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Make love not war, because condoms are less expensive then bombs..:D Doesn't work that well in english but in French... Faites l'amour pas la guerre, parce que les condoms coutent moins cher que les armes nucléaires

This thread has bothered me on so many levels. As someone who has seen Cleo several times now I can safely say that any man with even an ounce of taste and intelligence should count himself lucky to spend even a brief amount of time with her. OP, I'm not implying you don't have an ounce of taste or intelligence, as you did say you had intended to see her. But even if your comments were not intended as a put down, and even if WIT's rationalizations for your comments are true....saying "I apologize you misunderstood my comments" is not a sincere apology in my books, you're basically saying "I'm sorry you're too dumb to understand proper "reading comprehension" ". .....Reading comprehension has nothing to do with it, if you did not mean it to sound how it did, then it's plain and simply a poor choice of words on your part. The mature thing to do once you saw your comments were being misconstrued as hurtful (if in fact they were misconstrued) would have been to at the very least edit your post and send Cleo a PM apologizing SINCERELY, instead of going on and on trying to defend a clear case of foot-in-mouth and putting down people's "reading comprehension". I can't understand why it is so hard for some people to simply admit and apologize properly when they've so clearly stuck their foot in their mouth. I should know, my foot spends at least 50% of it's time in my mouth and I'm constantly apologizing for it :p And you're "generalizations" about the other men on here are simply offensive....I'm not married, not divorced, not 45, don't have kids. I'm in my early thirties, single, and fairly attractive and even I found your "generalizations" offensive. We're not here because we're "hard up" or desperate. We're in this hobby because we choose to be. Right now I'm enjoying being single and don't want to have to deal with all the drama that comes along with the dating scene, but still like, and want, sex. Everyone has their reasons for being here, and I think desperation is right at the bottom of the list of those reasons.

What I am about to say is not to critisize anyone in particular but we are selling a service and we are selling intimacy. These questions are bound to come up and at times you cannot sugarcoat it. Sometimes guys want to know and other than being really vulgar, how is someone supposed to carefully choose their words? What may be considered disrespectful to one person may not to be to another person. We have the choice to respond or not. For every guy that is rude, there are 10 other guys that will be respectful. These so called acronyms are ones that have been established in the business over time and I'd rather have them ask me these type of codes words than using particularily vulgar words which is really the only other route to take. I agree that there are ways to ask certain things and at the end of the day guys are just asking a question. And even though we may not want to be reduced to menus and body parts, if they are looking for a particular type of service, they are entitled to ask. We are selling intimate acts whether we like to think of it that way or not. There will be guys who will be disrespectful but for the most part they are in the minority. Perhaps I am a seasoned SP who knows the score and from day one if I couldn't take the heat, I would have gotten out of the kitchen. I used to be sensitive to certain things but now I let most of it roll of my back. All of it comes with the territory in this business, roll with the punches and take the good with the bad. I've got better things to worry about.

