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My first thought is if it was something you did/didn't do, she would not have spoken to you twice more or looked up setting up an appointment and if she did, that is not the professional way to "back away". Good reviews or no, this is very unprofessional behavior, all three times. Is she having issues? No clue but I would expect if someone is advertising a lot that having clients is important so one wouldn't behave this way. If you behaved this way towards a lady here, you would NOT have a second opportunity to to it. I understand the intrigue and interest and only you can decide if she's worth pursuing on the off chance that one day things may click and you can meet. Or you may end up with futile efforts that end in failure as the other three have. I have no idea where her reviews are but you also have to ask, are they real. I am sure that even with your particular tastes and interests that there is "someone" out there who will not give you this run around or treat you so callously and unprofessionally. If you can seriously look at yourself and say "I behaved as I normally do and did nothing wrong" then you are not the one with the issue however you are the one with the decision to make. I'm sorry you are dealing with this as well as questioning yourself from someone else's behavior. My advice would be to do yourself a favor and move on. I'm sure someone else will value you.

I'm sorry this happened to you but the only one that can answer why is her. No gentleman should have to chase a provider, either we can see you or we can't. With that many failed attempts, and none of them appearing to be your fault its absolutely time to move on. We all can have things happen in our lives that can take precedence but still when offering a service those to whom we offer it and book with have to remain a priority and at the very last deserve an explanation if something does arise.

Sorry folks but for the most part deposits will not solve your issue. There used to be a very active Ottawa based Poly group on this board. For a bunch of reasons it is not as active on this board, but still very active. The people involved just use other means to stay in touch. I think one of the reasons it is not on this board as much, is it seemed to attract a lot of tire-kickers and lookie-lous who were really not interested in the activity. They were just curious or had voyeuristic tendencies. Also some of the SP's and to a lesser extent hobbiests, experienced a backlash from some clients when it got out that they were participating. I think that may be part of what some of the SP's who try to organize these events are experiencing There is usually some difficulty finding a time for some of these events that suits everyone. That is one of the most frequent problems. Most hobbiests don't book an hour for a gang bang in their Outlook calendar, or can't tell the SO what they are doing. So the larger the number of participants, the harder it is to get schedules to work and mesh. The most successful ones in the Poly group generally had the logistics handled by a hobbiest. An SP would agree with a hobbiest on the type of event, the ground rules, number of participants etc. The hobbiest would then be the one who organized the client logistics. Recruiting them, telling them the ground rules, donations etc. Often they also secured the venue. That seemed to work the best. Of course the other key is that many folks are uncomfortable in this group setting with strangers. The key factor of that Poly group, was that we ran Poly socials. In someways the forerunner of the CERB socials, but much smaller, and much more casual. Interested SP's would attend, and hobbiests as well, who were usually screened by the other hobbiests to make sure we didn't invite trouble. We would share a few drinks, a few laughs, make connections, and generally from that event, hobbiests would approach an SP to set something up. (Sometimes that very night, but not always) Although sometimes it would lead to one on one encounters, generally everyone there, were there for the same interest, and group events usually happened. And not to hijack the thread I will respond to RG's comment on what he thinks it would be like. In fact that group of folks is actually pretty intimate, although the events are a bit of a walk on the wild side. Most of the folks involved also see each other for GFE sessions. The poly social aspect also meant we got to learn a lot about different folks in the hobby, in a respectful and friendly environment. There was probably more intimacy and camaraderie then I have experienced anywhere else in the hobby.

For me I'm not a guy with atypical tastes, more a vanilla type of guy. But if there is a lady I would like to meet, and she requests a deposit, I'd be comfortable doing so. If I don't feel I could trust her to pay a deposit in advance, then likely my spidey sense is going off already and I'm wondering why I would want to see her to begin with. (BTW this came with some experience, I have had some bad encounters in my early years of this lifestyle) Now, I like paying not just the deposit, but for the whole encounter in advance via email money transfer. Saves me carrying a big wad of money around to an encounter and saves the lady from carrying that big wad of money after the encounter A quick rambling RG

