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For my father to survive the second major surgery he is facing in days that could very well kill him on the OR table and then to recover from it (along with the first surgery he is currently recuperating from).

The one thing that didn't seem to be addressed in the article is how the nice guy thought that a woman who was asleep actually wanted to have sex with him at that moment. I understand why he would have thought they were going to have sex eventually, but I don't get how he could think she would like what he was doing and wanted it when a woman is ASLEEP. What is she going to be enjoying, exactly, while she is unconscious? I really feel like this was the wrong case to be having the debate around. It's not a case of them both just being drunk. She was unconscious and apparently that is not debated at all. The man who put his penis inside her agreed that she was unconscious when he did it. So I think that talking about all the mixed signals he was receiving due to cultural factors is a bit moot in this case. Of all the time they spent together, flirting and drinking and all of that, he chose a time when she was passed out to penetrate her. How can he have thought she wanted that? I understand that one will have a reasonable expectation that a series of flirtatious interactions may lead to sex. I don't get how that leads to penetrating someone while they are asleep, and then being so confused as to how that wasn't okay. I think if you really have the expectation that a woman is going to have sex with you because she actually wants to, then you would also expect that she needs to be conscious when the sex happens. It's pretty hard to think she's enjoying it while unconscious. Because, you know, she's unconscious. I'm sorry. I just can't get over that.

mine would be that the shooting today didn't happen

I'll be selfish, I have two. First is for my dad to beat cancer. He's got a positive outlook, his leukemia is the most treatable kind, but it's still cancer and to say I'm concerned is an understatement. One plus, tomorrow morning heading to my brother's, dad and his wife flying in to Ontario for a visit before heading home, family gets to see him this weekend Second, my mom is having eye surgery in the New Year. The surgeon is good, and the surgery isn't considered risky, but still it's your eyes, I want mom to come out of the surgery ok RG

Enjoy the holiday season ... peace on earth would come more quickly if we all just spent more time with our favourite ladies. Set aside some cash for yourself, cause nobody knows what you like and want better than your favourite SP. And rather than looking for deals, tip her extra for taking such good care of you. Porthos

FYI a MP working as a INDIE doing outcalls falls under the same category as a legal prostitute but any massage SPA location where the ladies are offering "ORAL" is very much illegal (and we do not discuss illegal things here or give recommendations for such things) so please be careful what you say and post cause if a MA in a SPA is doing this they are breaking the law and the SPA turns into a BROTHEL in the eyes of the law.

If the CRs weren't as open but there was to be more enforcement of the existing club regulations, that would mean a much more obvious bouncer presence with them having to get much closer to each couple to see if anything extra is going on. As it stands, they can just do a quick walkthrough of the CR while glancing around the booths, resulting in their presence barely being noticed. Personally, I think that's much less invasive. For what it's worth, the 'cattle pen' set-up is really only noticeable late at night when it's very busy. During the afternoon and even early evening, it's not rare to be the only couple in the CR, giving you complete privacy. Whenever another couple comes in, they generally take a booth on the other side of the CR - never right nearby another couple. While I did enjoy working at the Barefax and their more private CRs, they had a lot more 'funny business' going on. In my summer there, I had exponentially more attempts of sexually related abuses than I have ever had in my 2 years at Barb's. I had even less during my few months at the NuDen, and at the time they had very open dance booths. As a dancer, feeling safe is important to me and lets me enjoy what I do. While attempts of sexually related abuses are rare at Barb's, it's still reassuring to know that it wouldn't be hard for the bouncer to notice and help me put a stop to it if someone was getting particularly forceful. Just to give a perspective from the dancer end.

Sadly I think the time is near.......

Regarding incest, it's all about historical context; taboo by today's standards, but in ancient Egypt--the best form of marriage was brother-sister. Honestly when it comes to adults, if consent is given, I don't give two shits what you want to do.

As has been said, outcalls are legal, no issue there so going to your place is legal You may have to provide verification information (real name, board handle confirmed by pm, reference, email address and phone number, possibly where you work and work number too) As for communication, spend a few bucks on a pay as you go disposable cell phone. The phone doesn't need all the bells and whistles, just phone and text capability, and can cost around $100.00 Only thing, just my opinion, text the lady, don't phone her, she may have family, friends, or clients when you call and can't answer. But a text she can answer later RG

One wish ....for everyone in this world to get along and be kind to each other :) Peace and Tranquility

My Christmas wish is for my friend with the brain tumor to come through surgery Friday with a positive outcome. Anything else this season would be a bonus.

