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CH, considering the fact the OP joined a week ago and this is his first post, a little friendly gesture wouldn't be so bad, would it? ;) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29657&highlight=Sacha Welcome to CERB, PL :)

I've been fascinated by what some would call "ultimate questions" all my life. Things like, What is good and how do we know it? What is bad or wrong and why? Is there a purpose to life, and if there is, what is mine? Who are you and how might I best engage with you? Who and what am I responsible for, and how do I express my responsibility? What does it mean to be a human being? What do all human beings need most in order to live well? These kinds of questions have led me to study a lot of things: literature, art history, anthropology, philosophy, ethics, psychology, modern and ancient religions. (I thought university was an incredible sandbox and I played in it a lot, for a long time.) Being a white, middle class person of northern European descent living in North America and wanting to understand the underpinnings of my own culture, I've studied an enormous amount of Christian theology and history. I'm not religious in any conventional sense. Like many people, I have practices that I follow almost by rote, whether in terms of things I do during the day or at different times of the year. I have ethical and moral principles, too. But I'm very suspicious of organized religion. Religion is about fear. It's about control, often including domination and manipulation. Religions play on human needs for community, for acceptance and security, making these things available to some and rejecting others who don't follow particular practices or state particular beliefs. They empower elites to determine others' worthiness and to manipulate their behaviour, often by employing strategies against or requiring actions of others that are not expected of the elites, or not to the same degree. Even so, many people often find comfort, meaning and purpose from their religion. As far as they are able to engage in things that are life-giving, I don't criticize them. I think that most people are aware of many of the excesses that are possible with some religions, though it's often harder to see the problems associated with our own. I believe in God, though it's not easy to explain or characterize what I believe except to say that, for me, God is ultimate reality, or the ground of being. The thing that connects us to each other and to the cosmos. I like Jesus. He wasn't religious, either. He was more concerned with how people lived and understood their lives than he was with religion per se. I think that he was murdered because he did or said something that upset the religious authorities enough that they turned him over to the Romans who, in turn, executed him. I think we often respond to radically good people the same way. I don't worry about my eternal salvation. I don't give anyone the power to convince me that I'm a bad person. I don't need to be saved from God because I don't believe that God is an angry judge who wants to squash me or anyone else into the ground unless we somehow jolly him into thinking we're good. As for working in the sex trade, well, I notice that most human beings need human contact to be their best human selves. For some people, it's enough to have good social relationships or to engage with others in specific ways. But for most people, without physical contact, including sexual contact, something withers inside them. I don't think that we are intended to be alone. Isolation can occur in the midst of families and between people who have been together for a long time. I'm interested in other people and I'm willing to help address some of these intimate, personal needs. While it's true that most of the men I see are married, and while I recognize that many people consider what my clients and I are doing to be immoral, I see things differently. I have transactional engagements with my clients. They pay me for the time I invest in focusing on them and their needs. I have no interest in upsetting anyone else, especially their partners and families. I'm also not a therapist. What I provide is care and attention that I'm often told is energizing, optimistic and helpful. More men than many people realize say that the time they spend with paid companions actually helps them go home to be better husbands and fathers than they might be otherwise. Of course this isn't true for everyone. Sex can be about a lot of things. Not all of them are noble and some of them can be outright dangerous, destructive and deadly. But we can say the same about other industries, too. Consider, for example, banking....

Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere. I'll maybe going to hell but at least all my friends will be there :icon_cool: "I'm on the highway to hell No stop signs, speed limit Nobody's gonna slow me down" AC/DC

Im Catholic. ..... Catholic Girls Rebel....and STILL go to HEAVEN!

Wow wow wow, this is very offensive, not because your opinion is wrong but because you based it on assumptions, which are completely false. Where did you get the impression that I wanted to exploit someone and take advantage of their situation. Instead I thanked someone for giving me this angle of thoughts that it would become a no-choice situation for that SP. I even mentioned that i was thinking that this way i may be helping someone to provide roof on her head. while on the topic of assumptions, it is a huge one to assume many of us would need help with our living situation. Not to be rude but how on earth could a woman feel at home at a place where she is not in control of her guests, living arrangements and especially body. Can't speak for other ladies, but I personally would never agree to this. Any lady that may, could quickly become resentful and angry. I can only imagine the fall out of a situation like this. And the personal info and slander that might end up being shared and slandered for both parties. A woman should be in full charge of her body, mind and soul. Agreeing to such terms would easily alter the balance of things. I would without a doubt feel exploited, especially if and when expectations become more than what was expected.

