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During a certain number of year, I thought I knew it all. I thought everybody on here was looking for the same, being the same. Quick research, some interest, a phone call, and a meeting - or not. I never researched, really, where a name was coming from, as most are descriptive of the personna... What a mistake! So, who was Cato the Younger (or Cato the Stoic). This might be a little subjective... Cato (also known as the Self-Made-Man) was Julius Caesar official opposition. Nor did he had the essential qualities of a war lord, nor the man power to be heard loud and clear. He had to do with what he had, in the very heartless city of Rome. Instead, he wrote his own rules, that he would follow religiously. Cato was also the last citizen of Rome... 1. Master the power of gestures; 2. Don't compromise - EVER; 3. Fear NOTHING; 4. Use pain as a teacher; 5. Don't expect to control your legacy. If I look at the list, I can easily recognize where my friend is coming from. Here's a short description of the man, according to the ''fourhourworkweek.com'' (source): Cato didn't have Caesar military skill, or Cicero eloquence, or Pompey's boyish good looks. But he had something even more formidable: a determination to hold himself, and those around him, to an insanely high standar. He asked to be measured by a standar higher to winning or loosing in Romain politics, and that's why he still matters long after Rome went to ruins. We should remember Washington's favorite line from the Cato play at Valley Forge: Tis not in mortals to command success; but we'll do more... We'll deserve it.'' Have a nice day, Chaton!

It's even better if you're respectful not because of the rewards you expect by being so, but just because that's how we should always treat one another. So says Cato the Stoic, my inspiration, anyway :)

Hey guardian; I know it is not easy some times but after reading your experience let me share my approach to strip clubs. Go into the club with a plan and a cash limit in mind and stick to it. I try to set my own expectations by gathering intel on any ATFs that might be working (or not) that day. I only use cash and refuse to use the machine. Ok, I admit I have broken the rule but only a couple of times over the last few years. I have a couple of dancers I see regularly. One ATF I pay a fixed rate for about an hour of time that sometimes is only 55 mins but many times 10-20 mins over the hour depending upon circumstances and whether or not someone else might be waiting. The other dancer takes it for granted that I am committed to an established pattern/habit of 15 to 20 dances; which is the way more expensive way to go. She is young, and on one occasion after we shared many tequila shots she tried to take advantage of my amiable disposition to entice (almost bully) me to stay for more. This annoyed me as it dawned on me that she sees a large ��� stamped on my forehead. I got somewhat short/annoyed with her and she later apologized. We are still "friends" and I still pay lol. It is easy to forget sometimes as we tend to get lost in the moment and fall prey to our own (maybe delusional) fantasies and forget that it is "work" for the women, and although this may sound crass, many dancers use what ever tactic or approach on you to win your interest/loyalty to maximize profit. I realize this is a generalization and some do not target us for maximum profit but try to establish a "friendship" and what comes naturally usually happens over the long term. As long as we remind ourselves of this fact and keep the reins on our discretional funds that we put aside for SPs/MAs/Dancers, it is all good. If I have no intention of taking someone to the CR, or have other plans, I let them know within five minutes of conversation by either saying that "I am waiting for someone", "I have spent my quota for the evening", or "I am just enjoying a drink and I may look you up later". If an ATF (regular) is involved I tell her I don't have the time right now or I am tapped out tonight and I will likely see her the next time I am in the club. Bottom line is, you are the consumer; you have control; it is your hard earned cash and you should make the choices to ensure your time is enjoyable, fun and respectful for all parties involved.

Sabrina, you have overwhelmed me with your kindness. I'm deeply touched. I will never forget this gesture. Thank you! I am honoured. We have met only once, but it was a very special moment, where every minute is remembered and cherished. Thank you for that, and for keeping in touch with me afterwards. You are a very wonderful person.