One of my favourite, long-standing clients died recently. I wrote about that, here. I will attend the funeral because he was well-known in Vancouver. The funeral will be held in a church; many people are expected to attend. The question about whether it's okay for a paid companion to go to a client's funeral has come up before, but it's been a couple of years since we had that discussion. In case it might be useful, helpful or reassuring to anyone on the board, I'm re-opening the topic. I apologize in advance for the length of this post! In the other part of my life, some time ago, I seriously considered becoming a funeral director because, for various reasons, I'd worked closely with quite a few funeral homes. I also used to do volunteer work with a hospice and ve attended many dozens of funerals over the last 20 years or so. I'm writing from that experience. When someone dies, the very best, and very worst, aspects of their relationships with family and friends are likely to be in the spotlight. Families always want to be seen as normal, unremarkable, with no secrets or scandals to be noticed. Unfortunately, most families are not so ordinary. Everyone has secrets and some of them may not go to the grave with us despite our best efforts to conceal them. You can always call the funeral home and ask how many people they're expecting to attend the service. They'll tell you if it's just going to be a small, private family service, or if they're expecting a couple of hundred people. Funeral homes are asked this very question several times a day. Estranged family members, former spouses and other people who have had a difficult relationship with the deceased, or with members of his/her family, often call the funeral home and ask this question. There's no need to feel conspicuous or awkward for asking! Most funeral directors take seriously their value as an intermediary between the bereaved family and others. Unless the deceased person is quite elderly, or has been shut-in for a long, long time, or had a disability that seriously restricted their ability to be out in the world, funeral services often have a wide variety of people attending. They don't all know each other. Many people will be there who may hardly know the deceased, but have accompanied their spouse or a friend who did know him/her. There is often a "viewing" or a gathering before the actual funeral. Depending on who the deceased person was, how long they've lived in their community and how well-known they were, there may be a couple of these gatherings. One may be held the evening before the funeral, for example, or a couple of hours before the funeral itself. These gatherings take the place of wakes which were commonly held many years ago. They tend to be small and quiet. People who have known the deceased person have an opportunity to go to the funeral home, or in some cases, the church, view the body and spend a few moments in quiet reflection. Family members are usually present at these viewings. Many people who knew the deceased person very well are likely to attend. There may be food and drinks available. People will have informal conversations about the deceased person, sharing memories and talking about how he or she affected their lives. It is very difficult to be inconspicuous at one of these gatherings, and so, as a paid companion, I would never attend. My presence is only likely to raise questions for the family and friends; that would be a violation of confidentiality. If, however, the deceased person is very famous, or a head of state or, say, a current or former provincial premier, and there is a large public viewing where potentially hundreds of people may attend to pay their respects, I would probably be one of the people in the crowd. If the service is being held in a church, there will usually be a lot of people there. If the whole service is being held at the graveside, fewer people will attend. Personally, I would not attend a graveside funeral for a client because those awkward scenes in movies where someone unexpectedly shows up at the graveside service are, sadly, fairly realistic. I have been at several graveside services where someone unexpected arrived; it would not be appropriate for me to cause consternation or worry for the family by attending this more private kind of memorial. On the day of the funeral, if the deceased died suddenly and unexpectedly, or if their death was violent, it would be unusual for members of the family to be greeting people at the door of the funeral home or church when people arrive. If the deceased had been ill for a long time and was on good terms with his/her family, it's more likely that family members will be greeting people when they arrive. You might need to make a judgment call about this, but it would be unusual for anyone greeting folks as they arrive to ask questions about why someone is there. There's usually a guest book available for signing. I wouldn't sign it, if I was at a funeral for a client. There's often a gathering after the service, too. I wouldn't attend because this is another time when questions about how someone knows the deceased would be most likely to be asked. I also wouldn't go to the burial if it's happening after the service. Again, most of the people who attend the service won't go to the graveyard, so there's nothing conspicuous about staying away. Going, however, could raise questions. But if there will be more than about 80 people at the funeral, to arrive at the funeral home or church only a couple of minutes before the service starts, to sit near the back of the chapel or church and to leave when it's over, shouldn't be a problem. Other people will do the same thing for different reasons. When I attend my client's funeral, I will dress inconspicuously. I will not wear all black, though I may wear a black dress with a coloured jacket over it. I do not want to appear to be in grief or significantly mourning my friend because I do not want to call attention to myself. I may sign the guest book if it there are more than about 200 people at the funeral. Otherwise, I won't. If I do sign it, I will sign it in my own name. Samantha will not be at the service. If anyone asks me how I knew the man who died, I will give a vague answer along the lines of having worked with him on a project a few years ago. I may say that he gave me some good advice that has made a lot of difference in my life and so I wanted to pay my respects. It's important to recognize that by not saying anything or by declining to answer the question,I draw more attention than if I give this kind of bland reply. I have to take seriously the fact that I do not know this man's family and friends and that I am an attractive woman who is at the funeral by myself. Unfortunately, people being as they are, there is often a group of people hoping, secretly or not so secretly, that something exciting or titillating may be revealed about the deceased. I do not want to give anyone the impression that I may have been one of the man's secrets. I can't ask my partner to attend the funeral with me because, of course, he doesn't know that this man was a client of mine. I'm sure that the common-sense value of much of what I've written, here, is evident. More than anything, I hope that everyone, particularly my sister companions, will simply take the time to think things through. The loss of a client through death is a serious and important event. We are all entitled to our sorrow and to find appropriate ways to mark their passing.

I'm not 45, I'm 50, do you think I'm hard up, just wanting to get some...for that matter do you think of the guys here are hard up. Your comments are insulting, not just to me and other guys fitting your profile, by extension, insulting to any ladies we have seen. Most of us that see ladies are respectful and are gentlemanly about it to the ladies. You aren't better than the rest of the guys on this board, and the ladies, well frankly they aren't hard up enough to put up with a jerk like you It takes a lot to piss me off this much, congratulations, you pissed me off RG

This song always makes me smile and feel great about life in general And the Joey Ramone version also makes me smile, fittingly enough one of the last songs he ever recorded, or might even be the last one. And because I think no matter our differences we all have this in common:

I'm honestly not that hard up.... I can be selective and I will be. :confused0024: Sorry.