The direct quote MightyPen is referring to: "you don't have to pay too much cause she is completely dependent on you." - That makes you sound like a creep.

It's the difference between an arrangement that says "I'll give you this if you'll sleep with me", versus one that says "sleep with me or I'll take that away from you"... when "that" is the place you live. This isn't just "an alternative to convention"; it's threat and exploitation. For a client-SP relationship to be ethical there needs to be freedom of choice on both sides, at all times. But the OP was setting up a situation where someone made an agreement at one point in time in exchange for a place to live, and would then be held to that agreement at least weekly or be thrown out of her home. For some people -- especially someone willing to sign such an agreement in the first place -- being thrown out of a home can be extremely serious, and she may feel she has no choice but to compromise herself seriously to avoid it. I thought at first that he'd missed that coercive element of the relationship. But then it turned out that he was specifically interested in her dependence upon him, because of the leverage it gave him over the terms of her service. I sometimes pay women to (hopefully) have sex with me. That doesn't preclude me from condemning, let's say, human trafficking in the street trade. Nor from calling out a plan for exploitation when it's laid out so nakedly.

I miss George Carlin.

The first one that comes to mind is AT LAST by a young Etta James.

GNR - Knocking on heavens door http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tmc8rJgxUI Kiss - Beth Foreigner - I want to know what love is

Sometimes overplayed and maybe a tad cliche, but still and always will be a classic and the best rock n roll tune of all time! Stairway To Heaven - Zeppelin In particular from the 5:55 mark onwards gives me the most chills and goosebumps. Oh, and I want to fuck Robert Plant's brains out. Also, this will give you crazy goosebumps too... At a recent tribute to Zeppelin, Heart performed Stairway to Heaven.... A full choir and orchestra, Jason Bonham on drums... Plant and Page in the audience watching... (I'm pretty sure Robert Plant shed a few tears). Not to mention Ann Wilson's pipes, holy crap. Everything about it is perfect. It's incredible. (Oh, and Barack and Michelle are there, rockin out too! :D)

I used to tan in the summer, not via tanning beds though. Just outdoor wise. BUT no more :( I am very fortunate to have good genes which have given me a very nice facial complexion and really nice soft skin too ;) and I want to keep it this way for as long as I can . I don't want to mess my skin up by tanning. The creams, while I like them-I cannot be bothered. Pale skin is in :boobies:

Welcome to Cerb. Hard to know the ins and outs of any website when you just join. So sincere and polite questions are more than okay in my opinion. Enjoy your experience. Spend some time and find your way around and have fun :)

Personally, I would not even see him as a client after the fact. It's better to keep everything seperate than to mix up the client/photographer/SP professional relationship.

In terms of argumentative behavior or presenting an argumentative point of view, the word does not necessarily mean a negative. An argument can be and should be a totally rationale and logical discussion. What is important is to approach it not as an adversarial exercise but as a way of exploring and expressing different points of view. Discussions, threads and argumentative positions taken in written form on line and in Cerb are best served when one takes a moment to proof read and REALLY think before clicking that submit reply button. There are many instances when one can say something in total honesty and innocence yet when one looks at the words afterwards they can be seen as saying something entirely different from what was intended. Been there and done that and it is not fun.

For sure, and you can even check this board or their site and see Vitto there.... usually 1 day a week I do see there is a place on Booth just south of Somerset,,if you TOFTT please advise your info

This area also is the location of Aqua Spa on Booth.

