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I don't think there is any naivity in finding the erotic appeal provided by a MA.... possibly it is simply an excellent example of having one's eyes opened.... so to speak.

I found it to be very nice I like the layout personally ! Just wish more used it

Hi, this is my 3rd year on Cerb, 1st year was mostly lurking and reading the various post and threads and getting to know the SP's/MA's and gentlemen on the board thru their postings. It was almost a year before I took the plunge to meet my 1st SP. She was a kind young woman that gave a great first experience and second experience. I met my second SP in the following year, and she was a great experience and I have seen many times since, and we have become good friends. After that I had my first GFE Massage and it was great which then lead to many more GFE Massages, Now in my third year of hobbying, I have started to meet many more Cerb women and each experience seems to get better and better. I even had my first duo last week :). It was exceptional :) This is a summary of what I've learnt from being on Cerb and my experiences with Cerb women :). What I've learnt from the Cerb Community: - it is a community of caring Men and Women. - it is a source of useful information - is a source of recommended women that have had proven reputations. - it is a place where information can be asked and answered - it is a social community where members have helped each other in need. - it is a place where discussions can be debated. - There are senior members that give good advice to the Newbie's - Also thanks the CERB MOD, he has does a great job, keeping the board running and moderating the members and post. - without the Mod there would be no Cerb. What I have learnt from the Cerb Chat Room: - This is a great place to make friends and meet the other members. - I have spent hours in chat, talking to the men and women of Cerb. - Have met people from around Canada. - I have helped and been helped with other members. - Some night we have a lot of laughs. - Other nights meaningful discussions. What I have learnt from the Cerb Gentlemen: - They are here to help others with information about the industry - They are kind and thoughtful men and know how to show respect to the women of Cerb. - Established gentlemen are proven safe men for the Cerb Women. - Some of them have a great sense of humour. - They have come to the assistance of other members in need. - Without the gentlemen, there would be no Cerb. What I have learnt from Cerb Women: - They are kind and sexy women. - They except people for who they are , regardless of race or colour or size. - All they expect is for them to be clean, smell good and show them with respect. - Please respect their time and limitations. - Arrive on time with the proper donations. - No negotiation of donations. - If you can't make it please call to cancel. - It takes a special woman to be able to do this job. - The women who really enjoy this job and pleasing men give the best service. - Beauty and sexuality is shown from within the person. What I have learnt from myself: - When I started I was a shy man around women. - Now I have more confidence and have no problem being naked with strange women :) - I enjoy spending intimate time with Cerb women. - I enjoy chatting with learning about the real person. - I have become friends with several of the women and keep in contact with them. - Women seem to actually like me for some reason. - As with all meetings, YMMV, But I've learnt to be a gentleman and have in general received better services then I expected :) - Always please the women first, and they will return the favour :) - As I always say, I'm a gentleman and the woman cum first :) Advice to Newbies: - Read the above facts :) - Respect the women. - Be a gentleman. - Women with recommendations are a good choice, but in all cases YMMV. - Participate and become part of the Cerb Community. In closing. I love being on CERB, it has become a daily part of my life. and Thank you to all you women for being sexy, kind, beautiful and emotionally strong to be able to provide the services that you do. I am grateful for the exceptional times that I have spent with Cerb women, they know who they are :). And I hope to have many more great experiences. Gentlemen and women, let's hear what you have learnt from your experiences on Cerb.

Like some of the other posters, for me its entirely about the chemistry and not about checking off boxes. In other words, a "low mileage" encounter can be extremely erotic with the right person, and conversely a PSE can be forgettable if those involved arent a good "fit". I'm not very active in the lifestyle, but when I do book something it is based on attraction, personality and reputation...and not because x,y,x is offered.

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Back to praising my favourite item of female attire (because its so easy to imagine removing it). This gal, Grace Miller @ Garden of Eden, is gorgeous and she's a lot of fun. I've seen her. This photo is of a new gal, Gabriella @ Garden of Eden who I haven't seen her, but I do love the way she wears a skirt and stockings.

