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its out of control ... some anti c36er accused me of promoting child sex work after my recent interview for the NP. She actually tweeted that she had attended a workshop I did promoting youth sex work.... like wtf??? I immediately told her she must be mistaken, that I had never spoken in public. She did apologize and retract her statement but how many people saw it before that happened? Turns out she was falsely accusing another young lady who works with aboriginal youth. Pretty disgusting behaviour.

There is someone with a pro-C36 agenda. His/her method of attack has been to cherry pick the worst of whats said and display it as being representative of what happens in this industry. Recently, through some digging, she/he released the name of someone (a member of another forum) on twitter. This person has been getting cheered on by the other antis. Be especially careful now. I feel comfortable here posting more information about myself, but I have started being extremely selective on what I share. I know most are, but this just gives me the creeps.

You are not the only one who feels this way. You are not being picky or unreasonable because ultimately you have to do what is best for you. If it doesn't feel right then it means it's not for you. Always trust your instincts in this business. They never fail you. I feel the same way. Most here know of my dislike for BP. I've tried advertising there a few times and didn't like the clientele. Mostly low ballers, students who not want but expect a deal for 10 minutes. I have 20 year olds telling me my rates are too high and they can go get service for x amount as if they know everything.. Well why are they still talking to me? lol. I'm offering an experience, not a 5 minute bj that they seem to so desperately want. Then if I quote a rate for whatever length of time, they want to know the rate for a particular act. I'm an established SP. Granted, I'm not 20 years old but I believe that experience counts for something and some people appreciate that I take the time and effort for my clients. I'm sure there are some good SPs on BP but it's just not for me and I haven't had luck with it. The business has changed and while I have great regulars who appreciate spending quality time with me, I won't lie and say the thought of semi- retiring comes to mind. I don't like the direction the business has taken and I don't like being treated as though I'm someone who is a revolving door who just performs specific acts all day long. I see 1-2 clients a day since I have other things that pre-occupy my time. I have also moved over more into massage than escorting and it's something that I enjoy and that I'm good at. I am considering approaching that avenue in a professional manner. BP strikes me as one of those sites where some of the men (not all) who use the site as a get in and get out type transaction with minimal except for finishing to completion. Fast, quick and easy. What happened to the experience of being with an SP? It's just not there anymore and I'm not going to change how I conduct my business because people expect me to do 15 minute appts because other ladies are. That's their perogative and that's how they run their business. However, it doesn't mean that I have to just because someone else is doing it. The customer is not always right. For every 10 callers on BP, there was one decent client but in my experience that was also a long shot. I don't want to pay $12 USD EVERY SINGLE DAY to deal with some people who have no regard for me, that are rude, don't care for what I offer and only what is best for them. I've even had pimps try to contact me and other shady people trying to solicit their illegal business through the ladies on BP under the guise of being a client. I didn't sign up for that. There has to be a mutual respect and I certainly wasn't getting that vibe. I'd rather get a root canal 10 times over than deal with that. I can't tell you how many times I advertised on BP and wanted to rip my hair out that day. I have met many great clients on Cerb and there is more of an appreciation towards the service provider. And it's sad because most of what has been negatively said about sex workers regarding the new proposed legislation is in relation to sites like BP where it doesn't take much for someone to take a few pictures, with a cell phone number and call themselves a service provider. They don't take into consideration the community that is here and not some site where names and faces change on a regular basis.

Disclaimer: I realize that the majority of you are paying for a sexual service and that your needs should be met within the boundaries of the escort in question. That is the service I am providing. However, that being said, I would like to call attention to what I like to refer to as "jack-hammering." This is basically extended penetrative sex and nothing else. You may be convinced that good sex requires only penetration and stamina--as well all know, women want a man who can last (I hope you can sense the sarcasm there), or perhaps it is purely selfish on your part, you do want to get your money's worth after all. So you pound your paid sex partner, over and over, squeezing in every possible available second. In which case, I am not a blow-up doll. I am not an object solely for your use. Keep in mind, I do not think it is a problem, for example, if you would like to simply pay to receive a blowjob, provided you realize the skill and time involved in administering a good blowjob. And I do not think penetrative sex itself is bad. But if you are interested in engaging in a full range of sexual behaviour, please realize that "sex" does not simply equal penetration for as long as humanly possible. After awhile it is painful, un-stimulating and rather boring. If a woman is not turned on, she doesn't create those delicious lubricating fluids that can make penetrative sex so wonderful. So take the time to pay attention to things like kissing and groping and licking and nibbling and so on. If the first thing you're going for is penetration, you have skipped so many amazing, naughty fun things to do to one another. While we are providing a very intimate service, aimed at generating your pleasure and satisfaction, we have emotions, and physical limits. So keep that in mind the next time you're with your favourite lady. Happy pooning!

