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I think it's up to everyone to set their own rates. It's a personal decision, and one based on a lot of factors that we might not necessarily know about. "Do 'they' even know the cost of living in Canada?" I'm assuming you're talking about recent immigrants of migrant laborers? I'm sure they do know the cost of living here, but need to make a certain amount of money to make ends meet. I have no idea, we aren't walking in their shoes after all... Ultimately we can't judge. We don't know anything about their lives or what determined their rates, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with self-respect or fairplay either... it's just people trying to make a living in ways they see fit. These things have a tendency of working themselves out. I'm really sorry it's making life difficult for you, Eve. I think that the really good clients, clients who are respectful and kind, will continue to see the ladies they want, regardless of the cost. I don't think it will drive your prices down at all. People are always transitioning in and out of the industry... Those that stick around (like you) and have good reputations (like you) will be successful in the long run. We need to hold our judgment and be in solidarity with one another. It's a tough industry! Just my two cents, Nat xox

I'm with Nat on this one.... the rate a lady chooses is up to her, and her only. There is no set local price. We don't know the reasons behind why someone decides on a rate to charge, and we have no right to pass judgement on them for what they decide. Charging a lower rate doesn't mean the person has no self-respect. It could mean they are comfortable providing their services at that rate. Or it could mean they need the money. Or it could mean many things. Similar things have been said about providers who choose to offer 15-minute specials, and I firmly believe none of us has the right to look down our noses at the girls who choose to do so, and I belive the same about the rate issue. What other girls charge has no effect on my business. My clients come to see ME, and I believe most of them would no matter what I charged. I am not concerned about 'losing' clients to lower-priced providers. Clients don't 'belong' to us anyway.

It's not an issue of supply and demand, that is a mistake that far too many people make in this business. Supply and demand would apply if we were selling widgets but we are not, we are far more comparable to knowledge workers, this business is all about the individual provider, their particular skill set, 'value added services' and of course relationship selling. Almost every lady has a different business and profit model, see three different ladies and you'll discover three different areas they focus their attention as well as different plans for success. Clients select ladies based on their individual needs and interests, cost is actually a very small factor compared to value. Yes there is a limit to what any individual client will spend but you only have to look at the various business models to know that there are clients in all price ranges and certainly enough to keep any one individual in a price bracket busy. If you feel like you are being undercut then you need to evaluate your own business, see what is comparable in your particular market segment and what sets you apart and focus on that. If you compare yourself to businesses outside of your market then you will always feel like you are on the losing end simply because it's not your market and not your business model. As always I'll use myself as an example, if I compare myself to ladies with rates less than my own I often notice they have a larger client base, work more frequently and have less overhead. There are also a huge number of clients that will see them and will not see me, some because they see no value in the particular date I offer and others because my consideration is simply out of their price range. If I compared my own business to these ladies I would appear to come up lacking in several specific areas, this does not however mean that I am not successful or running an effective business. If I compare myself to the ladies that charge more than I do I find that often they are travelling more (by request) and have a smaller but more loyal client base. Depending on their individual model often their overhead is a little higher and they tend to require far more flexibility in their personal lives - something I do not have. So again on a one to one comparison of any particular area I appear come up lacking but that doesn't take the entire business model into account. What truly matters is does my model work for me? I have enough clients that I am happy, my current model integrates well with my 'outside life' and it allows me both the freedom to pursue other interests without compromising on the things that are important to me when going in to an individual date. You have to compare with other ladies that are in your market, evaluate how your business is working for you and if there are areas you need to improve on. There is always some cross-over in clientele, some people will see me, you and another lady with a consideration that is either higher or lower than ours or perhaps simply has a longer (or shorter) date minimum. That part of the market isn't nearly as big as the people that 'shop' within a particular interest or business model and it's those clients that you focus on, the others will come and go anyway and you generally won't build a loyal clientele out of them.

http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/picture.php?albumid=7894&pictureid=51885 It's been so long but it's worth the wait. Have you been been wondering what I've been up to? Where have I gone? April showers bring May flowers... Come see what my little vixen Scarlette and I have been working on! Stay tuned for new pics PM for info. A name change may be in store too...so many new tricks to show you. Are you one of the smart ones that will allow themselves to indulge??? Stay tuned for new pics of Scarlette and Karmen ( Mandy66) xoxoxox

