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Morning all! While I was "off" recovering, had lots of time to think (I know, I know it does not happen often!). Thought about all the lovely Ladies who are so talented, I just wanted to point it out and say "thank you". We have Ladies who are full time MP's or SP's. We have Ladies who balance "traditional" work lives, in the government, at hospitals, in offices, in banks, etc. and then spend time with us hobbyists. And we have Ladies who are still in university and college, some even in Masters level courses handling that workload, then spending time with us. Then we have the Ladies who balance their work lives with children, then work, then with us. To all of you, thank you. You are special folks who work hard to make us hobbyists happy. The Liquor

This idea has been thrown around a few times already and honestly, for discretion purposes, confidentiality and privacy too, I do not see myself ever writing any kind of public reco/review about a client (unless he was a bad date) BUT I am always more than happy to provide a reference(s) when asked.

Dave, I'm replying against my better judgment. In some ways your posts in this thread seem trollish and I'm allergic to feeding trolls. Nevertheless, this has been a serious discussion about the pressure on paid companions to agree to bareback activities, including a query about whether BBBJs are as risky as BBFS. Several people have contributed helpful, factual information, including links to authoritative resources. Your post, however, was full of conjecture, unsubstantiated statements and ungrounded accusations generally in favour of the argument that the risk of contracting a serious STI is miniscule. What you've heard in response has been dull shock and dismay and now it appears that you want others to do your work for you, to prove you wrong. That's not going to happen. I've been a paid companion for over a decade and have heard the "minimal risk" argument at least once a week, and frequently far more often. I find it personally offensive and insensitive because it doesn't take into account the reality of my life and working conditions. For many men, the risk of contracting an STI from a woman may be relatively low, given that they may have only a few sex partners a year, or less. But for paid companions, the risk is exponentially higher because of the number of partners we encounter in a month, a year or a lifetime. Let's say that we're in a room with 100 other people. One person has a gun with two bullets in it and he fires both of them. A lot of people may reckon that they have a 2% chance of being hit; they feel pretty safe, overall. Others may say that they don't want to be anywhere near that room, let alone in it, no matter how many other people are there because there's a guy, with a gun, and he's shooting bullets! But for me, it's my room. I entertain the whole crowd here, and I never know which of them has the gun. Most of the time, the one with the gun doesn't know he has it, either. Do your own research. Then reflect on what you read. Be humane. Have empathy. Be compassionate.

I personally am surprised that two thirds of the ladies that have responded feel pressured. I am further surprised that only 18 have put up a response, not sure what to make of that. I would hope that those that feel pressured, that isn't directly from the gentlemen, but more so that they feel that they need it to be competitive. And that isn't just in this life, think about all the athletes that put drugs into their bodies to be competitive and they would do it again, knowing the risks, which can be much more severe than the risk of a BBBJ. A lot of athletes shorten their lives because of it, and in some sports, the physical brutality, especially football can have some long term brain damage effects. So, why are they doing it, it is because the rewards can be significant. Smokers on the other hand, can't figure that one out. Anyway, the point being there are risk taken in life, we need to be aware of them, and make a decision that is right based on balancing the risks and considering the outcomes of not taking those risks. In the end, you shouldn't feel pressured, you should feel you made an informed decision. If you don't feel comfortable because of the risks, then perhaps those risks outweigh the benefit, and therefore you should not offer the service. I sure hope it isn't happening (the pressure) during an encounter, but suspect it may at times. The only one that bothers me are the ones that tell you up front they offer it, and when you arrive they now tell you they don't, must have been some misunderstanding. That is not right, and this happens too.

I know you are posting this with humor but I feel bad for your old pet. The fact that he is going pee on your floors and if this is new sounds like he is losing control of his bladder and sorry to say the out of the blue walks around the house may be pacing a sign he may be losing some of his other senses . Also the fact that he growls when you try to boost him up on the bed or sofa may be a sign that there is pain when he is touched. You are lucky to have him for so long but try to be understanding, although constant and repeated behaviors can be annoying to you those things like peeing on the floor are embarrasing for your poor old dog. The have pride, try and be patient with him and treasure the moments you have left with him, sounds like hes been a good and constant companion.