I honestly believe that this is the heart of the matter for the Conservatives. The rhetoric surrounding human trafficking is merely a smoke screen being used to advance their agenda. I feel we as a community need to take stock of the current political climate and what impending legislation will mean for the future of the sex trade in this country. My biggest fears at present concern the possibility of Joy Smith's proposed private member's bill being made into law, and the subsequent possibility of clients such as myself being charged. Not a very appealing prospect in the least. Secondly, how does one reconcile these developments with the constitutional challenge presently before the courts? If new laws are passed making the purchasing and/or the sale of sex illegal in Canada, then even a ruling upholding Himmel's decision will be rendered null and void. Is there any recourse here?

For what it's worth, I have a Inuit client who refers to my pussy as a the "c" word. I have been around long enough to understand that in his culture, this is a perfectly acceptable word to use and I am not in the least bit offended by him using it during our encounters. He never used the word in our initial discussions, only in the heat of the moment. I could not ask for a sweeter and nicer client. It's like Nicolette said, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Daty versus Digits is not offensive to me. Can I suck your pussy or stick my fingers up your snatch, could be, I suppose. I could go on, but I the censor would certain block out what I would write. But then again, I'm like Julia, and love dirty talk. So maybe my vulgar threshold is higher. It's not the words being said, it's all in the delivery and the context. That's the important thing to remember. I know when someone is being playful or just downright rude. My last word on this thread.

First time rating and I am not a writer. Met with Layla a couple of days ago and I had a really great time, I asked her if I could recommend her and she said just so long as it is not graphic. Not having any reviews or facial pics to go on when I first met her I was pleasantly surprised by how beautiful she is, she really has nice dark eyes. She is young but is acts mature and is very polite and discreet. I saw her as a out call and she was prompt and dressed appropriately. Not to be too graphic but her body was toned, and accurate to the photos and the description on the adds. The view from the back was great. After we had our fun time she was great to talk to, I loved her stories and she really put me at ease. She doesn't watch the clock and was a pleasure to be with. The Agency was really easy to deal with and very accommodating. Layla is definitely on the list of Ladies I would like to meet again.

Does anyone know of a decent hotel in the Ottawa south or west end that offers short term or 1/2 day room rental rates along with the possibiity of an earlier check in time, say from 11am on?

when i first joined Cerb, my main reason was get my name out there, looking for different ways to advertise, and find new clients. Now i look at cerb as more of a social group. I talk to people on here, both male and female, not looking for compensation, but to help others, voice my opinion, teach, and learn from others The SP's on here may have more experience than my, and they've helped a lot both through treads, and pm's, as well as the gentlemen have been very supportive, and give me great insight through both as well What is your main purpose on CERB in is to gain advice? be apart of a well respected community with people who wil actually listen to what you say? Is it for the sole purpose of gaining clients/ Service providers? Or is it just a hobby? Do you like reading/responding to the posts? Ive noticed alot of people on CERB do not like to bullshit, they say what they mean, and stick by it, which is great, and which is why i love this site so much. Which leads me to my other question, of part of CERB you like the most? Are you into the jokes? The seriousness? Do you like to make your opinion known? or just read others thoughts? I love to debate, make my thoughts known, i love to voice my opinions, even if others dont agree, i love to hear other peoples thoughts and ideas about this business and everything else, im not to into the start a sentence game, alothough i like the jokes. So in general, everyone is so complex, and it takes alot of both like-minded, and controversial people to make a site great. Which is exactly what not only this site, but life is made up of. just a few thoughts ive had on my mind

http://www.redtube.com/39907 Similar to a Nuru Massage Set Up but with Soap.

A lady in my heart. Nothing more awesome than this...

Morning sex afternoon sex evening sex underneath the moon sex oral sex surprise sex in the shower sex on the beach sex on the balcony

I REALLY LIKE Isa because she is the triple threat! Physically Beautiful, Big Heart, and Smart Mind. Mmm Cub

Like RG, I am in a situation where my friends are my friends, regardless of what they do. So... when the time comes, you are invited to my funeral. Bring money for my kids, I spent all of mine on SPs.

I like old dog because he always makes me laugh...and i love to laugh.

I love Sky because she is level headed, mature, intelligent and oh, so sexy!

I can't see any reason not to attend the service in a discrete way. As ottawaadventurer said, this is for the living and if you've developed a close personal bond with the client, then it's a way for you to show respect and gain closure for yourself. This is a business, but we all are human and it's unavoidable that we don't occasionally develop real bonds with each other.