I cannot stand it when people say things like, "He's such an idiot...he probably works at such and such fast food place who sells Burgers." Now I don't work at that particular Fast Food Place, (instead I chose to be an SP) and I never have, but you can bet your rear end that if I were in a tight spot and I had a family to support that I wouldn't look down my nose at a job like that. People in service jobs don't get enough credit, and it's like some people feel the need to make others with those kinds of job feel shame and that isn't fair. A job is a job, and if that person shows up every day and performs at that job, then that deserves respect. Working at a fast food restaurant or being a waitress or cashier or even a SP as I am - may not be as glamorous as being a doctor or a lawyer, but a doctor's money is no better than the money of a blue collar worker. There may be more of it in a doctor's pocket, but it's the value of each dollar is still the same. It irks me when I am in the checkout line at a store, standing behind someone who feels they can treat the cashier like garbage just because they can. I am on of those people who will say something, because I can't be fired for telling off the Moran and I am sure the poor girl behind the register appreciates it since she is unable to say anything in her defense at the risk of becoming unemployed. Yesterday, while waiting in line, I watched as the cashier greeted a man with a smile and he didn't even look at her or say anything, just literally tossed his items on the counter in front of her. She rung him up, he paid and grabbed his items and snatched another plastic bag from the rack as if he was irritated-if had liked something double bagged all he had to do was ask-and when the girl said, "Thanks, have a good evening." he just turned and walked off. I said, "You're welcome!" real loud and obnoxiously and he turned around and glared at me as I smiled all bright. He didn't say anything...I guess his evil stare was supposed to frighten me or something...hardly, I could have so taken him

I agree that anytime really is sufficient, but I do find something special about playing together in the daytime hours; late morning, lunchtime or afternoon. I feel that there is something especially erotic about being locked up together in a private room, taking some time out of the hectic day to share an intimate moment, pleasing each other and enjoying ourselves... While the rest of the world is busy at work, being stressed, driving around in traffic, etc. And we are here in my cozy bed, just the two of us, cumming and cuddling ;)

These days humanity is like bacteria cultured in a petri dish of cash and it's unsurprising that greed and narcissism rule the roost. The Era of Empathy is long over. The Ipods of the world are tuned to such fine examples as Drake, who brags of sitting on his 25 mill. And then there are the older generation, those of us who were foolish enough to believe Gordon Gecko's credo that "Greed is Good". Now they live their lives hustling the less learned of their hard-earned money in their 'repsected' professions, ostensibly much higher up the socio-economic ladder than loansharks and swindlers. Secluded away in their gated communities of over-priced oriented strand board, cultured stone McMansions, grumbling of being out-Jonesed by the jerk-next-door and his brand new Audi, they feel compelled to display their higher caste in petty displays of pretentiousness such as cashier abuse. I've shared my life with trailer park boys and girls, and I've shared my life with monied McMansioners; I have generally fond memories of the former and bitter memories of the latter. What is lost on the McMansioners is that their communities, with their near-identical muchly mortgaged palaces cramped together on tiny postage stamp lots, are themselves simply trailer parks, albeit a little better looking. There are those those who wake up later in life and realize that this obsession with material wealth and social status is all just a an idiot's game, but once you're tied into that life, it's hard to turn the ship around. You have a spouse and kids who are addicted to the highlife, thousands of dollars in payments a month to sustain that highlife, a professional fraternity which demands you toe their line, a circle of vultures you call friends, etc. They don't call it a rat race for nothing; if you become a top rat you're still a rat. By the time many of these people realize the futility of their lifestyle, it's too late. As their cells decay, they look back on what seemed like a full life and realize it was empty and hollow, and perhaps they will finally repent for ruining so many of our days. Life is a game and money is just one of the many ways to keep score. You either rule money or money rules you. Greed is not good, empathy is. When you realize just how insignificant your life is, how insignificant humanity is, how insignificant the Earth is, how insignificant our Sun is, etc., life becomes easier. Perhaps even the Universe is insignificant, as their may be an infinite number of them, or an infinite number of things infinitely more immense. What do we really know? Nothing. Maybe life really is all about grabbing as much of everything as you can at the expense of others, but something makes me think not. In the end, once the atoms of our lives lose their inclination to gravitate together, we own nothing but our souls. Well, there's my rant. Whether it's an asshole treating a cashier like shit, or TEPCO and Monsanto ruining life on Earth, and all the nasty humans in between, I am not terribly impressed with our species these days. Maybe a good BJ will fix that! :D