I'm not a ridiculously experienced hobbyist but man when you find a really good SP that is professional, courteous and just a great time it really makes it an awesome experience

Well although single, I'll offer a quick comment. Take it for what it's worth. When one enters into a relationship be it bf/gf or CL or marriage, something serious, not casual, something that implies exclusivity and monogamy, there is, or should be an understanding by both the man and woman that part of that relationship includes sexual intimacy. I for one believe that all women, including those in a marriage, are free to decline to have sex. But those women who have the right to choose celibacy for themselves IMHO are not free to impose celibacy on their husband. Put another way, the term cheating is bandied about for those who see other women. But really, how can seeing another woman for sex be cheating when sex is denied at home. What exactly is the man cheating on? If he received sex at home with the woman he completely (sex included) committed to, he wouldn't seek it elsewhere. And a sexless marriage where the woman is denying sex, she also isn't completely committed to the marriage Show me a marriage without sex and I'll show you a marriage where someone is seeking it elsewhere A rambling RG

I am so happy beautiful Berlin is discussing this issue! I wish some of you knew this: The female body it is made for multiple orgasmic experiences thus if you care to make us come and have an eletric session with you. All you have to do is ask us: How do you prefer? Where and how can i pleasure your body, breasts, thights? How can i perform date on you, to arouse you? We are in the age of the Godess, thus most sexually confident female knows what she likes and dislikes in bed. Some of you even get mad at me when i try to give you tips on my sexual likes and dislikes. And some of you are all about been generous and sensual according to my personal sexual preferences in order to make the best of our encounter and the result it is hot sex mmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Some guy even told me it is "natural to penetrate a lady hard". I would say the word natural it is a dangerous word to use in sexuality and aesthetics. It is natural to allow gas to flow freely, should i fart on your face during sex because it is natural? No right? I prefer gentle and slow sex, but once i am more warm up i will ask for more action. I think desire and lust should lead in bed, not the strength of your male hips. I would prefer that you touch my arms, my legs and my back and my waist and my back before you touch any sexual part of my body, and please be gentle and please warm up your hands before touching us. The beauty is: Some of you already aim to please, but you are rare and you know who you are;). When you penetrate us hard without any care to increase our pleasure we just want to make you come asap, because it hurts.

I've been meaning to write this and get it out for a while but never had the courage to do it before now. We all have our reasons behind our hobbying. Some are lonely, others are in a stale relationships, other like the variety of meeting new people. I was in a hedonistic/open relationship before meeting my wife. My ex and I had a mutual agreement that we could venture outside of our couple, and that worked well for 7-8 years until eventually my ex fell in love with someone else. So, at that fateful day in Spring 2000, we parted our own separate ways. A year later, I met a wonderful woman. We got married, had kids. She is my best friend and we share lots of things in common, but sex isn't really one of them. While she has always had a rather low sex drive, I am the total opposite! For year, I have tried to make her try new things, but to no avail. Knowing how "traditional" she is, I have simply given up on that and based on my past relationship, I seek the company of lovely SPs from time to time without feeling remorse when I get back home. I love women of all shapes and nationalities and cannot imagine having sex with the same person the rest of my life. I have too many fantasies I want to live, I love black women, I love BBW, I love latinas, I love tall, blonde, spinner types, I love punk/goth/tattoed chick with piercings and coloured hair. Heck, I'd even be inclined to meet a nice trans SP one day. But dammit, I want to go out there and meet beautiful ladies, get to know them and spend an intimate moment with them. Yet, I love my wife and kids and cherish what we've built as a family and cannot even think of one day leaving my wife. Since I have no one to talk about this, I sometimes feel like the "lonely married man", as I have no one to talk about it than myself. So, kindred CERB members, do this make me hypocritical? Am I living a lie or can I truly have my cake and eat it too?

Is it just me or have other ladies notice the difference between BP and EC / cerb/perb? As a few gentlemen that I have opened up to a little as well as a few SP's know about some big life changes I have been making and the circumstances regarding that. Hence I rarely partake in this endeavor , but when I do i usually just find it easy to poat a quick ad on BP. Most of the time it turns out to be a huge mistake and i usually get un desirable people that i would like to avoid. Basically it is not a good idea for me to post on there. I have however found a few great guys on there, but they are also guys that are from the boards. Im feeling like i should just go back to posting on here ans leave BP alone. I dont know ? Am i just being to picky or un reasonable? Additional Comments: Also I apologize for the horrible spelling. Its my phone.

