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"There is something beautiful about all scars of whatever nature. A scar means the hurt is over, the wound is closed and healed, done with." -Harry Crews, novelist and playwright (b. 1935) I ran across this quote and thought it would resonate with various folk.

To everyone here. Over the past weeks I've posted about my dad's cancer. I have received in many PM's, comments, posts etc words of sympathy and support. I just wanted to say thank you all for your support. It really is appreciated This board is much more than an escort board, it truly is a community Again to all of you out in CERBLand, your collective support is appreciated more than you know Thank you RG

The replies so far do a bang-up job of answering your question. I'll just reiterate that: - pursuing special interests is extremely common - you should briefly explain your interest during your initial inquiry; and - worst case, she'll say "no, sorry, I don't do that" but she won't judge. When describing your interest give enough information to let her know clearly what you're after, but not so much that you're writing amateur porn. ;) Something like: "Hi! My name is [name], I'm [gender] and [age]. I saw your ad on CERB and I'm considering making an appointment with you soon. I have a real fetish for X, and during our session I'd like to try doing Y and Z involving X. Is that possible? If so, an appointment lasting [duration] on [date] from #:00 to #:00 would work well for me. I hope we can meet, and I look forward to hearing back from you." If her answer is "yes" you can always provide some more detail about X, Y, and Z in a follow-up before finalizing the appointment. She may even have some suggestions to add, or questions of her own. Then you're off to the races. Good luck and have lots and lots of fun!

I have more scars than I can count! 99% of them are from combat. They are a reminder of everything I've been through and each one has a story to be told behind it. I've always felt scars are part of the story of someone's life and something to proud of.

Well after dealing with the Passport Canada bureaucrat from hell who said I wasn't a Canadian citizen and tried to get rid of me, and that was on Dec 31st...I now just today received my passport. Only thing, I was hoping to bump up my visit to see dad next week, but he goes to the Moffitt Centre (specializes in cancer treatment) in Tampa Florida on Monday so he asked if my original travel plans could be kept On an upnote, he seems positive again, and maybe this centre can treat him...keeping my fingers crossed and praying But all things considered, this seems like a highlight RG

Thinking of you and your family, RG, and wishing for peace and trust for everyone. We haven't been able to meet in person, yet, but I'm confident that your warmth, generosity and compassion are even greater in person than they are online. I'm sure your father is proud that you're his son.

Tonyb, it's only appropriate to speak about our individual, personal experiences, so it's unlikely that you'll get meaningful replies to your queries. Moreover, this is personal information that many people would not want to disclose to strangers on a public forum. If you're interested in convictions related to prostitution, keeping a bawdy house and so on, you might search the Canadian Legal Information Institute database which provides links to judgments that have been made in the provincial courts and the Supreme Court of Canada.

What you may have Sophia is called Seasonal Affective Disorder, a reason for that is that days or shorter (Dec. 21 the shortest day of the year), keep your chin up the days are getting longer everyday now. It could be a lack of sun(vitamins), have you tried light therapy? Or even go outside on a bright sunny day(if there is any) and go for a walk specially early in the morning, you do not need to look at the light or the sun but the rest of your body does. Just trying to help!

I've seen Claire a number of times over the past year and it's no surprise she has so many recommendations. She's very attractive and playful but one thing stands out: Claire's really happy to be there with you. It's a small thing but you feel it in so many ways. She's always happy, she's always with you. And sensually, she really enjoys giving and receiving pleasure: you know she wants to make you feel great and a big part of that is making her feel great too. I always feel good after seeing her. I'm just another guy so this isn't special treatment, it's just who she is. A happy, friendly, playful, giving woman. :bowdown:

The trapped killer whales-it is not looking good for them . I pray they'll survive.