I thought of this topic because just before I had a session with this woman,I was on twitter with her having a chat. I told her that I was 4 ft 9 inches, 300 lbs, hairy and had size 13 feet :). She said that she did not judge and that if there was minimum of respect, anyone can have fun. I asked if she kissed and she said maybe if I was kind. Another time I had a similar discussion with another woman. She said that she did not discriminate on race, color, size, but as long as I was a gentleman and clean. When I arrived at the spa and was shown a room. I waited patiently. Then the door opened and stepped in a beautiful woman. She looked at me with a sigh of relief and immediately knew that I had lied. I was not hairy lol. Thus began a great session which we both enjoyed and had a laugh about. Moral of the story. Be kind, be respectful. As like like a gentleman and be clean. And don't lie about being hairy. And have great sense of humour :) Got to love the women of Lyla. So accepting of us men of all size, shape and nationality :)

I feel your pain, backrubman, and I must say that I admire your desire to be fair and good to the woman you love and for this hypothetical 'girlfriend' who would not get to have enough of you. Your wish of staying on the right side of the law, however misguided we may think it is, is also commendable, and as you note, the consequences of getting caught straying on the wrong side could be harsher for some. I wish I could provide advice and guidance, but I have none to offer. best, toine

When developed it was Time Out Flotation (owned by Cal it was initially a dry cleaners) which featured sensory deprivation flotation tanks which were the rage in the mid-80's after a movie called Altered States featured them. At one point there were 50 or so tanks in operation at a variety of facilities in the city. Once the craze passed it was converted to a separate space like EB, then became combined. The tanks were pretty cool. Peace MG

I love strip clubs. I find them a lot of fun. I enjoy spending time with a pretty girl, getting to know her in a completely fake environment that favours me, the stage show, the back room, all of it. Okay, maybe not the overpriced drinks. One thing that I really find fun is the stage dance participation. How about a discussion on how to handle this? Tips. Tricks. Warnings. I usually try to arrange this beforehand so the lady has some idea and isn't surprised. One of my regulars had never done it before, so we chatted about different things she could try and how to practice at home. There aren't a lot of Youtube videos about how to grind on a stage. I made sure to do it when there was nobody else in the club one Monday at noon. She did a pretty good job and accepted criticism well. Hey, it's her job. Right? Without feedback, how can you improve? Doing your job better means getting paid better, hopefully. I like to see the dancers as people who are doing a job and interact with them a bit. I'm not at a vending machine. Tipping amount. I used to see $5 tips, but now I spend at least $10. Tipping location. Rolling the bill up lengthwise and putting it in your mouth is just rude. Also, possibly, painful. Don't do it. Certainly feel free to grasp one edge of the bill in your mouth to hold it there, against your lower lip and chin. I find the best place is in your belt. She's going to shake her goodies in your face regardless, so don't put anything in the way. If you want her to put on a show, put the bills where it will give you the most action for your buck. If she has long hair, you may be in for a surprise treat. General advice. Don't be a dick. You've gotten her attention. With any luck, she'll remember you and come visit. Don't forget to smile. This is supposed to be fun. Ask her to let you know when she's finished. When she says you're done, you're done. Get off the stage. She's the one putting on the show. Let her do her job. She's advertising for the back room. This is not the champagne room. No touching (on your part). Keep your hands/noses/tongues to yourself. If she pulls your kilt up and exposes you to the room, just go with it. Hopefully, nobody faints this time. Getting onto the stage. Some guys throw themselves on stage before the dancer even sees them approach. They'll come up over the seats and just lay down anywhere. I've also seen girls trip over a guy when she didn't see him there. I always approach slowly and catch her eye, then wave the money as I approach the steps. It gives her a chance to prepare her wardrobe appropriately before you get there. I walk up the steps slowly and use the pole to lower myself to the floor gently. I find that being near the pole is good because it gives the girl support to bounce on you or do a pole spin onto you (DANGER!). Getting off of the stage. Be graceful. Don't stomp around like a bear. Roll over onto your hands and knees and push up. Don't fall. If there is a pole or railing, use it. You're not insured up there. Take a bow or give a quick wave to anyone cheering. The show aside, behave like you're a gentleman and the woman who just shook her jigglies in your face is a lady. Again, if you arrange it in advance it is fun to bow and kiss her hand. Maybe that's just me. The Face Trick. This is getting more popular. She takes your bill and creases it lengthwise, then tents it over your nose and mouth. She sits completely on your face and her natural moistness sticks the bill to her when she comes up. The problem now is with our new money. It is so light that the slightest breath, movement or breeze will send it off target. No need to ask me how I know this. I think we may have come up with an ingenious workaround for this problem. Put your regular donation in a more secure location (belt, sticking out of a front pocket, etc.) and use a 10¢ Canadian Tire bill for the trick! I mean, what were you saving that for anyway? I now have a few that I'm going to keep in my wallet. ($1 CT money? Oo! Big spender!) Bouncing. If she sits astride you and bounces in place, that's part of the show for the other patrons. It won't likely do anything for you at all. Be honoured to be included in her performance. Keep your hands on her knees (if facing), ankles (if not), or out to the side. You can add wild gesticulation if the latter. The crowd loves that. She may grind on you. That can work. The Pole Drop Trick. If you're very lucky, you'll get to experience this. If you're beside the pole, hips just north of center, a talented dancer can do a pole trick and land on you at the bottom. It's a great vantage point to see the trick from, but it can be painful if done incorrectly. A controlled descent is important. A SPINNING controlled descent is amazing when done correctly. Let her position you and don't move. Again, this is more of a performance piece than an act of carnal savagery. The Hidden B J. If she has long hair, she may shield your crotch from the crowd with it and shake her head back and forth vigorously or up and down in a visual mockery of the much beloved 'B J'. Note: she is not actually giving you a B J. She is NEVER GOING to give you a B J. It can be a bit of fun, but is mostly for the show. Enjoy it for what it is. There may be some ancillary contact. Don't read anything into it. The Prom. She takes you by the hand and puts the other on your shoulder. You do the same, but put your hand on her waist. Keeping a good 6" between you, you dance awkwardly for 3 minutes and leave the stage frustrated and alone.