I don't have an issue with a guest wanting MSOG but it's a rare man that can even attempt it when I'm done with him after a single SOG. Like Emily, my guests come to me for an experience and I would rather play hours together building the tension. My guests derive as much pleasure from the journey as they do the destination. Delayed gratification is indeed the ultimate pleasure in my opinion and I specifically seek out those men who share my passion and inclinations. That said, a provider who posts an hourly fee then evicts a guest as soon he shoots is indeed asking for an issue. The "paid for time not services" comes from the US where escorts are required to cloak their business in a veil to protect themselves from LE. We are not required to do so here and providers have a choice of offering either an a la carte menu or an all inclusive buffet and everything in between. It is up to the guest to explore what a provider is offering to ensure it meets his expectations for the visit and a provider would be wise to be upfront about her chosen business model if she wants return clients. I believe there is the perfect client for every provider and vice versa, we just need to be willing to communicate clearly in order to find each other... cat

Just saying once again,as you and fosgate should of read previous comments about Mia. a) Her account has been dormant since 2012 spring. In other words she is inactive. b) Her web site is down because she has either retired for a while, or all together. c) Read the "New to this area" about posting on recommendations especially this one, which has been inactive for quite sometime. d) Now if Mia is back...which a lot of us doubt because she would announced here in the Ottawa section for her availability. e) Opening this rec by asking questions, only puts this recommendation on the front page of rec's which is just a little unfair to other ladies. f) There is a section in Ottawa- F/S Discussions thread, you can simply ask any questions there. g) I really wish that the rec section is used properly for those,look,write and add to reco's not to simply ask questions about ladies, when all you need to do is use the "search" button, or the "members" list then do your homework. Peace out.

Do you prefer to find someone to stay warm with during the cold months of winter, or do you more enjoy feeling the warm sun on your skin? Is there something you desire when you wake up even more than coffee? Or is afternoon delight or a bedtime snack (so to speak) more your thing? Are you a weekend warrior or would you rather make a manic Monday? Basically, I'm wondering if anyone finds they are more amorous at a particular time of day, of the week, or even in a particular season. I suspect like many of us, I find simply being awake is sufficient...and even that's sometimes optional! ;) That said, I do find I've got an added boost once spring has arrived after a long, gray winter. Also, when I first wake up my body seems extra anxious and ready to go (hmm, can pussy be considered a part of a complete nutritional breakfast? :)) Anyone else?

I wish people were noticed, appreciated, awarded privileges, given respect, etc, for their character not their position or job title. But that will never happen as most of us are to impressed by titles, ie: doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. Realistically if you were on a dating site and had to choose between a doctor, lawyer, engineer, dentist, etc or a clerk, waitperson, cashier, etc, who would you choose? I think judging people by their titles has been ingrained in most people, sadly, and the first impression anyone usually has of a professional title holder is that they are a better caliber of person, its similar to how prettier people get more attention and better treatment in most situations. Its been my experience that titles mean nothing, as there are assholes in every profession. A persons education or number of degrees means little as well. I've met so many with top degrees that were idiotic, immature, stupid, thoughtless wastes of spaces, but yet their degrees and job titles would leave some to believe they were better than's.

Im going to put another vote into the anytime of day column. That being said something about having a late night of relaxation, socializing and then going to the bedroom and having a long midnight session of play always gives me goosebumps. Its especially nice when you can sleep in the next day. If not you wake up super tired and beat, thinking "What did I do last night? Why am I so tired?" Then you look at the other end of the bed and remember :)

splitz - You're just calling it like you see it. Don't feel like you have to apologize for, or sugar coat, your experiences on this site. No point in trying to put lipstick and high heels on a pig. I for one won't get offended. Keep it up (the posts that is...) Good post dude. Let us know how things go.:biggrin:

I'd like to re affirm my intention is not create ill will or negativity in this space. I believe that no one should feel like they have to see anyone and I harbor no ill will. It's just advice I am seeking. And I'd like to thank you all for the good and friendly advice I have received thus far...

Here's my advice based on what you told us. Don't get hung up on her. Remember there are many good providers out there. She may very well just have got a vibe, or double booked or who knows what. Move on and see another companion. Good Luck RG

I know some of you CERB sweeties follow me on Twitter, so you may have seen this already. Just in case you missed it, here's my recent blog entry titled 'Mom, I'm a Call Girl!' sexydreamlife.blogspot.com/2013/08/mom-im-call-girl.html Thanks everybody for your love and support!

I've crushed on Jewel Staite ever since the first time I saw Firefly Gawd, that smile!

I am pleased to offer lots of atypical situations and fetishes. I have found that the more atypical the request, the higher the chance of a no show. The no shows are costly and discouraging. GBs are atypical and hence lead to a high rate of no shows. The solution is to charge deposits. Would anyone like to start a thread about deposits?

