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It's very easy to read the discussions and become disillusioned thinking that every guy on here is as great at the ones who post. But they're not. In fact, the two biggest creeps I've met, came from right here on cerb. I think this is something people need to keep in mind every time a similar conversation comes up on here (about pre-paying, references, anything to do with a lady's procedures). The guys who participate in the forums are probably not the ones we need to worry about. The procedures aren't necessarily for them (Even my own. I posted on another thread that I would ask someone to leave if they didn't put the payment down up front. I've met some gentlemen from cerb that I'm so comfortable with based on their post history/attitude on here I didn't even think of it, and wasn't at all worried about being ripped off. But that's the exception, not the rule - and it was MY choice to bend my rule, not his). The procedures are there for the big, sometimes dark, sometimes scary, part of this business that you guys just don't see on here. But that doesn't mean it's not there.

I also enjoy the GFE MA experience. I find it more sensual then F/S most of the time. The MA's are often gorgeous. There can be a lot more teasing involved. I often have a lot of sore muscles and this helps relieve the pain. Once you have seen some MA's regularly a trust and bond can happen where you can talk about anything. I also like to give the girls massages also, they seem to enjoy it. It is fun to slowly explore a woman's body and tease and please her also. With some woman there is actually more kissing then with a SP. These MA's know how to tease and prolong the pleasure till the decide when you are ready to be released. Plus I enjoy the before and after showers with the MA's, some times it's hard to leave the shower. I've had many great experiences with Massage sessions. Sometimes it's almost everything but f/s, but it's fun and sensual and the pleasure last's the full hour :) . For those men that have not tried a MA experience, you should try one with one of the highly recommended MA's here. She may changed your mind about getting massage. It can be highly addictive. How can you not enjoy a beautiful naked sexy woman, sliding up and down you with her oily body. Her soothing strokes and teasing hands. Passionate kissing of your lips and kissing of up and down your body. Oooh, This is getting me excited again, bring back recent memories. Going to have to get another Massage soon :)

Splitz, I apologize if my post was one of the ones you took offense to my friend. I assure you my intention was not mean spirited or malicious. I was having a bit if fun with the imagery of the "all boys tree house" while trying to keep things light spirited. I confess that I've been told on occasion that my sense of humor is an acquired taste ;-) . None the less, I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic, or even less than supportive. That being said, I still am not convinced that such a section is in the best interest of cerb. You have actually put fourth some good arguments, (which I was struggling for with any previous threads on the subject), but I still think that the potential for abuse out weighs any positive benefit it could bring. I still see it as a means for guys to say things about sps behind their back. I believe that at least on this site, one shouldn't say something about someone if they wouldn't want them to see it. Perhaps I'm an idealist. Either way, I'm sorry if I offended you. Mikey

