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I'm dropping into the middle of an ongoing conversation here, but I wanted to pick up on this point in particular. Sex is an enormously powerful psychological thing, with such deep and unpredictable subconscious roots that maybe it's not surprising that people can have... issues about it. Among the many things sex can be are a) a demonstration of one's power, by which I mean "the means to obtain a thing that's desired," and b) a way to achieve a unique kind of personal validation. Problem is, it also comes with the built-in possibility of the opposite should sex goes wrong: a sense of powerlessness, failure, and rejection, each as overwhelming as one's sexual desire is in the first place. Insecure people will use sex to achieve those positive rewards, and can react very badly indeed if things look like they might go the other way. And it can be very hard (sometimes impossible) to tell ahead of time who might have a hidden agenda and trigger. This is one of the things that I imagine would worry me the most about being an SP; that you might not know until it's too late, and the two of you are physically close and compromised, before you discover there's something nasty going on. And no matter how well equipped you are to handle this once it arises, it's at very minimum going to be really unpleasant to deal with. For that reason, it makes perfect sense to me that an SP's spidey-senses would be scanning the communication and other behaviour leading up to an encounter for clues about a client, even for seemingly trivial things that could just be mistakes, but... might not. And yes, any kind of petty social power play -- perfunctory or disdainful messages, getting all cat-and-mouse about following rules to test boundaries -- would be a definite flag. Of course that analysis is easier to do when speaking to someone, and subject to the usual limitations when interpreting text alone. Tough job. I know I couldn't do it.

Just came back from an amazing time with Passion Vitto and Alexxandria-As for the details, well, gentlemen you simply need to arrange some time with them and find out for yourself. My only regret was not booking 2 hours with these ladies who are truly smoking hot with hard bodies.... Can't wait to do this again!!! K

I think some points are getting mixed up here... First impressions: When I receive emails with "how much", "u avail" and nothing else (not even an ? at the end lol), right off the bat that person is showing me that we are not compatible in many ways (I can go into details via PM if you'd like). From experience I can assure you that my best encounters and the patrons I enjoy the most have always been the ones who took the time to get to know me a little before our first encounter and my website was part of that process. They also weren't afraid of using more than 2 words (and punctuation) when they introduced themselves. Just to give you a simple example from your side; if a lady chooses to advertise in the "hey boyz wanna cum over im horney i wanna fuck" way will she attract the same gentlemen as if she were to advertise her message using a more subtle way (including proper grammar lol)? I can tell you the answer is a definite no. Now do a reverse with what I said... Besides, you have to remember that we receive many emails a day/week and some emails are just fantastic so it makes the selection process a lot easier ;) Reading my website for information I do believe that when a gentleman has taken the initiative to inform himself, at least read the basics on my site, that it shows some kind of interest. I also do not believe that because he doesn't take the time to read the basic info that he will automatically not follow instructions/respect boundaries during our date... I think it only shows a little laziness on his part ;) With that said, when a gentleman contacts me to find out about my donation and has taken the time to say "Hi Gabby, I would like to spend some time with you in the near future, I was thinking maybe next Tuesday. What would your donation be for a 3 hour encounter in Montreal", I will gladly answer him directly and not send him back to my website. You see the difference in approach from the "hey u avail"? The only emails I will not answer are the one liners, the rude ones and disrespectful ones. That's pretty much standard with all the ladies ;) For a laugh, you can check out one of my old ads addressing the subject ;) Following directions before and during an encounter It will be easier for me to give you an example or two; when I say, "please do not call me and only text me to confirm your number" and the gentleman decides to go against my direct and clear instructions and he decides that he wants to call me instead (see my post on page 1), red flags go up because it shows me that already, there is a "power struggle" going on. Let's pretend I decide to meet with him anyway... If I say please enter by the front door only (it could be at my incall or it could be pun intended ;)) because the back door is not to be used, will he indeed follow my instructions/directions and respect my boundaries or will he attempt to use the back door anyway? Hard to tell. Do I want to chance it? No. Indeed, some will out of curiosity to see if the paint is still wet lol but in this lifestyle, I do not want to take the risk of putting up that sign and having a potential client touch it anyway when he has already exhibited signs that he can't follow instructions. Blah, this turned out much longer than I wanted it to be.