Again, I am commenting a little off topic but since this point is being discussed... Ryan, I think it is important not to generalize here; not all SPs offer (unprotected) Daty because of the "market demand". Some of us actually enjoy it and enjoy it a LOT. The same can be said about other sexual activities...

I've been lurking for a little while on cerb since my first encounter back in November of last year and appreciate all the great info and reviews that everyone on here contributes, figured I would give something back to the community :) I made the arrangement to go and see Tiffany Sunday early afternoon after seeing her ad on EC and reading the great review Pedro gave and was glad I did. Setting up the appointment was quick and easy through text and I was all booked within minutes. I arrived at her condo downtown and was blown away when she opened the door. I was greeted by a smoking hot tanned little blonde wearing pearls a bikini and heels just like I requested... I knew I was going to be in for some fun. After the initial kisses and hellos I took my shoes off and made my way in. The entire place was spotless and had a nice relaxed vibe to it with light music playing and candles lit everywhere. I made my way to the bathroom.. again spotless and had everything laid out neatly. We sat on the couches for a bit each enjoying some wine and conversation/teasing.. I'm usually a bit nervous and don't have much to say but this girl was fun and easy to talk to, really laid back and intelligent had me laughing quite a bit :P We made our way to the bedroom where the real fun began... this girl had everything I like... nice perky titties, sexy face, toned body and an ass I couldn't stop grabbing lol. bbbj was the best I've had yet but after seeing that tight little kitty I knew what I wanted more.. the view from behind was amazing and cowgirl was something straight out of a rodeo. This girl loves getting vocal and has quite the dirty little mouth on her which turned me on even more haha. After all the fun I grabbed a shower and shared another glass of wine before departing.... very satisfied :P would repeat and will.

People who use bad grammar and spelling all the time drive me insane.... That and mini vans....

I have the luck of working at VIP and I get to eat delicious pho at least once a week si vd we are on top of a pho restaurant hehe... their soup is really good... favourite #20 with BBQ pork.. yummi i am feeling hungry now lol

I GET TO MEET YOU! Yay!

I guess this qualifies as a skirt:

When the money is given to the Provider it becomes Her money. When it is taken back after the fact it is considered stealing. Humiliated and robbed. Wow.

If you ever encounter any sort of problems with anyone while working, anything ranging from sexual assault to theft, intimidation, abuse, harassment, threats, stalking or anything else, and want to talk directly to a female officer who will listen and help (if you want it), here is the name of an Ottawa officer who has been helpful to sex workers in the past: Sergeant Patricia Ferguson Sexual Assault Section Tel. 613-236-1222, ext. 5463 Or, to anonymously report to the police any kind of bad behaviour you've experienced: Bad Date Line Call 1-800-303-5407 - anonymously. http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/ServingOttawa/SectionsAndUnits/saca/baddateline.aspx From Ottawa Police Services: Working in the sex trade can make you a vulnerable target, and predators count on the fact that you may not report crimes against you. We need your help to identify and track serial and predatory offenders. The anonymous reporting system is for individuals victimized while engaging in the sex trade. By calling the toll free number (1-800-303-5407), you will be prompted to leave a message regarding the details of your assault along with as much of an offender description as possible. Information gathered could be the missing link needed in identifying a serial predator. The anonymous and free Bad Date Line gives you an opportunity to report sexual and physical assault without revealing your identity. For more information about the Ottawa Bad Date Line, download their pamphlet (PDF, 206k). The Ottawa Police Service understands the desire of victims to remain anonymous and supports the Bad Date Line in an effort to identify potential serial offenders preying upon victims who they believe will not report the attack to police. The Bad Date Line does not subscribe to caller ID and no attempts will be made to identify callers. It is preferred that victims contact police directly to report an assault so that a proper investigation can be conducted and ensure a predator is removed from the street. Ottawa Police treat all victims fairly and equitably. If you wish to speak with an officer regarding an assault or receive more information regarding the investigation process, you may contact the Sexual Assault Unit directly at 613-236-1222, ext. 5944.

Pho Bo Ga La. The original one on the side street in Ottawa. November 2009. Had a date with a guy there. I've tried some all over the world...this one is the best. EAch time I go to Ottawa, I go there:)

The ad posting as just what you need (spelled with really silly letters) with the phone number 587-3-2-3-1573 is asking for a 25 dollar cam show before meeting, I am sure that will end well.