Cerb seams to be back to normal - Speed wise (Some new features have been added as I did a update to the software that runs cerb and it has some socialgroup features we did not have before) If anyone is getting any errors, seeing things missing or anything bad happening please PM me and let me know (Details please with links if possible) I am fixing the stuff as it is reported or found... lots of things were broken in the last 5 days that I have had to fix but it does look like we are back to at least 95% power / speed for page load times. (always room for improvement) Thank you all for baring with me I know the site has been very unstable for the last few days (So have I been! - Little sleep deprived)

I know some of this has been covered here already, and I just posted this to the other board also, but I thought it could be a useful reminder here too. Knowledge is power (and health!) :) ______________ As part of some New Years resolutions, some people are thinking about their health and taking it more seriously. Well, sexual health is a very important part of that, and something that should be taken seriously all year round :) Getting tested is very important for hobbyists too! Many of the most common STI's (particularly in men) have no symptoms!! Treatment for the most common STI's is usually quite simple and effective, often with one dose of antibiotic. Left untreated can lead to serious complications. The Ottawa Sexual Health Centre is THE BEST place to go for this because this is their area of speciality and they will order all the proper testing. You need: urine samples, blood tests and throat swabs to be given a complete sexual bill of health. The Sexual Health Centre's testing is anonymous, you don't have to give your real name, and you do not need to provide a health card. There are different ways to get your results, but generally you give a phone number and if they don't call you, your tests have not shown any problems. (No news is good news!) The Sexual Health Centre has more than one location, as they offer satellite clinics throughout the city on various days of the week. Locations and hours here: http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/public...-health-centre For example, I always go to the Barrhaven clinic, I get there right when they open at 2:30, and I have never had to wait more than 10 minutes to see the nurse. If you are worried about discretion this is perfect, because they host the clinic within another regular Health Clinic (so you could be there for any number of things). To make it eve more discreet, you can go to a location in a different part of the city than where you live/work. The nurses at these clinics are very friendly, non-judgemental, knowledgeable on sexual health, and are happy to answer any questions you may have. I recommend the Ottawa Sexual Health Clinic above a regular health clinic or your family doctor, because they know all the exact testing you need and specialize in this area. For your own sake, and the benefit of the Escort/Hobbyist community, Please get tested regularly! :biggrin: Thank you!

Hey! kinda dull on here tongiht and I wanted to spur a conversation. Here is a list of the ladies i've seen and ladies i'd like to see. 1. Porclin Punk 2. Exotic Touch Danniele 3. Exotic Bobbi 4. Lily Flower It's kind of strange out of that list three are no longer local or have retired... All 4 are good SP's that I would totally recommend! On a go forward here is a list of ladies I would like to meet up with; 1. Emily Wilson 2. Daisy (she is on CL & BP I probably won't try until a senior member here does a reco) 3. Keely (same deal as Daisy I think they might actually work for the same provider) 4. Fiesty Ferrari 5. Liegha Lane 6. AlysonNS I find that I have to be really comforatable with an SP advertising for awhile and having good feedback from cerb members before I am willing to meet. I'm super causous and find sometimes by the time I feel comforatbale enought to move forward they have either moved away or stopped advertising. It;s a bummer I always wanted to meet Brittany from a year or two ago she was also preg for awhile and wanted to try that but now she is nowhere to be seen. Whos next?

Well I've got the ol' tummy stretchmarks from having had kids... I have long ago left behind any stigmas I had about having them, simply because: I am a goddamn tiger who earned her stripes!

One hella fine specimen ...

Wether they are intentional or unintentional they are part of you and they make you unique. Their story is for you to share or not to share and part of your journey to becoming "you". Others may look at them and see them as ugly, some may not notice some may find beauty in them but what is important in the end , for all of us is how we see our selves. Sometimes when we become externally marred our internal being grows stronger, more accepting, understanding-beautiful and imperfections can be more appealing sometimes then perfections.

You were correct. I have scars rather then tattoos. Not that I went out and planned to get them. Each one has a funny or fugly story behind them. And generally a lesson on how to be more careful when handling sharp, heavy, radioactive, flammable, explosive, toxic things while standing on the "Do Not Stand" part of a ladder.