Hi cerbie, In all fairness to Chloe, I too believe this to be genuine and your post as well. Why not get the ball rolling and start an official reco thread for Chloe, you have enough posts to start a thread. Just my thoughts and you seem to enjoy her and her companionship! You can start a new recommendation thread here, if you like and choose: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=162 Hugs, Lexy

Flirt and squirt?

I'm going to have to disagree with this one, especially if the relationship involves sex. I know that many hobbiests are at the other end of the spectrum, but I'm a firm believer that my lover(s) should know the extent of my involvement with others and the risks that may extend to them because of that, even though safer sex is practiced. You don't necessarily have to come out as an escort; many folks nowadays are engaging in poly or non-exclusive relationships, so it has become a little more mainstream than it was previously. One possibility is to tell potential partners that you are not ready for a monogamous/exclusive relationship at this point, and see how the relationship develops from there.

My last post on this thread as I think everything has been covered so far... "Some of us may not have University and our grammar skills may not be up to what the more educated men's style of writing is. I myself would fall into that category. You may find yourself more attracted to the man who is well educated and knows proper grammar to use. I see nothing wrong with that actually. " And from what I can tell, you did just fine without one :) (as many other people do); you didn't need a university degree to become the nice gentleman you are, a gentleman who also understands what respect and common courtesy is all about. Some things just can't be learned in school... "I am sure you can pick and choose your suitors as all the wonderful cerb ladies can do. Just keep in mind that we are not ALL well educated." I actually do not care if my patrons (or potential ones) have a university degree or not. I do not care if there are mistakes in the text and if the grammar is perfect or not. What I care about is being contacted in a friendly polite way and exchanging a few pleasant emails to set the tone before a first time get together. It doesn't take a university degree or a college or high school degree to say "Hi, how are you? I am interested in spending time with you. Could you provide me with more information in regards to xyz. Thank you." "I agree no one, no matter what their education should ever be rude or disrespectful" See, those one liners "u avail", "cim? greek?" "how much", etc. are just plain rude and to a point, are disrespectful for many ladies. I am certainly not the only one who feels that way. "There are men out there that wouldn't mind that approach at all and may actually be turned on by it. I am not saying I am one of them, then again on a particular day and feeling in a certain mood, one never knows. :wink:" Yes, some men will enjoy the more direct approach and the text like messaging lingo. Some won't at all mostly because of the lingo used. Same for SPs. Some will put up with the "u avail now" and a large majority won't. As you already figured out, I am part of the majority ;) *Just so there is no misinterpretation, I find the direct approach can sometimes be realllly sexy even though I prefer to be a little bite more vague with my descriptions. To each their own. "I've been asked to text. The problem with that is my phone isn't set up for text. Luckily for me I was still able to chat with the lady from my computer to explain the situation or she may have thought there was a power struggle going on. Where it was just a simple case that I wasn't able to text." The texting example was just an example to make a point and I agree and understand that texting is not for everyone; when the gentleman takes the time to explain his situation, I am positive that all ladies will find other ways to accommodate a particular situation or request. Not being able to do something is not the same as not wanting to do something and blatantly disregarding instructions and do as you wish. Again, I don't mean you, HalifaxMan, it's just a general comment. "I had some very good workers who couldn't follow written instruction very well, but just tell them verbally what they had to do, and you could count on it getting done." If a gentleman is not comfortable with emails and texting, all he has to do is inform the lady and I am positive she will be happy to schedule a phone call to discuss everything that needs to be. Communication is key to many things in life... Use it! Gabby xox

Good evening All! First a heartfelt THANK YOU to all of you who have shouted out in support, offered up prayers and good wishes over the last week and a half. I really really appreciate it! Just confirmed today that I am going to be evaluated at the University of Michigan, who has a cancer research facility beside "The Big House" their 110,000 seat football stadium. Good thing I am already a fan of the Wolverines! They are going to look at why the cancer cells are attacking the muscle structure and then discuss the situation with the folks at both Princess Margaret in Toronto and QCH here to determine next steps. So leaving for UofM on Friday! Back next Tuesday. Thanx again all. Tom TheLiquor

As some of you now know the cancer doc's are putting me through another bunch of tests. It appears that the cancer did spread to the muscles surrounding the arm pit (isn't that just stinky) and probably to the pectoral muscle. More alarming is that they think there is a strong possibility that the lymph nodes are now involved, not cool. So more tests, probes, needles, probably chemo, probably surgery is in my future. I want to thank all the kind folks that have sent me heartfelt messages of encouragement, it is really appreciated. I will try and continue to play whenever I don't feel like a bag of hammers (thank heaven that my tongue is still in working order!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!). Once the prodding and poking starts, my days as a two handed masseuse will be limited (again, thank heaven my tongue is still in working order!!!!!!). Will continue to share this journey until the majority tell me to shut up. If I don't make it to the Ottawa Social, have a drink for me!!! Cheers and Thanx tom theliquor

Open minded can mean many different things in this business. I would recommend getting in contact with the lady and getting some idea as to what may be on the menu. Remember though, just because it is on the menu does not mean it will be offered to you. It is always your millage may vary.