I am unfortunately familiar with those underwhelming experiences where the most elaborate ads, with all the right words and seductive pictures, too often begin to lose their luster with the first reply (I am at a loss to understand how someone claiming to be a university educated companion can compose a message without spelling one word correctly). Too many ladies do not come close to living up to what they promise. There is of course the other end of the spectrum. I have met so very many wonderful ladies who genuinely love what they do - intelligent, gorgeous women who cherish the connections they make, love to explore and do MORE than they promise. It is those treasures that make navigating the minefield so rewarding. We are now entering Savannah Lane territory. I first saw Savannah's ad a several months ago. Her pictures were more captivating than most but I could not find any other information on her. There were no reviews at the time and no one I knew had heard of her. I waited and waited, then finally decided to send her an email anyway. Her reply was refreshing - concise but detailed, intelligent and thoughtful. There were no catch phrases or promotional banter but rather the kind of conversation you would only expect from someone with genuine interest. Not long after, I received a glowing recommendation from a friend. Savannah was now a must see. I saw Savannah in a wonderful hotel downtown. She was offering incalls that day but I had also booked a room there and she came to me. I have a special affinity for two things - dark nylons is one and jeans is the other, preferably faded, tight and torn. She arrived wearing jeans, not torn but sufficiently faded and they hugged her curves nicely. It was a wonderful start! We had already spoken quite a bit by email so there was an immediate familiarity. Conversation was fun and flowed easily into the intimacy that followed. Her pictures are accurate but do not tell the whole story. Savannah is very attractive with a face that draws your attention! She is tall and well proportioned, certainly not big but not skinny either, with breasts that are natural, not huge but very nice - nice to see, nice to feel, with nipples you love to wrap your lips around. And the view between Savannah's legs, when they are open and held back, especially when she is wet, which she will almost certainly be (I am trying my best to be tactful), is as perfect as I have ever seen! Savannah has a seething sexuality. Its' intensity takes you by surprise. When the passion starts you can see the world around her disappear and YOU are all there is. Smart, confident and poised she is nonetheless not at all shy about letting her most primal urges show. "Oh dear God! Oh Fuck!" and even more colourful phrases soon replace intelligent conversation. There is nothing timid about Savannah's PSE. There is nothing held back, nothing half hearted. This is the kind of full bore Porn Star treatment guys dream of. Do not make the mistake of thinking of this as a contest - you will NOT keep up! Her kisses are as passionate or as light as you prefer, or as the circumstance warrants. From energy draining reverse cowgirl to slow, sensual missionary, Savannah Lane is second to no one! I did not expect to find what I found in Savannah Lane. I have a hesitation for seeing local ladies - several less than stellar encounters over the years have made me leery. Savannah, however, easily keeps company with the best ladies who travel here, as well as those I have seen elsewhere. Her reputation is spreading and some of the most elite ladies who come here now seek her out. For those especially careful gentleman, there are ladies you likely already see who will recommend her. Definitely a must see!

CRYSTALFORYOU I met with this FANTASTIC Lady from Montreal. She is really a full meal deal. beautiful all natural 34 d, smooth tan skin, great eyes and a wicked little smile to die for. Cute French accent and is really warm and friendly. She enjoys a good white wine. Not a clock watcher, If you do not see her you are missing out on a treat that every one should indulge. Has a very toned body and a peach that is out of this world. I will repeat as often as she will visit Winnipeg. A real 10 across the boards. Royal Alexandra

I met this lovey girl the other day. Gp is mainly girls that left PK. Kathryn was a very nice change of pace, I'm no good at the description part, and the fact that this is my first reco, should give you and idea of just how great she was. Light hearted, positive, BBJ Daty Kissing all on the menu, all of the stuff you know about the agency she left, but with her spin, and it's a winning combination. I've met other girls at GP, and will be going back, very much so. one more thing, Kathryn loves to jump in a hot tub, if that's your thing.

Not as an SP. And if I decide to rent a hotel room, when checking in, I always make small conversation about it being a romantic stay, and my husband will be joining me after work. But, in the 90's I used to frequent a bar in Hull called Roxanne's. Total metal chick. If I couldn't find a drive I would bus it to the Westin and taxi it from there. That meant getting off at the Rideau Center and going through the lobby of the hotel. I was confronted on a few occasions and immediately would ask for the Manager and would eloquently rip off a new one to said bellhop in front of him about not judging a book by it's cover. After a while they never bothered me.

I love being an MA because it is more than just a sexual experience. .. because with my touch I can make people dream and fantasize about wonderful things... because by touching you create bounds and connection. .. Being an MA has allowed me to discover the sensual me... I have learn to know a gentleman and how to please them and make them sensations that cant be compared to anything else...

Stopped in to see Alexis, has an add on BP, last night. She doesn't post face pics, so when she opened the door I did a double take, this girl is a cutie! She has curves in all the right places and a friendly attitude. The only drawback was her incall is in an ugly part of town in a run down apartment. PM for details...

My mistake. Looks like I got the Kathryn's mixed up. Thank you for clarifying. Last thing I wish is for her to get a bunch of calls requesting out-of-town appointments.

My take on it ... A ladies private section is very valuable and provides safety among the ladies....cause they realllllly need it !!!! unfortunately.......and maybe even supports comradarie and soothes the atmosphere among the ladies working side by side in the industry ....I don't know...just surmising. Worst case a guy might not get his rocks off with a certain chosen provider or several maybe. Life goes on. A private section among the boys has the potential to destroy reputations and careers and livelyhoods of the ladies and in some cases their kids wellbeing. Even if moderated that sometimes will not and cannot prevent irreputable damage IMO. Life doesn't just go on and heartbreak and hard times can be involved..... Use the PM system and recco's fellas status quo is my opinion. That's all I got.