- putting my dry feet on a wet bath rug. - the questions: what are your origins? or Where do you come from? (from here!). - saying politely ''no thanks'' to a telemarketing phone call but the caller keeps talking to me, having the hope that I will listen to him/her. Nope. I hang up. -wet dishes on dry clean dishes (no! no! don't do thaaaat!) - bright light everywhere. My sunglasses, please. - not being able to swim lengths at the swimming pool when the schedule says we can. I become a swimming tiger. Don't approach me. I have to stop because now I feel in the mood to bite someone! ;-)

whenever I meet a gentlemen "gem" from bp, I make a point of telling them about the boards and ec. So many don't know that recommendation boards exist!

In my opinion, if this is a concern: 1. Ask "is it safe?" (This can actually sound a little playful) 2. Don't do it (DATY that is) For those like me who enjoy it (tremendously), this is not a major issue. If you happen to get the timing wrong, there is usually very little chance of getting a surprise (so to speak) if she is laying on her back. You will likely see it on your fingers (if that's part of it) and you just switch places!! Everyone gets a turn in my world!! ;) All this of course...my humble opinion.

Should I get blamed for getting an erection when I see my wife half naked or in her undies walking in the house, bending in front of me or seeing her fripples through her shirt? My wife is very good looking, she is tall, blonde with beautiful green eyes, nice size boobs(36DD) and a round bubble butt that I love spanking. I warned her that when I get older and she will look for it that it might be pointing in the wrong direction so that she better learn how to do a head stand for me to drop it in.lol I make the best of it and try not to hurt anyone in the meantime. Hopefully one day soon she will get it back and I will have to quit coming here and chat with all of you.:icon_cry:

I don't see it as secrecy, simply what the buyers market here has dictated. Canadian clients expect bb daty and many take convincing to actually use a dental dam. Here in Ottawa I have only had one client request the use of a dam before we've met in the last decade. I can't speak for other providers but that indicates to me that it just isn't that genuine a concern for most hobbyists. Unless of course it goes wrong as this thread has indicated. I'm going to clarify something that seems to have escaped some. How often does a provider insist a client go down on her? Think about it. Daty is performed for the client, not the provider during a first, second or even a third apptointment. I have yet to meet a provider that says "My guys have to go down on me." Most of the providers in my circle would prefer not to have guys perform daty until there is some connection and trust. In my experience, a woman has to be able to relax in order to enjoy it which seldom happens at the onset of this dynamic and I also believe it should only happen at her request. I consider daty a consumer driven service when it's listed on a menu and often an appointment will hinge on whether or not it's provided; many men decline when they are told it's safe service only. If there was genuine risk management going on, clients would realize the chance of menses and the dam would be requested regardless of whether or not a provider admits to being on her cycle or not. To me this is a case of having your cake and eating it too. From a practical standpoint I simply don't see it going both ways. If you want unprotected daty, then you assume the worst possible risk is present and accept it or you use protection. Until there are legislated health and safety practices in place (which most of the industry seems resistant to according to the bbbj thread), the fact remains that a man never knows what is happening in his providers reproductive organs and the onus is on him if he wants to perform orally. If daty is that important to him, he should insist that precautions are used or accept the consequences of his decision if the results are less than he desired. Anything else is simply abdicating responsibility... cat

meatloaf and salad

I worked in "china town" or little Vietnam for 15 years. My favorite place was a on Booth St in the basement of a building. Looked sketchy but the kitchen was the cleanest in the area. I would clean out all their hood fans. It was New Me Fung. Loved the shedder pork with vermicelli. The spring rolls were fantastic as well

I won't comment on all of your reply since we appear to agree to disagree on most points, which is totally fine of course. But I think my point on secrecy is black and white, if a provider does not disclose her cycle and engages in vaginal activities...she is keeping it a secret, not sure how you can argue that. I agree with your preaching on the use of dental dams, but as I have been told on numerous occasions that I "most likely have had a session with an SP during her cycle", it has never been suggested "you should use a dental dam, I am having my cycle". Agree that each party needs to manage their own risks and be responsible for their own health, which we all know can only be guaranteed by not participating in this industry. Informed clients and providers perform research and weigh the risks, they do that with the knowledge available, keeping some information from them skews the risk assessment process and yes...I see it as secretive, I think most would.

No one can be responsible for anyone else's sexual health but their own... cat

I refuse to use BP as I have had several unfavourable experiences, the only time I will use it is if there is a very well reviewed lady on there but I am sure it's 100 times worse for you ladies.

It's a good thing he reached the 5 post mark to do so. Go on nik11 share the story or give her a nice recommendation. Make sure to pass it by her before posting it!

