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Gentlemen, Not to be a stick in the mud, but it might be better to invite private responses to this type of question from one of the providers. No one has expressed public shock, but some, if not all, providers may not appreciate having their most intimate physical details discussed in a public forum. If you have information that you wish to share, you might also contact the OP by PM and disseminate that in a more discrete manner. Remember gents, we are talking about human beings with feeling, emotions and personalities, not a collection of random body parts that have been assembled for your amusement.

...has CERB been able to maintain such a positive and respectful vibe? I have been a member for very short time, but every time I come to the board and read ANY thread, it is always comforting and refreshing to know that there are a lot of good people in this industry (from both sides) who are genuine and caring. It is a breath of fresh air to get such a positive energy from people who I don't even know, and who are thousands of miles away from me. It is nice to see a lot of men have a deeper level of compassion and understanding for SPs; to see that tolerance and respect can really make a difference in the industry, it's truly inspiriting. Seeing the dynamics n this board make me see a bigger picture... If every human being could follow very simple and basic rules the world could be a better place, and that we don't always have to agree, but we can also agree to disagree respectfully. Anyway, I just wanted to acknowledge CERB, and all its members especially, the mods who are the ones keeping the order and integrity of the board. Thank you!

:) it is not (and has not been) easy to do. It does take a lot of moderation and a lot of really great members.

She was also a sex worker and brothel manager, and not ashamed of either. RIP Phenomenal Woman.

Being single after years of marriage has allowed me to be me once again. I am not modifying who I am to conform with the expectations of someone else - and I don't have to put up a facade to impress. If you know me, you know what I am about. The beauty of that? My opinions are my own. I am not bound to follow the expectations of spouse or the politically correct society in my own home.... and darn it, I really like the company I keep. My best friends? NOT the folks from work. I have seen the true colours of my comrades in the struggle to preserve democracy. When I got sick, THEY weren't there. When I got sick, my CERB family came to my side and have stayed there. In a way, I can truly say that I really do put the "ho" in home... and I love it!!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/maya-angelou-poet-author-and-activist-dead-at-86-1.2656694 A great lady has passed. I loved hearing her speak. May she rest in Peace.

Its really a sad loss to the world.... Such a wonderful inspiring woman....

Thinking of my dad....just hoping he will find peace....

Chickens. GrrrrRRRRRrrrrrRRRRR. Pretending they can make bacon. Preposterous! And they were crossing MY road.... damn chickens. MY road is meant for me, piggies and my friends. GGGGrrrRRRRRRRrrrrrrr

I get what you're saying. But there are three reasons why I'm cool with lobbing some cash outside our own borders: a) Bang for buck. When people are crushingly poor, even small and cheap improvements can make an enormous difference. Just clean water and a little education, some bags of rice. Maybe a little micro-credit to help people get small self-helping projects off the ground. Relatively tiny sums of money can make a big difference to the lives of a half-dozen, tens, or hundreds of people at a time. b) Budget allocations. I certainly agree we should spend most of Canadians' money taking care of Canadians; but if you've allocated (just making up figures here) 95% of your budget to Canada and its mothers and children, putting 5% aside for the desperate outside our borders seems totally cool to me. We don't have to keep every single crumb of our pie for ourselves. c) Self-interest: Moral and (less compellingly) security and economic payoffs. It makes Canada a good global citizen to help the less fortunate members of our vast human family. I'm not much into absolute "us" and "them"; we're all just lucky to have been born here instead of there. Plus, if we help improve the conditions and prospects for the desperate, then they're less likely to turn to violence to secure any kind of future for themselves. Economic disparity carries real risk. Finally, way down the road, the stable and growing nations that could result from aid make better markets for our stuff than millions of starving people locked in civil wars and food riots. Those last two are my weakest points: to get from subsistence aid to the desperate all the way to stable and peaceful market-nations is a long stretch. But I think it can't hurt to nudge the arc in that direction.

In rmt circles, the 'house' and RMT split the price of the appointment and the RMT pays the house for use and cleaning of the linens (towels, sheets, etc.) This is pretty standard practice with the split varying (50/50, 60/40, 70/30) and is why some RMT's go independent. I can imagine something similar in the MA industry, with the exception that the House fee is paid up front and the MA accepts donations and tips from appreciated clients. The house fee is to cover costs of taxes, electricity, water, etc. Some also charge a fee for cleaning the linens. That's is expected and proven to be fair for all. Now, I am not so naive to believe that there are not those who will take advantage of another. Make illegal or unfair demands. Enforce controls on acceptable donations/tips. Personally for this reason, I am very selective of where and with whom I am a regular visitor. <I may have gotten a little side tracked from the OP. Oops.>

I remember when my father put her book "I know why the caged bird sings" in my nine year old hands, and how transformed I was by it. Dr. Angelou lives on in many of us.