My unrealistic wish-to have my dad back my realistic wish-that I get away safely, no major storms, to visit with family and friends.:icon_biggrin:

I searched for a thread on this topic and surprisingly couldn't find one, and it's definitely one that (sadly) needs to be addressed. Lately, I have been hearing some appalling things from ladies I speak to: and that is, some gentlemen have been sharing information about ladies location. I am just floored that someone would think this is information to share. Where a lady works from, whether it is an apartment/condo/house/hotel, is information that should always remain private. If you see a lady in an apartment/condo, and happen to have seen another lady in the same building: it's NOT your business to tell either of them that the other lady is in the same building as they are. If you see a lady in a hotel where you've seen others: it's not your business to tell her that 'so-and-so lady' also works from that hotel. If your buddy works close to a lady, and you want to recommend her: maybe say that she's works very close...but do NOT say 'Hey she works in the building right next to you!' Many women work out of their home. This is their private life. And even if they rent a separate work apartment, or work in a hotel, it is not up to you to disclose this information to anyone, ever. Telling other people puts her safety at stake. And could put her in compromising or embarrassing situations. The ONLY way you should know where a lady works from is when she tells you herself. Please, always remember what business we are in. Discretion is the ultimate key to happy, safe, encounters. There is never a need to share someone's personal information with others. Thank you.

Well the Ontario Provincial Police, and their municipal counterparts have added some new crimes to the umbrella of "serious crimes". Guess what is now considered as a "serious crime"? Yep, prostitution. What does this mean for most of us? Nothing at all, really. Law enforcement are solely concerned with street girls, pimps, bawdy houses/brothels, and other indiscreet forms of an otherwise respectable vocation. No need to get spooked by this, but there is an increasing need to make sure the lady/ladies you see are of good repute, and conduct their business with discretion. Law enforcement seem to have a good understanding of the difference between an escort and a prostitute - the differences namely being class and discretion. Posted via Mobile Device

The question is open to both hobbyists and the ladies alike. I like many others spend a lot of time on CERB looking at photo albums, icons, attachements links, etc. For the purpose of this thread I would like to focus on the on photo albums posted by the ladies. Each one of us likely has many things they look for in these great albums and enjoy either for brousing, determining which lady they might like to visit or a myriad of other reasons. Please share three things you look for in an album and perhaps why. They don't have to be in any order of priority, just relevant - for me, they include: 1. Physical presence - I love the confident look of a lady who takes care of herself, presents herself well and it shows. 2. Smiles - I may be in a minority here but I really like seeing the ladies smile whether by upturns at the corners of the mouth, smiling eyes or photo accents, props, etc. 3. Quality of the photos - I really enjoy photos that show that some thought has been put in to the individual shots and the theme of the overall album. They don't have to be professionally done, but I enjoy nice clear shots, well lit, focussed and inviting. What are some of your thoughts?

'Twas shortly 'ere Christmas, when all through Cerbland Not a client was stirring, not even Cometman; The research was done by many with care, In hopes that SP's soon would be there; The men were all nestled all snug in their ways, With visions of SP's coming their way; And Mod sat in his den, and I in my home, I just settled down to write a silly old poem; When out in Cerbland there arose such a clatter, Mod sprang to his office to see what was the matter. Away to the keyboard he flew like a flash, Threw open his windows and called up the cache; The peace in Cerbland from the newly written posts Gave him pause to reflect on Cerb, coast to coast, When, what to his eyes on the screen did appear, But a cute little image with eight tiny reindeer; With a little old driver, Lee Richards he thought, But surely it can't be, it must really be not? But more rapid than rep points, Lee's coursers they came, And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name; "Now, Gabby! Now, Katherine! Now, Emily and Cat! On, Meg! On Angela! Penelope and Nat! To the East coast we go! Let's go all the way! mrrnice is awaiting ,we mustn't delay!! As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky, So off to the coast the coursers they flew, Some an acquaintance to make and for some to renew. And then, in a jiffy Mod saw on the screen, Good golly not eight but t'was really eighteen Samantha and Sarah, VJ, Sophia, Isabella and Cleo and could that be Malika? mrrnice dressed in fur, from his head to his feet, His arms opened wide so all he could greet; A bundle of toys he flung to the girls, The vibes and the eggs they each had a whirl. His eyes -- how they twinkled! his dimples how merry! His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry! His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow, And both he and Lee had a toast to the show; He was happy and smiled, just like an old elf, And Mod laughed when he saw him, in spite of himself; A wink of his eye and a twist of his head, Gave Mod to know he had nothing to dread; MN spoke not a word, but went straight to the flock, And hugged each one tightly while having a talk, Then waving his hand he laughed and he said, Have a great flight home its time for my bed; Then Lee sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But Lee heard from behind, ere they drove out of sight, "HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD-NIGHT!" Apologies to Clement Clark Moore, original author!

