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Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa September Social will be held Thursday, September 19th, so mark your calendar!! There will be 60 spots available (30 gents and 30 ladies) for members in good standing. Gents, tickets will be made available soon, at a cost of $35, which will cover snacks, drinks for the ladies and door prizes. I will keep everyone up to date via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by CERB members for members, you can contact myself, Loneskater or Spud271 directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

I've been in this business for quite awhile. I wouldn't have stayed in it if I wasn't able to make a living and support my loved ones without doing irreparable, deep harm to myself. In the beginning, it was touch-and-go, so to speak. But I was new, had plenty to learn and the only thing that mattered to me initially was that I needed to earn a lot of money as quickly as possible. I was subjected to enormous pressure over the low fees I was charging, even then. Some people will try to bully, pressure or negotiate the fee, no matter how low it is to begin with. When I raised my rates the first time, I felt as though I was taking my children's lives in my hands. I was completely astonished to find that I had no trouble finding worthwhile clients who didn't question my quoted fees. Not only that, but they were generally a lot easier to deal with. I decided that was because they were making a clear decision to spend their money with me, whereas at the beginning I was attracting clients for whom the low fee wasn't really an issue to begin with. The next time I raised my rates, I was hesitant but not as anxious as I had been before. I wanted to see fewer people and was willing to put the effort into attracting them and then into encouraging them to return for another visit. Again, there were good clients out there who didn't question my fees. There were some who were dismissive or combative, but by that point I didn't care what they thought. I was earning what I needed to earn and I was seeing people I enjoyed. As far as I'm concerned that's the definition of near-perfection. I still receive occasional e-mail from men who think that insulting me may help convince me to see them. I've been told that I have an undeserved opinion of myself, that only a 23-year old woman who looks like a Barbie doll is worth what I charge, that in these "tough economic times" I have an obligation to lower my fees because the inquirer is having a hard time meeting his expenses and that no one really wants to pay so much for someone who's been "used" by many others before him. I've become an expert at pressing the "delete" key quickly. I'm fortunate not to need to advertise very often. I turn away far more people than I engage with because I don't have to make time for people who don't interest me. I'm thankful that I can afford to see the gentlemen I want to see. If you can't afford my fees, that's a shame. It's not my problem, though. If you're impatient to see me and don't want to wait until you can afford to spend time with me, I understand. Healthy adults have learned to delay gratification so I'm sure you'll manage somehow. If you decide that, instead of seeing me, you'll see someone whose fees are lower than mine, that's your choice. It doesn't actually have anything to do with me. That's really what it comes down to. What you can afford to pay is about you, not me. It's not my problem and it's not something I will take on. You can't afford my time, but others can.

I agree with the sentiment that we should not objectify people, whether women in this industry or not but perhaps the delivery could have been done without the final paragraph. To put down those with a lower rate than yourself, to say that you get what you pay for implies that there is a hierarchy based on rate in this industry when in fact I don't agree with that. We all offer different services, model our businesses differently and service different areas of the market. There is a market for the $80-100 ladies and yes some of those ladies may not offer great service but then some ladies that have rates much higher than mine also are not "gems". To say that price is the determining factor means that I am about twice as good as you and I don't believe anyone can say that. We simply target a different clientele and have a different business model, we may appeal to different people as well but there may be some overlap, of that I am not entirely sure as I am not in Ottawa that often. I think it's important for everyone to realise though that there is a market for everyone has a role. Some of these ladies are likely not happy in their present situation but that can happen in any market. I know ladies that do not enjoy the longer dinner dates and travel that I prefer, they like to focus on the shorter 1hr engagements. I myself will not offer those as I do not enjoy them. It doesn't make any one of us better or worse, and definitely does not guarantee you are a better companion than anyone else in the eyes of your client. What makes you a better business woman is when you recognize what works best for you and work within your comfort zone, clients appreciate someone that is happy offering a service they enjoy and from my understanding that is what you do. Perhaps some of the ladies that offer shorter dates or have a profit model that is based on higher volume are also content in their situation and I don't think it's right for us to put them down for that. **** end of my little detour **** As to the topic... Personally I don't get a lot of the negotiating requests, when I do I stop to re-evaluate where I am marketing and my ad content. I can ignore one or two emails about my consideration but more than that means I am somehow failing in my communication and I need to be more effective. As an example recently I decided to post on a new advertising board and had several people contact me about my "one hour rate" or perhaps "I'll contact you again in a week when you drop your rates, you must be new." I was in a city I had visited several times so I wasn't at all concerned about it, the only new factor was the new board I had advertised on but all the additional emails about the rates were a make work situation for my assistant so I was able to determine quite quickly this was not a place I would be advertising in the future and in fact I deleted the ad early as I didn't want her to be wasting time answering these inquiries. It wasn't the fault of the potential client but rather I wasn't reaching out to my market.