I'm creating a special citation for beautiful bums, limiting pics here to cerb-approved photos to avoid hassles. I've been running a 'favorite pics on cerb' thread, but this one is more specialized. My first two citations go to Belle and Jazy. Belle: And Jazy:

By chance I met Salina... stopped into Paradise Spa and asked to see who was working. This beauty caught my eye and I'm glad she did. From the moment she entered the room she exuded sexuality. I couldn't take my eyes off this blonde bombshell. She teased with her words and her fingers. Her massage was fantastic, hitting all the right spots and reading my reactions. She played... "you don't want me to massage here do you" but I did! This added so much more to the experience. Then she asked me to turn over. The tease ended and the real fun began. Lots of attention where it was needed. So hot! So good! Sad it had to end... until next time... Check out her smoking hot new pics too!

A girl by the name of Alexis on BP stole my ad also using stolen pics ... She literally copied and pasted it exactly what I wrote ...Not impressed at all, what can I do do she can change it ?

Also, since your name is Kiev1976, I thought I would recommend myself and SelenaMA at ALO's downtown location, Acqua studio. We're both Russian MAs, one blonde, one brunette, early 20s :)

Remember not to reveal info about a ladies REAL LIFE. You all expect privacy and discretion and I am sure the ladies also deserve the same. some of the comments here may be a little too much info.

I'm picking up the last novel in the Dexter series today entitled "Dexter's Final Cut". I'll probably start reading it after my current book. I'm hoping it'll be a better finale than the show. I have a feeling it will be. The novels have managed to retain that sense of fun and dark humour so I think it'll be a good read. Posted via Mobile Device

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Yes rescue's are the best. I finally got over Jake's passing and have a new little furbaby. She is, however, a stubborn little thing. And yes she is a rescue. Unfurtunately (hehe) she is also a doggie-in-training. She still doesn't get the fact that she can't be involved in playdates. Jake would just sit quietly in the other room and not make a sound. Marley needs to learn this. :icon_rolleyes:

Some ASSHOLE at my incall just threw glass bottles off of their balcony. Me and the dogs were just heading home and pretty much walked into it, the glass was hitting the ground as I opened the door. My dogs almost walked right onto giant shards of glass. I stood there a while hoping to see which balcony it came from but nothing. I am shaking with rage right now, and the back area of the building, where many people walk their dogs, is currently covered in broken glass. Also my good friends dog has pyometra. Took her in right away, she's on antibiotics, and if she makes it through the night she'll be getting spayed and *hopefully* she makes it through. She means a lot to me, I've spent many nights blissfully spooning her in the past and hope hope hope I get to do so again in the future. Hoping for good news in the morning.

Two businesses catering to hobbyists in the same building. Kewl!

Congrats touch!... keep posting the pics and others.

MMMM my bummm yayyy thanks for fosting CATO!!!!!!!!:D

Congratulations to a great contributor and most excellent gentleman. I am sure you have many admirers!!

2000 posts, 4000 boobies. ;.) Thanks for every single one of them.

From a complete stranger: best of luck and kick some cancer butt! Additional Comments: From a complete stranger: best of luck and kick some cancer butt!

