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Changing sheets and redoing our makeup is a very small part of our work. Sex work is also emotional labour. Spending 2 hours with one gentleman can be a lot more emotionally draining than spending an hour each with 2 gentlemen. Chemistry would play a huge role here.

I think the issue here is that there are a number of ladies with different styles and interests and we do not all have the same business model. I am contacted at least once a day with someone asking for my "one hour rate" to which I constantly need to reiterate that I don't offer one hour dates as they are very different in nature than longer dates. When someone advertises 15min, 30min or 45min dates you can be sure that the lady is advertising a sexual service meaning the focus of the encounter is very specifically the sexual act. When ladies advertise longer dates and services as their main offering they are generally focused on the chemistry, the connection and more of a date feel. These are two very different types of services and very few ladies can effectively offer both as many ladies have said longer dates can be very emotionally exhausting and shorter dates can be very physically exhausting. In your post you highlight that you are looking for the longer date, the connection which in general will not be established in a date of less than one hour (and often 2hrs or more) so I'd guess you are not in the target market for the ladies that prefer to offer shorter dates. There are different markets for the various types of encounters and it's very important to seek out those that provide the type of experience you are seeking, otherwise you are likely to be disappointed with the outcome of your date. So I don't single out another lady I'll use myself as an example, please bear with me as I don't have much experience with the shorter date. I always advertise 2hrs or more, I do have discounted rates for multiple hours, my dinner date (half out half in) isn't even double my 2hr rate and often is longer than 4hrs as well and as such it's my most popular date. I offer that because I am trying to make it clear that I prefer a social engagement, I enjoy talking to my dates and getting to know them as individuals. I used to offer 1hr dates when I was with an agency and though I still met a number of wonderful people I always walked away from the date a bit uncomfortable, I felt awkward and I wasn't able to relax and enjoy my time with the person I was with, when it came to intimacy I never felt I could relax and enjoy myself as I didn't feel a particular level of trust with the person I was with. I'm not an extrovert, in fact I'm very introverted so for me the immediate intimacy of 1hr dates was difficult. Now I know a number of good friends in the industry that have a completely opposite take on this business, one lady explained to me what she enjoyed best is the 'dirty' feeling of meeting someone new and having sex with them while not knowing much about them. Another lady said she finds it difficult in longer encounters to find that connection as she's in a different point in her life than most of her clients but they both enjoy sex and she can find that commonplace in a half hour or hour. So there are different ladies, different views and different approaches, one is not better than the other they are just tailored for different people and hopefully we all connect with the type of date we are looking for. Finally in regards to costing often you are paying a premium for longer dates rather than shorter ones. For my base city my $1500 for a dinner date is fairly average but my 2hr date of $900 is a premium. This has nothing to do with the amount of time I spend changing sheets, showering, etc. but is mainly based on the incentive to those that also enjoy social dates, it's a way of connecting with my preferred audience. In fact longer dates can take much more planning and work as most extended dates are prebooked and multiple emails (or phone calls) will be exchanged before one arrives at final plans. When a client is paying $1500 vs. $250 for a date there are higher expectations on the lady even though the lady at $250/hr may make more in gross profit than the lady at the higher rate. I know it's often expected of me to have nails, hair and makeup done, in general it's expected that I have a much more extensive wardrobe to allow me to easily blend with whatever environment I am invited to and those clothes are expected to be of a certain quality as well as I am expected to appear to match the clients social status - it generally isn't discrete to go to a fine dining restaurant with a lady half your age in a $30 dress when you are wearing something bespoke. So all in all the costs are different, how the ladies invest in their business is different and how they spend their time as well. I also don't spend a lot of my day sitting at an incall waiting for the phone to ring but the cost of that time is certainly calculated in how a lady with a different business model much the same as I calculate the time spent emailing with restaurant suggestions, verification, or concierge type services. *whew* end of my novel but I hope (if anyone bothered to read it) I have provided a little more insight into why ladies structure their businesses, both time and cost, the way they do.