Further to Emily's post.... I hate a scripted encounter no matter the time frame! Lets just have fun and whatever happens within the allotted time frame is all good!

I give everyone I meet the same equal level of respect, be it a judge or clerk or anyone in between.

My favourite CD to listen to with the windows rolled up, singing along at the top of my lungs, is Aerosmiths Greatest Hits. Ba-ee-bay bay you're my aaaaaaaaaaaaangel You?

Hello everyone, I was hoping for some advice, especially from the Ladies, but all comments welcome. I'm a man of very specific tastes and a couple of months ago a cerb profile caught my attention. And as we hobbiests all do, I viewed the gallery. Well... I was...well wow...lets just say I was very attracted to this person. And even more importantly, her profile was well written and gave me the sense that she would be very mature, professional and friendly company. Before I get into my failed attempts to meet with this lovely lady I would like to first say. I have no ill will toward this person. She seems sweet and I wish her the very best. There will, out of respect be no names in this post.... I only wish for advice. I would also like, for those of you who I have not met in person, to know a bit about me. -I am a very successful and legitimate businessman. -I believe in being kind and respectful to all good people regardless of race, sex, age or sexual orientation. -I believe in self reflection and choose to live on the path of spiritual and physical self improvement rather than self justification. -When I meet with a service provider, I do it on the premise of mutual respect as I have respect for the profession and the true professionals that choose it and more importantly I have respect for my fellow wo/man in general. -I take pride in arriving to an appointment on time, impeccably clean and fresh. -I respect limitations/rules and discretion, I don't haggle over set rates and don't ask for things that aren't on the menu. -I have seen a number of cerb providers and all have been great easy going experiences. And as I have had many repeat bookings with no rejection I have to assume that it was a good experience for both parties. I also have a long standing relationship with and am on the mailing list of a number of premier Montreal and Toronto agencies that advise me of their Halifax touring dates. -Not sure how much this matters but it may to some providers................I'm tall, muscular and physically fit. OK so here we go: 1st attempt to book: So... I contacted her through cerb a couple months ago and she replied. We talked, made some plans for the next morning and it was all very nice. So I moved some appointments around to fit in our time we had booked together. But when I called the next day she did not answer. No big deal, probably couldn't get to her phone. So I emailed her private email that was displayed on her web site to reschedule, waited a day and nothing, so I sent her a message through cerb, and tried calling a couple more times but to no avail. So I let it go and moved on. Second attempt to book: Month later, I came across a cerb post she made notifying the cerb public of her availability and I thought..."Well who knows what happened last time, what the hell, I'll give it another shot". I called, she answered. We started trying to figure out possible meeting times but it was a bit loud in my office that day and she has a sweet soft voice so I was having a little trouble hearing her. So I explained that to her and said "ok, why don't I email you and we'll set it up there"? And she said "ok hun, no problem. I emailed, waited a day no answer. So I called..no answer than with another day gone by I messaged her through cerb and again i got no answer. So at this point I'm thinking.. "ok, I must have said something or did something to spook her. I'm not sure but, I've seen her reviews and they are all fantastic, so it must be something I did. Maybe she's super cautious and thinks I'm a cop or something. Ok, well I guess I'll just let it go. So a couple months later I'm perusing through the ads in, lets just say in a publication I'm not allowed to say the name of here) and long and behold...look who it is. So I'm like, "I'm not sure what I did, but I obviously did something so I'm gonna just move on" But over the course of the next few weeks she is posting every other day. And than another cerb post advertising her availability. Last attempt to book: So after a couple weeks I said, "Fuck It" She's smokin hot, advertising like crazy...maybe I was just being paranoid". (I tend to over think things sometimes). So I take a breath, make the call and, get an answer. "Hi, how are you" I say, "I was wondering about your availability for today" and she says I'm available. She give me the HH rate and Hr rate and I ask her if she can meet me at the ?!?! motel at 12. And she says ok. Than I say in a very friendly way" so... ok, I just wanna make sure we are good because I'm gonna book it" and she said "yep" So I said, "wait for my call to make sure there is a room available. I'll call you right back" she said "ok" So now I'm like. "alright this is awesome, I'm so excited to finally spend some time with this so very beautiful person." So I call to book at the motel and there is no availability. (i'm driving because I'm trying to pull this whole thing off relatively quickly because i'm short on time). So I pull into another motel near by and ask if there is availability. "Yes," the attendant says, I can give you a room now if you'd like" So i was about to pay and I was like... well. I'm gonna contact her once more to let her know of the change and make sure she is still coming. So I texted her the name of the hotel and she said "wheres that hun" I told her and then.... no response. So after 5 minutes of awkwardly hanging out in the lobby, I text again. A while later I call.. , So over the course of the next half hour or so...I sat in the lobby occasionally trying to contact her via text and phone. I texted at one point something like "its ok if you can't make it hun, but if you could just let me know either way".... and nothing. So I text... Sorry hun, "I have to go now. Not sure how I blew this but I am sorry for what ever it was".. and I left. Now this girl has some great reviews. I really don't think that this is normal behavior for her. So it's gotta be something I said, the way I said it or.. I don't know? So my question is.. how do you convince someone your on the level?