A clean bbbj is an oxymoron. Mouths are notoriously full of all kinds of microscopic wigglies. There are many providers to choose from who offer the service; many of them will be std/sti free but you can't tell who is and who isn't. There is no "on the spot" test to see if at this moment something lurks in her throat. Christy is right, this is something you have to educate yourself on. Speak with your doctor, read the public health information and then think on the best choice for your situation. What I will suggest is that when you find the provider, don't ask "Are you clean?". It's not a good way to start off an experience. My second suggestion is that when the "Oh my God, what have I done?" wave hits you afterwards, don't contact your provider asking if you should go get tested... cat

Pick a girl you are attracted to , review her site for her services then contact her:) But fears are going to hold you back from full enjoyment. So educate yourself, and well. There are many sites you can find reliable information about std's and how they can and won't be transmitted. Read up, or have an open frank discussion with your MD. Remember anything you tell your doctor is private and I think it's best when any of us are going to have more than one sexual partner that our doctors know as they are the best ones for health discussions. Nothing is 100% but most responsible and professional sp's take great pride in their health and taking care of their bodies:) I hope you find what you're looking for and that you can relax and thoroughly enjoy it:)

Although I agree with Nathalie and Cleo, I can certainly understand what Eve is saying too. Eve, just keep in mind that those who charge $100 for an hour in Ottawa (happens in Montreal too) are not targeting and attracting the same clientele you are therefore it will not directly affect your business... I know it hasn't affected mine ;) Cheer up :) xox

Any intimate activity with anyone, be it a professional companion, bar pick up, girlfriend/CL/wife ALL carry an element of risk...celibacy, well masturbation is the only safe sex and no, not being glib here Condoms are not risk elimination, they are risk reduction As Cat pointed out, never ask a companion if she is clean, and don't ask the lady if you have a morning after panic attack if you should be tested YOUR SEXUAL HEALTH IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY...you should get tested regularly if you are sexually active One more thing, while there is an element of risk in being sexually active, even if using safe sex practices, celibacy while safe (sex wise that is) carries something else IMHO far more unhealthy...and that is loneliness...and I am speaking from experience Anyhow, a rambling RG

My old (16) dog's having a dream in the other room and letting out some "yips". She's had a harder winter this year. Hopefully, she's having puppy dreams. When I went to check on her, she licked the hell out of my face. Bless her heart........and she still went out for a pee.

Here in Ottawa we have many satellite Health Clinics, where you can easily walk in get tested YOURSELF without giving nothing. more than a contact number IF something comes back. For myself, because I do seem to see a few ladies, I get tested every 2-3 months, and NOT once have I EVER tested positive for any STD. That said, I can honestly say, HERE in Ottawa, and of course some touring ladies I've met, the SP's that I've seen are very very meticulous about their health, and do their due diligence in getting themselves checked out as well. All I can say :) "if you have doubt don't pull it out" "the right selection is to protect your erection" "don't be silly wrap your willy" "if you think she spunky cover your monkey"

Nathalie has hit it right on the head. Those that have lower rates are not doing it for the purpose of undercutting at all, they are trying to make a living at it. You will always see rates, from a lower level to an upper level, and that has been part of this industry for a many years, from past to present, you can see that today from ad's here,EC,P411,BP or wherever the men seek services.

If you are not "more than" comfortable with it without worrying about it later....then don't do it !! Research, be clean yourself and if you do try it and go home and decide you are not comfortable ....then that is a decision YOU made and like Cat said....Nevar contact the provider about what to do. Go get checked if you feel that be best Then pickle your penis and preserve it until you are perhaps ready to play comfortably. ;)

For those of you who care about this sort of thing... Fairly good summary here, with links to further reading. You probably don't need to do anything about this unless you run your own web servers (and that means looking after the servers, not just having a website). Unfortunately, we have no idea who already knew about this, or how they'd exploited it, or what they'd done with the information thus gained...

I am a very positive, spiritual person and I support everyone for what they want to do and I try my best not to judge anyone based on ANYthing. I charge $XXX/hr inclusive and that by no means indicates how I value myself. I am NOT a stupid woman nor am I blind to the market where I am. I am also open to my limitations with hours, looks, wardrobe etc. No one knows my situation nor do they know me or what I deal with on a daily basis. I am a quality provider who cares, who has amazing skills and I try to connect with my clients. I shun many of the industry "norms" because I don't agree with them. I give pleasure because I love it and I want to do it. To have someone comment there are no quality providers at my price point or that I am not attractive because of my price point or that I am not a serious provider or in it for the long haul, to that I say piss on you...I am amazing. I may not be for everyone but for those who see what I am and what I give.. I am NOT my price point. I get very tired of these threads. The bottom line is do what you want. Do what makes you happy. Do what makes you feel good about you and fuck everyone else. If someone does it different say "you go girl". There are enough people against us in this industry without driving it home amongst ourselves. Enough already. Everyone has a place no matter rates, menu, looks, age, sex, or any other factor involved. We are all in this together and we are all important. One year in the making...I hope I said it in a positive manner.

