright. She will justify why she is demanding a certain donation. The instant she does this, the two of you are engaged in a negotiation - and you can (a) accept or (b) refuse, thank her for responding to your request and bid each other bye bye. Presumably, you told her the reason you are refusing go through with the encounter is that you find the donation too high. Now,this is where ladies will respond differently based on their own business models. Some will ignore you and "kick your ass to the curb" ( good for them).Others will ask how much you wish to give, opening a way to negotiating. Nothing wrong with this for her donation may have been objectively too high ( greed exists in all professions,) or she may seek optimization of financial returns. What is an optimum donation for Lady A may not be for Lady B. Bear in mind the key word - optimum. Optimum simply means the" most favorable conditions or level for GROWTH, or SUCCESS" and so I am not talking of ladies being taken advantage of. In business, it is all about optimization of financial returns and this often entails PRUDENT negotiations with various entities where appropriate. Escorting is no different.

Must be a really good song she's listening to!

Come meet our new hostesses today Raven 10-10 a real pinup beauty Amanda Page 11-6 exotic appeal And don't forget about our pros 10-4 Holly 11-7 Justine 4-10 Courtney Kiki RSVP to our luau Friday July 26 for non members this is your chance to meet all the beauty in person! Ottawas only private members hostess lounge 613-523-6199

Well irrespective of whether you agree or disagree about prostitution being legal, in the United States where he was, it is illegal and criminal. We expect people from other countries, especially politicians when they come to Canada to respect our laws, it isn't unreasonable for the United States to expect citizens, especially politicians from other countries, including Canada to respect their laws. Sorry, no sympathy. What this guy should have done is have an encounter with a lady from CERB in Canada where it is legal to do so Not to mention it is pretty common knowledge that prostitution is for the most part illegal in the United States. Whether you agree with the police's methods or not, my guess their tactics are within the law And do you really want a politician representing you and Canada (and Alberta) who is dumb enough to get caught trying to illegally have sex with an escort My morning rambling RG

First my quote in entirety "And on a side note, to all those advocates of negotiation. Would you as a client be as strong a proponent of negotiation if the ladies also negotiated too? For example a lady charging a certain rate for one hour, but when you contact her, she tries to negotiate by charging her hourly rate but only wants to see you for 45 minutes, or she has her rate but if you aren't an attractive man then she will negotiate a higher rate or so on and so forth. Negotiation is a two way street, and for those guys who think it's fair to negotiate a lady's rate down, it's then just as fair by the same token for the lady to negotiate her rate up to those negotiators" I for one second am not advocating negotiation. I was making a point just that if a man truly advocates negotiation then those same men should be supportive of ladies also negotiating. But I'll bet you they don't support ladies negotiating, because as much as they wrap it up as accepted business practice, in reality they are just cheap trying to nickel and dime a lady when she is offering herself cliché as it sounds, body mind and soul. What seems lost on these negotiators is this lifestyle is a business unlike any other, so comparisons can't be drawn. To even attempt to devalue a lady, and yes, your not devaluing her business, or her labour, you devalue her by negotiating I personally find very offensive. Especially since a lady who would be receptive to negotiation is likely a lady in financial need and will accept a lower rate because she needs the money. Just a gut feeling but negotiators succeed when a lady is likely at a financially desperate time, it isn't negotiating, it's preying on the weak. It's more a case of men bullying women for sex than an accepted business practice Seeing ladies, you are right, is a treat, an escape, and I appreciate the companionship they have provided. And that companionship, that escape has a intangible value far exceeding the donation they ask for. And I am happy to pay them the donation they ask for, plus a tip and gift RG

There is some information in this thread and a lot of rhetoric. I am in a competitive business where every person handles things differently and some people who are results oriented will pay a higher fee for what they believe are superior results. However other people are shopping for the cheapest rate, i want to maximize profits so it's important to be able negotiate with all types of buyers, if my competitors are under cutting me i can't tell someone "Oh go to your boss and take a pay cut" because the going rate is a moving target. I would like to know how low my competitors are offering and be given the chance to compete, obviously if it does not make financial sense I walk away, but as a provider I want the last word I don't want my potential customers passing me by or walking away because they believe I am too expensive. Hamburgers at McDonald's are a commodity and a fixed price, I think an intimate encounter should be more thought out. Also i don't understand extra's, either you do something or you don't why should it change your hourly rate? YMMV makes sense to me, its a comfort level based on the circumstances. And why do people want to negotiate unsafe GFE??? BB anything is just wrong.

Barbs has a mix of the great, the good and the average. Some of the dancers are pushy, but they are pretty rare (you are going to find that at any club tho) Sucks about the parking, should have just parked on the street as it is free at night. Although you may need to drive around to find something close by. I usually park behind the building across the street.

Unfortunately it isn't truly a two way street. If the SP negotiated rates upwards the client could choose to avoid the transaction without financial repercussions, while the SP would be out one client. I suspect but can't prove that it is this unequal relationship which prompt certain clients to negotiate. Personally, visiting a SP is a treat. As a treat I ensure I set aside enough funds to engage in it in an enjoyable manner for both parties. Should this become a 'need' then it will become important enough to allocate sufficient funds for it. Either way there is no need to negotiate.

I like kissing, cuddling, chatting, massaging, oral, all positions. Just happy to spend time with beautiful naked women :) Had my first duo, and prostate massage. All great :) Willing to try new experiences.