Good Morning Gentlemen, I'm Sasha, a young fit and playful MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so let's make this experience as enjoyable and naughty as your fantasies.. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, brunette with blond highlights, golden tan, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Full erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery body slides reverse body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing music Fresh towels & linens Duos Some fetishes ATM available on site Schedule: Wednesday: 9am-5:30pm Thursday: 9am-7:30pm Saturday: 9am-4pm Sunday: 10am-9pm http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238 Join me for some hot steamy fun call: 613-820-8887 or 613-614-2117 -Sasha xxx

It's not the drug use, for me. It's the racism, the homophobia, the misappropriation of city resources for his own gain... http://jeromiewilliams.com/2013/11/03/updated-list-113-things-toronto-mayor-rob-ford-has-done-besides-smoking-crack-in-a-video/

Hmm, lets see here....Drunk or High he's still done his job 110% (saving money and helping benefit the taxpayers as well as expanding the TTC) Lets compare him to a few other in the media political figures; We have council man Snook in Saint John, who is a pervert, Pedophile and into child Porn and he still has a seat in council yet he's suspended with pay...Clearly this is way worse than a drunk and crack user, however I don't see the media harassing this guy day in and day out.(o wait probably as he is in a jail cell) And in London, how can we forget the Mayor Fontana who use tax money to fund his sons wedding...Another A class representative who is still in office and getting paid.... And Rob Ford is such a horrible person compared to these too he's an angel, he's messed up hugely however people like him even after all of this (plus he's not scamming tax dollars or into children) so he's ok in my books.

There are interesting comments about Soleil on the other 'erb board. Leigh might be another interesting choice.

To say that one experience with an MA has "converted" you is really naive of you to say. You can't have a similar erotic experience with an SP? Of course you can. It doesn't matter the lady, the acronyms she advertises or doesn't advertise, it's all about chemistry. Don't get hung up on acronyms, they mean nothing.

I want to thank all that have contributed to this thread and want you to know that today I spent some time with Vitto (rec to follow) and have experienced a wonderful session that will remain in my memory for a long time. I now understand the difference between the two and also understand it boils down to what an individual really wants. As for me I really appreciate a more sensual experience and have obtained this with a beautiful MA so now I can say I am "converted"!!

I have learned that a lot of amazing Men and Women participate in the sex work industry and they demonstrate better morals and ethics than most of the general community that look down their noses at them. Really that should not have surprised me.

No disrespect to any lady who can charge and get $1,000.00 an hour... good for her but I have to think that the amazing ladies who charge $300 to $400 an hour who are on here are every bit as captivating and wonderful. So either book multiple hours....tip large or bring her great gifts.

Sexy fun blue-eyed brunette beauty ready to get down and dirty. Come play with me today and we can get freaky. I am working at Ottawa's most upscale spa in the west end of Ottawa. I'm 5'7, athletic build, perky B36 bust, angelic blue eyes, long dark hair, seductive lips, golden tan, open minded, 100% natural beauty, fun & comfortable to be with... Services: Full Erotic body massage Reverse massage Slippery wet body slides Reverse body slides Hot tub for more intimate session Showers for 2 Fresh towels & linens Duos ATM Cater to fetishes, just ask... Call or text today to book your appointment with me today at 613-316-1412.

Im sure any lady on this site would happily raise her donation to $1000/hr for you, and since beauty is in the eye of the beholder you should not have a problem finding the companion you seek on here as beauty comes in many forms. Keep in mind if you are looking to drop that amount of money, screening and a deposit will most likely be mandatory!

Is mine big enough? :b

Bethany's Back! Your caring and sweet girl-next-door. Well-suited to those who are new to erotic massage, who want to be pampered with special attentions! Once we start our session you can relax and let me take you on a sensual journey that will leave you wondering why you hadn't taken the plunge sooner. Please see my website http://www.sweetestmassage.com and email: [email protected] to book your session today! Bethany's CERB photo album collection, available at: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?u=17242 Sweetest Massage Ottawa Donations: 1Hour Session $ 180 90 Minute Session $240 2Hour Session $300 Come relax with Bethany, at her easily accessible west end location, just minutes from Woodroffe and Baseline! Upcoming Availability Friday November 22nd 11am-5pm Friday November 29th 11am-5pm If you are mature, respectful and looking to connect with a gorgeous, extra-curvaceous, sweet and sexy brunette, please visit my website: http://www.sweetestmassage.com and if we seem to be on the same page please email [email protected] Bethany Xoxox