... until the day arrives that someone is negotiating percentage points for interest on a loan to lay along side me in my bed I will not negotiate my consideration. As long as my service costs less than a day at a golf tournament, it isn't up for discussion. I am a negotiator, anyone who knows me will attest that I can be embarrassing to go shopping with. I will negotiate any PRODUCT price and have done so in stores from Walmart to Holt Renfrew but I don't negotiate with my lawyer, my mechanic, my general contractor, my accountant, my hairdresser, my nail shop or my RMT. These are MY service providers and I value the work they do because it is quality and I trust them to give me their best every time I walk thru the door. All I ask is that I'm treated with the same respect when I give my best as I do each and every time a guest walks thru my door... cat

In this age of social media and different ways to connect with people, blogs have become a very big part of the communication structure. Many of the lovely ladies of CERB now have a blog as an extra form of communication and sharing. My question for those of you who browse and enjoy our blogs, what would you enjoy seeing? Seeing more of? Seeing less of? Would you like more personal sharing about life as an MA/SP? Stories of our adventures, pictures, Q&A? Personally, I like to think of my blog as a way to share with those I might meet or have met. Feedback to make it more enjoyable is always great!

Yes please!

I hope to make it :) I had allota fun last social !! Now that I know Mr T's secret maybe I will bring some baking too ;)

Yes, please! I will be there.

Count me in!!

My big bouncy bountiful boobies:)

Thank you Emily for your great wit, sexiness, charm, and personality. I can't wait to meet you in person and congratulate you on the occasion of 1,000 CERB posts, as Midnite so eloquently wrote, "1 lick at a time". :cooter: :D

Wow, thank you so much Miss Midnite for starting this thread and everyone else for all the love and your awesome comments! :) I love you guys too, and am so happy to be here! :) xoxo

I know people that will negotiate all services. What I find amusing is they feel that they got a "deal" to begin with and then complain when they didn't get all that they wanted or needed. Negotiating multi-hour rates like a court case or a custom built house is one thing, taking 5-10% off $100 000 still leaves a viable cash flow and small excess can be trimmed where needed to accommodate the discount. Asking me to take a 40% pay cut on my fee that has not increased in 9 years for a luxury service is simply arrogant and insulting. Pussy is not a poor mans hobby and if a man needs a discount because he genuinely doesn't have it in his pocket then he should realize that he genuinely CAN'T AFFORD to be hobbying and needs to get his financial house in order... cat

is not acceptable! This isn't a flea market. Take the time to find out what options a lady offers (ie length of time and corresponding donations) and either book with her or continue your search! BTW "can you do x amount of time for x amount of donation?" is akin to negotiating!

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But, 'quickie' has u & i together hehe... Hello Gentlemen, My name is Sasha, I'm a young fit MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic GFE massage will relieve your tension while I provide you with sexy teasing fun that will lead to an explosion of heavenly pleasure, just tell me what your into. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, dark hair, golden tan, juicy round bum, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes and very open minded fun and comfortable to be with. Join me for some hot steamy fun available 10am-9pm call 613-614-2117 -Sasha xoxo

Leonard Cohen - If It Be Your Will 'Mad World', originally by Tears for Fears, which I love, but this cover by Gary Jules just kills me Tori Amos, 'Me and a Gun'. I saw her perform this one, at a smaller venue in Toronto, and I was in the front row. It was chillingly mesmerizing, I think the entire audience was brought to tears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xjlWFjX1Yw

I'm glad this was brought up. I started to feel a little uneasy when rates are used in a sense to form a judgement.

Greetings, I'm an instinctively sensual woman with a playful demeanor. I believe a sensual massage lies within using both hands and body to simultaneously relax and excite the senses. I take the time to savior the entire experience and seek guests that share in my vision. My availability this week: Monday 10am-4pm Tuesday 3:30pm-11pm Wednesday 10am-4pm My recommendations: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=43994&highlight=sensual+erin I'm excited for my new venture and to meet the very lovely angels team. Care to help me earn my wings? ;) Please call 613 274 7073, or pm to book our reservation. Sensually yours, Erin xoxo

Thank you to everyone who has responded so far. It's been really helpful to read your comments and has definitely provided some insight on how I could handle such a situation in the future. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to recommend they not read my recommendations if it causes them unhappiness and move on from there. I should probably also mention that although I'm a paid companion, the experience I have with everyone is different. I don't want to insinuate that they are more special than everyone else because that wouldn't be fair/true and could do more harm than good. Also, I shouldn't have to lie to appease someone's insecurity about my lifestyle, chosen employment, etc. Perhaps the undercurrent of such comments about recommendations is a hope that the relationship can become more than what it is currently. Or a desire to move beyond the negotiated realm of an SP/client relationship. If that's the case, then obviously there is nothing I can do. I'm simply not sure what's expected of me in those moments. I care deeply about people and it upsets me to think my lifestyle causes people harm in those moments. As many have expressed, it isn't my problem, and while I agree I definitely find it hard nonetheless. I'm empathetic, what can I say? I think I get lost in my own thoughts when I start thinking about the complexities of these relationships we have on CERB. There are so many layers to our interactions! I wouldn't change any of it for the world though. I absolutely adore this profession. I love interacting with people, making connections, and even in these more difficult moments I still learn so much about others, and myself. It's a great way to live.