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Shows/Shows/The+Passionate+Eye/ID/2314258771/

I think that I have a nice round booty... :butt:

I just read about this now.... moments ago I turned and took a long look at my four year old daughter and .... Wow !!! A well of emotion.... I can't imagine what those folks are going through :(

I guess its all in the way that you read it. From what I've read in comments from the site ect, its seems like a pretty even split of people who feel like it Wasn't about trying to gain sympathy for the rapist and people who feel like it was. I think when writing anything on the internet you should always go into it with the idea, how can this be taken wrongly by anyone because (as proven on this site amongst others) the absoulte worst possible intention will be made out of it and people will be offended. People love to be offended over the internet. Read the comments section of the most innocuous article and its obvious. In the case of this article which is about a very, very sensetive topic people can take anything they want and make almost any point they want out of context for either side. I agree with you that anyone who tries to ellict sympathy for a RAPIST (not neccesarrily a man) is usually misguided and in most cases wrong but there arew situations where I do feel sympathy for a rapist. I used to work with at risk youth. The stories I've heard and some of the learned behaviors that have come out of awful situations are terrible. There is no black and white when it comes to life. There are a lot of shades of grey. Posted via Mobile Device

food, sleep, food, sleep in that order.

I find the post vague as the poster is listed as a service provider but seems to be asking about free swingers play... cat

Decorating the Tree Mulled apple cider The smell of Christmas dinner Bing Crosby singing White Christmas Watching the Grinch on t.v. .... and as many have said ... snow! Porthos

I recommend a # of song check after three or four songs to prevent any confusion or misunderstanding. If your like me, I lose count when I get lost in the moment. Ultimately, if you can do it, I feel it is best to agree on a charge for 30 mins or agree on an hourly charge at around 300 $. Still a good deal at 60 mins divided by 4 mins per song as many songs are just over 3 minutes. This way you can enjoy quality time and some shenanigans for an hour without the trouble of counting. Sometimes I prefer a bit of cuddling in leu of a song....:)

In general, read her ads, look at her website, and see how she wants to be contacted. If she has multiple options, choose the one that suits you best. If you don't like the options available for some reason, see someone else instead. It's safe enough if you put a condom over the phone. (sorry, couldn't resist that) Seriously, phoning someone is fine (unless your SO walks into the room at the wrong moment...) Legal. I have to ask - why on earth not? Get one. Buy the cheapest pay-as-you-go you can find. Buy the $100 top-up cards so that you only have to remember to do this once per year. Hide the phone if necessary. If a phone number is provided then I'll call it unless the ad/website says "text only". If she can't talk for some reason she'll either not answer, or the phone will already be turned off. If that happens, don't expect her to call back unless you leave a message saying that it's OK to do so (and when). No SP wants to call a (potential) client while the SO is around...

It works for me. Saw that yellow thing next to my User CP, clicked and here I was......... Not sure how long we have had this chat room but this evening was my first time in the chat room after almost 5 year here I didn't know about me!!!!!. I chatted and greeted by The General, Emily PKJason and Stunning Tasha in just the few minutes I was there. It was fun. You likely will see me there more often :).

The blonde hair looks amazing!