I read somewhere that there used to be CERB socials. I'm not sure how they would work but I know what I would like to see happen. I would like to see a social / party / meet somewhere like a QUIET bar, perhaps on several occasions to accomodate night and day people. I would like an occasion(s) to meet SPs, NOT to have sex on site, NOT even to arrange anything, but just to see if there is chemistry and interest in pursuing getting to know some of them, and to let them know if I am interested in them or vice versa. If everyone is from CERB there is no need to go into great details about who everyone is, or what they want or provide. However, I would like to be able to associate a CERB name with the actual person I meet. It would be more like an ice-breaker occasion. I understand why everyone is so careful but I want to know if there is CHEMISTRY or at least some attraction before I get to know someone more intimately. I would like to make some friends who are also SPs. This is especially true for SPs who DON'T travel from city to city. I would like to meet SPs who I can call up and come over to see, just like I would any friend. Of course I am only interested in Ottawa, but maybe people from other areas might like my ideas as well.

Well just my opinion, and I am not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination. If the letter says full refund three weeks prior to the event, and he bails out of an event he must have contacted you to attend, 9 days prior to the event (less than three weeks), he isn't IMHO entitled to a full refund. He cancelled on you, you didn't cancel on him. And you made financial commitments based on his contacting you to attend. Considering the costs needed to put on such an event, not to mention credit card fees, refunding half the fees seem more than fair to me I think his threat to sue you is somewhat of an empty threat, more designed to scare you. Because if he sued he would have to pay for a lawyer and time in court which in itself would likely be more costly than any fees he paid you. Also courts are a public place, where his wife (assuming he is married) kids (assuming he has any) other family, friends, co-workers and so on would know he partakes in this lifestyle. I think he would just as likely want to keep his participation in this lifestyle discrete. My two cents worth, if it's worth that RG

After reading the reco./reviews here and on the other site, I decided to pay Suji a visit. My first text was promptly answered, then a few more texts and a couple of phone calls later, the meeting was set up. The phone girl was very business-like, friendly and easy to talk to. After the session with Suji, I thanked her for her recommendation of Suji and we had a few friendly and humourous texts exchanged which contributed to the total pleasant experience. AP is lucky to have someone so pleasant as a front person. Thank you, Candice ( forgive me if I have your name wrong). Suji is just as the OP described - a darling little spinner, very cheerful, and adorably sweet. When I presented her with my gift, she was so genuinely happy after opening and finding what it was. Her English was limited but she managed to utter - " I like! ", " I am happy!" ...and with her huggings and dfk's that followed - you know she really meant it! I didn't find her bouncing around though, just because she led me from shower to bed and back by holding my hands lovingly. She provided me with a very GF-like experience and fantastic service. When she said something and I said I didn't know what she was saying, she pretended to be angry and hit me with her fist gently. In bed, she seemed to enjoy how I was pleasing her and said "I like" a few more times (lol), accompanied by lots of sweet moans. She has a tight and toned body and she put it to good use and with enthusiasm while on top of me. After the main event, she emphasized that she did not need lube because she was so wet - I took this as an unpretentious compliment. lol. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with Suji - she is truly a fun, sweet, and pretty spinner. I still have a smile on my face when I think of her. I have no hesitation to go back to see her again.

I agree with Meagan. Try PM'ing those that have posted a reco and ask them for some insight. In my experience I've only had one SP who didn't show up for our confirmed appointment. When she was a half hour late I emailed her to ask her if she was still coming. I didn't get an answer right away but when I woke up the next day she had sent me a response explaining why she couldn't make it. So we rescheduled and all was great. I wouldn't get too hung up though as there a many other fine ladies on CERB that are either local or travel to our fine city of Halifax. Best of luck in everything!!