Within reason, what we are selling is clicking and connection. It is next to impossible to put a dollar value on those two things.

I been on this board for many years and this is a subject that seems to pop up this time of year when business tends to be a little slower. I do recall a few years ago mod mentioned he did not want to see "street prices" on the board. I am sure if someone was advertising 100 an hr prices on CERB and he was made aware of it he would probably look into it. However this is something the OP would have to do as I haven't seen ads here at 100 hr. I saw one lately at 60 for 15 mins and that was BJ only. That's the lowest rate I seen on CERB for a long time. Responses on this thread have been great and I don't want to repeat what has been said. Just like to emphasized, we all have a budget we must respect however when seeing a lady, rate isn't the main consideration in most cases. Some choose to be Baskin Robin clients and want to see different girls each time they play. Their choice and surely they see ladies in different price range. Others prefer seeing a lady on a regular basis and that will be driven by connection and personal factors not by which lady is the cheapest. Finally there are those who don't care, excuse the expression but that say: "a hole is a hole", who will always bargain for a cheaper deal and will see the lady who offers the lowest price. Nothing anyone can do or say will change them. Just remember there are many of us who aren't like that!!!

Right or wrong...it's an argument I'm NOT willing to have. I do agree with Natalie & Cleo. I'm just thankful there's girls offering these prices. Because of my income I would never get to enjoy the pleasures of being intimate with a woman more than 3 or 4 times a year. I'm sure there's a lot of guys in the same position. I do have to say, I've never seen an ad for $100/ hr....maybe a 1/2 hr.

I think the question was already answered by the quote "supply and demand" if there is a demand for providers that offer services at a low rate, there will be a supply of ladies or lady offering that demand, is that not correct???

That was so kind and thoughtful:) I hope your kindness is repaid tenfold:) Today I went shoe shopping and broke my no spending spree:( I bought a purse and 2 pairs of shoes then went and bought coffee and donuts for the girls working in the shoe store, people get so surprised when you do little things for them:)

Good old Peter Mackay I am ashamed to say is a Maritimer. One good thing we have going for us is that we know he doesn't keep his promises. Remember this one when he was the last leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada. " I will never form an alliance with the Reform Party." So don't be too surprised if he fails to deliver on his promise of new legislation.

It was pretty funny hearing that "Minister for Democratic Reform" who wrote that tripping over his BS on CBC. Funny for a bit, then annoying, then infuriating. He stuck to his story despite being caught misquoting others and saying things that were outrageously incorrect. When he said "We don't have to listen to so-called experts", it got scary. The whole public consultation is a charade. They will do whatever they want. They know what is good for you.

Sadly, it doesn't sound good, "they want to help people "transition out of prostitution" More like they want to find a way so "people" can't peacefully and happily function within the hobby or profession/lifestyle. What ever the legal changes are I'm not changing:)

I enjoy some erotic spanking and was privileged to have been able to provide it once even though I was a complete novice. Trust is a huge thing once you get into the deeper arenas of spanking and people should realize this aspect. Also spanking is NOT just about hitting someone's ass. There ARE right and wrong ways to spank and right and wrong places. There are some areas that you need to spank lighter and some you can go harder with. I am not an expert but I have done some research and also experienced it first hand. While I may enjoy a spanking on my nice juicy ass, I do not like it on the backs of my thighs unless it's light. Like any form of rougher play, you need to approach it first with the mind then with the body. Establish some boundaries and trust and then enjoy the hell out of it. I would hope someone, as Savannah said, on a first meeting wouldn't suddenly just go to town with no prior discussion.

I spent a lot of time "doing the drill". Trying to find meaningful work to satisfy the mind, body and soul as well as meet obligations. Mostly that turned into a huge stress factor because, while I was good at it, I didn't "love" it. I always thought it would be cool to be a sex worker in some capacity but was too focused on the "normal" stuff to think much about it. I have friends in the industry who always said I'd be good at it. So, when I hit a crossroads a bit ago I said why not. Let's try something I love where I get to play by my rules. It's taken me awhile to establish myself for a variety of reasons but here I am, loving what I do, loving the people I meet and being true to myself even if that means I do things differently. For anyone who has ever took a look at my blog or read one of my stories or read something I wrote that I was passionate about, I think my love and need for all things sensual and sexual becomes very clear. I love to please, to entice, to pleasure and satisfy. I also love to explore. There is a whole lotta love for me in doing what I do and I thank everyone who has allowed me to do it *rawr*