Is it too intimate? In some ways, yes it is... For the first 15 years of my career, no kissing or daty was industry wide S.O.P. These were services that were offered only to very trusted regulars at a girls discretion. I couldn't wait to get home and kiss my husband after a long nights work. The kisses were the ignition to me wanting him. It wasn't until I arrived in Canada that I was faced with the fact that clients expect it on the first visit. I loved to kiss but it was a challenge for me because kissing is the most intimate act I participate in and adding it to daily menu desensitized me to it and it has come with a cost in my personal sex life. I can no longer achieve a deeper level of intimacy and connection with personal play partners as I used to and it makes it far less appealing to play simply for fun. If my lips are engaged, I'm all in because I can't separate my kisses from my kitty. This was one of the main reasons for the break down of my marriage altho I didn't recognize it at the time. I genuinely enjoy my work, I can orgasm easily when kissed properly and I love skin but given that guests want access to every part of me, I seldom have any needs left for personal lovers to tend to. It's a win for guests as they get an authentic experience but a loss for me because I have no interest in a sexual relationship on a personal level. Even men who I have amazing connections with on an emotional level never get to first base because my itches have been scratched. Men don't want to cuddle and hang out long term if there's no sugar on the horizon so I don't even bother to try and date. If a provider feels kissing is too intimate, then respect that. She knows what works for her. I wasn't less gratified in my work when I didn't kiss or allow oral, I still loved providing the service and my ensuring my guests left satisfied. They just weren't entitled to every little bit of me for less than a monthly car payment. I didn't realize when I tried to stay competitive that it would come with such an expensive personal pricetag... cat

I've only been on CERB for a couple of weeks and have yet to meet any of the MAs or SPs ... yet :D. But I am almost positive that if you look through this board for recos of well known MAs, whether indy or spa based, you will be completely safe. That's the beauty of a community such as this. If you choose to see someone whom many of the CERB guys have seen, the lady's reputation is already established and you'll have nothing to worry about.

I prefer lifestyle, then durex second­. I have a really sensitive vagina and some brands irritated me like no tomorrow.

anyone seen taylor on bp? her pics look good

Getting the boat ready to go out for a nice swim in the lake on a hot gorgeous day!

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For sure Emily J. is insightful, 'always with something real to say... Congrats on this milestone!

Sunday Maya 10-4 aka "Midnight Maya" Robyn 10-9 aka "robynxoxo" Tiffany 10-4 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Pandora 3:30-9aka "Pandora" Lexi 3:30-9 aka "Sexy Lexi" Monday Jenna 1-4 aka "Jenna69" Erin 10-4 NEW aka "Sensual Erin" Taylor 10-4 aka "Taylor_xo" Tiffany 10-4 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Lexi 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Lexi" Kelly 3:30-11 aka "Kelly2010" Tuesday Lexi 10-4 aka "Sexy Lexi" Taylor 10-4 aka "Taylor_xo" Nicky 10-4 aka "Nicky in Paradise" Jenna 10-11 aka "Jenna69" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Erin 3:30-11 NEW aka "Sensual Erin" Jennie 5-11 Wednesday Tiffany 10-5:30 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Kennidi 10-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Erin 10-4 NEW aka "Sensual Erin" Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Jenna 5-11 aka "Jenna69" Lexi 3:30-11 aka "Sexy Lexi" Jamie 3:30-11 aka "Jamie-xo" Thursday Kennidi 10-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Summer 10-4 aka "SUMMERLOVE" Tiffany 10-7 aka "TiffanyXXXOOO" Robyn 3:30-11 aka "robynxoxo" Kelly 6:30-11 aka "Kelly2010" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Friday Kennidi 10-5:30 aka "Kennidikummings" Robyn 10-11 aka "robynxoxo" Taylor 10-4 aka "Taylor-_xo" Maya 3:30-11 aka "Midnight Maya" Jennie 5-11 Saturday Maya 10-9 aka "Midnight Maya" Kelly 10-9 aka "Kelly2010" Jennie 10-9 Kennidi 10-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Sunday Maya 10-4 aka "Midnight Maya" Robyn 10-9 aka "robynxoxo" Jennie 10-9 Pandora 10-4 aka "Pandora" Lexi 3:30-9 aka "Sexy Lexi"

I like where you are going Cat. What we offer is a luxury and not a necessity. Luxuries are purchased with disposable income or with monies expressly saved for the luxuries we desire. If you do not have the available funds for such a luxury then you must either save up or keep on dreaming! Bargaining for an item is one thing but bargaining for someone's time is insulting! Do your research and find someone who offers what you can afford or settle for the palm sisters.