For me its just timing. I've attended a few over the years and always had a great time. I've rarely seen your posts about GB's until after they had occurred. One suggestion could be to have it the same time every month, example, first Saturday of each month, so interested people would know about it and plan for it. Maybe one in the day and one at night as some are only available at night and others prefer during the day. Feel free to let me know about your next one.

Give up on this one. Not your fault.

Some people need to build themselves up by putting others down. Or they think somehow they are better than other people. And treating a person with disrespect because of the job he or she has is an easy way for such a person to build him/herself up What is important is who the person is on the inside. All a job is, is how a person earns a income, their livelihood. It isn't who they are. And who a person is determines if he or she is treated with respect by me, not the job they hold. A rambling RG

I must be unique in that darkness makes me horny. I get SO excited when DST ends and it gets dark earlier. Summer nights are definitely wonderful too especially if you can get outside. Don't get me wrong, mornings/afternoons on cool crisp sheets in the summer are awesome as is sex anytime...I just find my natural rhythms more nocturnal than anything. Winter is definitely a great time to get the heat turned up!

A classic remix... "Slap you're troubles away with the slap chop..."

I just had the most wonderful time with Layah. She's funny, and good at what she does. I'll definitely be back.

I have no idea whether this is true or not, but I'd be more than willing to assist with any research that may be going on in this area...

So, there's a couple of related questions that come up occasionally. If you can't say anything negative on CERB, how do you know who to avoid? And if a SP has no recommendations, or only a few, or nothing recent, what does that mean? And does it mean she's no good? One thing to get out the way immediately: yes, the fact that you can't come out and say someone's no good (unless they're worth a post in the "scams and warnings" section, which is rare) is a limitation. However, the ethos of this board is that we accept that limitation in return for the generally more pleasant atmosphere that results, and consider the exchange worthwhile. There are other boards for those who wish to read the negative stuff, and there are plenty of folks who use them in tandem with this one. But, it must be said, trying to work out who to see - or whether or not to see someone you're considering - is kinda tricky. The point of this post is not to try and provide a solution, because there will be as many solutions as there are readers; the idea is simply to throw some thoughts out there, and hopefully to mention one or two things that the reader may not have considered. Bear in mind that there will also be one or two things (or more) that I haven't considered, so hopefully others will fill in the blanks... and also chip in if they disagree with what I've said. It is undoubtedly true that some ladies have MUCH larger reco threads than others. However, there are a great many reasons for this, and surprisingly few of them have anything to do with how good a time you'll have if you go and see the lady in question. First up: you have to actually LOOK at a reco thread to evaluate it. Some consist only of recos, but others have a lot of cruft. I'm talking about posts along the lines of, "Thanks for the reco!" "How do I contact her?" "Her website's at ..." "Is she still in the business". Officially, these should be pruned out; in practice, that tends not to happen. And that means you, dear reader, have to go and see for yourself how much of a reco thread is genuine recommendations and how much is extraneous fluff. Post-count alone doesn't tell you everything. Second: a great deal depends on how many clients a lady sees. Someone who sees several clients a day will probably have more recos than someone who sees a few clients per week. Someone who focuses on longer appointments will probably see fewer clients than someone who specializes in shorter ones. Third: people leave and re-join this business all the time. A lady who's been inactive for a while will have a blank period when she can't possibly have acquired recos. Fourth: traveling SPs may well have one reco thread in each city they visit, and those threads will necessarily look short compared to those for ladies who stay in one place. Fifth: SPs who are new to the industry tend to pick up reviews more quickly than those who have been around for a while. Sixth, and related to the above: most of us guys will write a reco once, when we first see someone and like her. We don't write another reco for the second visit, or the third. Maybe we'll write another one after several visits, but I think that's quite rare. This means that SPs who are acquiring new clients all the time will garner far more recos than those who rely on happy clients coming back for repeat visits. I suspect that some of the best SPs are almost invisible on the board, both because their clients won't write a reco for the fifty-third visit, and because they have so many repeats that they don't need to actually advertize for new clients. Seventh: a very few ladies are on the "Do Not Review" list, and there are others who prefer not to have reviews or recos written about them. Others ask us to limit what's written ("No gory details, please" is not uncommon) and this may discourage potential reviewers. Eighth: spinners tend to get more recos than BBWs. And yes, I know there's many other body types... but you see what I'm getting at, no? I don't actually know why this is, but I suspect some guys fear schoolyard-level judgement if they own up to liking bigger ladies. Ninth: younger SPs tend to get more recos than older ones. I suspect the reasons may be related to the previous point. Tenth: SPs seem to generally get more recos than MAs, and dancers hardly get any at all. I have no clue why this is. Eleventh: this is rare, but some reco threads have been deleted - ISTR this was something technical related to deleting posts from long-retired members. I can think of one SP who I've written a reco for but you'll never find it, because her old reco thread is gone. You'll have to make do with her new, shorter one. Twelfth: some ladies ask for recommendations during or after (or even before!) a meeting. Different guys may react to this in different ways; I don't actually know what net effect this has on the lady's reco thread. Okay, that's a dozen things, which is enough for now. Doubtless I've forgotten one or two (I'll probably think of another as soon as I post this). In the meantime... I hope that was at least somewhat helpful to those of you trying to navigate the maze of tantalizing options we have available, and I hope that it's given you something to consider when you come across a lady who tickles your fancy but seems not to have too many recommendations compared to some others.