Luxe nailed this on the head. I would much rather see a woman because she is that woman than see someone just for a list of menu items. My favourite providers, and in my mind, the BEST providers are the ones that you NEED to see because they have struck a chord with you... and for the briefest moments in time, you become lost in their world. The sex part? It's great... but if you eliminate a provider JUST because she doesn't offer one of your favourite services, you probably are missing out on 99% of what she is really offering... herself. I guess it is one of the great advantages of being older and having experienced a lot of things in my youth when sex was neither as complicated or dangerous as it is now. Sure, I'd like it if we could all be worry free in the bedroom... or on the couch or the kitchen table or in the backyard... but the new reality is that we can't. We need to feel safe in what we do. But here is the bonus. Knowing that safety is a prime consideration, you can now truly experience an encounter to the fullest, knowing that there will be no debate as to covered or uncovered. It's something that you can remove from your mind, allowing you to focus on the whole experience - and when you do that, you will see what you have been missing all along. You become more engaged in the seduction. You become far more aware of her sensuality. You will stand in awe at the way she moves. You become far more aware of the way your own body reacts. You can lead and be led.... and it all stems from the fact that you KNOW what is expected and when. Just some rambling thoughts...

I understand the confusion as both have risk. I feel that because of the increased sexual partners that an SP has, her risk increases exponentially. Myself as an example, my target is to see 1 client a day/5 days a week. Thats 260 encounters a year. Now most of my clients are repeats but I'm not naive enough to believe that I am the only provider they see so if 20 of them see a high volume provider each month (let's assume 100 clients/mth) once a month it increases my exposure to over 2000 people per month or 24 000 people per year. Those numbers are very scary to me. I can't calculate the odds of a client because it would vary for each man but if they actually thought about the number of people a provider is exposed to, I think it would have a sobering effect especially if they only see ladies who offer bbbj as in Ottawa those providers are much busier.. I also understand that some men have issues with condoms being used during oral but in 25 years I have never had anyone have an actual issue with it unless they have an ED issue. I can get a condom on a man without him even knowing it's there and have new clients stop me during FS to check if I've put it one on after coitus is underway. This has led me to believe that it's a mental block not a physical issue at hand. I've never been comfortable with unprotected anything but Canadian men are brutal when it comes to insisting on it. I offered it in '08 out of financial necessity but no longer put it on the menu. It just isn't worth it to me. Uncovered oral is something I do when I'm so connected with a partner that I have complete trust in them and in the relationship we have. I'm not a risk taker, I don't play the stock market, russian roulette or go to the casino. Playing the odds I've listed above just doesn't seem like a prudent move on either a business or personal level. This is suppose to fun and in my world, fun isn't accompanied by sleepless nights full of worry, a trip to the doctor or having to tell you significant other you have infected them with something that may impact their health... cat

@frenchbrute... As a female that always dated 10-20 years my senior I can say it has nothing to do with the bedroom techniques. It is the different perceptions, interests and outlook that attracts me. I love the wisdom that comes from someone who has already experience the phase of life I'm going thru, who can discuss with experience what I am living and perhaps offer insight that I would not see. That said, I have had a couple of amazing life experiences with peers and younger than myself as well, it just isn't the norm. For me it's about the connection I feel to someone more than their sexual talent or skill... cat

Luxe said it perfectly Peachy.... Unfortunately, not providing BBBJs does cause many clients nowadays to not want to even meet an SP from the jump...however, there are many more clients who will support this and prefer to see ladies who practice safer sex. The more educated people get the easier it will be to get back to a place where the luxury companionship offered and the safe pleasures provided as a whole are no longer reduced to whether a single act is performed or not. Its your comfort, health and safety that are the issue...financially, I hope the support for safer sex practices, will soon be on the rise...make no mistake...the clients are there and they are the ones you want in the end.