The loophole right now is that the criminal code that this falls under is being questioned in Ontario so the police forces are really turning a blind eye to it all from the looks of it until the higher powers get something done. The law still stands so you can still be charged but I doubt any judge would hear the case till the laws are adjusted. Is it illegal right now? Very much so. If prostitution takes place in any PLACE (even a hotel room) it could technically be considered a bawdy house. (if you only saw ONE client at the hotel room then left it is no longer "common" so that makes it legal. (Multiple people working from the SAME hotel room however... instant brothel technically). Swingers clubs is a loophole that some massage like places capitalize on... It is legal to charge a membership fee but if sexual acts are taking place the people participating in the sexual acts can not be doing it for financial gain (prostitution) swingers clubs are only legal if the members are not negotiating paid services. For instance if you had MEMBERS ONLY swingers party and everyone paid a "membership fee" and consenting adults had sexual conduct during this party without exchanging money... that is legal (it's the prostitution part of hosting events that is illegal). You just need to be careful with that too as say you hire a "hostess" or "host" and that hostess is paid by you (the even organizer) and the hostess or host get involved in any sexual activity then that could be seen as prostitution making the entire party illegal. I do not believe the event organizer can participate or pay anyone involved in any sexual act.... but I am no lawyer so this is something you would want to discuss with a lawyer first if you are concerned with legalities of such an event.

I am outcall only to my home and as it was said it is legal. As for safety, it depends. If you are limiting yourself to cerb providers it is relatively safe though if you extend your providers to those indies (if they are really indies) on BP for variety (as I do) then it may not be safe for total strangers visiting your private home especially if someone is waiting outside for her or in the lobby so screen them out carefully before deciding. For agencies, those established agencies advertising on BP like PKE, EH, MB, ALLD ..... are safe to call too. For those agencies advertising on the notorious site (OatN) be extra careful and screen them also carefully. As for how to contact, On cerb, I usually contact them via PM and my only concern is to find out if we are compatible for a date. On BP if email available I contact them via email with lots of questions and then call them with more questions and add conditions there for the date to go ahead to ensure safety and legality. Whenever you call them, do not block your call. This sends red flag to providers. Remember they take much higher risks than you when they come over to your place.

Woke up this morning and could see the growth in our new puppy, Buddy! He's going to be MASSIVE. And he's doing so well with his housetraining and getting to know what's what around here. (And yes, I know. At 12 weeks, I shouldn't crow too much yet. Still a lot of Puppy of Mass Destruction ahead of us. But for now, I'm thrilled!)

That sucks! Last time I saw that happen was in Vancouver restaurant in the ladies room and it was Tori Spelling who dropped her phone in there! She gave a woman $100 to fish it out! lol. Good luck with your new upgrade! xo

I was there yesterday and no Maya. Do not know what Olivia looks like.

Just got our first snow here the other day :D I was all excited. First thing I wanted to do was pop on CERB and tell every body lol. but where School was canceled I used my little helper to decorate the tree. For the first Time in a very Long time I have a real tree, and Christmas ornaments. I moved around to much before to bother buying any just to store but I've been in this place for almost 2 years now its about time to acquire such things :) For days I've been decorating and wrapping gifts. I'm actually excited for Christmas this year, all just to see the happy faces on the people I love I usually like to buy a bunch of toys to donate them too. they're usually ones I think are cool or fun but my son or niece and nephew wouldn't like. Like Barbies, my niece was a Brats doll girl so I would purchase pretty barbies and donate them. Or board games. they're not gender specific. I haven't gotten to this yet this year though. Its on my to do list, right up there with a donation for the spca. I usually go to their booth to have my gifts wrapped but I did it myself this year :)

Yes, but is life really worth living that long if you can't eat meat? I'd much rather live large and go out in a blaze of glory than live for a really long time and be unhappy because I have to eat rabbit food all the time. But that's me.

I booked my grandmother a flight to Ottawa so she can spend part of Holidays with me :) She loves coming in the region!