There are soooo many great Canadian bands out there, who are for the most-part unheard of. It's unfortunate because there are some incredible bands making really great music. My favourites are: The Weakerthans (my all-time favourite band) Constantines Hey Rosetta! Slowcoaster City and Colour Propaghandi Tegan and Sara

First, and I've said this before, there is no lady that I'm embarrassed or ashamed of seeing, nor would it bother me if I was seen in public with her. That said, if (well when) I die, and there is a lady that she and I have had a extra special interpersonal relationship, beyond the simple SP/Client relationship, and she would like to attend the funeral (or if more discrete, the visitation) it wouldn't bother me (if that makes sense under the circumstances). Anyone asks, just introduce yourself as a friend, no need that details have to be given. But first and formost, do what makes you comfortable. If a private visit to the grave is what would be most comfortable, do that. If no vist, no attending the service etc at all, do that. It doesn't take away or minimize the times you had together, which were real, and mutually beneficial on more than just the simple SP/Client level, and at the end of the day, that was far more important to the two of you. Connections like that don't happen everyday, cherrish those memories. Some quick thoughts RG

Great list Angela. Of late, I've been listening to a lot of Metric. Not everyone's cup of tea, but great driving music.

The common theme - time. Time may not necessarily heal a broken heart, but it will certainly distance you from the cause of your hurt, giving you the time to make changes. I found at the end of my marriage that "time" was bittersweet. I used it to rediscover the man that I was and the man I was to become and to heal the damage that was foisted upon me. I am sure that she did the same with her time. I think that the most bitter part was thinking of the time lost and the time imagined to come. Seeing her during the time of healing was painful - it only caused wounds to re-open but then again, those wounds will be less vulnerable, given time. Best advice? Use the time that used to be shared and spend it on becoming "you" again. We temper ourselves to fit each other's needs; now you can recapture the man that you were - the one that she fell in love with. She may never be the "one" again - but you will be better for having loved her and better still for being prepared for the next one. Whether it happens now or in a week, a month, a year or even years down the road, you will still gain by truly being the person you were destined to become.

Negativity (n) -characterized by habitual skepticism and a disagreeable tendency to deny or oppose or resist suggestions or commands. While I do agree that the board has a tendency to ebb and flow like the tides, negativity may have positive outcomes. It's like civil disobedience. There are times when you have to stand up and say enough is enough. "I don't like (fill in the blank)." Sometimes the effect is immediate. The corporate or community thought process is challenged because it was allowed to stagnate and the unacceptable becomes acceptable. When someones stands up and says "this is stupid/wrong/offensive" we all have a tendency of stepping forward to either defend the policy/rule/attitude or we change. Nothing wrong with that at all. Healthy, meaningful and open discussions are what we are all about. I do understand your point though. It never just rains, it pours. We see protest affecting change and we step up on our own soap box to see if we can get our mandate or opinion expressed. It's like an exponential paradigm - everyone wants their theory tested and proven. Back to your point. We do need positivity as an offset. It's the yin to the yang, the fig to the newton. You need it to make sure that we aren't all serious ALL THE TIME. Lighter threads are like having sex after a good fight; you can battle like cats and dogs but in the end, those same combatants can kiss and make up and be all the stronger. So kudos to you my friend. I applaud your efforts. But we are not having sex. With each other. EVER.

I have a feeling that campgrounds in Canada would return the same results if you tried to use their WiFi. It all comes down to how deep an organization feels it needs to go to ensure that a "family" atmosphere is maintained. I do know how ya feel though... I was at the cottage last week and I could not wait to get back to my CERBies!!!

And what a great way to cool off...

When I first came to cerb, it was a review/message board that focused a bit more on Ottawa than the other boards although terb was popular as well. At first, things were a bit slow and there were a lot of shills or anti-shills (posters who were just knocking other ladies or agencies). Its now turned into a great resource, but I have to admit I tend to cross reference the reviews/recommendations with the other boards for a reality check. The general discussion board is (for the most part ... smile) very enjoyable and the board administrators have done a fantastic job of making this a very user-friendly place. And the posters here have been saint-like in sharing very valuable information.

