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Well how about Ron Howard First as young Opie Taylor on Andy of Mayberry Then as Richie Cunningham on Happy Days And now he's a highly respected movie director Just a few movies he is noted for, Apollo13, Splash, Willow, Backdraft, Ransom, The Da Vinci Code just to name a few RG

I'm having a hard time reading this. It seems to me that a lot of people have preconceived notions, not about the bar but about the girls. Why is it that whenever strippers are brought up we have to bring up all that is seedy? I didn't think this needed to be said but here it is -- there are girls that genuinely like what they do. Exploitation happens, of course it does. I assume this to be the case for street level ladies more than any other group (and this needs to be addressed). Strip clubs are an entirely different ball game. I worked in clubs for years. Yes, girls had crappy boyfriends - who hasn't? Yes, some did drugs - not as many as you think. I met one girl in all that time that had a serious addiction and was dancing to support it. One. Dancers do not make the money that did 10 years ago. I know people like to think we are bringing in thousands a night. Wishful thinking. I heard all types of stories about gangs making girls work to take their money. I've never heard if it happening because it isn't worth it. If anyone who is actually involved in the industry has other insight I would love to hear it but rumour and heresay does nothing but hurt the industry's reputation and that of the girls that work in it.

Just watched this show the other night with Ron Howard as the child of a sheriff, I think it was from the 50's. He was very young and has been acting all his life and has turned out fine and to be a great director as well. Shirley temple as well Fame was different in those days perhaps But then again maybe not as Judy Garland is an example of the negative side of childhood stardom. lol, you beat me to it RG:) thanks for naming the show

I hold doors all the time for ladies. I've never once been chastized for it. Having said that, i also have no objections when they hold the door for me. Porthos

Hard to know if the problem is him, his entourage, his family, etc However, i don't have that much sympathy for people who screw up because they have too much( money, fame or power) and ends up on drugs and doing stupid things. Or for those who don't face the consequences. A non celebrity from a poor part of town with abusive parents that did what he did (vandalism, racing under influence) would be sent to jail without question. Even if Justin have "good" reasons to act this way, i don't get why celebrities get to have favor treatments. (well the money they make for the country obviously, but it shouldn't be that way) I think there is a lot of people and situation where people have it much worst and would need more our sympathy and help. People that actually want to be helped and are trying to get better. (i.e. people fighting deseases, depression or those stuck in countries at war)

The BEST example? Ron Howard. Ron Howard was "Opie" on the Andy Griffith Show as a child in the late 50's to mid 60's and re-emerged as Richie Cunningham in the early 70's on the show "Happy Days" Now? Ron Howard is an Oscar winning director. He directed Apollo 13, A Beautiful Mind, Coccoon, The DaVinci Code, etc, etc, etc.... he also was the creator of Arrested Development. The guy has been continuously and more remarkably, quietly, employed in TV and movies since 1959 - when he was just 5 years old. Now, a month shy of his 60th birthday, he has become the epitome of what may happen if a kid has great direction! ______________________________________________________________________ dammit both of you beat me!!!

Well I'll be the stick in the mud here, but frankly I'm kinda sick and tired of hearing about Justin Bieber. Seems every time I log on to the internet msn.com has another story about him. Funny thing though, for a "singer" none of the stories have to do with him as a singer. To me he's just a spoiled little rich kid. And like redskin pointed out, likely this arrest could be the best thing that could happen to him...judging from the smirk on his face in his mugshot maybe a bit of time behind bars could just smarten him up and give him some humility instead of a sense of entitlement and arrogance My two cents RG