I... don't even know where to start with this one.

I realize that women have a much stronger position to make this happen but I know exactly how you feel! I have a guest who came to see me a couple of times and the visits were wonderful. Great couch time, amazing foreplay and spectacular finishes but I genuinely wanted to skip the couch time with him. Our playtime was too short and I always wanted more when he left. So one night when I opened the door, I just inhaled him right there. Clothes flew and we barely made it to the playroom. Since then, we no longer have couch time, our chemistry is so intense that it isn't necessary for either of us. Lead your lady to it, get her in the mood by teasing. Take your time for a couple of visits and seduce her, it worked with me... cat

I say go for it - as long as you're not being forceful, your partner can let you know if that type of advance isn't welcomed. But I think it's fairly easy to see the signs...when giving her a passionate kiss, put your hand on the back of her head, and pull her hair a little...I know I've had moments like these, and when my partner has pulled my head back like this, he can see that naughty sparkle in my eyes which means... GO ON. Take me, hard. It's not always the right moment...but when it is, who DOESN'T like a good, hard, fuck? You can also just walk in and say it - "You're gorgeous, and I want to jump on you like an animal and fuck". See what she says :D (Hahaha I'm turning myself on here, can you tell I've been off all weekend?!)

Good point. The question is whether a BBBJ is as dangerous as BBFS. The simple answer is "probably not." But like many simple answers, that is actually misleading. A better question is, For whom is a BBBJ dangerous? The answer is it's most dangerous for the receptive partner--for the person who is performing the act. Have a look at this Sexually Transmitted Infection Risk Chart. The person who receives oral sex is less likely to contract an STI than the one who performs it. The performer is at higher risk of being infected with HIV/AIDS, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis than the one who receives it. The chart doesn't include other infections that are transmissible during oral sex like herpes, human pampilloma virus (HPV) and some forms of hepatitis. These are also serious diseases, but unlike HIV/AIDS, chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis, there are no laws requiring medical practitioners to report the infections. In simple language, if I perform a BBBJ on a man, the risk is greater for me than it is for him. If he has one of these STIs, I may be infected. If I have one of them, he has a lower risk of getting it from me. We might ask why there's a difference. Basically, many of us have tiny lesions in our mouths, caused by tooth brushing, flossing, reactions to foods or medications and minor injuries. Those lesions are an excellent entry-point for infection. Add to this the potential for minor injury caused by vigorous thrusting or an awkward angle. I've been part of a discussion with other ladies here about accommodating larger penises orally, about having sore throats or feeling that our lips and mouths have been uncomfortably stretched after performing oral sex. To sum it up, BBBJs are risky for paid companions and other people who provide them. The risk for clients and those who receive them is lower. This is misleading, MP. If the condom breaks or comes off, you're not coming into contact with all of my clients and everyone's various partners, but only with those people with whom I have engaged in unprotected sexual activities. Everyone else has been "contained." However, condoms don't protect anyone against everything! For example, syphilis, herpes and HPV are spread via skin-to-skin contact as well as by penetrative sexual activities. Herpes usually produces sores, but can also be shed when no sores are present. In its second stage, syphilis produces a rash on the hands, the soles of the feet or all over the body. Contact with this rash is an infection risk. HPV (genital warts and in its other forms) may or may not produce any sores but can still be contagious. Many STIs are treatable with antibiotics. The difficulty is that many of them produce no symptoms, so infected people don't know that they're infected. We've had a classified syphilis epidemic in Vancouver since the mid-1990s and the form of syphilis here has not produced symptoms in most people. HIV/AIDS is not treatable with antibiotics, but there are anti-retroviral drugs that seem to be effective in managing the illness for many people. Unfortunately, not everyone can tolerate these medications. Also, there's evidence that HIV/AIDS affects women differently than men in many cases. Last summer, the prevalence of an antibiotic-resistant form of gonorrhea was announced. Only one drug was effective against this strain. By December, no antibiotics were effective in treating patients who were diagnosed in Toronto, as reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association in January. Why do paid companions continue to provide BBBJs? Cat said, This is extremely important and should not be dismissed lightly or out of hand! Many companions are not aware of the risks of infection. Many who are accept the reality of statistical risk and choose to be zealous about being tested very frequently. They offer the activity because they need to make a living, pure and simple, and there are an enormous number of men who insist on receiving it. I don't offer BBBJs, but I do allow DATY. Many of my clients find oral sex to be less than satisfying because they have erectile or ejaculatory problems. But if I refused to permit DATY, or if I insisted on using barriers, such as dental dams, I would need to find another line of work. To be brutally honest, I'm a paid companion because nothing else I do can support my family above the poverty line. I would be thrilled if there was no pressure to provide BBBJs. I think that the gentlemen on this board could do a great deal about this, though much as I care for most here, I am under no illusions that it will happen. Stop asking for BBBJs and start telling other men of the risks associated with them. Help reduce the demand! Classify bareback contact as "husband and wife sex" and not part of the "girlfriend experience." The last thing I want to point out is that most men are never tested for STIs! Unless you are being tested every 3-6 months, it's my respectful opinion that you have little right to talk about sexual health risks or to give advice to anyone about the level of risk they should tolerate. Everyone who has any kind of sexual contact with another human being should be tested regularly. If you don't want to ask your doctor to do the tests, there are clinics near you where you can be tested. Go!