Hey Gents and Ladies ! Just want to begin this by saying that this is not directed at anyone or meant to be anyone's point of view. These are just a few etiquette pointers to make things smoother .. Here are a few tips that may make a first encounter easier or make another visit go a bit more smoothly. When contacting a lady you shouldn't ask them to lower their prices. When a lady sets a price it is what she feels she is worth. Don't try to bargain that with her. It can make it so she doesn't want to meet you or she may take offense to the question. I know I can't speak for all but I know it bothers me a bit. Donation (a rate set by an individual lady).. I don't know about any gents, but there may be a time when you thought, "How do I go about paying her? When .. Before or after? " .. Well the answer to that is have the donation in a white envelope. Give it to the lady within a few moments of greeting and introduction. Some SP's even prefer you to put the envelope in the bathroom or on something that's in plain sight. That way the lady doesn't have to feel rude by having to interrupt the conversation to ask for her money. Get things out of the way smoothly so the time together can move on without that interruption. Also after you get to know someone and they become a regular companion the donation may be left till the end because of a mutual trust or agreement made. The time spent between a Gent and a Lady, much enjoyed by both, has to end. A set time is usually discussed in advanced. When the time does come be courteous of the lady's time and save both from a tense moment. Also a lady shouldn't ask Gents to be coming over and shouldn't be contacting the gent for dates. When a gent wants to see you he will contact you for a date. Personally I enjoy getting to know each other and keeping in touch in between encounters. But I do not ask for anyone to make a booking with me. During the visit the lady should make you feel comfortable, relaxed, cared about and sometimes make you feel you're living out a wild fantasy. She meets your every need while providing a non rushed (no one likes to be rushed lol) and genuine experience. She may even be providing a clean and safe environment where the encounters take place. Conversation is key from booking a session, to the moment you meet and to make the date comfortable for both individuals. Try to avoid touching personal subjects. Remember discretion is usually a must on both parts. Be a bit awkward if the conversation gets going and you guys end up knowing the same people or even may happen to know each others spouses (ouch right ? lol). Most importantly respect. We are all real people. We all have unique bodies, views and personalities. Give respect and it shall be received. I'm sure with everyone you may encounter. And may the ladies do the same. Appreciate each Gent for their unique qualities and personalities. I respect everyone I meet and respect has been given back. Hopefully this thread will help someone out ! Ashley xo

yes I am there on Wednesdays ... But just want to clarify.., since the threat was posted on The FS- Escort Section ., that I do not offer FS .., wonderful massage ;) !!! and is the same for the rest of the ladies at Aqua :) xoxo

- Sarah McLachlan. Listen to it while you put your head in this space: The first time I heard this was at three in the morning while standing in the ICU beside my oldest son who was in a coma with severe brain injuries after a falling down a flight of stairs. Still makes me cry. Oh, and the son? He's just fine, thank you very much. Fully recovered. Only long term effect was an improved sense of humour.

Okay, let me try again with less metaphor. In explaining your own reply to the OP ("that's why there's a search function") you've emphasized one aspect: that it was teaching him self-sufficiency instead of simply handing the guy the thing he's asked for without explanation. And you're right. I'm suggesting there's another aspect that's just as important, and that's some warmth, friendliness, and generosity with new folks. We could serve both purposes with a response to his post something like: "Sure, here's a link to that; and I got it by doing X." And although I'm sure not intentional, your reply was perhaps terse enough that it didn't serve this second purpose very well. I'll bet you find that an unjustified and skewed interpretation of your initial post. That's cool. I thought my bit of metaphorical flourish in my own explanation was darkly funny and directly to the point, but for you (and not just you) it clearly was not. So, see? We both made mistakes yesterday. I suggest we blame the internet, communicating via text, and the problem of conveying our full intentions in hasty thread postings. ;) Happy to move on.

Actually I thought it was awesome :)

Similarly: build a man a fire, and you've made him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you've made him warm for the rest of his (brief) life. Which one's better? Burning the poor new guy right out the gate is a bit harsh and might scare away a valuable new contributor. I get the principle of self-sufficiency you're going for but hey... there are all kinds of ways to show a guy how to help himself, and some are less stern and aloof than others.

For this week only, take 20$ off all sessions! The perfect opportunity to try a Nuru experience, or see me for an extended sensual massage, or go all the way with a 90m combination of a 30 therapeutic rub down accompanied by a 60m Nuru. You'll find me discreetly located in upscale and private accommodations or see me as an outcall at your residence or hotel. Schedule this week with so many rare occasions to get together. Monday 10h to 22h Tuesday 17h to 22h Wednesday One possibility at 10h & 16h to 22h Thursday 8h to 20h Friday 10h to 22h Saturday 10h to 22h Sunday 10h to 15h Call: 613-482-1553 Email: [email protected] (You can even reply to this newsletter) Text: 613-909-8336 Private Message me here on Cerb Click Here to book online and Check availability Please note that after this week, I will be unavailable until March. During this time I'll be taking an intense course and need all the time to study. I apologize if this poses any inconvenience. I will post a new schedule as soon as I can. Thank you so much for check out my post! Your's truly, Jessica xoxox

I usually respond to emails within 24-48 hours. Many of us have day jobs, kids, families, lives, etc, and we may not be able to get back to you right away. Also, and I'm not insinuating that this was your issue, but if I receive emails that are one word or line, such as "hi" or "are you available now?" I don't respond to them at all.