Yes my friends, I have done it "my way"! Some may have noticed that my posts and threads are becoming minimal in nature (could be a good thing!). So as an update, the cancer continues to spread and has started to effect some nerves and cognitive stuff on a random basis. Docs tell me this is what I can expect for a while, nothing major, but all things being equal, by spring, my nerve endings will be really screwed up, memory may or may not be effected, speech may or may not be effected. They looked at me funny when I asked about my tongue! Anyway, hanging in, trying to get rid of this blasted cold provided to me by some uncaring asshole. Will continue to stay in touch while I can, hoping to be good for the next Ottawa Social, that is a focus! Will continue to drive and visit as long as I am able. Thanx, hope you all have a great weekend, play safe, play often and give the ladies lots of licks, kisses and hugs (YMMV)!!!!! Tom TheLiquor

It seems over the last year or so that every other media story out there is a tale of some young person or childhood stars who, older now, has gotten themselves in trouble or caused some sort of scandal or controversy. It's nothing new, I know, but between Lindsey Lohan's drug relapses, the national debate on Miley Cyrus twerking, and now Justin Bieber's arrest, it seems a common story these days and is enough to make one think no young person can be prepared for widespread success. So, cheer me up people! Restore my faith! Surely there are a lot of childhood stars out there who made it successfully to a stable adulthood. Tell me your favourite! Share an example! To start, I'll throw out Neil Patrick Harris. One of the shows I grew up on was Doogie Howser M.D: And Neil Patrick Harris is still entertaining today, and seemingly even more awesome and stable in real life than his current t.v. persona:

"Little Stevie Wonder - The Eighth Wonder of the World" had his first hit record at 13 with "Fingertips (Pt. 2). It's impossible to say enough about Stevie Wonder... Ellen Page - Started working on the Pit Pony when she was 10 and the moved on to performances in Rock Candy, Juno, X-Men and Inception. So far so good on the personal front. Julie Andrews - Starred in UK theatre productions when she was 13 and then Mary Poppins, Sound of Music and Victor/Victoria. She's made it to 78 so I think it's safe to say she made the transition to successful adult ;-) Anna Paquin - Second youngest person to win an Academy Award at 11 for Best Supporting Actress in The Piano. She's also done Fly Away Home, Almost Famous, X-Men and True Blood. (Tatum O'Neil was the youngest Academy Award winner at 10 for Paper Moon, but unfortunately hers is a different story entirely.) Tony Williams - OK this pick is a little obscure, but I think it's amazing that he lived to be a clean and successful adult. Tony was the most influential drummer since the 1960's and began playing with major jazz artists when he was 13 and joined Miles Davis when he was 16. Considering he was around significant hard drugs and alcohol on a daily basis during his adolescence it's amazing that he never developed any addictions. Unfortunately he died at 52 following minor surgery. Scarlett Johanson - Started in film when she was 10 and major roles when she was 12. Other than the usual celebrity gossip about her love life, she seems to have made the transition OK.

Drew Barrymore

Mayim Bialik...or as most of you would remember her, Blossom: Of course she's now on The Big Bang Theory, and in between she managed to pick up a PHD in neuroscience!

Here a couple of photo's I thought would be nice to share:) I took these in Cuba while visiting a family that lives in a small village out side of Varadero. Hope you like them!

The gorgeous and philanthropic Leonardo Dicaprio.

Hilary Duff, for someone who is more of a contempory of Beiber and Cyrus. She was a cute child star, she didn't do anything really stupid, she grew up and still didn't do anything stupid, got married, had a kid, still being offered roles so she doesn't have to go off the rails and do anything stupid. :) I think Shirley Temple did not make the transition into a teen or adult movie star, which I think suited her just fine. She had a chance to become US Ambassador to Ghana and Czechoslovakia and a few other appointments, including representative to the UN. She also apparently sat on the boards of corporations and organizations, including Walt Disney Company, Del Monte Foods and National Wildlife federation. which i find interesting lol. My mother was a huge fan of Shirley Temple, who was born about a year earlier than she was, so i know a lot of ST films and biography lol.

Most times, whenever a child becomes a star, they stop being a child in the eyes of their parents and become a golden goose instead; a revenue stream to be managed. Most adults aren't capable of handling that kind of fame and celebrity, let alone a teenager, and when his parents decided he was a cash cow and no longer their son, his story was destined for a tragic ending (which I don't think we'll see quite yet). I'm not absolving him of responsibility, but his negligent, greedy parents are just as guilty.