For me, being respectful is a requirement. Nobody deserves respect. It should always be granted. Being kind gets you "much" bonus points...

I'll be away from work until Jan. 3rd. I will be back at that date. Kylie xox As I take some time off over the hollidays I would like to thank all the wonderful people I have met in 2016, you are and were all amazing. When I started on my own I was very unsure what would be in store and what kind of people I would meet. Well it all went very well, learned so much and experienced so many different people, and enjoyed each and every one of you in your own way. I have had some ups and downs, but mostly ups and loved all the experiences no matter. I will have new pics in 2017 to start another amazing year, also somewhat new other things hehe. So I wish all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and cannot wait to be seeing my dedicated and new people in 2017. Thank you all, Kylie Jane xo

Love the positivity! I reflected on some life changes and embraced them today. It was difficult in acceptance but moving forward is always progress! Stay lifted <3

This British lady is everything I wanted in one. Bookings is easy, her text messages might fool u into thinking she is cold and has an attitude, which I did, but when I finally saw her today, I found her to be a very friendly and sincere lady. The way she threw her heels on the floor made me feel like being in a movie, seductive and natural. Speaking of which she definitely has a movie star character, gorgeous face, and the smile. She also threw her panties later which was another sexy move. Her body is smooth, soft, and in great shape, a few delicate tattoos. I'm a feet guy and she definitely has a pair of cute and sexy feet, it's hard to find a perfect pair of feet like that. I can't emphasize enough on how natural our time was, she meant everything she did and I enjoyed everything she did. Soft tongue, soft lips, with a side of willingness, dangerous combination. The rest can be summed up in: ultimate gfe. I'm always cautious about the time cuz I don't want stay longer than the set time. When we are done I said "I wish we didn't go over time", she said no way with a big smile, but then we saw it was literally right on time. I don't think anything speaks louder of "no clock watching" than that, she enjoys the time with you, which honestly is the reason why we do this and ultimately that's the hardest thing to get. Hugs and goodbyes, until next time, Charlotte Quinn.

