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Please DO NOT have conversations on the ladies recommendation threads, if you want to ask questions about a lady do it in the discussion areas (put a link to the recommendation if you wish) but please DO NOT ask questions or make comments on the recommendation threads that are not adding to the recommendation. Your just BUMPING it and in some cases posting bad questions. Today alone I had to remove a comment from someone bitching that the lady owed him money, I had to remove a comment asking if she does BBBJTC and another asking about a different lady! Come on guys please DO NOT do this. and ladies... remember you can not post a reply on your recommendation threads either. If someone has posted something you do not like on your rec thread simply FLAG it using the REPORT THIS icon on the post.

At the risk of extending this discussion further, I will add a quick 2 cents. I absolutely love CERB. It's the best forum in the galaxy as far as I am concerned, and I am not exaggerating. The people are amazing, the responsiveness is great and the content is dead-on. Oh, and the Mods are fantastic. However, it is not perfect and this thread is an example of about the only thing that bugs me about CERB: Someone asks a question and people spend pages worth of replies not answering the question and/or telling the original poster what he should or shouldn't have said. This happened to me when I posted a question about whether any of the ladies accepted credit cards. What followed were numerous replies about how using a credit card is a bad idea and why, and how so many people only deal in cash, and why, etc. I don't know that I received a single actual answer to my question, which was frustrating. I've seen it when people post questions about best provider for this, that, or the other thing. I'm betting that oparala felt similar frustration when he saw some of these replies. I know, in my case, I would have rather received few or no responses than have had to wade through numerous replies that I didn't see as helpful. That's my two cents. It's not the end of the world that these discussions often evolve, but as a person who has been on one end of them in the past, I just wanted to put this out there. Peace and love :)

I've been watching all this and biting my tongue. Directly from the rules and I quote: "Posting asking "Are there any ladies who offer xxxxxxx in this city?" (Ladies and guys can respond to a question like this) and if you ask the ladies to pm you they can (but only if you ask)" is a specific example of what IS ACCEPTABLE. So oparala left out the city (but then he did post it in the Ottawa discussion area) so his post is almost verbatim from the rules on what kind of post is an acceptable one. Anyone that didn't know the answer or didn't want to help him need not reply, myself included (because I don't know the answer) but I am now going to post in his defense because when he says "However i dont need anyone to tell me what i'm doing is lazy or to look into their ads because i already do. Thanks for your time anyway" this sounds to me like he got just a little beat up and that I don't like that because I'm the real friendly type and I don't think this is what CERB is about, I'm also stupid and fearless :) I also know that much of our communication is non-verbal and typed communication like emails and posts on CERB are so easily misinterpreted. Having said that, many replies (maybe even all) were people trying to help and quite polite and I don't think anyone intended to beat him up, but don't you get the sense or feeling from his last message that he might feel a little this way? So why not beat me up and leave him alone... now you have a new target! Or lets just assure him that no one meant to beat him up in the first place. That's the purpose of my post: Pleased to make your acquaintance oparala and I hope you find what you are looking for and wish I could help you. Oh and back on topic, any lady that offers BBBJ risks CIM, simple physics.

Do keep in mind that just because you don't see the cameras does not mean they are not there, in fact looking around for them could appear suspicious in and of itself. So I zoom in the lobby like I know where I am going and round the corner, and alas there are no elevators, it's the restaurant! So I study the menu, look at my watch like I am planning to come back to eat there and do a perfectly natural about face and now that I know were they aren't, I have a much better idea of where they are and find them easily like I knew all along. Of course coming in through the underground parking is fine also as long as you really did park a car there and have the right to. We have a camera in the elevator of one building I work in and I triple guarantee you can't see it but it can see you. Also several other cameras are well disguised and then we also have cameras that are not cameras. Just so if you do scope out where you think they are, fooie on you! Something as innocent looking an an emergency light often contains a camera also. So I always "assume" I am on camera and act completely normal like I belong there (because I do belong there).