Not all men are gentlemen, and not all women are ladies. I don't think such response to your chivalry would come from a lady's mouth. I think you always win at being a gentleman, and it's their own lost if they don't appreciate perfect manners.

Wil Wheaton of Stand by Me / Star Trek TNG fame. Now a successful author as well as still appearing on tv as a guest star once in a while.

When you've had enough and at your wits end, having a dog come over and put his chin on your lap. Dogs KNOW when you have had a tough day... and they are the best at making you feel better.

The best way to find out about our club and membership is to book an orientation. We will be more then happy to assist you in your decision about joining. CMJ definitely isn't for everyone but, for many, CMJ is their only, or one of their many choices. The great thing is Ottawa has so many great choices and so many amazing women! Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you, Jasmin & CMJ team Sorry just realized I posted with a staff account that was logged into work computer. Mod if you could change? LOL thank God its Friday, I am exhausted! Jasmin

No that's a common misconception. However, they do tend to attract organized crime. A few clubs I've worked at have a heavy HA presence as they are the ones bringing in the drugs. I do not partake in those activities though so it took me a whole to pick up on what exactly was happening. The pink is actually owned by a lively older lady and run my her brothers. Her son does the cleaning. It's a family business

Duo etiquette rules: 1. Choose providers who either have seen each other naked or can stomach seeing each other naked. 2. Choose providers of the same species or genus. For example, do not ask if a provider will work with a chia pet, velociraptor or plank of wood as a duo partner. 3. If you have a kink about clothing, make sure that one or both of the providers do not show up in the same outfit you are wearing. One of you is going to look better and the other will cry just a little bit. 4. Establish well before the encounter who gets to be Batman, who gets to be Robin and who gets to be Alfred the butler. You can't have two Batmans. That's an international convention. 5. Establish a bacon friendly environment. Everyone loves bacon and if they don't, they can't be part of the duo. 6. If you own an iguana and it is fed through an ingenious contraption that automatically dispenses food onto an an awaiting plate, make sure that both providers see and understand. Everyone needs to know about reptile dish function. (or was that erectile dysfunction??? Maybe I heard it wrong.) 7. Gifts are nice but be equal in the distribution. You can't give a bottle of champagne to one provider and a package of lime jello to the other. 8. Nobody is allowed to fart. That's against the rules. 9. If you are playing Risk as part of the encounter, always remember to establish in Australia and secure Siam. That's a guaranteed 3 extra guys every turn. Duo chicks dig Risk. 10. Margarine should never be used as part of a fantasy. Always use premium dairy products, not corn or other vegetable based substitutes. 11. There is no 11, please proceed to 12. 12. I was kidding about 11, there is no 12. 13. Skip the clown fetish. It's weird and will freak EVERYBODY out. 14. Lube and crazy glue should never be kept in the same drawer. Trust me on that. 15. If you are new to the duo game, please don't send pictures of your penis to either partner. You'll get penis cooties and be unable to perform. ... that's what I have so far.... but then again, I am tired.