Hello Cerb..!! I would like to have your opinion about a subject that I would like to share with you for a long moment. I know that a similar thread has been do in another forum from another province but I thought it was important to make one for Ottawa. I have been solicited, Im sure Im not the only one, for ''only this service'' and not being offered the respect for my time or sessions. As well, the fact of underpricing, cutting price for these '' onlys''. There's a lot of users who asked me ''Whats your rate only for a BJ'' or ''I want one hour but not intercourse...'' Maybe Im wrong, but I dont see a difference between having intercourse or not in my session. So, what happen to our time?? Why ''just'' a BJ doesnt worth the same thing than intercourse ???? Probably some girls offering a '' BJ price '' and I respect that but some users have to respect girls who doesnt. I think that we are not offering ''just this'' or ''that service'' but a COMPLETE service even if you are SP or MA. Should we reduce our rates but start to ask extra for everything?? If you want to kiss here, its +x$... if you want to touch here its +x$... sounds ridiculous no? I think its the same thing for us when we are solicited like this. Maybe Im wrong, so that is why I asked for you opinion and I think we need to talk about it if we want to inform new users. Ps: Sorry For my english..... ;)

My CERB Name came from a quite some time ago when I met a lady who liked for me to put an ice cube in my mouth and perform oral on her....it was pretty nice... so when I needed an online handle it seemed like a good one.

Well I am not sure if all dogs go to heaven I am pretty sure I will never find out as I kinda figure when I pass on to my reward...it will be to some place very warm....the good news is I will already know lots of people.

Finishing up the painting of my living & dining room. It looks so pretty :) and bright!

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Kudos to you for getting anyone to respond to this thread. It was/is an obvious goof.

one day i accidentally pured the dish liquid into my dishwasher. I mistakenly though, liquid had already put in, so how bad it can be? Then started the machine. After 5 mins, dishwasher changed to one pop-corn machine. A mound of bubbles squirted from the washer onto the floor. after i almost spent 3 hours to clean the mess...... The lesson, some stupidities shouldn't repeat, but try once sometimes like me, it still has alot fun......

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Here's a link to a very, very similar thread. I think everything that needs to be said has already been said. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=117449

High end service doesn't come from the lady's donation. It comes from the companionship she provides. Look at the ladies' recommendations in Ottawa, and once you see a lady that interests you contact her and schedule an encounter. Likely she won't charge a $1000.00/hour. But if you want to spend a $1000.00 instead book a multi hour encounter with the lady to total $1000.00 RG

heyy babe my regular mentioned her shes nice from what I've been told outcalls are great dunno about incall. I've heard of UEA before although last time was years ago and they used to bypass fredericton and go directly to nova scotia im unaware if its the same ones as before or new owners/business ect.

Try Kayla, goes by Shedevil on the board

Yes that's right !!!! I order my sex toys off Amazon! Its always cheaper and package deals are great!!! why buy 1 when I can get 6!! I even bought some for my friends toys when I find a amazing product to get me to my BIG O!!

I currently have only one Guilty Pleasure...and i think she knows who it is... and to be honest...lol... i don't feel very guilty about seeing her.

In my thinking, these discussions are what makes CERB a great resource. The discussion has varied a bit from the OP question, and I'm glad it has developed along the way. All parties (MA, SP, Clients) have given their perspectives. Albeit it may be a small portion of the industry and client population. In my experience, questioning a cost vs. value of a 'service', experience, etc. will result in 100 different answers from 100 different people. As with 'beauty', it's value is totally subjective in the eyes of the beholder. Are tips/donations/requests/whatever reasonable? You have all the information to make that decision for yourself. The answer is the same as; What is it worth to you? Personally, a 30 min hot tub session, talking with a kind, caring and interesting woman is a steal where I've experienced it. I've tried other places which asked/offered more and less, I'm happy with who, how and where I spent time to relax. If I feel the cost does not justify the experience, then I will exercise my right to not repeat. And I read recommendations, posts and message providers,etc to make an informed and safe decision on where to spend my time. MA vs. SP? All are uniquely amazing people if you take the time to get to know them. And YMMV is a principle that always applies to everyone. The MA,SP,Hobbyist designation does not give anyone the 'right' or a reason to demand a service or experience from another person! (whether they call themselves MA, SP, Indy, Hobbyist, etc) they are a person, NOT A PRODUCT! my 5 cents, since pennies are out of circulation now. ElanRacer

I just wanted to ad my 2 cent here...I don't really like the way this thread has turned...as you can find sensuality in both MA and SP experience...nuff said!For the OP...like a lot have said...do your research and take the plunge!BJ xxx