:p

I met Bridgette in Person :-). I decided to treat myself this weekend because of the past work related stressful week (every short week is like that lol) and go for a combo (strip bar followed by a date with an escort). So, I booked my date yesterday for 6:00 pm and started my great to be afternoon with Barbs and it started like a LION!!!. As I entered the bar, my very favorite girl (lovely Kitty) whom I hadn't seen for a long while was on the stage and she smiled and said hi. We were both clearly very happy. And while I was totally absorbed in her beauty then I noticed another beauty angel is walking just by me and we smiled at each other and she asked me if I would like a company (are you kidding lol!!!!!!. Is the pope catholic lol?). She introduced herself as Bridgette!!! Ah so you are Bridgette??:icon_eek:. What a nice surprise. And what a beauty!!! Bridgette: I am likely preaching to the converters for those lucky enough to have met her but those who aren't (that lucky yet) she is a beauty. Big blue eyes, smiling cute face, slender tall body, soft pale skin, and BEAUTIFUL SEXY bum. I introduce myself too but We only talked for a few minutes as I wanted her in the CR lol. The CR dances was great too as I got the chance to see close and contact dance with the beautiful skin and bum. Her bum very deservedly belongs to the best bums thread (Thanks Cato for starting that great thread!!). It is really among the best. Her bum is the work of art. There must be a God lol!!. Kitty: Once dancers with lovely Bridgette was over, I went back to my seat and waiting for another lovely lady, Kitty. She was in the CR with another. I feared that I may miss her as I had to head back to home for my 6:00 pm date. Thanks God, Kitty came back out of CR after 5:00 and walked straight to me while out of my good luck Bridgette was on the stage, double joy lol :-). We hugged and kissed and we both watched and totally absorbed in Bridgette Dances. Kitty is such a beautiful person inside out. I know this young lady for many years and she gets cuter every year. Still looking like a teenager and retained her very kind friendly personality. I head to CR with her and she told me she may be retiring soon:icon_sad: (she will be joining my other lovely friends at Barbs like Mary Jane, Jessica and Drew.......all retired) and it was so hard to come out of the CR knowing that I may not see her again. She is now dancing only one day per month at Barbs. Regretfully it was a quiet afternoon. I kept my ears open for the names I have read in this thread like Sonia, Ariel, Scarlett, Crystal, Jade, Cherry no such luck :icon_sad:. But as they say, there is always a next time and I am super happy that I was lucky enough to have met Bridgette and seen Kitty but it was close to 6:00 pm and I had to rush back for my date. My review of the young lady (my well reviewed date, The Arabian Princess, Layla from Bella Escorts) will come soon in the recommendation thread.

I have had someone whom I've been seeing for years and thier health was very bad and we mainly spent quailty time to together because of his heart condition, I had attended social functions and had met some of his family and friends. We of course said we met in the "office". During his final days he requested me to be at the hospital and spend some time with him and I of course did, there was a strong bond and frienship there. The last day we spoke he asked me to attend the funeral, when the time came. I honoured his wishes and when I have met some of the people in his life it was not an issue for me and of course I was not known as "Lexy" to him or others. For him this was a special situation and case. I don't know if I would attend someones funeral who I did not know as well as him. That would be a hard decision to make, if I was asked and they only knew me as "Lexy". I doubt I would attend but after the burial, I would visit the grave site if they had one and place flowers and say my good bye then.

Aaaah! Soapy massage. Jergens on, Jergens off. Posted via Mobile Device

Didn't you know we all own one of these?

When I was younger, I thought I was in love then another boy would come along and I was in love with him, and so on.. I thought, I thought..and when I finally found love, I knew and forgot(them) Maybe you will never fully get over her and reflect back to her now and then for years to come, all we can do is learn and not give up. "A man reserves his true and deepest love not for the species of woman in whose company he finds himself electrified and enkindled, but for that one in whose company he may feel tenderly drowsy. " George Jean Nathan" Good luck and I think you are doing a fine job getting over her, here on Cerb, there are lovely ladies that will help you forget all your troubles. :)

no more drama. let's have sex and laugh at this video or awwww http://video.ca.msn.com/watch/video/whale-enjoys-mariachi-band/1gl2bpr1c

First off, to clarify: I do not care about threads discussing various services, I do not care what language you use to describe body parts or services. My post was kind of a garbled rant; chalk it up to posting at 4am. What I found incredibly offensive were various posters brushing off Erin's concerns by saying she is "too sensitive." She's an adult who expressed her opinion. This is the sense of entitlement I am referring to; that since you disagree with her, it's ok to be condescending and dismissive. And to WIT, I feel that referring to this thread and threads like it as "client-bashing" is sensationalism at best. Some of the things I brought up were totally off-topic and I got a bit carried away, and I apologize for that--I certainly believe that jerkoff clients are in the minority, but some of them are also CERB posters. So yes, I know that some of them are, in fact, reading my rantings. I'd love to find a happy medium where the women are celebrated as human beings and not as objects (and I am not saying that that any of you do it intentionally or maliciously) and clients can still enjoy themselves.