First:) I don't refer to this as a job, to me a job is something that needs to be done or that you have to do. I do this by choice, not out of necessity and now, for enjoyment. When I first started experimenting in the adult industry the reasons were many-from - ' wanting to walk on the wild side" to bunk tradition, because I wanted to push boundaries, etc. None of the reasons were the right ones, until now:) I've tried it all too, dancing, running services, being independent, working for a service/services and through it all I've met catty vindictive girls, assholes, pimps, bullies, fake friends, cowards, the worst of the worst. Yet I stayed and I stay because I know escorting/providing and I have something together;) and that there will be and are good and nasty people everywhere and in every profession, neighbourhood, and lifestyle. Learning how to ignore and deal with the bad and appreciate and celebrate the good is key in living happily as is finding an activity you love and truly enjoy. I love how I feel after I have a successful encounter and how I've made the other person feel. I thrive on that excitement, joy, sensuality and pleasure. Its the good;) I can do this 7 days a week or one. 1 week a month or 4, 6 months out of a year, or 2 and until I choose not to:) I suppose that is why it's good for me, because it's something I don't have to do, it's not a job it's something, an exciting activity I've added to my now very happy life :)

I think Eva Pearl has a really cute bum!

I figured the 2013 thread was old news. My nomination for the 2014 year is Robynxoxo. It will be hard for her not to win the MA ... MVP .... In my books.

After a private dance with one of the girls yesterday, she told me that BF is expanding the second floor to add a legal brothel area to take advantage of the new sex-trade laws. Girls would be separated into dancers and sex workers. She didn't know exactly when it would happen, just that it would be this year, and would be a one-year trial run. I for one would be interested, as long as they are competitive with prices and services. There's a lot of really good competition out there.

Ug, these threads make me very uncomfortable, especially the way they tend to evolve. It seems like most of the time everyone agrees that each lady should get to run her business the way they see fit. But it seems like invariably these sort of conversations turn into judgements on others (even if simply by implication) and hurt feelings. Better not to make assumptions, especially in this industry, and especially about people. Do what works for you and what makes you feel good.

Define low rates????? You can't without stepping on toes here, as every lady has their own way of producing their rate. See, when we state lower/higher rates then what exactly is a lower/ higher rate? I've seen some terrific ladies at 200 an hour or a little more than 200 I have seen those that are 300 or more, and in fact 400 or more an hour and have spent over 1k with lady in the USA for a 3 hour session. Regardless of the rate, that it may be, there is always a "connection"depending how one individual looks at it and that can happen at 100 an hour, I don't know I have never seen a lady in my time for an 100 an hour,unless my mind is failing me from 10-15 years ago. Companionship is defined as a "feeling of fellowship or friendship" that can be found within ladies regardless of rates. I think giving your own perspective clouds the original OP thread start. A Courtesan is a SP with wealthy or upper class clients, I've seen many Courtesan's however I do not think I'm wealthy, perhaps upper class, but why the difference between a SP/Courtesan/ VIP lady? The fact remains, if the gentleman has the coin, passes the screening methods, is it not really all the same?? The thread was about undercutting, prices will always be from one pendulum to another, it is always "companionship" sharing skin on skin contact,sharing small talk, and simply being friends for that 100 an hour time, or 200 or 300 plus an hour...it's all just the same RG,and yes there is "something" and "somebody" a lady ....a human being trying to get by. I'm just looking at this from all sides.

I love ladies in nice heels. But you got to have nice pointy toes. I don't like open toes with the big toe sticking out. We used to call them "toe hangers" in the 80s. Lululemon yoga pants: Please consider whether they are appropriate before wearing them. Way too many wear them who really should NOT. Obscene sayings on t-shirts. Some are kind of witty and might be ok in the right circumstance, but almost all just prove to everyone else what a goof the wearer is. Harley Davidson stuff. If you have a bike, yeah ok, I've had several and have a ton of dealer shirts, a couple of H-D leather jackets I hardly wear. Why guys and gals who don't have a bike wear it I don't know. Camouflage. No. No. No.

If the lady supplies the partner, that usually works out the best. I know this from my threesome experience.

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One more thing. As Cat so eloquently phrased it "Mouths are notoriously full of all kinds of microscopic wigglies. " That said, remember the penis is more likely to have "microscopic wigglies" of concern. Put another way, the receiver of a bbbj runs less risk than the giver of a bbbj for an STD Just something to consider when a lady is offering one of the most giving, intimate acts she can. A rambling RG

The one thing that drive me nuts are the pants bellow the ass. How they stay up is beyond me. How they have to walk as if they were wearing a full diaper, and what the point of a belt, you already lost your pants. You might as well buy those traps to hold nylons up and use that instead. I'm with cristy on this nice fitting pants, no need for nut huggers and your not going skydiving so loose the parachute.