:vl:Every year like most of us, I am having a " Winter Blues" week Duuno know why?? Or What...but it is there! I find it rather annoying, as I am a cheerful and possitive type thinker:) I have gone for tans, which always cheers me up:) An 8 min tan, and I am good to go for 2 days!, lol.. I eat well...have awsome sex life, but yet, I still feel the Winter Blues! What is it?? More snow this year? Are there others who feel this...this year?? What are your Winter Blues solutions??

I've heard & seen fucking machines. I wonder if there are blowjob machines? Interesting concept. Maybe I should invent one?

I don't like when sps are trying to solicit business with randomly sending out texts and it is hard to imagine there is any other reason for them to do it. I think we are limited to placing our ads and REPLYING to queries, whether by text, email, pm, chat or phone, and not to initiate any kind of contact. Always excepting the client who has made it clear he wants that sort of connection of course. I think of it this way, texts are more like making phone calls than they are like sending an email. I know that a client keeps his emails private and is only going to read them when he is alone. Texts are not private, they just spring up on the phone. Anyone is able to read that, a co worker, a family member, or a stranger is they were in the right place at the right time. Not only that, but the texts hang around forever until deleted. Something that can be checked and read by anyone anytime, hours or days later. I think that someone who would say they wouldn't dream of phoning a client out of the blue two weeks after having met them for the first time, would think nothing of sending a text. But they should think of the text in exactly the same way as they think of making a voice call. Or even more like, walking up to him while he is sitting in a cafe with other people and saying hello, when are you coming to see me again. In many ways, sending a text is exactly like that.

This is how Emma ended up in Montreal !!! True story ;) One hundred Cape Bretoners are travelling on a bus heading towards Edmonton, AB, they pass a sign by Montreal that says Maximum 90, so 10 of them jump out. Emma jumped first............. ps....She loves me !!! Right Emma ??? Emma !! ??? ha Right the topic....Brandon ! We have a Five Guys burger joint !!

For the not so good part of this post.. having to hear two orange tabby cats ( one being my own) going at it at 11 Pm on a fence. He is so God damn territorial at times. And for the highlight of the day.. Realizing that I have a pretty good arm for pitching when the only way to get them to stop was to throw a snowball in their direction from the door hitting the fence right under them only to see my cat jump in 3 ft of snow and see all 15 bs of him wade through all that snow while he was playing in it. He's so cute and little shit disturber at the same time!

Just wanted to say that my prayers and thoughts are with you. I can relate to what you are going through as I recently lost my dad after a month long hospital stay and if it wasn't for some fine folks from here on cerb, I think I would have lost my mind. I agree that this is a great community and we will stick with you every step of the way, RG. Take care of yourself so you can be there for your family.

L is for licking

K is for kolpophobia something hopefully no one here has RG

If there's someone who interests you but doesn't seem to offer the things you're looking for, consider asking anyway. There are many reasons for not advertising some activities, including creating a perception that the we only engage in kinky play, that we're happy to do something frequently or several times a day or a week, or that those activities are always available without making arrangements ahead of time. You should always feel free to change your mind once things get underway, too. Don't feel that, because you'd expected to do something, you're required to do it! Needs and desires shift and change depending on comfort level, mood and other things. Changing your mind the first time doesn't mean you shouldn't try again another time. However, if your companion has agreed to do something, or that she'll try to do it, she should be willing to fulfill the agreement. If she's not able to accommodate your request for some reason--perhaps she was spanked yesterday and is worried that any more of that today will cause bruising, for example--she should let you know before the meeting begins.

I enjoy the pretty yellow blooms of a big canola field in the summer :) Then in the fall I harvest it and make money ;) I like that too !

2 words: search tool If someone hasn't already asked your question, that will be what shocks me most.

I received a pm from a very special lady to inform me that she is reopening her in-call spot. Hooray!!! Additional Comments: Just noticed I've hit 200 posts. Yay!!