I am confused by this because you said in your original post: So when I wake up with my morning coffee, log into to read the General Discussion area and see thread titles of "Daty vs Digits." "Greek or no Greek", etc. It really makes me question things here and a few have almost made me spit of my coffee on a few occasions. Could it be when you actually read the post (not just the title), you realized it wasn't offensive to you at all. Sometimes there is just no other way to call something other than what it is. Period. And as service providers (in your case MA), we need not be so squeamish about words..or the reason why we are here. Let's get real folks. No matter how you want to sugar coat it, it's not just about dinner dates, relaxing massage and cuddling - we are in the business of selling sex, period! And this is an escort review board, and the tamest, most respectful one you will find probably find on the planet. I worked in the corporate world, in offices for over 25 years and can tell you disrespect comes in many forms and I have experienced less of it here on CERB than I ever did working with rude women and men who I had to face day in and day out. Now days, if I don't like the cut of someone's jib, I don't have to see them or read or respond to their posts!! Erin, I appreciate the point you were trying to get across, but take it from someone who has been in the business since the mid 90s, at the end of the day, I think we have a pretty good community here. And I would say the majority of the members on this board behave quite respectfully. The other minority few, bear no mind to. Oh, and one more thing that is pretty obvious: you can't legislate common sense or manners no matter how right you may be

Well, there's certainly been a lot of activity hereabouts recently :) A few things to say... Well, welcome to the Internet. You can never predict what will happen to anything here. We'll probably all be on The National tomorrow. Well, each to their own. I don't particularly enjoy the blow-by-blow accounts of what someone did in what positions and how many orgasms they (think they) gave the lady either, but those bits are easy enough to skim over while reading, and I daresay other folks like them. The important message of a reco - "I saw X, and had a good time" is what matters, and that invariably gets through. What I would like to say, though, is that it was the recos that brought me here in the first place - and although I can't speak for anyone else, I suspect I'm not the only one to whom this applies. I started off looking at the recos while trying to pluck up the courage to actually go and see someone, and then at some point began reading the other forums too, and then contributing occasionally, and... well, here we are! The point is that without the recos I probably wouldn't be here in the first place. You may or may not consider this a good thing :) As for the complaints from various people about various threads not being to their liking... seriously, folks, get over it. The world is not always going to arrange itself to your liking, even a relatively friendly corner of it like CERB, and I don't believe that complaining makes friends or influences people. As a more constructive suggestion, perhaps those people who don't like certain styles of thread could attempt to redress the balance by starting more threads of the sort that they approve of, or contributing more to the threads they like? You never know, you might manage to get other people to join in too... On the DATY vs digits thread, which was explicitly complained about: if that thread means that a single SP somewhere doesn't get her cervix bruised and her vagina scraped by an over-enthusiastic but ignorant client, I think it'll have been well worth it. Knowledge is good. The squeamish are free to look away. But really, it'd be nice if people would contemplate the consequences of ignorance before getting too offended by someone asking a well-meant question in one of the few places anywhere where they might get a sensible answer from a knowledgeable person. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of my complaining about other people complaining, but I don't see any way around it. Bait... taken. See what complaining gets you? :)

I agree with fortunateone: Tania was the kind of sex worker who gives most of us a very bad name. And it's not an accident that she has a book out that she wants to promote. I also find it telling that she believes that nearly all of the women she pimped out were drug addicts. I don't believe it, to begin with, but if it's true, it says more about her and what she was willing to do to make money for her own purposes than it does about anything else. I also take offense against her sob-story about being a poor woman who was battling for the custody of her children, all the way to the SCC, but who says she managed, on the way, to become a wealthy entrepreneur and madam, managing the work and skimming off the incomes of up to 500 women. I came into this business because I was battling for the custody of my children, too. Sex work made it possible to pay the bills and look after my kids. If I'd had the skills, the insights and above all the time to become a high-flying madam, well, I sure wouldn't be biting the hands of those who made it possible for me to do what I needed to do to care for my children. That she says that she found Jesus and has repented of her old life also doesn't wash with me. She's still caught up in the sex trade, but from a different angle. And I don't think that Jesus aimed to make a lot of women unemployed and unemployable, either. He was more likely to have dinner with them and a lot of other social outcasts, like tax collectors and political insurgents. Having ended that little rant, I want to point out that there are things we can do. We can attend these meetings and ask questions. We can also write letters to the editors of our local papers, websites, radio stations, etc., and raise a few points. Canada already has laws against human trafficking. What's wrong with them? Why do we need new laws? How many victims of human trafficking is she talking about? Where does she get her data? The simple fact is that there is no straightforward way to count migrant and/or trafficked workers, anywhere. They don't report in to some agency or register with employment services organizations. How does she distinguish between trafficked labour and migrant labour? What concern can she demonstrate for people who are forced to travel to other countries, against their will, to work as farm labourers, construction labourers and domestic labourers? Is she really supporting those who are trying to prevent immigration of all kinds, or who are migrant workers who come to North America to work as undocumented labourers? Prohibitionists frequently see all women migrants as sexually vulnerable above all other considerations (such as needing to earn money to support family members in their countries of origin). They lump women and children together as though women were children with no agency or decision-making authority. They characterize women as incapable of initiating migration or as incapable of making a free choice to do sex work rather than the kinds of menial, underpaid jobs ordinarily available to undocumented, illegal immigrants. Is she branding all women who migrate to Canada as trafficked prostitutes? Some migrants come here and decide to work in the sex trade instead of other kinds of work. Is she opposed to their migration, or just prostitution? Many women resist being "rescued" from prostitution. How does she account for this? If her concern is for women who engage in street prostitution, how does she account for the preponderance of substance addiction and mental illness found among SWs? What steps is she taking to campaign against the illicit drug trade? In what ways does she advocate for everyone's immediate access to mental health services? In what ways is she pressuring local, provincial and federal governments and law enforcement agencies to uphold the laws we already have against trafficking and pimping? How does she hope to increase the number of charges and convictions for these crimes? What plans does she suggest for the women whom she is attempting to put out of work? How will she ensure that they are able to earn a liveable income, live in safe conditions and retain custody of their children?