When a show is boring, you can't go wrong with buying the hot sauce IMO. Is it really, insanely hot?

For out calls to Kanata, I think any lady who advertises outcalls would visit you there. Just have a look at rates first- outcalls are usually offered with an included travel fee, (like mine, my outcall rates are for anywhere in Ottawa), but some girls require the cost of a taxi to-and-from your locstion, and cabbing to Kanata can be costly.

Hello Gentlemen, I'm Sasha, a young fit and playful MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so tell me what you like ;).. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, dark hair, golden tan, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Full erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery body slides reverse body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing music Fresh towels & linens A/C ATM Schedule: Sunday: 10am-9pm http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238 Join me for some hot steamy fun call: 613-820-8887 or 613-614-2117 -Sasha xxx

Nice place to be from :D Peace MG

Happy Birthday !! Have a fab day ...

Add says she is 19 years old and that is incorrect by 8 to 12 year (my best guess). Can not swear if the pics on the add are really her ,and one time in her life ,because they do not show her face . However the girl that came to my hotel was 30 to 40 lbs heavier than the body pics posted on BP. Girl was in very bad shape due to drug abuse. I am not talking about a bit of weed smoking I am referring to hard core drug abuse. When I opened the door of my hotel to let her in I got an additional visitor with her. She landed with a guy who was her bodyguard / pimp whatever. He said he was there to collect money and make sure everything went ok. We had an exchange of words, ect and out the door he went. I am not sure if they landed with another motive but being the person I am , i didn't give them any chance. I believe this is a case of bait and switch because of the pics and info advertised . It is also a dangerous situation when a third unexpected , unwanted person barrels in through the door. I guess I can take part of the blame as I should have done my homework on the 24/7 agency. Either way everyone needs to be warned about the practices that this agency conducts. STAY AWAY !!!!!!

Coles Notes version:it means NOTHING! A well respected independent is better than ANY Winnipeg agency. Don't waste your money on someone who does nothing but handle a phone while some lady is working hard to earn hers. Additional Comments: Meanwhile the mayor's incompetent pal walks away with a golden parachute worth a hundred times that (rumoured to be $445,000) despite costing the city tens of millions in screwups. No police investigation, no public outcry...but God forbid we should have an unlicensed escort running around.

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Happy Birthday MellyBelly Enjoy your special day RG

And I agree of course that the kissing analogy is not a good comparison. Your very explanation as to why it isn't a good comparison is one of the reasons I changed my view on the private section in the first place. So of course that comparison doesn't hold up. If I thought it did than I wouldn't have changed my mind. My reason for bringing up the comparison was to convey that Prior to my changing my mind about the private section my error in thinking was not inspired by malicious intentions but rather an unrealistic perception of how the private section would have run. I realize now that it wouldn't work like that.