I just got accepted to York University's Master's program in Women, Feminist and Gender Studies for September 2013!!!! Highlight of the day? More like highlight of the year! I AM SO EXCITED I COULD BURST. When I called my parents to tell them, I was crying with joy. I kid you not. My mom was like, why are you crying and I was like, BECAUSE I'M SO HAPPY!

I know there's a few song threads out there but a friend and I were discussing songs that really give you a chill...hair rising on the back of your neck, goosebumps, etc. I think everyone has a few. One of hers was . I've got two that I can think of off the top of my head. . and . That one really hits me because I grew up sailing Lake Superior and remember how vicious the storms can be. Knowing first hand the terror of being in a small boat in a bad storm makes the song that much more chilling. The sea has no mercy.

I always tend to bristle a bit at the mention of religion; In my view, it's simply a social construct used to control the masses. It has nothing to do with one's own personal relationship with "God" or a higher power. As an aside, it always amazes me how little people know about their own religion. Catholics sometimes wear a crucifix as a religious symbol, but its history dates back to the 6th century BC when it was used as an instrument of torture by Persians, Jews, Carthaginians, Seleucids and Romans. This practice continued until the time of Constantine The Great, a Roman emperor who abolished the practice after converting to Christianity in 337AD. Similarly, the word "Satan" is derived from the Hebrew word "Shatan" which means the choice of evil, not the embodiment of. That said, I feel one shouldn't follow religious doctrine blindly, as it may lead to a very narrow and often conceited view of the world, which ironically is contrary to its fundamental teachings. It's important to be aware of the history, yet at the same time think for one's self and evaluate disseminated information in a critical fashion. For what it's worth, as long someone strives to be a good person, helps others and is generally productive, it's all good. If it comes down to a "final judgement", I don't believe there is one. There is no "wrath of God" or "condemnation" - these are human foibles. That is, if God is omnipotent, then he /she/ it would be above all that. If anything, I'd like to think we judge ourselves, realizing points in our lives where we could have done things differently, and perhaps we'll have that opportunity in the next phase of our existence. I wouldn't give too much thought to the moral quagmire that being a part of this industry presents. I'm sure God has more important things to think about.

Well in no rank order, but I have had wonderful encounters with the following Ottawa ladies (I'm only mentioning those ladies who I have had the pleasure of their company. There are some other Ottawa ladies I have yet to meet, but they are on my "to meet list") Meg For Fun http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=27470 Angela of Ottawa http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=24465 Isabella Gia http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=30000 Alexandra Sky http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=39777 Mia Bella (she hasn't been active on CERB for awhile, and I'm not sure if she is retired, or just taking a break) http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=29035 And I know you know how to use this site, but just for a quick link here is the Ottawa Forum http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=95 RG

A few others I can't get tired of listening to - Guns N' Roses - November Rain Prince - Purple Rain The Cars - Who's Gonna Drive You Home

Emily - Thank you! That was amazing. Add this version to my list of goosebump songs.

I got to admit I love tanning.., preferably by natural sunshine.., I just recently started using tanning beds.., was never a fan of it.., but one day decided to give it a try and I do visit a tanning studio or salon just to maintain and enhance my naturally tanned skin... All with measure as everything in excess can be harmful.. Also use lots of creams to regenarate and give the skin back some nutriens and keep it nice and soft :)

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Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight"

I have blonde hair and pale skin thanks to my heritage, so SPF100 is my friend!

The Pope is resigning, unfortunately when I think of this Pope I think of the Catholic Church's systematic cover up of child abuse. He was personally involved and how people revere a man like this is beyond me. http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/02/11/pope-resignation.html

:lovers: Valentines week calls for some valentines specials $20 dollars off half hour door fee 30 Mins - 30 Dollars-- -- door fee only regular rates inside the room still apply My name is Crystal, one of my biggest pleasures in life is to please, so why not treat yourself and allow this sexy young babe take care of you. I offer amazing, non-rushed service that will have your mouth-watering. Soapy hot showers, a massage that will take away all your tensions, body slides you cant deny, i love to tease and to please. I can be an angel, or i can be your little devil. So what do you have to lose? your going to be coming back for more, and i cant wait to see you smile. Come play with me. :whipping: :dncdick:

If I have a strong negative reaction to a thread I usually just keep my mouth shut and avoid the thread altogether.