It may be worth noting that Tania wrote a book, and no doubt would like sell more copies. Also she ran illegal brothels, illegal agencies, out of apartment/condos, and probably found herself afoul of the law. She also gained a reputation on review boards for getting banned (self promotions/shilling/fake reviews/multiple handles), then creating new handles over and over to do it again. She spent a great deal of money on photos, advertising, location, etc, then in recruiting workers. I have a hard time seeing her as someone totally focused on paying legal fees in custody cases, if she was spending that much on self promotion, that could have been spent elsewhere. She also used face pics, not exactly the M.O. of someone who is desperately seeking custody, imo, as that sort of sp would be far less likely to expose herself that way. She also was revealed to posting w4w ads on casual encounters CL to seek out women that she would then talk into the business. She also managed to hire a 16 or 17 year old girl in her micros. I mean, as a predator and manipulator, she's quite infamous. At the end of the day, I think her role as former sex worker/abolitionist is another master plan of manipulation to take advantage of yet another group of people.

Bridgette Dances, new pics!!! (Thank you, Bridgette) And a slightly older pic. Delectable, eh?

With her permission... The Lovely Dorinda

To begin, it is clear to me that, as clients, we have no idea what it is like to be a woman, and much less so a paid companion. However, one of the best things about this board is an opportunity for a man to get a glimpse into that world. CERB is a world where women are being open about both the positive and negative aspects of the business, both sexes are open about their sexuality and preferences and the community as a whole is in a constant state of learning. I know that I learn something new every time I log on. Now obviously, as clients, we don't see a lot of the behind the scenes bullshit that you women have to put up with. We only get small glances how you are being treated in private messages, emails and behind closed doors by other men, be they lurkers, non-members of CERB or active participants. It is my feeling that the majority of the threads listed as being offensive or objectifying are started by men who are genuinely curious about a particular topic and trying to learn more information to improve their own behaviour and performance when with women. And at the end of the day, if the men on this board are learning why certain women don't like certain activities, and how they should act when with a woman, are they not learning to be respectful? By learning to communicate their own sexual desires and preferences, isn't it more likely that a man can have open and honest sexual communication with a woman, ensuring a better session for both parties? It seems to me that this is a clear example of men attempting to be respectful of the women's wishes and learning to be better lovers and better men as a result. I hope that CERB remains a place where we all continue to learn more about each other's sexuality as this is no doubt a good thing in the long run for everyone involved. Lastly, it is important to remember that language is extremely powerful. The way we choose our words reflects a lot about our personalities. However, different words have different connotations to each individual and there may be specific words that trigger negative connotations for one person and positive connotations for another. I think that it is extremely hard to be open about your sexuality without using words that are going to offend some people. As such, I think we must be tolerant and empathetic towards the language used by both men and women in this forum, while making an effort not to be purposefully offensive.