Peachy, I you want to be a safe gfe go ahead. I've been in the industry for a few years, have NEVER done a bbbj, and do more than fine. Yes i've had some backlash against it, even been pressured during appointments. I've received verbal abuse and the like, for not providing it. So i'm not going to lie to you and tell you its all peaches an cream being a safe gfe, some people feel entitled to certain services from sp's, we should just do what they want because they are the customer and they want it, so you should give it to them. However,all hope is not lost. On restructuring my business, i found something interesting.As I prefer to meet with clients who want to spend time with ME, not so much as the services i provide, i found that clients who want to connect on a a deeper level aren't too concerned with menu so much as experience and what kind of connection you can provide. In my case i like to provide a whole enriching meal instead of just one main appetizer, and i enjoy the company of gents who appreciate this about me. There are many gents out there who subscribe to the same school of thought. Your health is the most important thing, and I'm tired of hearing the same song by sp's saying they want to provide all safe services but can't for loss of business. Yes you will lose business, but you will gain a different client base who appreciate a lady who cares enough about both parties health enough to protect herself. Your clients that genuinely care for you and your well being will stick by you. They others, well.......

As an sp and as someone who has never personally met you may I say I am also thankful to be able to correspond with funny, thoughtful, appreciative men such as yourself. With all you are going through- how nice of you to take the time to thank us-the ladies of cerb-so let me represent the ladies and throw an even bigger thanks right back at you and a bunch of hugs too!

As I'm reading this thread in my hotel room down south away of vacation. This topic comes up just about every year (BBBJ) I would like to think, firstly and most importantly that everyone gets themselves tested regularly without fail if you participate regularly in the hobby. Secondly it is the 'control' of the service provider of what she is 'providing' not ever to be forced into providing a service because of what? supply and demand ? Everyone has their choices in this lifestyle, and no one should ever pressured into doing something they do not want to do. When I contact a provider the only question I ever ask, if she allows DFK never the topic of CBJ or BBBJ, as I get older I look for the sensuality,erotic play,the GFE experience the hugging,chatting the love making, as I say most times "I'm not about wham bam thank-you mam" For me it is the "COMPANIONSHIP" regardless if it is a BBBJ or CBJ