Hi everyone, I am new here and I was interested to see what everyone was into here:) As for myself, there's nothing I crave more than a man who know's how to handle me in the bedroom. I enjoy being handled by a tall, strong burly man who can scoop me up and toss me on the bed, then flip me over for a good rear glance and exquisite entry. My ultimate fantasy these days is to have a gentleman of this description have his ways with me until I couldn't orgasm any further. The thought of maxing myself out seems adequate for the stress I have had lately. In addition, it's been a loooong time since I had such an intense marathon, and I think I am ready for one again sometime soon! I'd like to see what's on everyone's mind encompassing this topic, so what is your current sexual craving?

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Lets break all the rules and push the limits in a relaxing session of massage and pleasure. You will leave completely satisfied and you will come back again and again. Im waiting for some one to play, who's game?

Why let Stephen Harper and Peter Mackay who created these contradictory laws rule your life and your happiness? You have nothing to feel bad about. As most men who are members here, they look for the most reputable ladies and at the very least try to find legitimate intel on new ones. As long as no one is getting hurt or doing anything against their will, that's all that matters. Yes, the law is the law but bill C-36 is backwards in so many ways and just because a law is passed and registered on the books, it's between two consenting adults. It is gentlemen such as yourself that are actually doing a favor by seeing reputable and established ladies because we lost many of you fine gentlemen when this bill came into effect. Personally I have many great clients but many left the hobby for fear of a criminal record and didn't wait to stick around to see what would transpire in the early days of C-36. Perhaps leave your hobbying for when you travel and keep a safe distance when at home.

Freshly prepared tournedos from the butcher, with aspergus from a local grower, and maybe stoghannof pastas on the side...

congrats on the 9000 posts well done

TO stands for Time Out which existed when Cal operated the downstairs and the upstairs under different names. A few years ago he dropped the TO business and operates just under Executive Bath but uses rooms on both floors. When both operations existed there was a different group of ladies on each floor and a receptionist on each floor. I assume he also paid for 2 licenses to operate both. Others may have more detailed info.

Update, I still love massages but prefer, if they are offered, to have them at the end of the session. Oftentimes, clients run their fingers from the neck down, stop at my butt and then proceed to stick their fingers in places that don't belong, without asking.

In any commercial relationship, and I deliberately use the term relationship as opposed to transaction, people with positive reputations can generally be trusted! This provides the foundation for a safe and happy set of experiences. Good luck!!

Wow 9000! Congratulations on the milestone.

Yeah, you can just drop those anywhere.

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YES!!!! I love this! Absolutely love this post! I really like this because some people are not very nice, and have zero respect for other humans. Respectfulness and kindness 100, 100% of the time%! It's important to be the change we want to see in this world and community and to treat others in accordance with that too. We can't always be attracted to one another, but it sure helps if a client is clean and is a gentleman. I appreciate these types and am happy to see a male encourage other males on Lyla to be kind and respectful to women. In addition, I believe you need to be nominated for this post as you are being the change you want to see and demonstrated it here. Thanks so much for the good laugh too. It's men like you that make ladies like myself happy in their workplace(s) and headspaces. Cheers, and I nominate this post by someguy!

Yes. In my experience, the goodbye hug and kiss is the key to see if you had a good connection. Sometime, its difficult to judge whether the provider had a good time with you, unless she spends sometime with you at the door when you are on your way out.

A long overdue review (really difficult to write a review worthy enough)..... Did it make sense to drive nearly an hour form North Grenville to see someone who was retiring in November? The real question is why didn't I see her sooner? I wish her all the best - I have no doubts she'll be a total success no matter where her goals lead her. Ottawa may have lost a true treasure but I think I gained something even better.

Agreed; showing respect, being considerate (kind) and showing a genuine acknowledgment of the person you are seeing is a good recipe for a mutually enjoyable session.