I agree ! Quite simply a good post looking for opinions from people as to whether 45 minutes is an option, for those that maybe don't offer it now. Either an SP is interested or not interested and that is their perogative. There should NOT be criticism of ladies who offer short appointments......it should not be assumed that they are running the guys through the chute like cattle for money by the minute ...... They are offering a service to clients who have a time issue or a budget issue. That is how it should be looked at. If you have the opinion otherwise it does not need to be posted in this thread. Just keep that in the back or your mind. IMO

Ok so here goes. I was wondering for the past few weeks what it would be that I could write about two gorgeous, talented, sexy ladies. I mean alone each is off the chart. But together - as a duo ..... So here it is. I am soooooooooooooooooooooooo lucky to have met with both of these ladies at he same time. A friggin dream come true. I have been walking around with this huge grin on my face for like 3 weeks. I will tell you what I keep telling myself: WOW!!! Unfrigging believable! Oh my gawd! Fantasy of a life time! I now know the meaning of life! They were so awesome to watch and play with. Powerful passion and erotic explosions. I now have an incredible memory that will be with me forever. You will all recognize me. I am the guy with the permanent smile on my face. If you ever get the chance - just do it. Thank you ladies so very very much! Dreams do come true. See you again soon. Muah!!!

First off, I'd like to thank everyone who has made such thoughtful posts on this issue, and I learned a lot by reading through all the various posts. I don't engage in a lot of online discussions, so please don't mistake my silence for non-participation; I read everything I can about the subject, and I am truly impressed by the level of discussion on this forum in particular. But for the most part, I mainly use review boards for advertising, rather than activism, because I find it difficult to do both at the same time. I usually only comment when it's something I feel very strongly about, or something I think that needs to be said. Because this is such a serious issue for everyone on this board, I felt it was important to share it as soon as possible. I hope I'm not jumping the gun, but a lot of recent information seems to indicate that Joy Smith has backed away from her promise to introduce legislation to criminalize the purchase of sexual services. SPOC has been in touch with a number of Toronto-area MPs, mostly members of the Conservative Party. Today, I had a meeting with one of them, and from what he told me, it seems very likely that Joy Smith WILL NOT try to invoke the Nordic APPROACH (I refuse to legitimize by calling it a "model" for anything) during the upcoming session. The current bill, as he understands it, focuses entirely on trafficking and does not attempt to rewrite S.213© to exclusively target the clients. I can't confirm this until I see a copy of the proposed legislation, and we're working on getting it as we speak - if anyone could assist us in this matter, it would be extremely helpful. However, all the indications point towards the government backing off this issue, at least for now. I don't think it's going to last, because sooner or later, the Supreme Court will uphold Himel's decision and the government will be forced to deal with it. But between now and then, there's a lot of work to be done, especially in terms of networking with government officials - after all, most of them will be there for another four years, and I fully expect the SCC to rule before the next federal election. I hope that the government will continue to wait for the courts to rule before tabling any legislation, and in the meantime, will examine the existing and forthcoming evidence, to try to get a clearer picture of sex work in Canada. We will continue to engage in dialogue with members of all parties, to ensure that the lines of communication remain open when the government is ready to talk about this again. There are a number of ongoing studies, many of which are recruiting now or in the near future, that specifically aim to provide sex workers with a voice. Susi probably knows more details than I do, but if anyone has ever wanted to share their story in hopes of making a difference, there are many chances to do so. The research that's going on NOW will be the research that the federal government examines after the SCC rules on the challenge, so if we want to discredit the Farleys and Fiolleaus even further, we need to counter their claims not just with methodological criticisms, but also with well-conducted, unbiased studies. Saying "those stats are flawed" isn't as nearly useful as saying, "those stats are flawed and here are some stats that aren't." Politicians respond much better to the latter, believe me. If you are interested in participating in such a study, please ask Susi or myself for more details (sorry for volunteering you Susi, but you know it comes from love! <3) Anyways, I'm pleased about this turn of events, and I hope I'm not getting ahead of myself. I know the government will have to deal with this sooner or later, but for right now, they don't want to touch it. I guess they realized that if they start policing people's bedrooms even further, they'll have one hell of a fight on their hands! Oh, and guys? We know you treat us well (especially on this board!) and that's why we love you... but the fact is, we've been shouldering the entire load when it comes to sex work activism, while you've been mostly (and justifiably) silent. I certainly don't begrudge you for it, and I entirely respect your reasons - but now, they're coming after you. Maybe it's time to start thinking of ways that you can do more for the cause? After all, Joy Smith has four more years before she's up for re-election...