For me, I follow the rule of ratio of weight to colour. If my balls start to drag on the ground or turn a bright blue, then I know I need to conduct some business. I like to leave a little room in my pant legs to allow for some "droppage". If the junk starts to interfere with other pedestrians or get caught up in the snow blower, that's a clear signal I need to consult a professional. The other side of the equation is what I like to call: "The Shining". The Shining is most noticeable in the dark. You can actually see a couple of darling & tender fur covered nads hovering over (if not actually laying on) the floor. Please don't mistake them for rodents and try to stomp on 'em. They belong to someone - most likely me. I wish my hair stylist could address this issue for me, but I live in an uptight suburb.

Excellent post Pistol Pete and I agree in all respects. Another thing I thought I should mention.. Please don't text an SP out of the blue without the intention of booking an appt and wanting to get into long texts or sextexting. I've had people attempt to do this and puts the SP in an awkward position and I am the one who has to take the upper hand and shut it down. I'm not interested in doing that and if I were, I'd be working a 1-900 number. Thanks for your consideration.

As Mod said it "Has nothing to do with reputation. Police act on public complaints." That's why clients should be discrete when they're coming and going. If you don't draw attention to yourself, you don't draw attention to your service provider.

Usually SPs and MAs have a business phone and a private phone. I usually check with a lady I like to repeat with if texting during posted working hours is OK. If I haven't met a lady I'll initiate with a PM, Email or phone call. Unsolicited texts from SPs not appreciated as my phone is not just for hobbying.

They say that the problem with common sense is that it is not that common. I have often found this to be true.

This is true... but it doesn't mean these threads are a waste of time. Not everyone who does this does it because they don't care - I'm sure some just don't know any better. If one SP who's starting out reads this thread and refrains from embarrassing one of her clients, it'll have been worthwhile, even though we'll probably never know. And sometime down the line it'll be worth someone else saying exactly the same as PP did, so that the message can reach a new audience. So it goes... and this applies just as much to the threads about things that guys do which annoy the ladies. The simple fact is that this game we're all playing has a fairly high turnover rate, and there's new people starting from scratch on both sides of it all the time. We all benefit if we can avoid at least some people making some of the common mistakes. I know I've benefited from not making them :)

I don't mind initial contact via text, and even a few questions back and forth, but if it goes on much longer than 5 or 6 texts, I do ask the person to call me because otherwise I could find myself texting all day. If I don't get to the phone and see a text that was sent more than half an hour ago, I will not respond unless I recognize the number and know it's safe to text back. By then, you could be in the car with your SO, daughter, etc. However, if you want to book an appointment, you must call me to do so, as I do not book by text and never give my exact address out ahead of time. I don't know if it's some teenager or jealous spouse who has gotten a hold of a client's phone. Since I don't require references and go mainly with my gut feeling, this is a minimal part of my screening requirements - that is to say I must hear the caller's voice. Like I said, once we have met and you want to rebook, texting only is fine, but I also do not expect the client to just show up at my door either. They must go to the visitor parking and call from there. I would NEVER text a client out of the blue for whatever reason, even if we have a good connection. It's tacky and not very discrete. However, that being said, I do have a few male cerb members who I am friends with who I text with to say hi, but I have their explicit permission to do so because I know they are single/unattached etc. and they know they can do the same with me. Pete, I agree. There is nothing so urgent that cannot be said in a quick pm or email, especially if it's after-the-fact. You are not being unreasonable at all, asking that you not be contacted out the blue. It's just good manners not to do so. The ladies who do that perpetuate the stereotype that some of us are desperate with no manners which is unfortunate.

Thanks for starting this thread. I'm also a new guy and looking to get into this hobby. I'm not at all afraid to say that I'm completely chicken to see it through just yet, mainly because of the legalities surrounding it. Reading through everyone's posts makes me feel much better about eventually taking part as well as offers great insight in what is proper protocol. Now, once I learn all of the acronyms I'll be set! So once again thanks and hi everyone! :)

Never, ever, ever too old, unless you've let yourself think you are. And even the most mature escorts will always find some clients particularly interested in what they have to offer. Although I haven't seen it much in Canada, I've seen some escorts in their 60s on some British sites. They clearly feel sexy about themselves, and that alone makes them genuinely sexy. Some are slim and pretty and look younger than their years; others are more matronly, wonderfully self-possessed, and clearly still having fun and enjoying their sexuality. (Not only are they simply sexy women, but for the latter type there's an element of "proper lady isn't so proper after all", and that has its own appeal. Some revel in old-style, full-fashioned underthings, evoking the traditionally unavailable mature ladies from our youth now made available...) I'd book time with them in an instant. I rather wish we had the same thing here.