Cool examples of some of Harry Martin's work.

I did a tineye search on her and it pulled out a model named Alexandra Wonderland. I doubted it was her but naive me decided it was a good idea to give her a shot after being promised she wasn't a fake. She felt like I was onto her and by the time I arrived at her hotel (which was about 5 minutes late) my phone was nearly dead. I asked her to give me the room number and I'd come up in 10 to give her a second to tidy up - because the phone was going to die I asked for the room number a second time to receive replies saying "no wait, just wait a second... etc." I told her my phone wouldn't make it longer than a few more minutes and sure enough, it died about 15 minutes after I was supposed to be in the hotel with her. 5 minutes after this (while my phone was dead) she said "come up". I feel like she thought I was onto her and when she had a good excuse to get out of servicing me she took it without question. Also as I'm not from the area, getting out of downtown without a GPS is a bit of a stressful event. It took me an hour to get to the west-end.

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It's almost Christmas. It's better to give then receive :)

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Personally I find it most convenient when a provider posts an ad on backpage (where I can find it easily) with the information that I generally want to know like services offered and donation. Alternately if there's a website linked to the BP ad that has that information that's also fairly convenient. I don't enjoy the hassle of having to contact someone to ask for rates and extras, I think it cheapens the overall experience for both parties involved. But maybe that's just me.

Available in SJ Only Hey Gents ! Im a little lady but im loads of fun ! Im an all natural fiery redhead with an appetite for excitement. Im 5'3 115 pounds. Long hair that almost touched my beautiful behind and gorgeous green eyes ;) PM for availability and contact info Ashley xoxxxox

I saw an Amy at that same number. And will now continue to follow the rules of this board.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-man-human-trafficking-government-id-1.3858016

I adore women in pantyhose/stockings. I don't have much experience in exploring my fetish but I would want to worship a well dressed woman!

Been keeping in touch with Mia since we first met. So I decided to see her for the first time as a independent. Booked yesterday for today. I came in to work looking forwards to spending time with her and expecting a pretty quiet time at work today. But with my luck, first thing I found out when I got to work, the computer system that I am responsible was down due to some changes made in another system that feeds data to our system. Everyone is in panic mode. Wasn't sure if I had to cancel my session with Mia. Soon we found the cause of the problem and I was able submit the job to run the databases again. This would take almost 5 hours, so I would be able to go ahead with my noon session. I headed out to walk to her condo as it was within reasonable walking distance from my work. Got there and was rung up. Entered her apartment and was instantly welcomed by a beautiful Mia who gave me a big hug and kiss. Closed the door said a few words and kissed some more. Kissing is based on chemistry, but we had shared some kisses during the previous session and are comfortable with each other. She noticed that I had lost a lot of weight and we chatted a bit about how I did it. It turns out that she is doing something similar. She started undressing me and I her as it was shower time. Shower time was a lot of fun as we made sure each other was squeaky clean. Back to the table we headed off to after we dried off.:) She began with a very nice firm back rub, then somebody slides. Then she asked me turn over. Now the fun begins where she massages the front a bit and then the legs with some teasing touches once in a while. she got the table for a while and we kissed and cuddled for a while. Then she began a nice long teasing session. She has gained a lot more experience since I last saw her. She has a lot of different techniques and positions that she likes to use. Keeps changing all the time. I never knew what to expect next. Some body slides and looking at her sexy oiled body when she was on top of me was such a turn on. I got to give her jello legs also. She looks so sexy and contented after that. Then she kissed me some more and continued with more teasing till an toe curling finish. Afterwards she cleaned me off and continued to massage me for a few more minutes till I came back down to earth :). We then took a cleanup shower and got dressed. A few more Hugs and kisses and chatted a bit more. We seem to have a lot in common and she said it was a turn-on to be able to chat about something that we found we had in common that not many people talk about. It was a great session with a very sexy and beautiful woman. Relieved some of the my stress and tension from the day. She enjoys being a indy and loves her job. Went back to work stress free. Once I got back to work, the rest of the day was long and very stressful. But I had a smile on my face while I tried to fix the system. At least I had a good time for an hour. I will be back again :)