Drive me nuts? I don't even know where to begin. The dog: - Gets in our bed and licks her privates leaving huge wet spots. - Is completely immovable. Plunks herself down wherever you want to be and all you can do is slide her around with your foot. - Did I mention immovable? Gets in bed with you and progressively inches her way into wherever you are until you only have a tiny spot left. - Eats poop. I've given up on trying to stop her since it's mostly harmless but when her belly is bad and she comes back inside to throw up afterwards...you've not lived until you've cleaned up poop-barf. - Oh yes, immovable. If you're in a recliner, her favorite spot is under the footrest so you can't put it down. The cat: - Only drinks from the tap. This leads to her scratching the tub spout in the middle of the night to wake us up if we forget to close the bathroom door. - Excessively talkative. Constantly needs to tell you all about her day. - Needs to be fed even if she already has food. "Five in the morning? I better rub my whiskers in masters face just to make sure he doesn't forget to get up and feed me." - Trained assassin. Her preferred method is to make it look like an accident by tripping people going down stairs. - Cannot be behind a door. This means no more pooping or sex with a door closed since she requires entrance and will scratch the door or 'boing' the door stop until you let her in. Anyway, I love the critters but sometimes....Anyone want to adopt some pets? Slightly used, still got plenty of miles on them.

I think Luximulvari said it perfectly. The quality of time spent is just as important as the services offered. As a senior citizen who needs some encouragement in the sexual department also has respect for the partner at home. I rely on the SP to make this a safe and comfortable experience. Silverhorns

I blacklist clients who ask for this, as to me, it signals not only a disrespect for my health, but their own and potential partners as well.

One of the best parts about getting older in the hobby is that you can finally realize one great truth. Your penis is NOT the only thing that has an orgasm. True, it is the one part of the body that can give "evidence" of a successful encounter, but in reality the process of aging opens the door to the "mind-gasm." It's that little shiver you get when you see her at the door. It's that breathless moment when she places that first soft kiss on your lips. It's the moment of exultation when she guides your hand to the swell of her breast, the curve of her bottom... It's the childlike moment of expectation when she begins to remove her clothes... and yours. It's a myriad of moments, involuntary body reactions and snippets of frozen time that you have captured in your mind throughout each and every second of her time with you. When you are younger, most of that is just a blur - a preamble to the physical orgasm. The moment you savour most is when you have reached the state of physical euphoria... that briefest period when your body aches to release. But now, I remember. I remember when she walked through the door. I remember that kiss. I remember that caress. I remember the flush on her cheeks and the quickening of my heart. I remember her every move and each of those memories transports me back to that time. Getting older is not so bad. Not so bad, at all.

I don't know if a Sp client review section is offered on this site, but I was thinking it might be a good thing to have. It would be similar to having client's give reviews of Sp's except it would be reversed with the Sp's writing about the clients instead! I know there is supposed to be a section on this site where Sp's can go to see if a client is a bad experience, but if there was a section where Sp's could go and see good reviews of clients too it would give them an idea of what to expect. All the Sp would need would be the clients CERB handle. If a Sp wrote a favourable review about their time with a client she could also PM him so that he knows too. Just a thought

Why is it that some people pick up their dog poop in a plastic bag but leave it on the street? why bother?

I'll try to play devil's advocate a little bit here .... provide some further food for thought (hopefully) and re-enforce some of the posts that were made. While in principle the idea of having a "good client list" COULD sound like a good idea (ease of access for the ladies on whom the good guys are), there could be potential ... questions or issues. As a client, i do write recommendations (not reviews) ... and I certainly do not "rate" the ladies i have seen and i would certainly not like to be "rated" or "reviewed" either, as a client. Every encounter is unique in the moment it happens. Whilst i have written recommendations, i strive to be discrete about the encounter and i expect the same in return. When and if references are required, these remain in a private communication from someone i'd trust to provide it, as i do not want details of the time i spend with ladies unduly circulated in any public way. Recommendations we provide can certainly help the ladies business, and help in guiding others in finding what they are looking for, i'm all for that. But as a counterpoint, would me being "recommended" - and i make the distinction here from references- as a client in some way, shape or form on a forum create an expectation if i ever want to meet someone i hadn't seen before? If any positive is being said in a private area, what would be said? (i.e. the reco threads we do as clients being public). Anywho, while we all try to make this a safe place for everyone involved, especially for the ladies, regardless of their business model or affiliation in the business, i hope i've conveyed some of my thoughts properly ....