Solicitation in the context of prostitution law means communication in a public place. The courts have ruled that private communication is excluded. Defining public versus private communication is dependant upon the means of communication and/or the place where the communication takes place. Offering, discussing or negotiating compensation (financial or otherwise) in a public place (street, park, bar, hotel lobby etc) is solicitation. It doesn't matter that only two people are participating in the discussion and that no one else hears or observes the discussion. The communication is occurring in a public place. E-mail, snail mail, texting, phone, skype, talking in your home or a hotel room are all private communications. Offering, discussing or negotiating compensation for sex in these situations is legal. These communications are all taking place in private spaces or are communications to which only the particpants have legal access. It's possible that the privacy of these communications may be violated by a third party, but that doesn't make them public communication (i.e solicitation). It just means that the third party has violated your privacy, which depending upon the facts can be a criminal offence. Communication involving more than two people (e.g. negotiatiatung a threesome or an orgy :-)) is still private communication. It doesn't matter how many people participate in the communication. What matters for the purposes of solicitation is how and where the communication occurs. So, communicating by privately by e-mail (legal) and then meeting in public without any further discussion of compensation (legal) is not a problem. I've never heard of the police action which was described as taking place in Halifax. There may be more to it. This tactic has been used to arrest men who have been seeking underage girls, for free or paid sex. If it involved adults it sounds like entrapment, which is an illegal police tactic and would explain why there haven't been any similar cases.

as others have said, prostitution is not illegal in Canada. Various acts around the sex trade, however, are or may be. So public solicitation is illegal. This really only applies to the street trade, which you should stay away from in any event. Being found in a common bawdy house (a place routinely used for prostitution) is an offence under the criminal code. So technically that makes incalls (you visit the lady at her location ... whether it be an apartment, condo, or hotel room) potentially illegal. However, if you stick to well respected ladies, this isn't a problem. Generally the police are interested in incalls only if there are other issues: underaged girls, reports of drug use, disturbances, neighbour. complaints, etc. An Ontario court, however, has ruled that the Bawdy house provisions of the Criminal Code are unconstitutional, although this is being appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada. So the law in this area is a bit up in the air. So it is quite clear, that outcalls to your location are 100% legal in Canada. Incalls with respected ladies are not a problem. If the lady is operating out of hotels, make sure she is working out of a respectable hotel, rather than some dive. In my area there are a couple of hotels known for having lots of working girls, associated drug use, pimps, and general problems. Not necessarily unusual to have visits from the police in these locations. As has been suggested, stick to the wonderful women of CERB and you'll have no problems.

Just want to post a quick note of thanks to Madison Sparks and Goombata for the toughtful and generous advice. I have tried numerous times to post and respond to PMs with lengthy messages and I have been booted off the server too many times, (lol). Anyway, this is great advice from both of you, and again, many thanks! xo

Just a note to all people who have created a social group(s). Personally I'm liking these new changes and I'm really digging the fact that we can now create multiple threads going on within a social group. Very cool stuff!! One new option I'm particularly fond of is that you can add a "Group Icon" picture (ie, profile pic) identifying your group which makes it much easier to spot....and also makes it more aesthetically pleasing to the eye, making it more likely that a non-member who is just randomly scrolling through groups, may be more inclined to check it out and see what it's all about! Emily J has added one to her Oral Lovers group and I have added ones to the groups which I have created. You simply go to your group's main page, scroll to the bottom and you will see the "Edit Group" option. Scroll down and you will see "Edit Group Icon" where you will have the option of uploading a pic. Keep in mind though that I believe these "Group Icons" are visible to all cerb members.....I could be wrong but I believe this to be the case even for the private groups.....so the group icon pic should be cerb friendly (ie, no genitals or sexual acts being portrayed). Happy cerb-ing everyone!