where to begin.... 1) hey/hi/hello without a follow up of requesting an appointment 2) declining a shower when a man clearly needs one... 3)one thing I see ALL THE TIME, I am massaging a man who is laying on his stomach and there is plenty of lint between his butt cheeks!!!! It also smells like he hasn't brought his soapy hands there for months.. Worse yet, I had a client who left a (very large and noticeable) skid mark on my towel recently... gentlemen: you DO need to touch and wash your butt crack in the shower. 4) When the end of a session is near, or already there, and I, diplomatically, mention that we need to wrap up, and he says, "Oh! Do you have another client?" - would you ask this to any other professional? Your lawyer? Your RMT? Your piano teacher etc? No, you wouldn't. So why is it ok to ask your ma/sp? Whether or not I have another client is completely irrelevant - you have paid for X amount of time and that time is up. If I get labelled as a "clock watcher", so be it. I am VERY generous with my time to my regular clients who have demonstrated that they respect the time I am sharing with them. For the few gentlemen whom I share a mutually genuine connection with, this my way of giving back. My best regulars are never the ones who take advantage of me, nor my time in any way. I am a professional and will be treated as such.

I love to masterbate! 5x a day at least!

Im a 33 yr old female who has found the fine art of multiple orgasims only in the last 4 months or so, this being said i now masterbate daily as well as enjoy work more as play then work And i was scared of being 30 lol now im greatful

For me is the stigma that surrounds it. Although I have become rather outspoken about my profession, it is difficult to make new friends. I am fortunate now, as I have an incredible relationship, but before he came along I really did not like to date, was too tricky to have a double life, or to be honest to my date in fear he would use it against me if we fought, etc...so lack of intimacy tends to be there.

For me is the freedom I have. I have had other jobs, been self-employed in other facets, but this one I excel in:) I am able to be creative, be the " sensual giver" I am naturally. I care about my business, the industry and my clients! I have had a great day when I know I have boosted someone's self esteem, confidence and they leave feeling happy!

First-thank you Summer such a great thread:) I got into escorting because I wanted to do what some had accused me of doing,(which I wasn't at the time) because it was said to be wrong/taboo( I am a rebel) and I also wanted a quick way to earn some quick cash-at that time. Now I do it because it's fun, I truly enjoy the freedoms it has allowed me, the confidence it has taught me, the inner strength I have gained from it's ups and downs and I like dating without commitment and having great sex often;) It's also a good source of extra income. Win win.

Wow. These are two really hot girls. Probably two of the hottest masseuses in Ottawa. They answered the door in see-through lingerie and it was heaven from there. Nicole is blond and has amazing beautiful blue eyes. Madison is a beautiful brunette. Both and trim and fit. Madison had these blue outfit that was a a perfect fit. I could not keep my eyes off them as we started by undressing one by one. Lots of body rubbing and kissing necks and teasing. Then onto the massage show. The hard part is where to touch, kiss and rub. Beauty on both sides. Amazing. I didnt want to leave anyone out. I think for those that love massage in Ottawa they will be pleasantly surprised. Definitely plan to see them again.

Reputation takes time to build.. most people get into this business with no long term goals in mind (Thinking they will do it for a while and get out) and want to make the most money possible as quick as possible... and therefore building a reputation is often not even a thought. Cerb is more for the seasoned ladies and the ladies who really like working in this business. Ladies who feel that reputation is important and want to build a safe long term business (and remain ethical and have integrity). This is where reputation counts. This is something that is often needed to be learned and many of the ladies jump into this business with no goals but find they like the business and choose to stay... so the ladies who try to short cut and spam market may realize that they do not need to do this (With the help of cerb and sites like escorts-canada.com) .... so lets not be too hard on them... Lets show them that a better alternative exists, lead by example... and show them that the effort is well worth it.