Well I'm convinced, too many negatives for a private hobbyists section -unnecessary division -boys club mentality and may become disrespectful -may pose increases danger to the provider with regard to the exchange of a providers personal information without there knowledge. -And I'm sure there is more..feel free to add. However, I think that there is one thing that should be cleared up. Its the big white elephant in the room. As the most common comment made by people in this thread surrounds the following: "if you have something to say about someone and you can't say it too them then don't say it at all" I think the perception here is that if you for any reason would prefer not to say something to someone than what you have to say is negative. So I have to believe that this way of thinking must have left some with the impression that Splitz (me) wants to talk negatively about providers and is looking for a forum that allows me to do that behind a closed door. Just to be clear.. that is NOT SO. I believe that there are times when one may not want to speak on a topic in front of someone that involves that person but the reasoning for not including that person who it relates to is not malicious but more of a social norm. For example: (fake names ahead) Julie and Jake are on a 1st date and just as Jake is kissing Julie good night for the first time, Jacky(Julie's best friend) just happens to be walking up the road. Julie introduces Jake to Jacky and as this is happening Jacky is just dying to ask Julie a ton of questions like: what is he like, is he a good kisser, is he a good conversationalist and Julie's dying to tell Jacky all about it because that's what people do. So guess what happens when Jake leaves. The conversation begins. Now is Jacky betraying Jake? If Jacky wanted to know if Jake was a good kisser or a good conversationalist than shouldn't Jacky have been able to ask those questions in front of Jake, and if she didn't want to, is that because Jacky had bad intentions? I wouldn't say so. Some people would just find that a bit awkward. Now the dangers of having a private section for the hobbyist have been well stated and I have been convinced that its probably not a good idea so please know that my above example is in no way advocating for one. I just believe it would be understandable for someone to have misinterpreted my intentions as malicious and I sensed that some had interpreted them that way. Thanks everyone. This has been quite eye opening for me. It's great to have an environment where people can ask questions, debate, and learn without it getting petty and shallow like I see happening in many other online forums where knee jerk reactions and trading insults sadly dictate the flow. And having the privilege of being part of a forum that allows providers and hobbyist to share their perspectives with each other in an environment of mutual respect is so valuable. I think part of that value may be in that it helps highlight the importance of the legalization/normalization of this industry within society. Only with legalization can there be major leaps forward with regard safety and the prevention of exploitation. Peace....

For me it's along the lines of Wine, check Clothes, check I hope that he's a little tubby and has a hairy chest. Knock knock

Happy belated birthday pretty lady. :)

Happy Birthday

Kathryn Bardot is an independent SP and does not work with GP, and never has. I don't believe she is travelling to the valley this weekend, either. :)

"Dirty thirty" eh? Me likes the sound of that! ;) Hope you had a great birthday!

Actually Christopher Nolan didn't have anything to do with Man of Steel. I could be wrong but I think he was a producer in name only. Basically they cut him a check and he allowed them to slap his name onto the trailers and posters lol. It was Zack Snyder who directed it (300 and Watchmen). I have to disagree that the CGI was bad. The movie definitely had its faults but I don't think the visual effects were among them. Those were probably the best effects I've seen in any superhero movie to date. But alas, special effects alone don't make a good movie. I agree that the non stop fighting in the last hour got exhausting to watch (especially considering that the characters weren't even hurting each other....which made all that fighting and destruction completely pointless). And I never felt that any of the characters were fleshed out enough for me to really care....Superman himself barely had any lines in the movie. I cared more about Jenny Olsen trapped underneath the rubble than I did for Superman or any of his main supporting cast. I don't blame the cast for this movie's failings. They were all great. But the writing definitely needed improvement. And I dunno if it was the director's decision to turn the last 45 minutes of the movie into total destructo-porn....or if it was the studio's.....but that was a big mistake IMO. I like action and explosions as much as the next low brow schmo...but that was too over the top. Overall I would say the movie was....ok. I wouldn't go as far as to consider it "bad". It wasn't awful but it was nowhere near as good as it could or should have been. There is a lot of room for improvement and I really hope they up their game for the sequel.

Jenna is a very down to earth girl that will make you feel comfortable, treat her well and she will do the same. If you want to know her rate or any other info just PM her.

Perhaps it's because we are bashed everywhere! The problem is that if a provider doesn't want these kind of details "out in the open" then it shouldn't be anywhere for any reason. I don't care if you are getting pm requests, if your provider doesn't want that information disclosed you are betraying her trust by doing so even in a pm. If she doesn't want that information in her reco then she doesn't want it discussed and shouldn't be in pm or a private area. It's one thing to have information exchanged between hobbyists but please know that it's easy for someone to disguise themselves as a client and collect info on a provider then have it used against them in a child custody case etc. My concern isn't about the bashing, it's about the open availability of information that could cause irreparable harm in one's personal life. I am a prime example. My work was used against me in a custody case and I lost my daughters. Not because I was an unfit mother but because I was a sex worker and details clients discussed were read in open court in front of my daughters who were all minors at the time. There is one detailed review out there and by the time I knew it existed it was already framed on my parents dining room wall for my children to have to see every time they sat down to eat. It is why there is so little out there on me. Discussing services that are offered but not publicized is a no no anywhere. Bash me all you want but don't ever discuss what I do behind closed doors... cat

Definitely! Another Ottawa lady that is an all natural busty beauty is Vanessa Vale :)

Yes, it is a personal preference about how long a massage is long enough. Another personal preference thing is whether to get yourself a happy ending or a happy beginning. I've sometimes found getting the ending out of the way early, actually relaxes you more to enjoy the massage afterwards.