Ok, now I know where the misunderstandings arises, what I meant to say is "in a sugar baby situation you have to pay too much because she is completely dependent on one person but in this case she would still be working as an SP and making money so she is [not] completely dependent on you" so my sentence should be read like this: " you don't have to pay too much in this situation instead of sugardaddy situation because [in sugar daddy ] she is completely dependent on you. Sorry for not putting things very clearly.

I am extremely patient when it comes to hearing back from my inquiries. I never expect an immediate response to pm's, e-mails or texts. Expecting an immediate response is ridiculous, people are busy and most definitely have a life outside of CERB. Getting a message back right away is nice, but should never be expected.

Google the build-a-man-a-fire quote instead and it'll save you some time. :) G'night. Keep well.

A little over-sensitive and over-reacting, maybe? Anyway, if you think that's what I did, I apologise. It was not my intention. Perhaps I should include more smilies when I reply to threads :) ;) :) Indeed!

Hello :) My name is Alexandria a full body massage provider. I offer a non rushed sensual massage session with perfect approach. I stand at 5' 2 110 pds. petite with stunning measurements 36d 24 36 I will be available Downtown on Monday. Tuesday Wednesday and Friday west end and Thursday at east. 6136974829 [email protected] Because sensuality is an art... http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/picture.php?albumid=6665&pi

Hope it can help you! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=29657 Welcome on Cerb!

Cerb has definitely changed my life lol When I was first starting out in this business, I didn't know who/where to go to for advise, help etc.. I didn't know anything of common red flags, was screening based on gut judgment.. Once I.joined Cerb, I learned that many of us ladies have much in common, and that there can be a level of respect and acceptance in something I enjoyed, but very much was feeling the taboo. Cerb has helped me be more informed about the business, and mine, making me much more comfortable in my decision to do what I already enjoy :)

Sorry to be so late to add this in here but I just now arrived home after a very interesting travel day. More on that tomorrow when I write a cumulative highlights of the day contribution. For the moment, thanks from me as well Angela for doing this once again. We really do appreciate your efforts in these events. As is the case with many others it was a pleasure to catch up with a few old friends and to meet some new ones. I see Angela that you have already posted a date for the next social and I imagine that a group of ladies have already started a "Bring Lee Richards To The Next Social" fund.:) Cleo, I am afraid apologies are in order but I missed the dance floor. Now those of you that were in Halifax for our social know that I can get out on a dance floor! So, if Old Dog wrote that he saw me out there then that is simply an indication of how many people continued to provide him with free beer! I gotta learn his secret. A special little public thank you to Malika who did something very nice for me that evening. So little that for her she may not even realize but for me was really nice. :) A good time was had by all!!!!!!

Although not familiar with the hiring of photographers, I think you would be looking for photographers that do boudoir photos. Probably check the internet for photographers in Halifax that do boudoir photos, that would be a good start. And this is just my opinion, don't offer to trade professional services. You are looking for a professional photographer, not some guy with a camera looking for a few hours with a lady in exchange for snapping a few pictures Just my opinion that's all RG

Sky have been previously mentioned here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119107 and here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=J&t=110550 Hope that helps...

Many of the SPs that I know put a great deal of value in the freedom of choice that this type of work provides. An arangment like the one your suggesting would take away some of that freedom. I also think that it's possible that your confusing what the work life and the home life of someone who works as a SP might be like. We arn't in SP mode all the time, we have hobbies, lovers, dogs, children, family's other jobs and often demanding university courses. SPs keep incalls so that day to day life and work don't overlap. Don't do it bad idea. Kay

Dude. You'd be creating a situation where you exert power over her, and she's required to have sex with you according to a schedule or else you can threaten to take away her home. It wouldn't matter that you'd found someone foolish enough to sign such an agreement on some particularly dark day. What happens when she changes her mind about the service? What if you no longer "like" her? She has to leave her home because she's not servicing you? And what if she was so desperate that she had nowhere else to go and is afraid to say "no" or she'll be kicked out; she's now your monthly sex slave? Do not do this. Do not even consider putting another person in such a horrible situation. Additional Comments: Oh for fuck's sake.