For me it depends a lot on the mood I'm in. Sometimes I just want it sweet and passionate. Sometime I just need to be held, or other time I may just want the greatest orgasm ever. I also like to try new things. Not really into fetishes much but I do enjoy learning about.

How awful. Heartbreaking to hear news like this. My heart goes out to those who knew and loved her. Ladies everywhere, stay safe.

I think this is a key differentiator between an $80 BP experience vs. what you might get with some of the higher end courtesans on this site. A 'cheap' experience might mean she just lies there and lets you do stuff to her. The kind of experience most of us enjoy is so much more. Personality, chemistry, laughter, cuddling, interesting conversation. We're paying these ladies for so much more than sex and I think it takes a certain special type of person to be able to connect in a genuine way with so many different clients. Edit: This is not meant as any sort of judgement or criticism of "$80 BP girls" but rather a generalized statement that one should expect to get what they pay for. You may very well get a great experience for less money but in general, the world doesn't work that way.

Heh...I could see some great conversations here. "Okay...you're pretty fat so that's gonna cost an extra $20. Balls not shaved? Another $20. And what's up with that mole? That kinda grosses me out so I'm gonna need another $20 for that too." All kidding aside, I think that's pretty much the same thing as negotiating a price with a lady. You're telling her that you don't think she's worth what she's asking and there's no way to not take that personally because what she's offering is herself. Pure and simple.

Just a word of advice for the above two newbie posters. It is considered bad manners to post a general will anyone PM me? If you have a specific question for a specific member then the general etiquette is to send a PM asking the question. Feel free to ask me and I'll feel free to send you back a sarcastic response. Do your homework, read the forums and all will become apparent without the need to ask stupid questions.

What makes you think they don't look at this site? I know for a fact they do as I have spoken with police in the past in regards to the site. In fact a very nice lady police investigator contacted us not too long ago asking for assistance in a case. Now, your new so I suspect you think prostitution is illegal right? We watch a lot of american TV and prostitution in Canada (unlike MOST of the USA) is very much legal here. In canada streetwalking (public solicitation), brothels (common bawdy houses) and pimping/procuring is illegal. The actual exchange for money for sex in private is very much legal and since a website is not considered a PUBLIC PLACE discussing and advertising such activities in classified ads and online is NOT illegal. We do not allow discussions of illegal nature here. Included on this list is - streetwalkers - FS massage spa's - public brothels - sex in public (including "Car dates") - underage (18 is the legal age) - drugs - pimping and so on... Hope that helps

After a hot shower, exfoliating, cleansing getting smooth all over. Preparing my space for "his" or even "your" arrival. Dolling self up, those last finishing touches of blush and lipstick. Taking the sexy number I have chosen to melt you with and devour you. One stocking on, reaching for the other with sexy music playing to get me in that sex kitten mood I much prefer to be in.... The telephone rings, I answer with a prrrr. I am ready and looking forward to a hell of a sexy day with a gentleman I hope is polite, fun and also a great time for me. "are you avail. right now? addy? "rates?" they are in my ads hun....... long pause (sexy vibe suddenly threatened ) by the chance that he may......oh please don't..... "how about 50 less than your rate?" other girls have agreed to X amount and even Y amount. But I will see you if you will agree to their rates!" My legs start to cross as he begins to bid with my body and services. Suddenly all that sexy preparation and bad girl sexy, devour you vibe I spent the morning slowly, carefully preparing myself for you. That warm, sexy soft and wet feeling is suddenly threatened to become the very place a negotiation always proves time and time again to take me. "Fuck it." Nothing dries me up faster than suggesting less than my rate I have offered myself intimately to you, (a mysterious stranger) now douchbag...... I suddenly feel like throwing some clothes on and watching soaps. Better yet Screw this..... I'm going shopping! (it's due to days and conversations as stated above that I have aquired a questionable amount of battery operated "devices") AKA.... sorry not available today. Please guys, nothing kills a sexy vibe faster than nickle and dimming over 20 dollars that I will need to replace those sexy stockings you love so much.

Not too long ago I got an idiot who asked me for half-price special. I told him that he might as well keep his money as he need it way much more than I do. That is how I see negotiators. If any negotiators on this board are offended by my comment: GOOD! I'm not interested to do business with you. Pay the rates or die starving.

I like Midnight-massage because she always post congrats for xxx posts to members:) I found it thoughtful

@megforfun: You wrote: ...."only those who participate truly have a voice in said poll and therefor we can never truly know how the majority feels" You do have a point. We seldom know the real truth about any affair through polling. We can only approximate it and this is why statisticians use highly rigorous methods - the more rigorous the method, the closer the truth is approximated.

Just any fyi - as you are new, there are already a lot of threads about MA providers in Winnipeg. Start there. Once you have made a presence by posting, you will get a warmer reception for getting specific information. Look at the recommendations of providers in your area. Start with them. Open questions of "who should I see", without a background of who you are will generally get a chilly non-specific response. There seem to be a lot of new hobbyists who come in, ask a whole bunch of questions and don't contribute anything in return There is always a possibility that Law Enforcement is asking questions so they can target those that are providing, so until you have some posting history (and asking who provides does not count), they are looking for contributions. Good luck

I've found that SP's that you see on a regular basis are more inclined to agree to an early morning rendezvous.

I'm a short skirt wearer all summer long as well... and indoors all year round :)

Spot on! After all, more than a mouthful is a waste. :body1: :)

Have enjoyed the sessions with Jane as she does a great massage,plus she has a very nice body/face..I am OK with no HE as it her choice whether to do that or not.Do believe she knows Rose does HE..