How do I feel ? ENVIOUS. There are many of us that have to plan and scheme for the oppertunity of an encounter. The Sun the Moon and all the Stars have to align just so for us. So when the oppertunity comes we don't want to knock off a 75% of a hour for this special event. I have only ever had 1 - 1hr appointment( an that was followed as quickly as I could with a 2hr with the same lady; and 1 - 1&1/2 hr appointment with a duo and that was unsatisfactory so I followed up with a 3 hr with one of the ladies. Everything else has been 2or 3 hours or an overnight. I think that I speak for a signifigant portion of the market, we are happy when we see a 1hr. rate and a discount of 2 and 3rd hr rates. There is justification for this too. There is no need to clean up the room; no need to redo the hair style, no need to pick up discarded clothing, no need for of change of wardrobe, no relighting of candles. There is time for a co ed shower to be part of the encounter and not just clean-up time. Naturally there is an allowance for a pee break(both teams). Tea break can be a part of the multiple hour encounter. On a lighter note , condom expenses might be the same but lube might get double duty. On the ladies side, honestly I think that longer time allows for better rapport and hence more repeat buisness, because you have time to sell the value of your service. That is just my view of the interaction. Maybe the buisness is all about; knock em out one after the other , quick as you can. Maximize profit per minute. This just isn't the way I have ever done buisness. When I see an ad. that offers multiple hours at even slight discounts I alway take a second look because I think ' this lady has something to offer me and knows she can do so if given an oppertunity. I vote for discounts on multiple hours.

I think you point out the perfect reason why generally there aren't big discounts for multiple hours. I never get tired or drained by sex, I'm a nympho. However, I can and do get emotionally drained at times, especially when booking sessions for multiple hours. In my experience, multiple hours take longer to plan, include more requests, attention to detail than say, a 30 min or 60 min session. You spend more time thinking of what special things you can do for the client since you'll be together longer. And, as Malika said, if it's a first meeting and you don't have great chemistry, what now? Frankly, I'm assuming that if someone is that taken with me and interested in spending extended periods of time with me, they are doing so because they want to be around me. Because they appreciate me as a human being and want my company. Not because I offer a discount on longer sessions. That makes no sense. Even though I get paid for this, as it is my job, I don't see clients for multiple hours if I feel it would hurt our relationship in some way(long sessions aren't for everyone), or if I don't like the gent. Money isn't everything and my place is not a revolving door of cash flow and random men.

I agree with Megan. Especially if it is the first time that you meet the gentleman and you spend 2,3 hours or even more with him...and you have zero chemistry, you need to pretend to be happy, smiling...but again sometime you have SUCH a good times with others gents that you are seriously, I got paid for that?

Maybe its just me, but I find this a really offensive statement of people who offer shorter sessions. Sorry, but providing a session that meets the needs of your clients is the goal of any business. No one who provides shorter sessions has spent time making derogatory comments about the people who prefer longer times lol, so I can't figure out why I keep seeing so many comments that seem to agree with this quote. I think you'd be surprised both at how much of a connection can be made in shorter sessions, simply because financially, it leads to a LOT of repetition.

... and when they wear hip waders.... just sayin' I guess what I am saying is... ummm... I love women.