It's tough when you have found your soul mate and there is only one little thing that does not work well. I have the same thing going on in my life and I share your feeling SolidSnake. I could never see the day that I would leave my wife, she completes me. I fell in love with her many years ago, I had no control over that. I'm hoping that in time she will want to have more sex. I was told that a woman after a certain age will get horny and she will need it more often, that is my question. True or false?

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I saw your pin up photo on the link you just posted!

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Sitting on the aisle on an airplane and getting bump every 2 min without any apologies...grrrrrrrrr my blood pressure was hitting the roof! There is absolutely no good seat in a plane...window seat you are stuck and you often freeze...middle...oh no not in between...and aisle...well you know... Which one do you prefer?

Roasted rosemary potatoes and bacon, cheddar sausage.

I'm super excited! My first Ottawa social. I've heard many great things about them ;)

Simply put, I'm home! Three weeks away and lots of amazing things happened. For the first time since I have been alone I was not itching to get home as soon as I was away! Progress :) However, there IS no place like home. :)

I had so much fun last night! Thanks for coming to say hi, it really made the night feel special. No idea when I'll be back but you guys certainly reminded me why I dancing is my first love. Xx

@ Dorinda, I agree, it wasn't nice at all ! Hi guys, I couldn't read this thread without adding my opinion. First off, I'm sorry about this incident, it must have been really awkward for both parties. This being said, I think it's important to discuss such matters so people are better prepared to deal with this type of situation. Personally, I do not like working during my period, I will most likely take off for few days.... The body needs to rest. For hygienic, health and physical reasons, I prefer to take some time off and rest when I have my periods. This being said, I think it's perfectly fine for a lady to choose to continue her work during her period and I think it's perfectly fine for a gent to be told so he can choose whether or not he wants to see a lady on her period. It's her body and it's also his comfort. Whatever decision you make comes with consequences and you must be prepared to face them. Also, let's face it, it does happen that we unexpectedly get our period right before or during an appointment, and guys please be understanding, there's no need to humiliate a lady & make her feel bad. I think there are mature ways to handle those situations. For me, key words are transparency, honesty & consideration for others. Let's be transparent, honest & considerate of others to avoid any awkward situation and this goes for both providers and gents !!! Thank you

Well there has been alot of criticism, judgement and jumping to conclusions here. Admittedly i have been part of the problem. As disturbing as most of this thread is, part of me is glad its here as i had no idea providers would continue to work, let alone offer vaginal services while menstruating. Its been enlightening to me to learn of the integrity (and lack there of it) of some providers. I contacted a public health nurse and asked about sexual activity during menstruation. I was told this increases risk for BOTH partners. BOTH! Not only because of the chance of the presence of blood but the increase in bodily fluids. IMO the risks are high enough already in this business without needlessly increasing them. Someone asked what should the protocol be. From a clients prospective i would not be comfortable with any vaginal services at this time. I would however be fine with companionship, erotic massage ect. My suggestion would be 1 - Dont work. Take some days off. Have fun, enjoy yourself, have a "me" day. Whatever you want to call it. 2 - Be upfront when someone calls to book an appointment. Maybe they are willing to take on the extra risk, or comfortable with a less intimate encounter, or reschedule. 3 - If for some reason you don't think you can do either of those, please restrict your menu. As far as the question "what would you do". Thats hard to say for sure and i hope i never find out. Unlike the OP ive had some time to think about this. If i was thrown into a similar situation where i was meeting a sp for the first time, new nothing about her, she let me go down on her, with no heads up on what lies ahead and i found my mouth touching a bloody sponge, i would probably wash myself throughly, leave and never come back. I would have to wonder if she is trying to hide this, what else isn't she telling me? For all i know she might have just been diagnosed with HIV, mad at the world and out for revenge. If it was someone i knew and trusted or if she started her period as we were together thats a totally different scenario. As far as the donation is concerned i wont even go there as i would never be so inconsiderate as to put a price on someones heath and well being. The bottom line is use some common sense. I would never knowingly sacrifice the heath and safety of another human being and would expect the same in return. I don't think thats to much to ask. JMHO

I'm confused by those comments too. I had a very good experience and will be going back to see Vanilla.

So I'm going to suggest this again because I like to bug you mr.t Can you please please please make naniomo bars please!! I've been crazing them all year *insert puppy dog eyes and quivering lower lip*

There have been a few. Angelina and Holly, Jazlyn and Kelly, and at least one other set at Nevada and bw . Angelina and Jazlyn were to of my all time favourites. Who have I missed.

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