She truly left the world in better condition then she found it! She did so much for us as a humanity and as women! R.I.P

If I can precis all of this, it's quite simple. Treat every encounter as if it was a first date with a woman with whom you wish to share intimacy. Be: Clean, punctual, deodorized, groomed, generous, modest, polite and accurate with your funds. Don't Be: A dick. Accurate?

This is where it gets silly.. "not allowed" ?? By who?? is there some super-secret Federal Department of BlowJobs? The bottom line is this. If you feel comfortable providing a BBBJ then do it. If you don't feel comfortable providing one, then do a CBJ. You need to do what is comfortable for you. But getting on here and whining about feeling pressure or competition is a non-starter. How can anyone on this board believe that some of this is not a way to eliminate competition. This debate has gone on ad nauseum. If you don't feel comfortable with a BBBJ then don't do it. But again, don't try and constrain other providers with your ideas. If you think a CBJ protects you and prevents disease transmission, then there is no validity in the argument that those who give BBJ's are putting you at risk. A CBJ only policy should protect you from that if your arguments are true.

There is truth to this because I am one of I'm sure many who began to provide bbbj from feeling pressured, the need to be a so called "genuine" gfe and because more than not demanded it. But in saying that I could not justify allowing daty and then expecting the man to be covered. Joining cerb was an eye opener because years before, when I was involved with services, offering that service would get you fired, it wasn't allowed, ever! Now everyone, or it seems like everyone is doing it.To be honest I'd prefer it not be allowed, but who listens to me, lol!

Rude is very easy to decipher. The post itself however, is completely unintelligible. :icon_wink: I assumed you were drunk. (I still kinda do.) :icon_wink: :icon_wink: :icon_wink: Clearly you don't want to discuss anything, you wanted to make a speech. So, job done. Goodnight Christy, Kim EDIT: (To the topic at hand, I "thank" posts I find funny, bright, helpful or interesting. Who the poster is has no bearing on it.)

As many of you know, I have been a long time / original client of both Paradise Spa and Angel's Touch. I have been more than happy with the total environs and extremely overjoyed with the Ladies employed. However, today I was completely blown over by the extent, class, fit and finish that Marc and Angie have completed with the new rooms, the new entry, all of it! From really big showers that easily accommodate my big ass to the mirrors, lighting, water jets, new fluffy towels! As usual, very, very clean and comfortable. An absolutely outstanding accomplishment! In my humble opinion, there is not doubt in my mind that this experience is THE BEST massage experience in Ottawa and possibly Ontario!!!

You've lost me, I have no idea what this post even means? The above is needlessly rude. imo Starting a thread doesn't allow you dictate who can post or what opinion they may have. You asked a question but whenever given an answer you don't agree with you attack the post/er. When you repeatedly post passive aggressively about what you perceive "others" are doing wrong, eventually someone will point out it's best to worry about your own posts/business rather than harp on what everyone else is up to. kwim? As evidenced by a few of your recent threads, if you seek out drama you will find it. Kim

Maybe I'm off the mark here, but I thought agencies (real agencies) were so called because they were acting as agents (ie representatives) for the ladies, not as their boss. As agents they did their bookings, screening, driver, security and so on for the lady The model used, where an agency is considered the employer and the SP an employee and the lady has to do what the employer says...sounds more like a pimp, and that already is illegal....not to mention as for being a pimp, since already illegal, do you really think then laws banning bbbj are going to deter him. As for enforcing this no bbbj law, how is that going to be done. Having a law is one thing, enforcing it is completely another A rambling RG

I believe a boatless fisherman was unable to ferry her back across the road - but then why would he want to?

They hide the phone #, that is probably so no one sees this: http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/escort-service-hiring-18/1740405 The name of the agency is also hidden, Barely Legal is the name. But that term is usually blocked on most sites. they don't have a problem showing the number probably in the hiring ad. I do think that anyone promoting "Barely Legal' to be the agency name is a problem. You've got one seriously unhappy sp in this ad https://cityxguide.com/diamond-and-starr-18/ You also have an agency who has no problem using face pics for these new sps. I do not feel this agency has the best interests of these sps in mind. They are advertising for 18 to 21, petite build, and my guess is all the ads will say the sp is 18, barely legal, or new. Which will end up attracting some clientele who like to push boundaries.

They are employees. "not allowed' means the services are required as a condition of employment. Many agencies make it quite clear what services are required for new employees. Most sps know this. i think the only time a client knows it is when they mention the sp did a 5 second bbbj, then covered it up lol

See Katherine. Tell her what you need. Problem solved.