I have been following this thread from the start and really it almost seems like and out right war. The main difference between SP Services and MA services are that EXTRAS ARE NOT ON THE MENU WITH AN MA. You are paying over all for time spent with a LADY, she will tease and tempt you in the way decided by the nature of her business Title. Myself, I chose to be an MA because I am more sensual and don't like to think that I need to force an appointment with a predetermined check list of activities that NEED to happen for my client to be happy and feel like they had the best experience. I prefer a natural organic sensual time spent with a gentleman that treats me like a lady and respects the rules of an MA working in a Massage Parlour. As it has been stated many times that Ladies working Indy have more freedom to blur the lines between what an MA can offer, but that is not everyone's cup of tea. IMHO if you want an organic sensual experience than an MA may be the option, and if your looking for a Check List of specific services then an SP is more on the mark for what your looking for. Cost may be a bit different from SP to MA but ultimately your paying for time spent with a Lady and how she makes you feel.... should that price tag change based on services???? That is a question that only you can decide for yourself. And to Clarify GFE MA is a Feeling NOT A LIST OF SERVICES!!!!! It is a connection that you feel like you know the girl and that she genuinely takes your feeling and desires and acts on them. I am PROUD to call myself a GFE MA, but not at the expense of Gentlemen seeking my services thinking that they will get more mileage because I state I offer a GFE experience. My take at least Kisses All XoX

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Yes I have. I have gone to her a few times. I recommend. PM for anything else you want to know

This. And I must say again Lexy Grace was also very memorable! Both of these ladies are a must when visiting halifax.

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The one major stereotype that I had about this lifestyle was completely wrong...that seeing companions was just about anonymous sexual encounters. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact some ladies don't just know my personal information needed for verification/screening, a couple know even more more Trust issues, the majority of ladies I see I trust, a couple I completely trust without reservation. To put in perspective I work in a law enforcement field (and isn't everyone in law enforcement supposed to be trustworthy and above reproach?). I find the ladies I see FAR MORE trustworthy than the vast majority of people I work with Definitely with the caveat that ALWAYS respect a lady's boundaries, but when I began in this lifestyle, I never thought a SP/Client could be friends. I thought that the relationship despite it's intimate nature stayed professional. What a pleasant surprise that in some cases friendships can develop, friendships as important as those in "civilian" life. And encounters are far more than just about sex. I personally like longer encounters, it has allowed dates to have time for a social, conversation, connection time. And it has made sex more enjoyable, being intimate with a woman you have spent time getting to know and she know you. This lifestyle has me involved in the most honest, healthy, meaningful and upfront relations I have had with women with no strings, no guilt and no drama A quick rambling RG

Damian709, As I'm from you're neck of the woods so I'll welcome you to cerb. The quality or success (what I assume you mean by top bookers) of a companion has nothing to do with age. It has all to do with how that lady interacts with her clients and the experience that she provides. If your "experience" has been that YOU have enjoyed your time with younger ladies more than mature ladies then that's great. Stick with what works for you. I personally have had some of MY best experiences with ladies that would be considered (lol) older. Their intellect and innate ability to understand what I as a client need has been no doubt brought on by their experience and the understanding that the experience is not just about sex. For your first post you decided to poke a bit of a potential hornets nest so please be careful. I recommend that you take your time and read the whole newbie area and become familiar with cerbs rules and tone. It might save you from getting stung. Hmmmm.......ending a post with "what do you think?" seems a little familiar to me, not sure why. Best of luck

I don't see why. Sure, this won't be everyone's idea of a great time, but provided both performers and spectators are on board with what's going to happen and what the rules are, I see no reason why anyone should be uncomfortable.

Always loved the Three Musketeers ... Porthos is jovial, carefree, a lover of wine, women, and song. Comic relief and larger than life! Porthos

Warning - this is a rant. I agree with so many of the posts. But, seeing as how I ride a bike year round my major peeves are to do with car drivers who potentially put me in harms way. One example only - I'm riding in the inside lane of a two lane street. There are parked cars to my right and there is traffic (buses, trucks etc) in the lane to my left. Some "person" walks out maybe 50 yards in front of me to their car and to open the door. I make eye contact and think everything's OK and then, when I'm about 10 yards away the stupid f***er opens the car door. This happens mostly at a Private School which is on the street I travel to get to work. I am a very careful rider - constantly checking over both shoulders and I obey the traffic rules. I've been "doored" and I've been "clipped". I weigh about 150 lbs. I'm no match for the behemoths that people feel they need to drive - big car, small dick. Get with the programme folks. I have a very small carbon footprint. How's about you? Told you it was a rant. Regrettably, I have to ride my bike on the basis that every car driver may kill me on account of

Not that I ever adhere to the speed limit, but some law abiding folks out there get really peeved at those who consider the speed limit to be the minimum. Bloody do-gooders!

Currently, at least here in the US, having to explain the endless stream of commercials for Viagra, Cialis, etc to my pre-teen children.

ignorance and intolerance - I can't stand it but I don't know why