HalifaxMan, I am quoting you but my comments are not directed at you or anyone in particular. My comments are made in a general sense... And how does that usually end? lol ;) Going back to the instructions they should've read in the first place, swearing and saying "why in the hell didn't I look at these in the first place" or finally stopping to ask for directions when they are long, long lost? I think I already know the answer to the above lol Joking aside, I think it's not so bad when a project takes 2-3 days to assemble instead of an hour or two with instructions but to take that same cavalier attitude and applying it to this "hobby" where discretion is one of the most important elements in this "hobby is just wrong and shows you don't care :( I don't think following a few simple instructions to insure discretion for both parties should be tossed aside just because, well, after all, it's the guy thing to do. Definitely! Not all men are the same and should not be painted with the same brush. That would be a huge mistake. I can tell you that, personally, there is a huge percentage of emails I do not answer because of what you mentioned. The "How much", "what ur rate", "u avail now" and so on is a huge turn off and I can only imagine what a rendez-vous would be like with a client like this... Not very inspiring lol I think Emily, WrinkledinTime and mrgreen said it best at the beginning of the thread:

Sending all positive energy your way. I will be thinking about you this weekend.

Camille has allowed me to post a picture of her here, if you can't see her albums. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=516412&postcount=1952

Xo thanks for the post CATO looking forward to getting to know you better

From one mature provider to another, I will say it isn't easy. I've tried and have decided that the headaches and heartaches simply aren't worth the investment at this time in my life. The work just brings too many issues, even with those who know and understand it when combined with a strong will that we old broads seem to embody. What I would like to ask is if your relationship has ended, is there a need to seek another at this time? If you are anything like me, you have lived to raise your children and take care of others. I'm assuming here but I have never met a mature provider that wasn't instinctively nurturing, even if they haven't had children and most of us have sacrificed everything for those we love. Now your family is grown or almost, perhaps it's time to have an authentic relationship with yourself! I've decided to simply live each day and enjoy those who are in my life during those moments. I do have friends in my personal life but it's on my terms and my time. I've adopted a new approach. Rather than looking at things from a duality perspective ie. positive/negative contributions, I only consider if a relationship brings balance to my mental, spiritual, physical being. If a relationship doesn't contribute to the harmony I craft in my life then I bow out. I love but don't commit in a traditional way. I'm spending time with me, doing the things I love and want to do. If someone I enjoy wants to tag along, great! If not, great! If I want someone to sleep over, they can stay. If I want to wake up alone, they go home. Anything that disrupts the balance I'm creating is immediately eliminated. Embrace being a woman of mystery! Like Kathryn said, you do need to disclose your profession before intense intimacies take place but you would be amazed at how much fun you can have without going all the way. I get all the hard action I need with work but I love the foreplay most. I will spend months getting to know someone and never go further than high school couch make out sessions that have been the described as the best sex they've ever had without sex! Until I know they are trustworthy, they don't need to have information that is sensitive. Protect you and yours foremost. Life is suppose to be fun, make dating an adventure and I have chosen to make these experiences fun and without commitment or drama. They are simply for me to enjoy, nsa. Perhaps spending some quality time with you, for you, by you is in order. The right man may fall from the sky into your lap when you least expect it but if he doesn't then you are still living a life worthy of you, that you will find fulfilling. My grandma always told me that she never regretted anything she did in her life, she just regretted the things she didn't do so that is my focus. I'm just doing the things that I enjoy on my terms and seeing where life takes me... cat

Please add your name or nod to this thread as a show of strength for THE LIQUOR and as a force against that sob cancer that keeps invading his life. May all this positive energy help kick it out of his life for good!

Last week my cat took to washing himself too much...like all the time Was away for the weekend got home today. He had chewed his fur out in clumps and scratch marks on his skin. Got an infestation of fleas. Poor cat was just crying from suffering from the fleas. So first order of business give him a medicated shampoo, and boy do cats love water. Then a antibiotic ointment for his wounds from scratching And then a thorough cleaning of my apartment followed by spraying an anti flea spray. And now waiting for the last of my laundry to dry...it was clean before but who knows But now my cat seems really content RG

Well I've jumped on the blog-wagon, just posted my first entry (warning, first one if a bit of a rant, lol! but better than ranting here) http://thetattooedcat.blogspot.ca/

This is a pretty subjective topic. If you "click" with a girl and get a BJ, I guarantee you it'll be awesome. The worst BJ I ever got, was the one I didn't.

Ouch! Although I can understand where this temptation comes from, how will you avoid being perceived any differently from the ones you would like to expose? Seems to me like it's a double edge sword. You always have the option of posting about your personal experience(s) on a review board. If your list of no-shows and cancellations and SPs who change the terms of the encounter is growing so much, perhaps revising your selection process could be beneficial to you in the long run? Additional Comments: I am curious... NL, I ask this with the utmost respect... How is what you stated above not considered gossip? Because it is between men only? How do you know that what is being shared is the honest truth and that those "facts" are 100% accurate and haven't been altered in the slightest to make one look good (SP or client) and that it is not some manipulative way at getting back at whoever it is that is being talked about? Do you trust all these people that provide you with so called information?