I chose Meg (not Megan) for personal reasons and did not even know about Megan's Touch at the time! Since then, I have seen a few variations on the name but there is only one megforfun and only one Megan's Touch! :)

Cock rings come in different materials and configurations. In my experience with older men and men with erectile uncertainties, the man's comfort with the device is very important. I urge men to check out the various models and decide what they want to try. Every one of these has advantages and some drawbacks. All of the toys here are available at Honey Gifts in Vancouver. There are the leather ones with snaps that capitalman mentioned. These are well made from good-quality leather. With four snaps, there are several adjustment options. The snaps make it easy to remove the ring after ejaculation. Leather rings cost $12-15. There are lasso-type adjustable ones: These work best when slipped around the penis and scrotum. The one on the left is made of medical-grade surgical rubber which will make it easy to clean. However, if you're allergic to latex, this may not be the best choice. The ring on the right is made of silicone. Both are fully adjustable for the fit that feels best for you. The rubber one costs about $10 and the silicone is about $19. There are silicone ones that come in different sizes and shapes: These silicone rings are very stretchy. You slide them on over the penis and you can stretch them to go around the scrotum, too, if you like. I keep a set of the ones on the far left in my condom bag. The ones in the middle have different bumps and spines of different textures, all intended to provide additional clitoral stimulation for the woman. The one on the far right is similar to the trio on the left, but has a bigger diameter. These silicone rings cost about $10 for the sets as well as for the single one. And there are some elite models that are beautifully designed and include variable pulse vibrators: This model is made by Lelo, is fully adjustable, rechargeable and costs $126.00. I've never used this model, but Lelo makes ultra high-quality sex toys that are durable, beautifully designed and, the women's toys, at least, are worth every penny. There are other models that have built-in clit vibrators and perineum stimulators. Good ones are made of silicone and can be found in adult toy stores. Cheap, disposable models are available on the racks where condoms are sold in drugstores. I wouldn't use the drugstore variety as most of them are made of a gel substance that is often used in inexpensive sex toys but which can have some unpleasant health consequences for women who are exposed to it frequently. Cock rings should fit snugly, not tightly. As capitalman said, they help to maintain erections by restricting the blood flow. However, if too tight, they may make ejaculation difficult or impossible. Even though these are designed for men, it's important to consider the woman with whom they are used. I am very picky about what can come in contact with my body, particularly my genitals. For that reason, if you are with me, we can either use one of the stretchy, silicone rings that I provide, or you can bring a brand-new, still-in-the-original-sealed-package model of the kind you prefer. I will discard the one you bring after we part company (I don't keep toys in labelled envelopes for each client). The silicone rings are boilable and can be washed in the dishwasher, which means that I know how they were cleaned. As I noted, above, I won't use toys made of gel, at all. Since these toys are inexpensive, buy a couple of different kinds and try them by yourself. See what feels easiest to put on and take off, whether you want more adjustment control or whether you just like the feel of one more than another. I usually ask clients to put the rings on themselves to avoid pinching or pulling pubic hair uncomfortably. Finally, although it's easy for me to say, please don't feel embarrassed or anxious about using a cock ring with a paid companion. Erectile difficulties happen to all men at some point. Being with a new partner can increase anxiety a bit in addition to the various health problems that are a product of aging and lifestyle. Using a cock ring with a condom can be a great way to have a very satisfying, safe encounter with a paid companion.

I, m with Mr Green pay for at least an hour and your free to leave anytime you want in that 60 mins at 37 mins 42 mins or 51-lol-this isn,t a parking meter-maybe its just me but when i see people looking for less time they seem to be looking to spend less -if its for ex. 300 an hour is it then 150 a half and 225 for 45 ? to get the more or less the same result ? I think the better question for the women at the end of the day is - is it increasing my botton line or decreasing it ? (no pun intended)

Chuck Norris and JCVD confirmed for The Expendables 2!!!! :D Posted via Mobile Device

I may be off base here, but you all may be assuming ... given that our minds are always on sex here on cerb ... that Jabba's reference to a "squirtable O" refers to a squirting orgasm. My money is on some sort of goofy youtube video. Here's hoping I'm wrong?