Canadian Bacon (1995)

Actually we do :) A group of cryptographers announced over a year ago that they had "owned" at least 20% of all the private keys from major sites and many others by using various techniques and speculated that if they had the resources of the NSA they could easily achieve close to 100%. They even set up a web site where you could go and upload your public key to see if they had the corresponding private key in their "collection" :) Do you really think the NSA invests all those resources, time, energy and money so they can monitor encrypted gobbledygook? Even though SSL won't stop the NSA from listening in if they want to, it is pathetic that CERB can't invest $30/year (I just bought one for $30) for a "trusted" SSL cert and do and automatic http -> https redirect to protect the naive CERB ladies using hotel Wifi from casual eavesdroppers. And if the MOD should read this and be insulted he need only drop me a note and I'll send along the $30 his way if he'll agree to do this (even though they once posted an annual budget in the hundred thousand dollar range).

Block flash, too. And make sure flash is configured to not store stuff on your machine; otherwise it can track you across browsers and across websites... In related news... M$ is bringing the start menu back :) http://mashable.com/2014/04/02/universal-windows-apps/

Checking emails, surfing Cerb in my Halifax hotel room and getting ready for some webcam...its pouring rain, windy and cold here brrrrr...where is the spring sun...snifff

Sitting back, enjoying a Wolfgang Puck Signature Blend Decaf, surfing CERB, watching tv and watching my cat, second day in a row, getting bent out of shape over the robin outside my apartment window RG

I prefer through the week and morning apointments myself , and also prefer balcony entrances rather than walking past the front lobby . Or the Ambassador has a lot of diferent entrance which keeps you away from the front lobby. For me the more discret the better , so the courtyard by Marroit is out for me , it is right in the middle of all those outlets stores . I hope this helps and look forward to seeing you when you visit sometime.

I didn't want to speak up too soon for spoiling the fun but I think the OP might have been more appropriate if it was posted a few days earlier. Seriously there are no new sex trade laws, yet. The old laws are technically still in force. Considering the current government it's not likely the new law will be favorable. If BF is contemplating opening a brothel it's likely just wishful thinking at this point. Can anyone corroborate?

Enjoying a nice glass of Bourbon and....... Cerbing!!

Our own SweetShay, She's a brunette now :) My favorite picture :)

1)wow...not much to add here...if you walk in with a smile, that's a bonus :D I2) adore my regulars because it gets better and better after each appt...that being said I like the excitement of meeting a new client :) 3)For me a regular is a repeat client...after a second visit he is considered a regular...now...I have regulars and great regulars ;) 4)I prefer longer appointements, no more half hours it's way to rushed, 2 hours and more is my fav that way you can get to know him better and build that connection! 5)Oh I love it...so nice to know that someone is thinking of you :D 6)That too is appreciated...I usually do not initiate such message but I love receiving them and will definately answer back :) 7)If I get in touch with them it's because they asked me to let them know when i was coming back...and I dont mind keeping in touch with reg clients :) as long as it's stays within the client/sp boundaries! BJxxx

I'm on a low-carb diet right now, but not a no-carb diet like the Atkins diet. I'm also not following this diet for weight-loss purposes. I'm on a high-protein diet to increase my muscle mass a little bit because I'm training for some intense cycling this summer! I still eat rice, but it's brown rice, and I still eat bread but I eat flax-seed enriched bread (for fiber intake). I'm really enjoying it! Like Savannah, I don't really diet. I don't own a scale at home but I judge my weight by how good I feel about myself. I also judge my weight by how snug my jeans feels. Nothing is worse than needing to buy new clothing because you've gained too much weight. It's a good barometer for me. If weight loss is your goal, dieting really is the key. Isn't weight loss 80% diet and 20% exercise? That's what I've heard somewhere anyway... It's definitely true that weight loss is about changing your life, and not changing how you eat for 12 weeks. It's too easy to put it back if you don't do a drastic change (but it can be a gradual change, right?) At the moment I'm really lucky. I can pretty much eat whatever I want whenever I want but I've noticed that my desire to eat tons of crap has dissipated with age. That's good, because from what everyone tells me, as I age it'll be harder for me to keep the weight off!

Even tho I received laser eye surgery years ago, I have to finally admit that I need reading glasses :(. I feel so old

For me its not just the shape, its how it looks from behind. My vote is for CAT.

Jackass.........,,