A wonderful lady who will be missed by all. She really enabled all women to feel good about themselves and happy with what they have . She made us all realize that the inner self is much more important than the outer shell. I will miss her words and wisdom. Rest in peace, Dr. Angelou.:(

I can only speak for our business but the Door Fees go to the business for overhead and the good old cut to the tax man off the top.....and ALL tips go to the ladies :)

[quote=...I'm open for a smaller meet and greet...let me know :) BJ So were you thinking ...keep it simple, pick a nice spot on the same evening and people can drop in and stay as long as they like.

I totally agree with you. I am a single peep, no worries about covering my tracks, can come and go as I please and leaving lipstick on my shirt is a happy memory not an "oh shit this isn't coming out". I'm also not on a timeline, so yeah to me it's great. All great things does have it's drawbacks though, coming home to an empty house isn't always what's it's cracked up to be as well as always going to bed alone. So just like everything in life, it has good and bad points. Loner (one more week till retirement, now I really won't have a timeline)

Having my baby sister to talk too....so precious! Bianca

Yep, and I was with her! :) Sorry to have missed you, curmudgeon. A beer next time, OK?

That has to be one of the silliest comments I've read on here in ages. You obviously have no idea how CVD works or how many Canadians are affected by it. If you don't care about your own health, that's all fine and well, but don't confuse your old age for medical wisdom. Incidentally, stress and lack of sleep also contribute to CVD. Additional Comments: Erectile dysfunction: The leading indicator of heart disease in men http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/08/17/erectile-dysfunction-the-leading-indicator-of-heart-disease-in-men/

A via ticket and a plane ticket :)

The sun is shining brightly in Halifax!!

I think that is a great summary of the overall thread :) you are very perceptive! If I could add one final thought it's to continue the "undicklike" behaviour after the encounter. If you are going to write a review keep it classy and discrete, leave the details and the YMMV in private. Most ladies do not want to feel like you are giving a virtual high 5 to your CERB buddies, bragging about how far you got. It's not a locker room :) xoxo

Well I wasn't late, really, as I wished her on Twitter, but late on here, hope it was fabulous Carrie!

I'm not entirely sure I understand the point of this thread - so instead of assuming I'm going to ask for clarification... Are you suggesting that there are members of this board, primarily women (given what you've written here) that only "thank" or "nominate" their friends posts, and not just anyones? Please clear that up for me, as I am unsure of your meaning :)

Hey she might end up at CMJ. Posted via Mobile Device

Ah... I'm late! Glad you had a fantastic day!

Besides the major and obvious turn-offs that have been covered on this thread (poor hygiene, lack of communication, bad manners, negotiation, etc), one of my biggest turn off is the client that you have to constantly remind that this is a no string attached escort/client relationship that works BOTH ways. There is a minority of men who cannot just take our "relationship" for what is it, and won't hesitate to pronounce the "L" word. They soon will develop a sense of entitlement and even become jealous, possessive and intrusive. They will constantly try to push your emotional boundaries. They are used to conquer in order to get what they want. You will give them a inch, and they will immediately ask you - or take - the mile. Not a second it would cross their mind that you may already be in a solid relationship or even married. I find that quite disappointing because it actually usually starts with a great chemistry...However their perception of the escort-client relationship will soon get distorted. Personally I find this to be extremely emotional draining. If I find myself in the obligation to burst the client's bubble more than 2 times regarding the nature of our arrangement, I will unfortunately have to fire him. I understand that this is a sensitive service and that as human beings we cannot always control our emotions - and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. What may turn wrong is how those emotions are handled.