As a guy who finds the librarian look incredilby hot, glasses can be a definite turn on. I know this thread has been up for a while and forgive me if this has been covered before, but conservative glasses on a lovely naked lady is hot, hot, hot - skip the designer ones with your initials on the sides.....YMMV

even in this yummy cupcakes would be awesome, I should try and bake those :tongue:

TOFTT is much less offensive then when guys ask if anyone has "tried" an SP. Makes me crazy. A complete and utter lack of respect.

For me chemistry is huge. It makes for a very very enjoyable encounter because both parties are into it and feel it and usually leaves them looking forward to seeing each other again in the future. As for a bad experience, don't beat yourself up over it. It happens to all of us. If you have an SP you click with great, but don't give up on going out and finding a new wonderful experience if that is what you want. Look around Cerb here. So many wonderful ladies, read their ads, and you can tell what they are looking for and IMO only ..... most of them are looking for exactly what you are. Chemistry and a relaxed, fun, fun, fun sexy time.

Forty-five minutes seems about perfect to me, I'm not that interesting. I mentioned in another thread that sometimes I've received 45 minute sessions without even requesting them. Peace MG

I could be wrong, but I think Rockstar might be looking for the next 'hidden gem'. Sadly, I don't think anyone new has been rocking the industry here in Winnipeg. However, there are still very professional, reliable, friendly, fit, attractive, enthusiastic and honest providers in Winnipeg. I'm getting a little tired of constantly reading on the other board how brutal and 'bottom of the barrel' it has become in Winnipeg. It's just not true. And it's about time someone said so. I think it's about time someone defended the women who keep appointments, don't answer their phones during a session, accommodate your schedule to the best of their ability, provide fresh and clean sheets every time, take time to set the mood, dress in sexy lingerie, do their hair and make-up after having freshly showered, make you feel comfortable and incredible, providing all the services they advertise, for the fee advertised and no up-sells. I know a few Sps like that and I don't think their phones are ringing off the hook, like they should be. Of course I personally wouldn't know. I'm in Saskatoon this month. ;)

A coworker of mine commented to me today how she wishes it was acceptable for women to wear ties because she loves wearing ties, I told her to go for it. It got me thinking about it...and you know what? I think women in ties are HAWT!! How about you guys? Are women in ties hot? Obviously there's the whole schoolgirl uniform fetish that a lot of guys have but I'm more referring to business attire, or casually out on the town and wearing a tie, or maybe seeing your favorite SP in some sexy little number with a tie as an accessory. And ladies how do you feel about wearing neckties?

Hi Many sp offer 1/2 1 hr 1.5 hr and 2 hrs. A few offer 45 minutes, Which is what I would prefer. 30 minutes is too short and sometimes an hour is too long for a lunch encounter. Too me 45 minutes is just about right. Enough time to shower, chat have fun and cleanup, especially if this is a first time meeting. Sometimes an hour can be awkwards. how do you feel about 45 minutes?

In my experience, sometimes you really click with a service provider and sometimes you just don't. I have had some amazing moments that still leave me breathless when I think about them. Other experiences have me convinced I must be the worst lover ever. What are your experiences? What do you do when the experience just leaves you limp from start to finish? Do you go back over and over to those you click with? Are you fearful it may be a one time thing and don't want to jinx it?

1. Never ask, "Do you prefer black olives or green olives?" We know that's a secret code for something filthy that you are thinking. We just haven't figured out what the code actually means... BUT WE KNOW IT'S FILTHY and we will be really angry when we figure it out. 2. Ladies, don't ask us to sing show tunes or a Barbra Streisand song. We know what that means and no, we will not come to your home and give you a colour consultation or decorating tips. 3. Don't ask us which Transformer we prefer. That's racist, sexist and machinist. I am sure there are lots of other "ists" that I could mention but I am so damn mad that you brought that up, that I can't think of them now. Damn you. 4. Never say you have to pee. We know that you will be touching genitucalar region and that makes us feel cheap, and will also trigger our sympathetic pee reaction and we will have to pee too. You know that we too will be touching our genitucalar regions as well and that is the same as having computer sex with us. Bastards. 5. Don't drink creamy drinks, eat sausages, cucumbers or carrots, shellfish or tacos while on camera. It's wrong and will make us hungry. 6. Never say, "I am horny." Clearly you have fingers and thumbs and are operating a keyboard. Horned creatures generally have hooves. Their typing skills are fettered by a distinct clustering of letters like this "cxdrtyjmhgfdcvbn" caused by the simultaneous pressing of many keys with one keystroke. This is a moose, and he is horny (or more precisely Antlery.) You are not a moose. 7. Don't ask if I am busy. Clearly I am at home sitting in my boxer shorts and a t-shirt. Your remote mockery makes me sad.