Wow, I wonder why I've not noticed Alexandra before, she's been around for awhile. Got a chance to see her and I must say, what everyone has said so far is right on the money. She even tried to get me to bring Vitto into the mix today, but I'm only mortal, I don't think I could handle both of them at the same time. :whipping:

I will echo that a deposit should be mandatory.

I had the same problem whenever I tried to organize gangbangs. I think the key is to book more guys than you normally would, knowing that a bunch won't show up.

hosting a GB event is easier said than done.Not everyone is comfortable with a group setting which means one would have to target the "lifestyle community " which based on experience they would seldom pay for such an event. The 2nd point I would like to stress is that the "no show" which is very common and anyone who has hosted one such event would know that 100 persons say they will attend and on the day for the event one or 2 shows up.Which means one would have collect the fees way before the event and have a minimum of 6 to hold such an event.So to make a long story short hosting such an event by an SP is stress..

Fuck off and mind your own damn business... lol When I had a turtleneck, the glans was WAY more sensitive. Now that I wear a crewneck, the sensitivity had decreased somewhat, but not to the point of it feeling like the rest of little Satai. I cannot speak for those who have been circumcised since birth, but I find that I have more staying power than before. Of course, that could be age creeping up on me...

Thanks to Emily for her additional insight into my post. I value her perspective. I'm never too good to be told and I think that Emily has indeed given me some food for thought. I have pondered on her points and have come to a realization after a wonderful trip down memory lane (not that I needed Emily to twist my arm to take that trip). Most of my first encounters with companions were indeed amazing but in my case all of my "all time best" visits with companions were actually repeat visits. As pointed out YMMV always does play part in every encounter but common sense is not a common as we would hope. I guess seeing multiple reco's from the same client could convey the notion that, "god she must be great if that guy kept going back to see her so often". So given my new enlightened perspective I'll have to update some of my original reco's with a sneek peak behind how great it can become when you build that connection with a lady and visit with her numerous times. Emily, if I get labeled a shill I'm coming looking for you and not for the typical sensual reasons :)

Great thread, Phaedrus :) I wanted to address nlwoodchuck's post. I partially do agree with it, but I also wanted to add a different view. I think that it would actually benefit the lady to have a mixture of recommendations from both first time clients, and repeat clients. I do agree that it's beneficial for the reader to have an idea what it would be like to visit the lady for the first time, and what generally to expect. But, I also think that it would be good to have a sense of what it is like to be with the lady, after several visits too. Of course, anyone with common sense will know that everyone's experiences will vary (same as first time visits), but I think this kind of thing encourages repeat visits. Some lads get into the hobby thinking of the wonderful variety of women there is, and how awesome it is going to be to sleep with as many ladies as possible. Variety is indeed the spice of life, and I agree with this mantra myself, too. However, with this view only, it may be possible to neglect to consider how great the sessions can become with someone after you get to know each other. The comfort that comes with familiarity, learning what each other really likes, and letting your guards down. This comfort can lead to a wonderful intimacy, that simply often is not felt on first time visits. I love to meet new people, but I have many regular clients who I truly look forward to seeing. I have a sense of comfort in having met them before, knowing what to expect, and knowing how best to please them ;)