And that would be why you have the right to choose the provider that meets your needs and the providers have the right to refuse those that don't meet their requirements! :)

It comes down to a matter of trust. The more that a client attempts to "hide" from you the less trust you'll have in that client. As dave pointed out the general rule for most ladies is safety first and one aspect of that is the no blocked call rule. Plus on another note time-wasters and douchebags will often hide behind the blocked call to play games with the lady without being caught.

Providers "rudely" refusing to answer blocked calls? Probably the same ones that "rudely" refuse to see drunk clients. Really? Her life. Her rules. Are people actually getting "spammed" by ladies and agencies? Hmm... news to me. I guess I'm not understanding these threads that question provider's rules. Every person and business sets basic rules for contact. Part of life. Get past it. My two-bits worth.

I don't see why. Sure, this won't be everyone's idea of a great time, but provided both performers and spectators are on board with what's going to happen and what the rules are, I see no reason why anyone should be uncomfortable.

Just updating this. We now need a MALE and a FEMALE volunteer to be on council. If you previously submitted your name then your still on the choice list but each time we need a new council member I will ask for volunteers so that we can add to the list of member. MALE MEMBERS: Should be at least 500+ post count FEMALE MEMBERS: must be from the SP ONLY verified ladies Both should be free of infraction points within the last 12 months for stuff like fighting as that will play a factor usually but we welcome anyone onto the list who contributes and has the best interests of the site in mind. PM ME IF INTERESTED. THANKS.

So, I unfortunately did not arrange anything with Adriana,Alexis, or angel this weekend but I did go see Tessa who was offering a really great deal that I could not say no to... She is better than she looks in the pictures and very friendly.. She did CBj and let me try multiple positions, no rush and well worth it

It's the only thing I have to know who you are. Yes, it could be spoofed, but there are always risks. If I let someone call me from a blocked number, and give them my address, let them in here and they do something to me, I have NOTHING to contact the police with. Nothing to go on. To me, it's not different than being picked up by a stranger outside. So for my safety and security, I will never, ever book from the blocked number. I google the phone numbers, and cross-check the bad date section. Many spoofed numbers are out there on the internet, so i've caught many. I know a phone number isn't much, but it's something. What I tell guys who say they want to contact me from a blocked one is this: If you don't trust me with your phone number, i don't trust you with my address. It's that simple.

From Alexxxis album:

It's an expensive hobby. That's why I have a budget and can only meet a wonderful lady every 3 months or so. It's the only way to go. As far as experiences with Cerb ladies versus the local newspaper, ----------, and --------, there is a big difference. Especially in Timmins. You do get the odd exception. Keep in mind that as much as you'd like to see them all, you can't. You just have to pick and choose.

I would Love to meet and have a fun with SP comming to Sudbury..

Great topic MF and great additions bibbybob, I find that allot of ladies don't bother to even look at others scheduals before they tour. Some of us have dates posted on our calendars up to 4 weeks in advance so it is not like it is that hard to check prior to booking. In a business where we should all work together to benefit each other, it does not always work that way. Eventually, some of these ladies will learn to plan better and not just jump the gun on booking a trip. The good ladies will come back, even when it is quiet as a travelling lady can't always expect a busy trip everywhere all the time. Some cities can support a few touring ladies a month, as each lady bring something different to the table regarding experience, price,etc. There are more factors than just a lot of travelling ladies in a city in a month that can cause a ladies trip to be disappointing, but this is a business of living and learning and if you only look out for yourself you wont get very far ahead. After a lady has a few bad trips to a city that has interest in her, she will need to look back and find out why? And yes you can blame me for the influx of ladies, I have worked my ass of to get other ladies to enjoy in some of my favourite cities as I know that you gentlemen will enjoy their company as much as I do, if not more.