Every morning, as soon as I give the smallest shift to indicate I may be awake, my little Cleo Catra jumps on my chest and begins to meow, loudly, and won't give up until I get out of bed and feed her some wet food. Demanding kitty! When friends sleep over they complain that she should come with a mute button, lol

Actually, I can't agree with that at all. If it's a choice between CBJ and an HJ, then I'll choose the HJ. I can't feel anything through a raincoat, but that's also why I prefer massage over escort.

well, as I get within 5 months and 4 days of my 60th birthday, I am certainly glad of two things most of me still works fine ... yes, more things ache more than they used to, but all in all, I have been lucky on the health front and, it is nice that the women who have responded to this thread appreciate (or at least tolerate) us older gentlemen cheers

... and that is why we encourage everyone to post. You never know what will inspire you, or how you will inspire others to write. I took a look at the threads the other day. In the General Discussion area there are over 1600 separate threads... 1600!!! In the Ottawa Discussion there are over 600 threads. That's 2200 plus threads of inspired comments by members of this site.... and that is just the tip of the iceberg. As MOD has stated, it's fantastic seeing and hearing from members that have merely lurked in the past. We have an AMAZING community and it can only get better by involving everyone. Not every topic will appeal to everybody BUT I guarantee that if you take the time to read, everybody will find something that will resonate with something inside each of us. I am still a relative newbie compared to some of the pioneers on this site.... but in three short years I have made some of the most amazing friends from the board and I have to admit that it wouldn't have happened without engaging in the conversations. Some of the stuff is provocative, some hilarious, some very sexy and some will bring tears to your eyes. There is something for everyone here... and all it takes to become a part of the greater community rests at the tips of your fingers. So... thank you ConstructionGuy6957.... and all of the rest of you that have chosen to end your silence. The best is yet to come.

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I think this whole issue is a matter of one's health. A lot of folks believe that BBBJ's are fairly safe and that is not necessarily true, the same with DATY. If a SP sees several clients each month and provides BBBJ for each of them it will be only a matter of time before she will catch something and may not even know she has and will pass something on. This is indeed a controversial topic and probably always will be, but the bottom line is we don't live in a STD free world and really no one knows who has been with whom, or where they have travelled on this planet, etc. I strongly feel that SP's shouldn't feel pressured to provide the service as they are lovely ladies who should be treated with love, respect and kindness and most of all safety! My two cents.

Great thread and poll When I offered GFE,yes I did feel preasure to offer BBBJ. I was always on the fence with it. However I DID NOT put it in my ads as I did not want every person to think that they were entitled to that. The client that has been with me for long time,usually I would offer it,but not the fly by night client that I know nothing about I did not offer. Even then my long term client could be decieving me and I still would not know it. It is not an issue for me now as I am MA....but if I were GFE still, I think at this point, you would need to be a very very very special client for me too offer this. HFX has a huge problem right now with cyphilas, and it remindes me that the extra 50 is not worth me getting sick or passing it to my lovely hubby:(

I have built my business on the "slow down and savour" model. I realized when I returned to Canada that in my career, my favorite times and most memorable moments were those that I spent "time" with a guest. I remember those special men that took the time to get to know me and allow me to know them as people, not just a romp. Today I dedicate my energy to those men that know they want more than just a play partner, they want a NSA relationship that is beneficial to both of us on more than just a physical/financial level. They need to want the connection that comes from knowing and genuinely liking someone. I want to look forward to my guests, to count down the sleeps till I see them and savour the experience from the moment they walk thru the door until they depart with kisses and and our next visit is scheduled. I refuse to waste a minute with someone I can't connect with even tho this is my work. I don't want to be rushed or feel like I'm counting the minutes till he leaves. Life is too short to be taken for granted and our time is too precious to waste. So ciego5757, yes you can take your time. You just need to choose partners that see the world the same way... cat

I'm sure there are many more but FYI 2 recent bait and switch experiences in Moncton. Blonde Bombshell and Blonde Barbii Doll. Both are nothing like the pictures and if you saw them you would know why they post fake ones.