Cat, I agree with you, 100%. We have to be proactively part of the solution. That may be more difficult than it seems at first glance. There's a lot of public support and sympathy for street-based workers--and rightly so. But if the public were to realize how many independent paid companions are living and working in their midst, well, let's just say that it won't matter that many, many of us have been working quietly under the radar for years without causing the slightest problem for anyone. We will need to advocate for ourselves. The New Zealand model for independent women who work alone or with another couple of associates is sensible and has worked well in NZ for quite awhile. City officials and neighbours need to be assured that municipal bylaws will take care of their biggest concerns--traffic, noise, disturbances--and that this kind of local management is the most effective, too. As for the street-based sex workers, clearly the OCOA has sold them out. Perhaps the court was trying to toss a bone to the anti-prostitution folks or the community standards advocates; I don't know why they would make such a badly-constructed decision in the midst of what is otherwise a carefully thought-out judgment. At the same time, even though soliciting in public is a crime, no one has been arrested in Vancouver for doing it in over three years and I suspect that there's not a lot of interest in prosecuting women in other large cities. If the communicating law had been struck down it would not result in an influx of women to the street-based sex trade. The great majority of women in that sector of our industry have multiple problems and challenges that culminate in using the streets and alleys as workplaces. They're not going to work in organized brothels: they're not ready for the changes that would be required of them, unfortunately.

While the intention of the inquiry is understandable, the service itself carries with it a justifiable stigma as a high risk activity. Even if a provider chooses to offer it at her discretion, my guess is that most wouldn't want it advertised in a public thread. The few providers who advertise for it cater to a distinct client base. Even though CERB is an open board, many prefer not see or be seen as a "cum bucket" which is the traditional derogatory slang for FS providers who offer such services. I think this is why there was a perceived "tone" to some responses. To each their own in my eyes, it can't hurt to ask; but when asking be prepared for responses you may not feel useful. cat

I'm going to listen to your advice and create another post so that the ladies can pm me. But on the second thought. Ill just wait a while untill this thread sort of chills down. Thanks again backrubman !

Obviously I don't mean the "lawn" I mean their personal hair,groin hair,pubic region.I am wondering if this is a macho thing,laziness or being married guys you just don't.What ever the reason for the guys that don't,you might get more head if you cropped your mop,or shaved it completely.

I have no idea where you find out someone has reached double god/goddess status but a little birdie told me that my beautiful Nicolette has risen to this wonderful status. You know you are so very important to me and I am happy to have been given the opportunity to be the first to congratulate you. To the beautiful Nikki....you rock my gorgeous friend!

I end up doing TOO much laundry!

If the elevators are not in plain view this is exactly what I do (I give them a reference point) when giving out my suite number a few minutes before they enter the hotel for our a rendez-vous. Gentlemen always appreciated it and it makes them feel more at ease.

Find the lady that you like and contact her to confirm. Some might prefer to only offer this service at their discretion. Start a thread and ask if any lady likes CIM, then narrow down to the one you choose. These questions are usually better asked in PM or private. SNS724

While I don't offer this service.. I don't think girls who do should be shy about it! We can be called all sorts of things by other people and I always stand by the statement. "the opinions of others about me are none of my business". If you enjoy a certain sex act shout it to the rooftops.. you will always find someone who matches it.. within reason of course and within legal/ethical boundaries... yadda yadda yadda. 'Kosher' or not :)

You could always text/phone the lady to ask her where the elevators are, prior to arriving. But really, it's only when you make yourself look out of place that you draw attention to yourself...hotel staff must see hundreds of people every day, just blend in. People are expected to be coming and going in hotels, it's nothing sinister RG

This would be very nice: This pyjama party would not be fine: but this would be just fine:

ouch how about "like a Surgeon, cutting for the very first time" Additional Comments: Thankyou for that interesting history. I find it quite interesting how what "looks sexy" changes over time. I have access to the playboy pictorials from the 1950 to today and there have been some big changes. For my own nether regions, I've been trimming it, but think my wife might notice if I did so very drastically.

My fear has never been what will happen federally, new laws will be written. The real threat will come provincially and municipally. We will be relegated to commercial/industrial areas unless it is written into federal law otherwise. I have always felt that pointing out a problem without offering a solution is the most dangerous move when it comes to change. Everyone can see the issue but no one wants to take the time craft the solution. I believe that it is a tactical error to force those with no vested interest to make life altering decision for others. There needs to be a plan presented that works for us. If not, we will reap what is sown instead of what we wanted to plant. cat

What do agencies do now regarding incalls? I imagine it will depend on the answer to that. I think some folks are assuming that massage parlours will suddenly turn into brothels. Cities are still in control of licensing businesses, that won't change. Some massage parlours have body rub licenses and are legally allowed to do hjs, but nothing beyond that from what I understand. This is not common at all to get such a license, and the majority of mps afaik do the services without the proper city licensing/ It might be possible for those with existing licenses to be able to start doing all sexual services, as they would (assuming complete removal of bawdy house laws) not be breaking the bawdy house law at all. No client would be arrested for being in a bawdy house, no owner could be charged with living off the avails (the other law). I think the main thing is that now, and most sps will finally be comfortable setting up incalls in their own homes or even to rent a 2nd aparment full time and set up one away from home, and no longer assume they are safer doing incalls in hotels. As Samantha points out, a hotel room is not any more legal than your own home, but I have found that a lot of sps think it is. The laws have been sufficiently confusing that the majority of the public also continued to think that prostitution itself is illegal.