Please do not jump on me the second I sign into chat and request a private chat. Give me a minute to say hello to other people first. Before you ask me to private chat, please check out my profile and/or website before you launch into a tirade of questions such as: "How old are you" or "which city are you in" (Yes, I get asked this even though my handle indicates where) Do not ask me to engage in erotic chat talk Do not ask me to join you on cam (there is a reason I don't own a cam) Do not ask me intimate questions like "were you busy today", "are you attached" "is your roommate male or female" or "how's business". As Meg said, do not pretend we have never chatted before and start with your rehearsed list of questions Do not ask if I want to see your cock on cam. I don't. Do not ask me gossipy type questions about others who you I may be friendly with. If you want to ask me something do do with booking an appointment, please use the whisper feature. Thank you.

I just had this image of you without your contacts or glasses peeing on a towel.... LOL The perils of reading too many posts together!

What a nice thing to do and being able to recognize those moments is special. This is the highlight of my day, thank you :) Peace MG

Capitalman grovel? I'd pay admission to see that!

With those boobies, she could do whatever she wanted in my kitchen! :)

No problem with not sharing. Us ladies are very smart, inventive and can surely find out and do it on our own and perfect our own techniques!!

This recommendation is a little late having seen her awhile ago. But I wanted to write because Jude keeps on getting better and better. Her technique is really amazing. Im not sure how she learned it but you can tell she is really skilled. Love the fact that she uses really nice quality creams for the massage and the candles were a nice added touch. She really gave a thorough massage and she found exactly where it was tense. Amazing really. I go to an RMT who is good and Jude is on par. Of course has the added qualities: incredibly beautiful, such nice breasts, slim flexible body and gorgeous face. A real treasure for Ottawa!

For myself teasing and mood is very important it's what always bring me back to MA I had the pleasure to try the "different approach" with one an all time favorite cerb MA it was my first visit with her the rendez-vous was amazing and she tried very hard to give me a second happy ending which didn't happen my conlcusion was that I'd rather have a huge happy ending with lots of teasing then having 2 lol What does it for me is when I"m on my stomach and the MA massage between my legs close to my butt the anticipation of when I"ll feel her fingers close to my balls is the biggest turn on I can eve r have!! Posted via Mobile Device

Girls come and go...move from agency to agency. Always have; always will. No need to explain but I like the classy response PKJason!

training for the social....

Home made Kraft pizza. In the oven at the moment. Yummm one of my favs!!!

I love a tie on a woman. It can look so classy and sexy. But I also like when done not to look masculin but show a formal, confident, feminine look. I've also been lucky to have a CERB lady work thru my closet putting on shirts, ties and suite coats. Was quite the fashion show. I gotta go shopping before her next visit. Hehe Cub

To me meeting a "non recommended" lady is much the same as meeting a lady in real life. By using you God given ability to speak, listen, understand and think for yourself you can make a wise and informed decision. Don't ever underestimate the power of conversation when you wish to meet someone here on Cerb. As said in countless threads before if you are respectful the lady will answer your questions and respond to your comments, and she may even ask you a question or two...thus a dialogue is opened. A date, much like a relationship, is forged on trust and communication and YOU can't trust somebody by relying on someone else's opinion! So basically recommendations are both important and not important at the same time...quite a paradox, no?