Completely agree. young hottie who provides pse service. will see her several times before she goes! Additional Comments: Update: saw her again and wow she has officially surpassed hiroko as my all time favorite asian sp. this girl aims to please and i got everything i wanted with ethusiasm. Looks wise she has the perfect body imo. she is slim with nice legs and a flat tummy. also has a very nice set of naturals! i would say she is less than 25 years old. She is a bit submissive in nature, so you have to take the lead. i personally prefer this over the asian girls who have a set routine since it feels a lot more personalized. Awesome young girl with a bangin body and stellar service. my favorite asian sp in ottawa so far. that is saying a lot since hiroko at moonbay was also very exceptional.

Additional Comments: Here is how I like seeing lingerie.

Have any of you tried Google? lol Perhaps even www.tineye.com? I did a quick search on tineye... The latest ad for the Metro's 24/7 agency advertising "Nicole" didn't come back with any hits BUT the second to latest ad for "Kaylee" did. 3 to be exact. The pictures belong to a lady from Montreal named Megane (she's had her profile and pics up for 48 weeks on NR). I am positive if you look around some more, you will find the answers you are looking for ;)

New here as well. I have read all 9 pages but I think I'll read them all again, just for kicks. OD, Is that maple bacon in that sammich?

This is a tame one in comparison -

TODAY 10 to 11 ....Scroll Down For Poem Fellow hobbyists If this is your first visit be sure to check out.. RECO'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...?ltr=R&t=82591 PIC'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6979 I am a M/A with an INCREDIBLE drive.. A nautarlist at heart <3 ME in the buff = YOU leaving happy I am petite but my presence and personality are larger than life. I have a soft approch and a HARD finish. My techniques are magical And I love to entertain. Lucky you ! My Schedule: Thursday 3:30 to 11pm Friday 10 am to 11 pm Sunday 10 am to 9 pm Providing sessions full of sensuality with no strings attached Exclusively @ Angels ** I do not take credit for this poem, but i have changed some of the wording** Enjoy oh if you could read my mind you may be shocked at what you would find no way you could imagine the thoughts in my head you think you know due to things you have read those thoughts and words would seem very tame if you knew how I enjoyed playing in the game the things I would do you could not hope to dream what you see is what you get and I can make you come clean think about that when you're lonely and blue imagine the things that to you I would do you couldn't handle me if I read you the instructions but say hello to the queen of seduction

An Umbrealla !!:-P Rain, rain, went away. Sun came out with pipe of clay. blew a bubble whole-world-wide, stuck a rainbow on one side. Fellow hobbyists If this is your first visit be sure to check out.. RECO'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...?ltr=R&t=82591 PIC'S http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6979 I am a M/A with an INCREDIBLE drive.. A nautarlist at heart <3 ME in the buff = YOU leaving happy I am petite but my presence and personality are larger than life. I have a soft approch and a HARD finish. My techniques are magical And I love to entertain. Lucky you ! My Schedule: Fridays 10 am to 11 pm Sundays 10 am to 9 pm Providing sessions full of sensuality with no strings attached Exclusively @ Angels

I like her to be engaged and interested.....the rest will take care of itself.. Peace MG

Mod I understand that you saw verification photos but withpassions story is all to common with Nichole, in person she appears much older and nothing like the photos. If she's telling you no one has left her before she is not telling the truth. I have heard from more than one disapointed client, not just from Ottawa, from other cities as well like Kingston and out west. Can all these guys be wrong ? My advice to her is to be honest with herself about who she is and what she has to offer, there's someone for everyone and if she's more upfront about herself,she will appeal to clients looking for exactly that rather than promoting one thing and offering another. I'm all for second chances as well but it's not like she hasn't been made aware of the fact that the use of fake pics was not cool, yet she continued to do so over and over again NEVER in any ads explaining that the photos were for "demonstration" purposes she only came up with that when finally confronted by you. I'm so passionate about this type of deception not only for the customer who works hard for their money, but for the providers who don't play games, who use real photos and go to great time and expense to use real photos. When someone like Nichole advertises in a respected venue like EC it makes the customer question the validity and authenticity of the EC site and question every other SP's REAL photos. No surprise I voted no. Of course as I've said over and over it's your sandbox and I respect whatever choice you've made and will not raise the matter with her here in this forum. I will respect the popular consensus of this group and hope that she has truly reformed and can appreciate the damage she's done.