As I move through life I sometimes hear or read things that touch me in a profound way. They change my perception, thought process or the way I behave. I love those little gems that come out of nowhere as if they were made just for you. I wanted to share a couple of mine and hope others might do the same so that maybe more of us can't enjoy an "AHA "moment. Here are three of my more recent ones: It's a challenge to see every problem as a lesson and approach it positively asking what can you learn from it but to do this gives us power by helping change our perception and then problems that arise, shrink in size. Honesty and full disclosure are two separate things. Honesty means what you say is true and to me this is very important. Full disclosure means to say everything there is to say. I own my information so if I chose not to share it because it has no impact on you, I'm not being dishonest I'm simply indulging my privacy. A secret shared between individuals that has no bearing on anyone else and is not told, is NOT dishonesty, it's privacy. I am finding more people think full disclosure is honesty and when you don't share everything, it's dishonesty. This is untrue. Children are people and individuals. They are not property. They deserve the same respect you would grant any adult and they will learn and give respect as an adult. If you wouldn't do/say something to an adult than don't do/say it to a child, find a better way. We give more patience to older people trying to maintain control than we do to those learning it when it should be equally important and deserved. It's a difficult lesson to put into practice but worth it.

Why is it that whenever there is a thread trying to have a reasoned conversation regarding bareback vs. covered services, some people get so touchy and complain of being lectured?

It would on first glance seem like something fun. But what if you were a client not recommended. You aren't a bad client just not reco worthy in the lady's opinion She possibly could lose a client The feedback from the lady to me comes in the form of post encounter emails and she wants to see me for future encounters if asked. Also if she is willing she will, if asked by me, give me a reference if needed to see another lady. In short and it's just my opinion, but the feedback a lady gives is private to the gentleman and not for a public recommendation Just my two cents worth RG

Each member here will have their own reasons to give thanks, rep points/comments and or nominate a post. It is a personal decision to give out and unless there are hard and fast rules about giving them which I didn't read they should be taken as positive feedback on a post you made Just my opinion RG

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I have voted, Peachy. I would like to stress that for me, choosing a particular lady to see is not solely dependent on whether she provides bbbj or not. Much as I prefer it to cbj, I also consider her overall look, personality, attitude, quality of service etc. before seeing her. If it happens that I have enjoyed the whole experience, I'll have no hesitation to repeat and she will become a regular of mine. With a regular, it even weighs less if she does bbbj or not (or changes back to cbj from bbbj). I go to see her because I enjoy the companionship, the friendship, the sport outings, the lunches or dinners etc. I will even help her move just to be close to her and to lend a helping hand. She will become essentially a dear friend of mine. As such, to stop seeing her will be the last thing I will do if she chooses to protect herself by taking precautionary measures.

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She was/is there this evening/tonight. Aso is Andrea, who I think is another favourite of yours :-) Additional Comments: Things were humming along there tonight, Friday evening. There seemed to be a few parties, with quite a few female customers, who were happy to tip on stage from time to time. And today is shooter girl Ashley's birthday, so she will no doubt keep the party going. As far new girls, I met a charming new girl tonight by name of Megan. Hasn't been dancing for that long, and said she was nervous going on stage, but she did a great job and looked terrific. Very curvy natural figure, tanned slightly exotic looks (I'd guess Portuguese if pushed - I didn't ask), and not too shabby on the pole tricks. Refreshingly open and genuine to talk to, and fun in the CR too. I look forward seeing her again. She's also a Cerb lurker, and with a bit of luck she'll register and pop up and say Hi!