You are very welcome, like I said pleased to make your acquaintance. I think CERB is the most incredible resource with the most neat, interesting and intelligent people that I have ever found gathered together in one place. Sometimes we can seem unfriendly (I know I've been misunderstood before) but I truly think it only "seems" that way sometimes and now I have a lot more understanding of this so it doesn't bother me much at all like it did when I first found this wonderful place. Back to the topic at hand as I'm trying to help you with your research (although CIM isn't for me and I'll die a happy man never having experienced it and if I ever do it will be an accident, but I don't judge either, maybe I know not what I am missing)... One way your question may have gone astray and is what several people alluded to that it is felt inappropriate to name names in public posts and I certainly have to agree with that, neither the clients or the SPs would appreciate public posts in response to your question that kiss and tell. The rules say "and if you ask the ladies to pm you they can (but only if you ask)" and you didn't invite any lady that wanted to discuss this to PM you, so perhaps if you make just one more public post that does ask for PMs then they will be able to PM you about it without breaking the rules. I know there are hundreds of ladies wanting to PM you about this but can't because it would break the rules (ok, so it's not quite April 1st yet) but there might be the one you are looking for that would PM you and I didn't want to wait until April 1st to suggest this :)

I always keep mine neatly trimmed! :)

It's pretty hard to have an an unattractive vagina. But people are people and they always want what they dont have, the grass is always greener on the other side, familiarity breeds contempt etc etc. If there was such a thing as a guy who found your vag unappealing, there are undoubtedly a whole bunch more who would dig those beefy steak drapes. Accept yourself now as you are and how you're built.

This probably isn't relevant to this conversation, but it's about chocolate, so there you go :)

So, assuming that after whatever legal and legislative shenanigans remain to be gone through the bawdy-house law remains struck down, what do people think will actually happen? Just because something's legal, it doesn't mean it's unregulated. Look at SCs, for example: yes, they exist, and they're overt, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily easy to open one. Last I looked, the Ottawa bylaws were constructed so as to make it pretty much impossible to open a new SC, so we're stuck with the existing ones that were grandfathered in. I have no doubt that if brothels are legalized, a similar raft of hopelessly restrictive bylaws for licensing would arise. Many places might ban them entirely. Most would probably ban them from residential areas, or anywhere near schools or places of worship or youth clubs (and I'm sure there are others). I'm pretty sure you could make the rules come down to "sorry, there's nowhere suitable" without an explicit ban, if you chose. I can't imagine it'd take much effort. And so you'll end up with a situation that's still much like what we have today; many independent ladies will be working out of residential properties (whether it's actually where they live or a dedicated incall) and, although they will no longer be doing anything wrong under criminal legislation, will still be looking at a hefty fine if caught. Which they probably won't be, unless they're careless. So really, what will have changed? I should add that I'm far less cynical about the changes to the living off the avails law, as that seems to improve things for pretty much everyone without much downside. But I just can't get all that excited about the bawdy-house law being struck down, I'm afraid. I hope I'm wrong...

I don't particularly like full bush on a woman, thought I don't have any problem if it's trim. I don'y like to eat pub hair when I am down on a woman:D Personally I shave everything...probably going to start to laser it soon as I get the fund. The reason why I shave everything is I do have some body issues with the size of my inner labia...I have "outies" lips and they are rather big, people would think that since I don't like them I would rather have some hair to "hide" then, but they just look uglier in my eyes cover of hair. It look like a beast in the middle of the jungles to me:P

I visit 99% of the time first thing in the morning .... soo I quite like jammies or jeans .... to be honest the casual look to start the date on a morning encounter I find hot and gets my motor revving :) Sooo SMQ I am A OK with the t-shirt and undies should we ever hook up first thing in the morning ;)

I like cum in my mouth does that count?