I know her personally and she is and always will be worth everything as she is one of the best. she is tall,beautiful and very intelligent :) I hope she comes back to Fredericton and can't wait until she does if she is coming :)

Two beardy guys getting married in Washington State Now I am totally imagining them drinking scotch, with a monocle, wearing a top hat saying "quite exquisite"

For a man in a suit...and not a Santa suit! :wink: Okay, seriously, for a safe trip home for everyone if traveling back home, including me (and for all to have a merry Christmas because I know it is not always a --merry-- holiday for all) Xo

Waking up at 10:30 a.m. because I'm on VACATION!

Hey Stan :-) I do offer daty. Actully its part of my favorite time ahahahaha :-) I love to cum few time a day hehe xoxoxx have a great day

I would like to say sorry to mod and those that saw a pic I posted here the other day that had an infant in it. The pic was harmless and just meant as good fun. I didn't realize I was breaking any rules and I would truly like to apologize to mod and everyone. The post was not meant to offend anyone and if I did, I'm very sorry. It won't happen again. Sincerely, MB

go into private browsing before accessing your favourite sites. Then no record should be kept. Just remember to exit private browsing when you're done. Porthos

Visions of Black lingerie...

Ordered this online this morning.

I think that one thing to keep in mind is that most providers who ask for a reference also have alternative screening methods if a reference isn't possible. So it's not quite the roadblock some have made it out to be. I would also say that it is not the case that providers who ask for a reference are not also paying attention to tone, manner, wording, etc. I do not believe most SPs substitute a reference for their own impressions, so I find it odd that it's presented as though there's this dichotomy - either she uses her gut or gets a reference. A reference isn't an excuse not to think for yourself. I'm sure most girls know that. But as to why they would be requested at all, I think that a very good explanation has been given already for why travelling providers use them, but I would also point out that references can be very helpful to someone new to the industry. It's fine to say that we can go by our gut alone, but generally it takes some experience to hone our instinct. Instinct is not some magical talent that some people have, it's not a sixth sense. It is data gathering and pattern recognition most of the time. It takes time to gather enough data to start spotting patterns and figuring out what sounds like a time-waster and who sounds like bad news. We've all interacted with people all our lives so we don't come at this with no data. But for most girls this is still a new way of interacting with people so they need time to learn. In the meantime, references are a second opinion that can help you figure out if your impressions are correct or not. I know that some people are proponents of the school of hard-knocks, but I think in this business the knocks can be pretty hard. For those who are not so new that continue to ask for references, I would simply say why not, if it has always worked for them? For many gentleman, obviously, it is not seen a hoop to jump through so there is no particular reason for them to change a working model. And, as I mentioned, most will offer to screen by more old-school methods if a reference isn't available. But honestly, the whole debate about references only applies to providers who do advance bookings. I don't see how a provider who takes short-notice bookings could ever be expected to contact and hear back from a reference in time. So I think there are just as many valid arguments to be made for not using a reference. I don't think anyone should be judged for using references, as though they are failing to use their own good sense and are making clients jump through hoops, nor do I believe it's ever fair to insinuate that a provider who doesn't require them is being reckless. I also believe that there are reasons a provider would choose not to give references as a policy. I won't go into them in detail, some have been mentioned, but I don't think it's really necessary to defend. CERB is very positive and I love that things can be discussed and debated but I get a bit frustrated, or maybe dismayed, to see people put down for their preferred (and effective) methods of screening a client.

Those who know me well, can confirm...DATY and doggie (in that order, lol)

a FS SP.....

^^ when I read that it reminded me of another solution: lock em down after the OP. That way no one would be able to add a reply of any kind, which would be completely fair to all and ensures all recos will remain in chronological order as well. Also means that if someone else saw the sp, the only way he can acknowledge that is to write his own reco. I think it was mentioned before that if anyone feels the need to thank or comment or otherwise acknowledge the reviewer posting in the first place, there is the reputation comments for that even in closed threads.

Ladies have proven again and again that they are in many ways smarter in mind, bigger in heart and more beautiful in body and soul. They are also sources of life without them none of us would have been here in this world. They enjoy life and sex as much as we do. They are treasures and deserve our utmost respect. They are totally capable of doing every task that a man can do including sports and the military and they do it using both mind and heart. Your shallow comments comes at an unfortunate time when many millions of ladies are fighting hard for equality and their basic human rights all over the world and are being jailed and worse for simply asking for what is rightfully theirs. That is equal rights.