I had the opportunity to finally meet Malika, when she was here in Ottawa late last week.We greeted each other with a warm embrace, and kiss hello. It really did not take us long to spark up some conversation, get comfortable with each other, then of course I stripped and headed for the shower ;) After coming out the shower there was really nice sensual DFK, and then some oral for her, I kinda really enjoyed listening to Malika swear in french, moan, swear some more, clinch her fist and turn real red in the face and hit that plateau. It wasn't long before she had to have her way with me, and I must say, this lady is very orally gifted, she really knows how to pleasure her man. We used multiple positions after her long oral foreplay for me, I really enjoyed Malika riding me on top, then reverse we finished off in mish, and what a ride and again I loved her facial expressions of enjoyment being pleasured. Plus me viewing her sex bum when she was in reverse cowgirl was awesome :) We laid down after, my 1st SOG, chatted, stroked each other, she told lots about her travels past and present coming up. It was not long before a deep kiss, a lot more stroking and then some of her gifted oral again on me, it took all of 20 seconds and I was hard as rock for our 2nd round, of positions, and I also must admit that Malika is very flexible, and I enjoyed moving her around in positions that made her swear a little more, and I enjoyed listening to that. It was about time the two of us met and I'm glad I did, when she returns to Ottawa gentlemen, make sure you visit her, she is fun, and very gifted. :) Thanks Malika !

thanks Cat, I was kind of wondering about that myself (being new to this and all).

I think that one thing to keep in mind is that most providers who ask for a reference also have alternative screening methods if a reference isn't possible. So it's not quite the roadblock some have made it out to be. I would also say that it is not the case that providers who ask for a reference are not also paying attention to tone, manner, wording, etc. I do not believe most SPs substitute a reference for their own impressions, so I find it odd that it's presented as though there's this dichotomy - either she uses her gut or gets a reference. A reference isn't an excuse not to think for yourself. I'm sure most girls know that. But as to why they would be requested at all, I think that a very good explanation has been given already for why travelling providers use them, but I would also point out that references can be very helpful to someone new to the industry. It's fine to say that we can go by our gut alone, but generally it takes some experience to hone our instinct. Instinct is not some magical talent that some people have, it's not a sixth sense. It is data gathering and pattern recognition most of the time. It takes time to gather enough data to start spotting patterns and figuring out what sounds like a time-waster and who sounds like bad news. We've all interacted with people all our lives so we don't come at this with no data. But for most girls this is still a new way of interacting with people so they need time to learn. In the meantime, references are a second opinion that can help you figure out if your impressions are correct or not. I know that some people are proponents of the school of hard-knocks, but I think in this business the knocks can be pretty hard. For those who are not so new that continue to ask for references, I would simply say why not, if it has always worked for them? For many gentleman, obviously, it is not seen a hoop to jump through so there is no particular reason for them to change a working model. And, as I mentioned, most will offer to screen by more old-school methods if a reference isn't available. But honestly, the whole debate about references only applies to providers who do advance bookings. I don't see how a provider who takes short-notice bookings could ever be expected to contact and hear back from a reference in time. So I think there are just as many valid arguments to be made for not using a reference. I don't think anyone should be judged for using references, as though they are failing to use their own good sense and are making clients jump through hoops, nor do I believe it's ever fair to insinuate that a provider who doesn't require them is being reckless. I also believe that there are reasons a provider would choose not to give references as a policy. I won't go into them in detail, some have been mentioned, but I don't think it's really necessary to defend. CERB is very positive and I love that things can be discussed and debated but I get a bit frustrated, or maybe dismayed, to see people put down for their preferred (and effective) methods of screening a client.