Just thought I would clarify this a bit. She used to work for years at one of the massage places and was extremly well liked. She is not the one from St B at all. She is a little reserved because that's the way she is and dosn't like a whole pile of attention and or drama. She is just a normal girl with great looks and a nice little wild side to her when she gets to know you. I don't normally like to kiss and tell but she is a girl that you would see at Earls and or could be like a personal pornstar. All good reviews I say.

I agree with you, drlove. But I think the feds will appeal because they won't want to be seen, from their perspective, to roll over when the PM has been so emphatic about the prostitution laws. There's always the chance that, by the time the SCC makes a ruling, we may have a different government and they'll have to deal with the outcome of the SCC decision. Even if we're still bearing the burden of a Harper government, it's in their interests to delay things for as long as possible. While the OCOA decision applies only to Ontario, it sets up other courts to make similar or related rulings in other provinces. Courts frequently refer to the reasoning and decisions rendered by other courts. And so, it is foreseeable that the OCOA decision may have effect across the country. As it is already, no one has been arrested for soliciting in public in Vancouver in more than three years and no independent paid companion has been charged with operating a bawdy house in a very long time. Massage parlors and micro brothels have been raided, however. Some of the massage parlors are operated by organized crime, here, but most are not. The micro brothels are usually run by Asians and staffed by women who are visiting Canada from China or Korea. While I understand that many people imagine a brothel to be something like the Chicken Ranch in Nevada or a Victorian brothel from some movie, that's not the reality. Legally speaking, thousands of brothels already operate all over the country, in every large city and in every neighbourhood of those cities. Most of these brothels are operated by independent paid companions who work alone, often from our own homes or from apartments we've rented to use as workspace. While I don't consider myself to be running a brothel, I could be charged with keeping a common bawdy house because I "habitually" offer my companionship services in the same place to more than one client. Indeed, if a paid companion rents a hotel room and sees two or more gentlemen there, that room can be deemed to be a bawdy house. The media is already giving time and space for people who want to frighten the public into imagining that busy houses full of prostitutes will be operating 24/7 in their neighbourhoods, endangering children's safety and attracting shady characters and a lot of crime, too. This is highly unlikely. While there are sex workers who do want to work together and perhaps open unambiguous brothels, most paid companions will continue to prefer to work as quietly and unobtrusively as possible. Some of us are eager to be able to work publicly. Plenty of us prefer privacy. Similarly, some of our visitors may be happy to attend at a well-known establishment, but I suspect that the majority will continue to prefer more discrete, confidential companionship. The point of overturning the bawdy house laws is to give women in the sex trade choices about where they feel is safest for them to work. It also affords us the same privacy to engage in mutually consensual activities with other adults that the rest of the Canadian public enjoys.

I agree with you. Specially when, for most of the girl, that kind of service is YMMV.

no offense but this just seems lazy now... the advertisements are there for a reason, all you have to do is look through them and fire off a pm. its not really "cosure" for people to start naming names for certain services.

Here are some afternoon ramblings. I'm wondering if ladies using certain terms are less using them to describe themselves as they use them to weed out a certain clientele. For example a "upscale courtesan" is less likely to attract a guy looking for a 15 minute incall at Motel 8 But for me, in my learning curve, I've discovered the best selling technique the ladies have is their postings here on CERB. Since embarking on this lifestyle in July 2010, I've had four bad encounters. All four of those ladies were non-CERB. CERB isn't a vetting board, but for those ladies who participate, you do get an idea of the lady you are to meet. I now stay exclusively with CERB, not only does it give me an idea of ladies I want to meet, it gives me an idea of those I don't want to meet...and I'm sure it works the same way for the ladies too. As for the subject of the written word, since it has been brought up. The worst place for learning to write was university, in my experience. All they wanted was for you to write as long a report as possible. But having a degree is a sign of an education. My work life taught me to be as concise a writer as possible, so much so I get reports that my boss should be writing, she gives them to me to write. And education and intelligence are not one and the same. Some of the smartest people (common sense) I know have high school, some of the dumbest (well they are book smart) have post graduate degrees. But at the end of the day, the selling point for me in seeing a lady is "is she a lady I would like to meet, a nice person, someone to spend a few hours with, and maybe see on a regular basis?" Wow, that's a long winded rambling from a guy who's reports are normally concise RG

Although I generally agree with the above I have to be 100% honest and admit that I sometimes 'roll my eyes' when I feel like certain words are being misused due to a total lack of consistency between the elements (ads, actual language used, posts, pictures, website, overall presentation, ect.). For example, when a lady chooses to call herself a 'classy upscale elite courtesan' and addresses her audience in the 'hey boys cum c me u will not regret it i have no restrictions' manner, focuses on 15 minutes specials, goes on car dates, has grainy amateur pictures taken with a blackberry and all you see in the background are clothes on the floor and beer cans on the night stand next to an ashtray full of cigarette butts... well I have to say that none of it makes sense to me and this is when I roll my eyes and ask myself if I missed something. Yes, it is up to each and everyone of us to advertise ourselves in the way we desire and see fit but I also believe consistency and correlation should play an honest part in the marketing process.