When writing a pm, email or texting, please do not send one liners! Many times, it come across as being rude. Ive been on the recieving end of this threw txting, hence the reason why I do not text anymore to make a 1st appointment! WE can not hear your tone of voice, so when you send something like this: "WHEN CAN I SEE YOU?" It just sounds rude. First off, INTRODUCE yourself! Say hello, how are you, I am Mr.XXX. The reason why you are emailing or pm'ing: I am interested in meeting with you on this date and time for this long. A little about yourself, if your comfortable saying anything, some ladies actually request that you do, some don't. Then sign off... Looking forward to hearing from you, Until we meet, or what ever. When you write an actual pm or email, we WILL respond! When I see something that is not like the above described, I dont even want to put in the effort to respond, since you did not take the effort to say more than 3 or 4 words to me! And I am sure I am not the only lady that feels like that! And most importantly!! Read her Ads, website and profile!! They are very imformative. Hence the reason why we put so much effort into them! The effort your going to put in by pm'ing "Whats your rates?", "What time do you start?", or the big question, "What do you look like?" will be alot less than clicking your mouse on the link to her website/profile! You just look very lazy and disrespectful! We are not asking you to write an autobiography about yourself or a novel! 5-6 lines is not asking for much! I know some men are men of very few words, but if you cant take a few minutes to learn about us and say more then a few words, then imagin how we think the encounter will go with you?! Starting an email/pm politely can and will get you a better or if any encounter with your choosen SP/MA! ****************** I've searched and could not find a thread about etiquette on pm'ing, but found this thread, which only shows you how to START a pm: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=15861 If I missed it someone let me know and Ill ask the Mod to add this post to it! Thanks, Tiffany Amber xoxo

While the most sensuous women have their own unique physical and intellectual niches one enhancement I absolutely love is sheer stockings. It increases the " sexyness" factor exponentially; The legs and feet seem to glow and all the best attributes ( especially for those who fancy legs and feet) are brought out. Naked is nice but a slight bit of silk or nylon adds to the tease as does a well timed smile. Just a thought...

Ohhhh... here a few more. Service providers are witches. NOT TRUE. Witches float and are thus made of wood. That's why they burn witches. Service providers are not made of wood and generally are not ducks either. Ducks float and are not made of wood. So service providers are neither ducks nor wood. Service providers tear the heads off of their mates after sex. NO!!!! You are thinking of a praying mantis. Praying mantises also float, but they are neither ducks nor wood, and also not service providers. Service providers are defenseless. NOPE!!! Service providers get their credentials from the Jean Claude Van Damme school of charm, grace and kickass. To achieve their credentials, each and every one of the graduates must face JCVD, a tiger and a fruit explosion muffin in a fiery pit of death. JCVD usually is the first to withdraw. Soooo.... if you are in the same room with a service provider know that she has faced and defeated JCVD, a tiger and a muffin with her bare hands. All service providers have a small portable barbecue in their bedrooms. I know, silly... right? Okay... MAYBE I did bring buns, condiments and raw hamburger patties to just one or two (okay it was 7) of my first encounters. HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT A HIBACHI AND HITACHI WERE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! Now that I know better... or ... ummm... okay... there may have been some form of slapping me in the head.... but she did say that she was an expert in the handling of meat. Just sayin'. Service providers need never shave their nether regions cuz they were born that way. Ummmmm.... damn. That's kinda true. Jeeeez. But.... hmmmmm. How do you explain..... errmmmmm. I am just baffled now...

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"his brain dead fans"- a pretty judgemental broad statement as I'm sure many of his fans are intelligent, normal people that simply appreciate his talent, which in light of his asinine behavior, he does have. And yes I would still feel sorry for him. Those who cause tragedies whilst engaging in stupid behavior are still in need of help, they are still human beings , and are still worth saving. If he had hurt or killed someone that would have been awful and something he'd have to live with forever, that in itself is punishment. Fame+youth+money+idiot friends+useless parents-if they are = a troubled, mixed up, kid with no direction and YES in need of help, not condemnation! It's always easier to write someone off when they "fuck up" time after time instead of trying to understand why and offer help or a solution.

Best wishes for you Jay! Take your time, and communicate with your chosen SP. By communicating this will ease your stress of meeting for the first time. Be sure to tell her this is your first time, so that she is not surprised and can take a gentle lead for you:) Have fun & play safe! xoxo

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not to put a damper on her but I heard on the radio that she is getting divorced already. This may be the derailment coming. I hope not. She Is a pretty good role model.

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"Why are there two?"

Happy birthday Peachka - have an amazing one!