Alright! GREAT idea!!!!! I can start a Cerb friendly retirement home. I already have resources and research ongoing. My nursing home will be more lenient than the one written about below. Katherine and Lee, ready to sign on the dotted line?

"Would you be exclusive to me in exchange ____$ monthly allowance" I got this one a few times and my answer has always been the same: A cage, even made of gold, still remains a cage!

It's fun. I love to dance. I have to give it to the gents, it must be hard with so many lovely ladies to choose just one and sometimes two and I agree, not a hobbyist but Katherine is yummy and she can move!! That is all I will say:icon_wink:!!

Ahhh, the ?tipping? debate! I noticed there was a decided void in SP response so I will take a minute to share my thoughts? From an agency girl perspective, tipping is often a way to generate extra income because after they pay the agency and the driver, they usually end up on the short end of the stick. 10 years ago, I ran for an agency, we collected $260 for an hour, with $110 going to the house, $40-$100 to the driver depending on where the visit was located, which left me maximum of $110 with as little as $10 in my pocket. With a $15 book on fee and mandatory car cell phone fees of $25 per night, I needed 3 full fees per night to make working worthwhile, God forbid I get credit card calls, which somehow always worked out us getting nothing. We were not allowed to refuse a call so we had to find creative ways to ensure we were paid. Tipping for extra service was the only way to keep our heads above water. The nice thing was that we had a shift, we worked, and we went home and had a life. That said, it was unfair to the guest who would end up with less than what he expected because he was not prepared for the extra fees. Independents are in a slightly different boat. We usually have a higher upfront fee, but we also assume ALL the costs incurred, which is far more than many realize. If we charged what we feel we should to get our ROI, the protests would be heard long and loud. Many Indies have a smaller bottom line than an ambitious girl at a well run agency. So when it comes to tips, many things need to be considered. In the south, SP's are tipped much in the same manner as a restaurant. Anyone walking a restaurant wouldn?t consider walking out without leaving a tip if everything was satisfactory. I tip everyone in the service industry, from the girl who washes my hair, to the man at Suny?s who pumps my gas because a little bit from many adds up at the end of the day. Flowers and trinkets are lovely in thought, but a girl can?t deposit wilted stems into an RRSP, and my bank doesn?t seem to take dildos, massage oil, garter belts or silk stockings on deposit -go figure! As Joyful C has so wisely stated, most SP?s live a fragile existence financially. We provide an illusion of playful luxury for our guests benefit, but rest assured, 90% of the time it is smoke and mirrors. Behind the scenes we struggle to pay our bills, put diapers on our babies and try to take care of those we love, all the while working on a way to get to a normal existence if that does in fact even exist. An extra $20 from each client equals a full appointment by the end of the week, and at the end of the month that pays the cell phone, buys the groceries and lets us take the little ones away for the weekend after we have paid both rents (home and incall), all our advertising, babysitters, hydro, car repairs, personal maintenance and the same expenses everyone else has. Not to mention the monthly payments on augmentation, lifts, tucks and anything else to keep us up to the exceptionally high standards expected if we want to continue making money in this arena. There are few SP?s who can keep up the daily client service to ensure long term financial viability in this business because of the emotional and physical toll this business extracts which sometimes means extended time offs to get our heads, hearts and bodies back in order. We have no paid holidays, benefits or paid personal days. If there is a crisis that forces us to take time off, we lose money and clients which often means we work regardless of illness, pain or any other of lifes challenges. Each SP has her own reasons for working, but the universal element is that we all are trying to achieve some sort of financial stability. I never expect tips, and I can count on one hand how many I have received since my arrival in Canada because of the nature of the business here. Hate to tell you guys, but Canadian men are not known for their generous nature, they rank a close second to Germans in this realm (I think the outlandishly high taxes inflicted in both countries has something to do with it!). I would never expect a tip from guests that have me on retainer, I see them weekly. But unless you are going to be a bankable commodity in a SP?s life, a tip relative to the quality of service is a sure way to say thank you and have her know you mean it... Catherine