Paul A Young Fine Chocolates is one of my personal favorites in London! http://www.paulayoung.co.uk/ There's also William Curley, which is not all that far from my place. http://www.williamcurley.co.uk/engine/shop/index.html A couple of others for you, http://www.rococochocolates.com/ http://www.artisanduchocolat.com/

Sex is sweeter than chocolate! Some of the best chocolate I've ever had is here on the Island at the Newfoundland Chocolate Company. They make heavenly truffles. Porthos

It's been clear from the time Justice Himel released her decision that this would end up at the Supreme Court of Canada, regardless of the outcome at the Ontario Court of Appeal. So, yes, this is just one step along the way. While the Harper government opposes the Himel decision, there's no certainty that the SCC will. Indeed, the SCC is historically reluctant to overturn Appeal decisions. The Harper government has shown a reluctance to abide by SCC recommendations or to accept its advice. What they will do if the SCC upholds Himel is difficult to say since they pay an enormous amount of attention to poll results and, so far, the polls have overwhelmingly been in favour of the direction the Himel decision leads. It's also important to note that police departments and the RCMP across the country show little interest in arresting women who work on the streets. When law enforcement agents choose not to enforce laws, the longevity of new legislation that would essentially replicate current laws may be limited. However, that doesn't mean that street-based sex workers are safer than they were when they were more likely to be charged.

How did I miss this thread? Laundry. UGH More than I can say. But there is a way to adapt. Firstly, my mattress has one of those high end mattress covers that they now call bed bug inhibitors (man there was a marketing coup!). I have my sheets and a comforter, but I dont use my comforter because I know better. What I did was convert 2 duvet covers, into, well, covers. There's nothing in them (I do occasionally slip a couple of baby changing pads in it for longer sessions, but they absorb wonderfully if a towel or body is not handy. So a playdate will make the Gents towels and facecloth, mine, and the cover into the machine. And any towels that may have been grabbed. Thats it. One is in the laundry and one is always fresh. As for squirting or gushing, both depend on position and intensity of orgasm imo. Marathon ejaculation will actually dehydrate me, and I suspect anyone else who squirts. Which is why there is always a beverage for us nearby when we play. And yes, Nicki is such a sweet squirter! :icon_wink:

Haha lol I have to laugh because sometimes I think reading is just like a long lost piece of ancient mystical art for some... My ad will say I am visiting from xday to xday, will ask to be contacted via email only and will say to visit my website for more information about me and/or my donation. What do you think happens? "Hey there, I just saw your ad saying you will be visiting from the 15th-17th. Can I see you on the 19th? What about your rates? Do you offer half hours? How tall are you? Please get back to me." How ironic when it is also sent via PM lol Additional Comments: What is it with the "Hey there"? Is that an English thing or a common saying instead of using someone's name?

I totally volunteer to be the target. I'll put a white little tshirt on with a bullseye.. let's see who hits it the hardest and with most accuracy.. booyah!!!

I tease Nicolette sometimes by affectionately referring to her as Niagara Nicki. I know DD Emma is also a squirter as is Chanel Reign.

Well I guess I should respond because I do allow daty{sometimes} but not kissing.Like malika said kissing for me is a presonal thing,something I keep for a relationship,daty if myself and choosen person decides to do it is between to adults who are aware of the possible risks,as is sex with multiple partners.All one can do is take as many precautions as possible and visit your doctor regularly.We all know, as said, the only safe sex is with yourself!and what one adult decides to do with another is just that,between to consenting adults.

Tho I haven't tried, I think you'd be surprised that the sensation may be preferable for a very sensitive woman to use the barrier. As many guys may be too rough, too aggressive, too fast, this can protect her from being over stimulated. For the OP, I don't think I've seen too many sps that offer daty, but not kissing. I have seen the other way around, but to do daty and not kissing, I don't see any rational much for that other than personal reasons as mentioned (saving for SO) or concern about colds and flu bugs.