I would also be interested in this list. I would hope that contrary to the above poster, this list would contain legit MPs who have been confirmed to offer HE, and not just a listing of someone's one time jackpot. If this is being distributed, I would hope any feedback about someone not wanting to be public any more would be respected and they would be removed from the list. The whole idea is to make this hobby easier, and not increase the number of bad experiences. just mho.

To cut to the chase....no diet will ever be effective without exercise. You nee to burn more calories than you consume and the only way to do that is to be active. Base your calorie intake on your desired activity level instead of vice versa (that's where a lot of diets fail...they tell you to eat so much but forget how to tell you how to burn the calories) After that, it's all will power. Smart eating can let you consume more foods with less calories. By smart I mean healthy...cut DOWN on the usual culprits but don't deprive yourself. Smaller portions if eaten slowly can be just as satisfying. Never deprive yourself unless you have super willpower. The goal should be long term and life long not a quick loss of some lbs. don't forget, muscle weighs more than fat so keep on working out!

Charlie and I

Back to cerbland with Miss Jessica Lee. Thanks for letting me post this, Jessica. I'm glad you're back!!

So interesting how people think in different cities, I am known for being open minded but only once was I ever asked for BBFS. I do advertise as open minded and a fantasy granter. Almost all my requests that some would consider "out of the norm " are mostly role play that hurts no one and can really be a lot of fun. I am not sure if geography, big cities or many more providers per capita brings out the rudeness and Gaul, lol perhaps a study someday is in order.

I've been lucky I suppose as I never had to diet nor watch what I eat but all my sugar binges and over eating is starting to soften my curves so I think its time to cut back. I don't think I'll restrict myself from any food groups just cut back on the amounts. My appetite is huge so my over eating is more of a problem than what I eat, I think. I personally don't care for diets nor do I like being around people that follow them. Nothing more annoying than dining with someone who says no to most of a menu. I love food, eating and enjoying is sexy, I guess some of us just need to eat less perhaps:)

I don't like diets that eliminate entire food groups. I had good success with Weight Watchers many years ago, and have heard the same feedback from others. It teaches you how to eat and encourages choosing items from all types of food, usually I think now you have these little points cards, so you pick items until you get to your day's totals. so you can eat your favourites, but they might cost you a lot of points. eventually you get used to eating a healthy diet, in moderate amounts at regular intervals. The main thing is that there isn't any of that 'going back" to what you normally eat, because all along you are eating what you like to eat anyway. the easiest way to lose weight and maintain it is to just change one thing, and add one healthy thing. So if you drink 2 beers at the end of the day, cut back to one. If you eat fast food 5 times a week, cut back to 2 times a week or choose the healthier FF options. then you add one thing,, like in the time that you were drinking that extra beer, now you are going to walk around the block after you return home, and before you go inside. or you will start drinking 8 glasses of water a day. or take the stairs, or do crunches while watching tv, etc etc. WW also has prepared meals and treats available if you don't want to take the time to prepare stuff. :)

I just came back from seeing Emma and WOW, she is smoking Hot. Had I known what she looked like facially, I would have booked longer. I won't go into all the details but the question asked is typically bbbj and the answer is yes but ymmv. Amazing girl, sweet, smart, amazing body, gorgeous face. I will definitely repeat...hopefully tomorrow:) Thanks MGF, I'm lucky I was on the mailing list from a failed booking a year and a half ago...this definitely more than made up for missing out on Sandy at the time. Additional Comments: I saw her again since today is her last day. Sweet sensual kisses, great bbbj, MPOS, great skin, amazing body, Beautiful girl, well worth a visit. In a way I want to keep her for myself but I get she needs clients for her to comeback. In case my low post count screams out shill for the general population here, I do have a few reviews here and they are typically in line with the general consensus. I'm not a full time hobbyist thus my sparatic reviews but I do these to contribute since I rely on reviews myself when choosing an SP. Anyways, don't miss out on this one!

Was wondering if anyone as any info on this girl. She advertises on Bp under upscale beauty. Age 20. I have tryed tineye didn't get any hits. But sometimes I don't get hits even when some say they have. Kinda hit or miss. Anyways any info would b great.