I actually want to add a BIG thank you to all the members who have started posting quality posts. In the last 24 hours I have seen 10 times more moderated (new member) posts and a lot of good quality comments coming in! So to all those who are sharing and contributing thank you. I know I am venting a little as it upset me with the people complaining. I felt I missed the most important part of this and that was to thank all the people who needed the push to post and have started to join in the conversations and community. Welcome.

Seen Katrine a few times now. she is a hell of a good time. always looks and smells great. she takes great care of herself. takes care of you like king.

A lot of you use the site and dont contribute (just take) if you would post and contribute you will make the site better. Well unless you post stupid comments and in that case you may loose your account alltogether. You post under an alias, if you use the privacy feature in your browser and use a alias that no one in your personal life will recognise you have no excuse not to contribute if your using the site! This site exists cause the members here contribute time and effort into quality posts and recommendations. If your not contributing then you will need to deal with the 5post 5day message all new users now see.... The site is free to use its the least we can ask for! My suggestion is to contribute and dont complain. Your obviously finding value n the site.

Far be it for me to prick anyone's balloon, so to speak, gentlemen. Please read my tone of utmost respect and affection: When you were 18, 20 or 22, you were never even half as good in bed as you are now. Sure, back then, you could have four, five, six or more orgasms a day or night. Your problem wasn't how to get hard enough, it was how to calm down, particularly in public. You may have imagined yourself as a force of nature: you could go on and on and on without stopping. If the women you knew weren't able to climax as quickly as you did, it was a shame. Every orgasm you had was an eruptive triumph. You had them so easily and so frequently that fast and easy seemed the best way to go. Frankly, you were an exhausting, not very satisfying partner. A lot of the women your age were learning to fake orgasms so that they wouldn't feel inadequate, or so that they could say "that's enough." The ones who didn't fake it may have seemed "frigid" or that they just didn't like sex very much. And maybe they didn't if sex was going to be so much work for so little return for them. I was very lucky. In my early 20s, I discovered men who were in their 40s. For years after that they were the only men I slept with. They could have a couple of orgasms a night and they had enormous self-control. They would take their time. They'd learned about seduction and sensuality. They often seemed able to reach inside me, metaphorically and physically, until in the same, bright moment, something deep in my being shimmered, opened wide, melted and shattered, over and over again. Those men have become better and better lovers as time has passed. Good sex often takes longer, but it's also more powerful and more meaningful, too. One orgasm. Sometimes two. On rare occasions, when well-rested and with the stars in proper alignment, there might be three in a long night. But the number of climaxes isn't the issue. What matters now is the feeling of completeness, the depth of engagement. A lot of that happens with cuddling, slow caresses, extended foreplay and exquisite games, textures and sensations that bring us closer together and make things last longer. I prefer to entertain gentlemen over the age of 50 or 55. It's unusual for me to see someone under 40. I refuse to meet anyone in their 20s. Younger men may be fine human beings but most haven't yet taken time to know themselves, their own or women's bodies. Sex becomes predictable and, frankly, I bore easily. So this is in praise of older men. With or without Viagra, no matter how predictably their bodies behave, while their sexual peak is long past, their prime endures.

You obviously dont know the whole story and we are not making it public as per the request of those involved but aubrey is welcome back once she has fixed the problem that got her suspended in the first place. The council is privy to the info and the council voted her banned here until she fixes the issue. This topic is closed and not up for public debate here .... And trust me if you knew the real true story you would not be crying foul here!

When I arrived in Canada I had only once used a real picture in 19 years of working in this industry. I understand the philosophy behind "real" pics but it doesn't mean I am any more comfortable with my pics being out there. I understand the reasons why she may have used the photos and I respect her offering an apology... cat

I get this question, too, but, like Phantom, I assume it's the influence of US TV. I usually give the guy a link to a description of the laws in Canada, and let it go. Sometimes, I've said, "No, I'm not a cop. But some of my clients are." :icon_lol: