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Thanks to everyone for supporting my recent twitter campaign "Followers for Food" which ended yesterday. From Ocotber 4 to November 4 I pledged to donate $10 for every new follower to my twitter feed @cowboykenny. Followers to my twitter feed are alerted first when new posts go up and from time to time I share pearls of wisdom and chuckles through out the day. I'm happy to say that I have 26 new followers which amounts to a 260 dollar donation to the Ottawa Food Bank, the equivalent of 50 spaghetti dinners and 30 after school snacks or 8 cases of eggs. In fact because of the buying power the food bank has along with the support of corporate sponsors each dollar dollar donated has the equivalent of 5 dollars, so the $260 donation actually amounts to $ 1300 of nutritious food for Ottawa families , singles and seniors in need. This campaign could not have been any more timelier given this story that came out today but was lost amongst all the hub bub of political scandal; More than 800,000 Canadians still relying on food banks, study shows http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/More+than+Canadians+still+relying+food+banks+study+shows/9124788/story.html Thanks again for helping me help others.

We are trying a "Trial Run" to allow links and references to BP and CL cause we want to help keep people away from the bad apples and to increase popularity on cerb (across the country). So for a trial period the censors have been removed to link to www.craigslist.org and www.backpage.com Hopefully no one abuses this! We DO NOT want to see advertisers posting links to ads on BP or CL (Or any other directory other then EC & the approved directories). This would end in EC revoking permission to allow these links.

Emails and finishing planning the rest of the year :)

In relation to the terms I think they are pretty muxh self explanatory.. GFE : Girlfriend Experience.. you can say a more intimate encounter PSE Porno Star Experience.. a wild experience... things taken out of a porno Asking for services offered is not rude... communication is the key.. but make sure that before you contact the lady in question you read and inform yourself.. most of the time services and restrictions are on their website (if they have one), their advertising and or profiles... also refer to their recommendations as they can also help you find out what to expect from an encounter...

I am laying back relaxing in a hot steamy bath with my feet up and legs spread apart mmmmmm feels great....what about you?

Good afternoon gentlemen, First I would like to greatly apologize to the CERB members for posting misleading photos on BP. My name is Nichole and I am a Quebecoise advertiser (Was on Escorts Canada but they removed my ad because I was using these photos on BP causing them to receive complaints). My description and pictures on Escorts Canada were always 100% real and truly me as I have verified with Escorts Canada. Some of the pictures on BP of costumes and fantasy pieces were not me and they have now all been ERASED. I WILL ONLY POST ACTUAL PHOTOS OF MYSELF ON ALL SITES GOING FORWARD. I will clearly state my services and restrictions so that there is no confusion. I will only be able to offer mild to moderate submissive services, no longer hardcore due to some traumatic injuries. I am apologizing and asking the members to give me another chance. I will work extremely hard to rebuild my reputation with this community. Thank you for this opportunity. Deepest apologies, Nichole :icon_cry:

Visited Selena last evening at her west end Kingston location. Pictures are real on BP. This was my second visit. We enjoyed each others company and had a great time. She is very skilled in oral arts. She enjoys being pleasured. I will repeat again and again.

I'm 'out' about being an escort in my personal life. When I meet new people, I test the waters before I tell them but I don't hesitate overly long. The issue I often face when meeting new people is something along the following. They say, "it's alright that you're an escort, but... your clients... aren't they kind of gross? Isn't it nasty to have to do things you don't want to do with people you aren't attracted to, or who are dirty?" I'm always really amazed that people say those sorts of things. I adore my clients, and I'm lucky to have had very positive experiences. They ask me lots of mean questions (i.e. about hygiene, weight, appearance, STIs, etc) as if this were a reason to stigmatize, or dislike, not my job as an escort, but rather the clients that seek my services... Ewwww seems to be their reaction. So I've done a few things to 'humanize' clients in the minds of the people I meet. I usually say, "Do you like your dad, brother, uncle, cousin?" "Well, of course", they say. "He's probably my most typical client", I respond. They are shocked. I say other things too, of course, but that's usually where I start... My question is for the clients on the board, if you could say anything to the people I talk to, what would you want to say about yourself? While I'm really good at defending my clients in these situations, I'm curious to see what other people would say if they could be open about their involvement on CERB.

Too slow on my part lol

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Further to what Vitto answered, there is a thread on what GFE-PSE means (but she has summed it up well) : http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10214 Can't add much more than what Vitto posted, at the moment. And welcome to CERB, by the way!

I am sitting back enjoying my coffee and reading Emily Rushton's new website Very well done site Emily. What a nice surprise to see. And if I may say Em, you hired a very beautiful model for your site Well done Emily RG

As with most things that people don't understand I think there is a tendency to stereotype... while things are changing slowly society has looked down on sex workers and the services they provide so I guess it is understandable that many would continue to think there is something wrong with clients. I think like most things there is as many reasons why men seek out the companionship of a service provider as there are men. For my part I am just a regular guy ... involved in my community... great job... wonderful family... my initial involvement I think came from purely the excitement of sex with someone new after 20 plus years if marriage but what I came to appreciate especially in the last year is the wonderful caring relationship that can develop with your service provider... it is not constrained by all the real life realities that inhabit us in our civilian lives... it can give you a level if intimacy that is amazing because both people are truly living in the moment they are sharing. Early in this thread someone mentioned the lying in bed holding a beautiful woman's hand and I think they were right it is about those moments and the nonjudgmental conversations as much as it is about the great sex. I think people need to understand that the clients in this industry are just regular people who come with their own reasons and needs... some want the great or different sex...some want the companionship... some want or need a distraction from things in their everyday life. Some are at a point in their life where they need a friend. Hey but what do i really know...lol...i am only one client who strongly feels that my involvement in this industry has been very positive for me. So i guess what I would tell you to tell them about clients is we are a bunch of really happy regular people... so if your dad or brother or husband seems really happy the 3rd Monday of each month....it might be them.

I would actually consider race issues an example of where great progress has been made. It is true there are still many problems, especially on a systemic level, but when you look at how much has changed in a mere generation or two there is reason to be hopeful rather than despairing. I'd agree with you it is harder to spot and root out racism when it isn't overt or public, but being forced underground as you put it is part of the process. While I have my doubts that racism, sexism, or many of the others "ism's" will ever be fully eliminated, it's nevertheless amazing the degree to which things have improved. It is certainly not hard to still find examples of homophobia, for example, but look at the progress made by in finding acceptance and equal rights despite sexual orientation in our society just in the last generation. And there are other examples of stigmas which have been all but eliminated. Being Irish in America used to make someone a second class citizen. Just two generations ago people of Gaelic heritage were forbidden to speak that language in school to the point that the language was almost lost. When my father was a child he could be hit in school for writing with his left hand! It is true that, for clients and companions, the stigma is of a different nature and there may never be full understanding or acceptance, and perhaps it only looks like progress is impossible because it is slow, yet over time who knows what will happen? And there are signs of improvement. Never has there been a time when there were so many service providers publicly advocating for themselves, attempting to educate people. Technology like the Internet has also helped. Just speaking for myself, being able to read websites and blogs of escorts, and forums like Cerb have done wonders to educate me on our community. Surely I'm not alone in that? I would even take it as a good sign that, for what I imagine is the first time, you can find examples in popular entertainment depicting escorting as a normal and positive aspect of a society (Kushiel's Dart novels; Firefly tv series). The process may be slow, it may ebb back and forth at times, it may never be complete...but in the long run? There's always hope.

Way to go!!! Congrats!!!

Congratulations - I'm looking forward to the next 1000!

Just like regular cleavage, Australian Cleavage (aka Underboob) is something that I can't resist looking at!

Normally, male jumping spiders in the genus Phidippus are the more colorful sex, but in the case of the Apache jumper, the female is the clear winner: A male Phidippus insignarius jumping spider performs an elaborate courtship display for a female. During this part of the routine, he raises his body, lifts his front legs, and shuffles from side to side: Orchid bees don't actually feed on orchids, but rather the males use their modified legs to scrape scents from the orchids onto their bodies. These fragrances attracts females: This may not be the image that comes to mind when you hear glowworm, but this bizarre creature is the form taken by an adult male glowworm. The feathery antennae are used to detect the pheromones of females: You can tell that this is a male luna moth by the large leathery antennae, which he uses to track the pheromones of females: The Halloween Pennant is a common and widespread damselfly with beautifully colored wings. Here, you can see the details of the wing veins:

Congrats Loneskater and keep em comin ! Cheers !

Wow- this thread is great! Lovely ladies, just lovely.

Retirement for me is when a guy that never smiles injects me with some crazy shit, puts makeup on my face so I will look 25 years younger, puts me in a pine box, lets people look at me in a church, then closes the lid forever, wheels me out, throws me in a hole and chucks some pretty flowers in and then shovels dirt on me. ;)

MoMandy! For the month of November when you book with me a donation will be made to the Movember campaign for the CMJ movember team:) So treat yourself and a good cause... Available today 11-7 Wednesday 10-10 Friday 11-7 call 613-523-6199 or pm to visit as my guest Dont miss our Movember party November 22nd, come out and meet me and show off your stache!

I mentioned Gene Kelly in another thread, made me remember this amazing VW ad featuring him: My other favourite ads are BABIES EVERYWHERE!!! And 'Johnny? Oh HEY MAN!'

I think everyone goes out sometimes. I'm not sure what let loose means but I don't think anyone prevents themselves from living because they are an SP or an MA. It's a rule that if you recognize an SP or MA while you're out and about that you don't approach them, the same goes for an SP or MA who recognizes a client out in public. We keep our distance, pretend we don't know each other, and perhaps send a PM or an e-mail to be like "Hey! I saw you!" in a not-so-creepy way ;) Alternatively, (and if more appropriate), you don't e-mail or PM at all... especially if there wasn't mutual recognition or you've never met the person privately.

P - Penis Passionately Penetrating Pussy

I really like what you posted here Cleo. I personally just can't and won't do short encounters like this , but, I don't think that's what these threads about short versus longer encounters end up about anyway (that is the direction this thread has taken); that is, personal preference and mere discussion about the ins and outs of such service offerings. They clearly take on a tone of debasement and abjection and we should all know by now who the stigma largely clings to. To be clear, this statement is not about reducing any one particular comment made by my fellow members to a sum total judgement, but rather, reflects an observation about the overall character such discussion has taken on....and, tends to take on... I was contacted recently by a man who wanted a half hour session with me. When I informed him it was a one hour minimum, he became irate and disrespectful and continued on trying to negotiate obtaining my services anyway...as though I was some sort of irritating pylon to get by to get by to reach his single-minded end-goal. When I told him it was clear to me we were not a good fit due to the hostility I was sensing, he proceeded to tell me I was essentially a 'fat cum dump anyway'. I was astonished. Some say I shouldn't be; that such qualifying, hateful remarks are all around and to be expected here and there if I'm going to remain in the industry. It doesn't matter if it was transparent and pathetic; after all, he'd been interested and turned on enough to contact me! It still hurt, and went to the core of my being. I agree with you, Nicolette (Vaughn), that it is truly upsetting when men seeking our services do not respect our boundaries.....who assert an automatic sense of entitlement to access our time and our bodies without respect for the business model we are going by and the parameters we have set. There is a word for what underpins this; misogyny. This hateful phone call and the length of session of offer, while seemingly a crux of the conflict, was not the problem. So, again, and this is not directed at anyone in particular (at all!), the tone of this kind of discussion so often ends up stigmatizing (mainly) Service Providers while doing little else... Like folks such as Cleo & Kathryn Bardot have highlighted: seek out the services you wish to access, and take the time to inform yourself in advance via ads and personal websites about what is on offer. And, be prepared to accept our answers! And, at the level of our participation on the forum, let's be mindful of how our words and ideas transform themselves from mere subject content and 'free' and 'open' discussion to qualifying value judgments about the relative value of our colleagues, and the customers they bring pleasure to. Service Providers have their reasons for doing things the way they do. It is a highly competitive industry out there. Socio-economic privilege and access to certain markets play a huge role here, as do the personal motivations and short and long term economic goals and needs of SPs in making such determinations about how to run their businesses. Service Providers need our thoughtful care, affirmation and concern. Let's start more threads about that! My two cents! :-) Peace, Anna Additional Comments: p.s. my reference to the helpful commentary offered by Kathryn Bardot on this kind of topic comes from a similarly themed thread entitled "How about 20 or 40 minutes option?"...just wanted to clarify :-)

Acqua studio would certainly be walking distance... you can look for the profile here also... If you need more info feel free to pm me .. I can help you with any questions you may have.

I have offered this service before and would definitely be interested in doing it again. Since I've worked as a male escort and done quite a bit of porn, I have no issues with someone watching. I can either see if my partner would be interested or with a women of your choosing, but definitely interested!

This can be a lot of fun. I have done it several times. Main thing here is you have to be cool with it. If you aren't, don't do it. Imagine her with someone else, and if it gets you all fired up, and not in a good way, then stay away. If the image is appealing to you, congrats, you are a open minded perv! Let the fun begin!!! You might want to ask your SO if she is wanting to try a DP. That is something that should be discussed beforehand.

Well Yay ! Sexy pants Kerri is a cumin :) You might not recognize me since we last met Kerri. I have lot 2 lbs and have 3 more grey hairs ..... or three less dark hairs I suppose might be more accurate. Look for me under the mistletoe all night kissin all the girls .... 35 of them I hope !! MKOL also definitely allowed ;) Hope my date isn't the jealous type ? hehe and my two wifey's too. Awww I better just behave I guess ...... Can't wait. Gonna be fun !!

In my experiences of hosting gang bangs, I can honestly say that this idea wouldn't be worth the efforts. It's hard enough finding people who are available at the same time, let alone trying to decipher a bunch of rules for a "game". Imho, this idea is best kept for social get togethers with friends, not so much SP/Hobbyists.

I have visited Aranda several times over the past few years and can confirm she offers a wonderful massage. Very clean and professional experience at a reasonable price. She has a wonderful sensual side to her despite her quiet nature.

Cute commercial! "1984 won't be like 1984", but 2012 is -- Orwell was right about most of his predictions, he just got the dates wrong: in 2012 televisions started to have cameras that watch you http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2117493/Samsungs-latest-TV-sets-built-cameras-spark-concerns.html and cable boxes that record what you watch when you watch it and report this to rogers, etc., have been around for a long time. Here's a couple commercial parodies that I hope you'll like:

Apple was cool once: Not it's just the bloated 'Le Chateau' of computing

Other motorcyclists who cut in and out of traffic and end up trying to squeeze beside me in the same lane. Go ahead or stay behind!

Excuse my language...lazy fuckers who leave their grocery cart in an empty parking space.

Lets keep the site positive and inviting to everyone. Please and thanks, And photographers who wish to announce they are photographers on cerb (advertising) they must have a paid account. I froze 4 photographer accounts today.

Tee hee! I think tutus are super cute! :) I have a white one and wear it for guests by request. I did a photo shoot in the spring and got a few good tutu pics :)

Lawyers are too busy screwing their clients to have time to cheat:) well most of them.

Best BJ in Metro for me was Katherine. Very porn like.

Democracy is rife with "what ifs". Who moderates who? Who is to be trusted to be impartial and unbiased? This is an online, virtual, anonymous community. I would not want to be in charge of finding anyone perfect enough to meet the requirements of monitoring this board, as there is not one participant that doesn't have biases and self interest at hand, while still pleasing the masses that seem to demand their perception of perfection instead of practical application. Given the pettiness, immaturity and nonsense I have seen on the board lately, I would gladly choose to have MOD continue as always and permanently ban the whiners, complainers and shit disturbers. The manipulation and games would push anyone over the fragile edge. I know many "valued" participants would be gone but it would give CERB a fresh start and I for one would be glad to see them go. MOD is constantly taken for granted by both hobbiest and SP alike. Has anyone ever thought of what would happen if CERB were shut down? I mean literally, off the air. Having this board is a privilege not a right. It costs nothing to participate and we all gain from it, but it costs $$$, time, heart and soul to run it. This whole "democracy" issue should have never happened. Who has the right to question and complain about MODs decisions to begin with? It's his board, which means his game, his rules!!! He has the right to make decisions without backlash or complaint from anyone in any form. If you don't like his decisions, LEAVE. There are other boards out there for you to participate on. Don't like those, start your own board. To all of those who have pushed MOD to this, those who complained and pitched hissy fits, give your head a shake, grow up and get a life. You have brought this on CERB. It would serve all those involved if MOD decided to simply close up shop and move on to something that doesn't require hyperbaric sensory deprivation treatments to maintain his sanity. You know who you are. All of you who chose to PM him, giving him a hard time about bans and suspensions. All of you who question his decisions. All of you who take petty squabbles to him instead of being an adult and taking the high road. All of you who feel it's more important to be right than it is to be happy. Life doesn't always work out the way you want it to. Accept it and move on. For those who have been banned, take responsibility for your part in it and....move on. Perhaps if some apologies and self policing were implemented, this would all go away. Use a little common sense and empathy from now on and maybe all of this can be resolved without complicating life any more than it already is. cat