The keys to making encounters extraordinary is actually quite simple. First, do your homework to ensure you understand your guest's expectations then do follow thru to make it happen before he arrives to the best of your ability. The next thing is THE key... STAY IN THE MOMENT from the minute you open the door until you close it after he leaves. By staying in the moment I mean... 1. Do not allow random thoughts floating thru your head to take hold. They are clouds, just let them float thru while you focus your attention on your guest. Don't allow the "am I doing this right?", "does this angle make my stomach look fat?" or "I need to go grocery shopping as soon as he's done." to interfere with your time with your guest. This time is about the two of you together and nothing else matters at this point. There is time to process a worthy unrelated thought after he's gone. 2. See the humanity in your guest before all else. This is the part of him you want to touch deeply. He isn't a business guru, construction worker, accountant, father, brother, son when he is with you. He is simply a man, with all of the qualities that makes him strong and vulnerable at the same time. Recognize this, let him be himself with no expectations that he is anything else. The human connection is the one that he will feel and not forget. 3. Follow the bouncing ball. Watch, listen and respond to the story that his body and tone of voice tell. Words can be deceptive but the body always tells the truth. He gives you all the clues you need to make a visit spectacular, you just need to be open to seeing them; to do that you need to follow the moment and trust your intuition to decipher what he is actually needing rather than just what he thinks he wants. It's easy once you practice it a bit, like karaoke. Just watch the little red bouncing ball of "right now". 4. Remember the humanity in him first and foremost. Make a mental file on him. After he leaves, think about what you learned about the real him and file that gold away. If you connected with him, he'll be back and you then have the keys to getting him to shed to masks he wears in the outside world, allowing him to once again just be himself but more efficiently than the last time leaving more time for genuine connection. Follow these steps with every visit and before long you are the Sanctuary he seeks when the outside world is closing in on him. You are who he turns to, to forget, to reconcile, to release all of the stresses that hunt him. These may or may not be conversations of words but more often with my guests they are a ballet of touch, movement and physical expression... Remember that this interaction isn't about you, it's about the both of you. It certainly isn't all about the sex. The physical is simply a vehicle to express ourselves together; it's about releasing what is needed and renewing one's life energy so we can meet the world another day from a positive frame of mind. A man comes to us because of a physical urge but that is merely symptomatic of the underlying need for connection without negativity whether your guest realizes it or not. He never needs to understand your process but he will never forget the time he shared with you if the connection to the real him is made... This is what I think makes an experience memorable... cat

Maraena said it .... a real experience. "Make it real.....don't fake it real" A sense of mutual enjoyment in spending time together. It can be sensed by both parties !! and results in us guys coming back. And as time goes on and repeat visits happen ... chemistry, comfort zones and trust builds and it becomes so very easy and fun. Dates to look forward to. :) It just takes time. You have heard "be yourself" Jade eh ? ;) Well truth is it will play a big part in keeping us coming back !! Genuine smiles, sense of humor and personality is huge in repeat business for Me as an example. It is hard to fake a smile time and time again. It is hard to be funny when you are not, and it is hard to be someone you are not. and Hey. Maybe even make friends. Can never have too many of them.

Watch for Katherine (from Halifax) when she tours St. John's.

Check out Nancy @ 172 St Joe's she is great.

I worked out then went for a nice walk to loosen up and go for a tan... got completely soaked walking home in the rain, but that was ok it was nice and warm and the fresh air was wonderful!

The sound of the rain as its starting to pour down, so soothing to have as a background noise....

Earlier this week, my youngest daughter's boyfriend went old school on me and ask for permission to marry my daughter... I said " Go for it." Tonight, my daughter called to tell me that she and her "fiancé" are getting married in the new year!!!

It's not the least bit silly though to draw lines as to what is the level of comfort to take where risk is concerned.. I draw the line at BBBJ.. but I enjoy daty.. so that's my level. Some choose BBBJ but no CIM. Some enjoy BBFS and this is where 95% of us I'd say draw the line at level of risk.. Some enjoy BB anal.. and that's where those who offer BBFS may draw the line.. BB anal is definitely riskier than BBFS.. Wherever your line is... your choice. At least for now anyway. In Australia.. BBBJ is illegal for providers to provide as part of the service in certain provinces. I believe Queensland? last I looked..

I find these kinds of threads about BBBJ really irritating. Not because conversation about shared intimacies and health matters shouldn't be had, but because of how talk about sucking dick quickly shifts into the 'politic of the ick' (a term coined by sexologist Carol Queen). I will speak for myself. I love making out, I love having my pussy licked, I love sucking cock, alot of the time BBBJs and CIM (oh yeah baby), and, yet I do not identify as a PSE at all. Not a meaningful term to me. I'm GFE all the way. I do not make clients wear a dental dam to give me oral, and I do not put saran on my face when playing tonsil hockey. There are plenty of service providers, including popular and highly reviewed SPs who do not do BBBJ (understandable, and a very personal decision), but the idea of being concerned over providers 'being compelled' to provide BBBJs, and then omitting the way we normalize and by and large broadly accept DFK and DATY as meaningful and commonly provided services inherent to the work, (providing GFE), is problematic. Assessing the risks, negotiating the fun to be had, and getting regular health checks including throat swabs is a must. Let's not turn all SPs into victims of risky clients, and let's focus on empowering workers to enjoy working conditions where they can refuse work they deem unsafe....not to mention increasing access to non-stigmatizing STI health screening, and ongoing education. Signed, Cum lover

I wish I had the benefit of the warnings contained in this thread before I decided to try 24/7. That's why I started this thread and that's why this section exists. I know when you're in need it's easy to believe that which promises to sooth your yearning. Even when the obvious is telling us otherwise. I've been there. It's a hard lesson but we're glad it was only 140$ you lost and not your life. This is a good community so let's take full advantage of it and help keep providers and hobbyist safe by trusting the words of those who take the time to post for the benefit of us all Thanks for posting.