Lots of guys and maybe some girls may hate this post, but here goes.... I used to browse CERB a lot, not because of all the wonderful women, but the boards had some intelligent, insightful conversations about meaningful things. It gave me insight about perspectives that I wouldn't have thought of, educated me about issues that I didn't know too much about, and sometimes even just was a thread for a nice laugh. Lately though, to be honest, people may hate this, but I think a lot of the threads here are $%#$. I'm talking about threads such as the Best Bums on the Planet, DATY vs DIGITS, How to get extras in a strip club, Red Head Appreciation Group, etc. I think they involve very little thought, and are treating the women here like they are on a lesser level. It's like they are judges on American Idol, and the women are contestants. I think the people think just because they have the freedom to write or post whatever they want, they have the power to nitpick on every single little negative thing about the girls. They might not think they are doing it with these threads, but let's be real, they are. How would the guys like if they were put on a stage? Spotlight shining right on them. I'm sure anybody put on that stage with the spotlight right on them, with a judge, judging them would find numerous negatives. I just don't think it's right. I think they are shallow. To be honest, I am sad that all these threads exist. Sure I don't have to look at them and I don't. But it saddens me that a majority of the threads when I open up the general discussion are exactly like that. I don't even look at the reco's to be honest. To be brutally honest, I think they're $hit. These girls aren't like take-out or delivery. You just can't pick out all the items on a plate and expect to get it from a girl. Every experience should be unique, and to be honest, when choosing a girl, it isn't because somebody writes they give expletive expletive expletive sloppy hot wet bare back blowjob, I'll choose her because I find a connection thru PM's, e-mails, whatever. These girls aren't just menu items, or can be replicated. They are unique, and each session is unique. Just because situation A happens with billy bob, doesn't mean situation A will happen with Willy Wonka. Each session is unique, and I'm glad it's that way. These women aren't robotic, they are real human beings. I wish guys started treating them that way. Sure, you have the freedom to write whatever you want. But whatever happened to simple common courtesy and respect?

I don't quite get it. So this is about vulgarity in the usage of words on cerb? Granted, some of the terminology isn't great, but who cares? We're adults here and if you dislike a thread title, do not click on it, do not read the posts within and certainly do not partake in the discussion. This place is about freedom. Freedom of expression (mostly) and sexual freedom. We're all here because we want to be. No one is forcing us. But keep in mind what type of board this is. It is a board to freely discuss anything and everything to do with sex, which is why we're all here! I prefer to keep things classy, and I don't use raunchy terminology or expressions, because it doesn't accurately reflect my personality. I'm confident that comes through by my not answering to certain threads. That's all I do. I don't waste precious energy getting all riled up about what someone across the country decided to start a thread on. It's fine that you find some threads offensive, but I think you need to grow a thicker skin and remember where you are. Sex can be respectful, but it can also be dirty, sweaty, raunchy and nasty. Which is ok too!

Speaking from my own standpoint, I have fairly small breasts ("B"s) and they are very sensitive. I have always been fond of a light touch in general (kissing, caressing, licking, etc) but especially on my breasts. I had one ex-boyfriend when I was younger who bit my nipples and I almost sent him flying across the room trying to get him off me. I have found, though, that too much nipple/breast play can cause it to go from pleasurable to painful if the man is not careful, even if he is using a light touch or soft licking/kissing. Myself, I like it best when the man plays with them for a few minutes, then goes somewhere else with his tongue/hands to give them a bit of a break, then comes back to them. It seems to really build tension and anticipation, and allows me to enjoy the sensations for a lot longer. Most likely, communication is key as with any sexual practice, and usually you can tell from her bodily cues anyway. I know myself, when I am into it, I am relaxed, I arch my back, I will pull his face into my breasts, etc. When it starts to hurt I will stop and move my body to try and move his mouth away from my chest. Sometimes I will pull him up to kiss me or something along those lines, or sometimes I just get quieter than usual (I'm pretty vocal).

I am a big beach volleyball fan but I am also a Beautiful Bum Fan :) so these pics definately turned me on instantly !! :dncdick: Apparently I must like wedgies too ...on women of course ;)

Things I really like! Spanking: lalalalala, what? Naughty girls need their spankings! Kissing: I have to say I'm a REALLY big fan of light kisses which I really think are a lost art in a world where hard and deep and fast are considered what's best. Also alternating between dfk and pulling back to gentle kisses is SOOO hot. Anal fingering: I love making something that is so often looked at as the preparation before the main event into something mind blowing. Having my wrists held down :) Always gives a little jolt of fire! Having a guy zip, button, whatever me back up. Thermometer play Being given good direction/feedback Having the sensitive spot between my shoulder blades kissed/touched Having my partner be dominant. Doesn't have to be rough or physical but that magnetism and domineering quality that gets me doing whatever you say Having a guy just lay back and let me play/explore Wearing garters and having my panties pulled down around my thighs while doing it doggy style or during anal play.