Happy Birthday Babe!!! Hope you have a Great day and are super spoiled in the sexiest of ways!!! Birthday Kisses . YUM!! XoX

Of course I offer MSOG !!! But ladies we have time for a game of chess, scrabble and maybe even croconole between shots..... by that time I probably drank a bottle of Jack and .... oh ohhhhhhh ;) Kinda like my hockey days. I spent a allotta time going around the circles in the far end and the smaller circles in the middle learning skill and technique. Then I sinned and I spent a lot of time in and around the penalty box down yonder there ...ALLOTTA time... and then broke loose and threaded the needle right through the 5 hole ;) only needed one shot and made it count..... OHHHHHH YEAH hahaha I always try to get back in the penalty box but the refs don't always allow that........... I coach hockey. I sooooo need a tele prompter thingie and I can show you on the screen here. Just like Don Cherry or Nina Hartley would do....

Happy birthday buddy! Have yourself a little bit of fun!

Hope it is a great one!

I too, decided to drop in yesterday. Because of a birthday commitment I could only be there between 6 and 8. It was very quiet and the girls outnumbered the customers. There was no great pressure. Very few restrictions in the cr. Girls were ok - two were bbw one a proud grandmother all were prepared to spend a lot of time chatting. The bartender was very friendly.

Happy Birthday Peachka, hope you enjoy your day!

Was there yestherday afthernoon and saw Dice one of my favorite beautifull spinner pocahonta very bubly girl some of you mith now her she told me she used to work at the Den great in the cr

The link below seems to indicate the majority of sex workers don't want to provide bbbj, or be pressured for bbfs, so i doubt if it would be any different here. I would think the majority of sps would welcome a government regulation that was put in place to protect their health, in spite of some claims that they don't like condoms on cbjs, they like syphillis less, and this gives them the backup they need to be able to say no. They fine whichever one is providing or insisting on uncovered services, whether that is bbbj or daty. The fine is mentioned in my quote I think up to 2000 NZ $. As far as I know, the reason to regulate and make safe sex mandatory is a public safety issue plus this way all sps are on level playing ground, and none of them have to risk their overall health to be competitive. This way the client or the employer can no longer put pressure on them to provide services that endanger their health, and they no longer have to defend themselves for providing safer sex services. I think this link is from the review they did of the results of the PRA 5 years after it was brought in, this section concerns the safer sex requirement and some sp's responses about it. http://www.justice.govt.nz/policy/commercial-property-and-regulatory/prostitution/prostitution-law-review-committee/publications/key-informant-interviews/4-welfare-health-and-safety

I'm pretty late to reply to this thread. I wish I had seen it when I started my master's degree - there's a lot of useful tools here I would have appreciated despite doing a lot of them already (orgasms, yoga, reorganizing, scheduling, planning, exercise, healthy eating). The first thing that seems to drop off when I'm stressed and/or anxious is exercise and healthy eating. I convince myself that I no longer have enough time to practice yoga, meditate, or bike because I have "too much work to do". I've realized as time goes by that that's simply not a good excuse. I prioritize my physical and emotional health over everything else (or at least, I try to). I agree! Meditation is about paying attention to your breath. Breathe in, and count, breathe out, and count. Sometimes I can only meditate for 20-30 seconds at a time. At other times, I can meditate for a few minutes. I try not to get frustrated with myself when my thoughts wander but just compassionately recognize that I'm a human being and it's going to take me a while to learn how to let go. Damn right ;) Learning balance is still a work in progress for me. Sometimes I can't shut things off. I'm totally a workaholic and type-a personality school wise. Surprisingly enough that hasn't transitioned into my cycling practices. When it comes to physical activity I'm totally a type b and very laid back =P (I think I'm a bit lazy!) Really beautifully said Danjo. When I have friends and family who fret about fretting, I tell them to just embrace it, sleep, engage in some self-care type of activities. Sometimes we just need to ride the wave of worry. My mother used to always say "with sleep comes perspective". She's a smart cookie and I agree. Often when I go to bed worried I wake up and forget what I was worrying about.

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I have seen her. Def worth a go !!! PM me for more details