This "chemistry" is like some kind of majical mystical ingredient we can't put our finger on....but I think there are some ways to increase the possibility of good chemistry. 1. know what type of women you like and see that type ie. BBW or Tall or Asian or whatever. 2. ALWAYS be clean, well groomed and polite 3. Do your homework! ->Don't ask for things she is not into! 4. be relaxed, well rested, don't show up hungry or PMS'd for that matter 5. Let chemistry develop on its own...you can't force it! imho ymmv

It is ALL about chemistry.

Just a thought, instead of waiting to see a current recommendation before seeing a lady, see a lady, and write a recommendation I personally don't like the phrase TOFTT...really you are seeing a lady for yourself not some imagined team. But if you see a lady you like, write a recommendation...irrespective of whether one has been written on her before. A quick thought RG

Well I'm of the opinion that seeing a lady is more than just sex, so chemistry is definitely a large part of the encounter. Talking, communicating, hug,kiss, sense of humour etc etc etc,...everything that is done prior to clothes being removed is very important for a good encounter Menu is not first and foremost on my mind, nor do I even ask about it anymore, I prefer an encounter to unfold naturally But through posts/emails/pm's/the lady's website/profile gives me a good idea if we will click. And even if we don't see eye to eye on every single subject, it makes for interesting discussions Some ramblings RG

IMHO That's where TM (trademark) law would apply, otherwise - fair game(ish). (*Note: This is not legal advice, and thank someones god I am not a lawyer nor play one online.) Brand recognition can be very valuable - and thus requires protection if one doesn't want others to erode the investment one might of put into building their brand to begin with, as greed breeds mean deeds endlessly when it comes selfish thieves trying to make a fly-by-night buck off of ones good name and business. Good faith is just that - faith. No protection is just that - no protection. Hmmm, for $$$ - quick and easy cash - the kind most selfish people try to get. Im no SP - but I hobby - and Bait n Switch is alive in well in this industry as much as anywhere else. ...as much as some people burn their own bridges and destroy their brands all on their own, with the same selfish greed to make quick and easy $$$. ...would taste as sweet ;)

Your name in the industry is your "brand" - the more unique you can be the more brand potential you have. Why would anyone want to be someone else?

It depends a lot on your wants and needs. You can get an Android Next6 tablet from Walmar for only $188 http://www.walmart.ca/Electronics/Computers-Accessories/Tablets/Next6-Tablet It doesn't connect directly to the cell network (ala 3G), but you connect via WiFi or tether it to your cell phone for internet access. It's pretty neat and covers off all of the basics and then some. They have a 15 day return policy, so if you don't like it just bring it back and try another.

dirty talk hair pulling spanking spitting short skirts booty shorts piercings tattoos doing inappropriate things in public and almost getting caught doing stuff we shouldn't taking risks getting my partner off looking into my eyes DFK DFK DFK telling me what u want and how u like it.............. the unknown mystery dates/encounters roleplaying threesomes making this list :) I will stop now but there is so much more :)

Unfortunately this thread went a little south, OK a lot south. The issue at hand is that we have a lady that has a " real bad stalker ". This is a serious problem that needs to be addressed and the Mod is doing what he can do to help the situation. If the police are needed to prevent the situation from escalating, so be it, after all it is her personal safety in jeopardy. In the meantime while it is being addressed, lets hang tight with positive attitudes.

I think it is pretty hard to specifically define a couple words on a page as soliciting or playful. It really depends on the 'relationship' between the 2 people and the context. If someone is saying 'come see me' on numerous hobby pages with no existing interaction than thats surely soliciting. But I prefer to edge on the more liberated side. After all lets not forget what this sight is about. I get tickled when a lady I might have had a small initial interaction with (even me viewing her page) posts a message. It doesn't mean I need to respond. And some ladies who I know do post random messages on my page. Some can just say 'hi' and I get that warm feeling. However, the original thread is not about posts on guest pages. It is about the loss of visiter information. Understanding and supporting the reason for its removal...I look forward to the optionality of its return. Cub