Absolutely! Why not? It works both ways. I expect an SP to charge as much as she can get.

How about the British singer, Englebird Humperdink (not sure if I spelled it correctly, but it is still hilarious!)

However, purchasing a house is quite a bit different then services of a provider. I would be very careful about comparing purchasing a house to purchasing time with a provider. Purchasing a house is an inanimate object - a service provider is providing a service. Who goes into McDonalds, and says, hey, a burger at Burger King is cheaper, so I want a Big Mac and want to pay what Burger King charges. Those that negotiate, also want EVERYTHING included for the lower rate. Those that say they only want a BJ also want once they get there to kiss, finger and greek for the lower rate. This is why we get so upset with those that try to negotiate. Even after being told not to negotiate, these guys will try to make to make the provider feel bad about her rates and say "that's too high, please can I get a deal?" In this business, and probably the only business that I am aware of, negotiating is never ok. Just don't do it.

First of all, it is RMT - not RTM. RMT means REGISTERED Massage Therapy. In order to be an RMT, they must follow among other things, a code of ethics, code of practices, carry liability insurance and other issues. One of the code of practices states: Client to be draped, so that the client's genitalia or gluteal cleft are not exposed. According to the code of ethics, they must being alert to and reporting, as required, any unethical practice by any member of MTAM; reporting to appropriate authorities any health care practitioner who abuses a client physically, verbally, sexually or financially; I could easily be an RMT, however, I choose not to, as I would not be able to provide services other then massage therapy. If you want to use your health coverage to pay for massage therapy, that is what you will get. However, if you want anything extra and have your health provider pay for your happy ending, you will most likely get charged with fraud and possibly sexual assault. When I go to my doctor for a pap test, and I asked if he could also give me a fuck at the same time (after all, my legs are open, and he just has to insert his penis inside me), he would be drummed out of physicians college for this. There is no difference in getting an RMT to do this then getting my gyno to give me a happy ending - after all, my medical coverage should pay for this - right? Please, don't try to get RMT's to give you a happy ending and get your health coverage to pay for this. The RMT would consider this sexual assault, and most likely report you to the police for trying. If you want anything extra, find a provider that gives this service. And of course, your health coverage should not have to pay for this - this is something you have to pay for.

I've had people text me those kinds of negotiating questions and I say to them "Would you like to go to work for free today or have your boss tell you that you will only be paid X amount?" No I didn't think so! Don't negotiate. It's tacky and will not get you anywhere! Think about the outcome of all this...you go to see the SP and she is completely resenting you. You think you're going to get good service? I highly doubt it. This is why the better and more reputable SPs will NOT take whatever they can get. We actually care and take pride in our services and our rates are on par with that. We enjoy what we do for a living but at the same time we also have bills to pay, mortgages and other things to take care of . Don't mistake the fact that just because a person enjoys what they do has to accept a lesser rate. In fact, they should be getting paid their asking rate because the experience will be that much better. Taking an intimate encounter with a woman and turning it into all dollars and cents and what can you get for this or that completely cheapens the entire experience. If someone is looking for that, they can hit the streets and look there. You definitely get what you pay for!

Thanks, Meg! Same goes for "can you price match another lady's rate?" Sure, only if she charges more then I do! lol

As a new member (only his second post here) Moose0409 is not able to post in the recommendation area unless a this lady already has a recommendation thread started. If she does you may want to include a LINK to it and explain this to him as he would be able to leave his comments on an existing recommendation for the lady.

Is there a particular agency your wondering about? Have you looked through the bait and switch section? When in doubt use tineye doll.

I have one and only one genuine fear. My father. I didn't actually think I would survive to see 18 and when I was allowed to leave my family house, I knew I was walking away from the most dangerous situation I would ever be in. There are things I'm not fond of but they don't cause me angst. My stomach flips with heights that I'm unsecured upon but I still mastered trapeze and love standing on the edge of the Grand Canyon. I'm not fond of swimming in a deep body of water with seaweed tangling in my feet but I won't hesitate to dive off the boat to cool off. I don't like the look of swarms of anything or the holes in sponges but they don't panic me. I have no fear of what follows this life and have experienced holding someone when they die. Nothing I have ever experienced in my work or adult personal life comes anywhere near the genuine terror I experience from even seeing a picture of my father. The way I see it, if I survived him, there is nothing and no one out there big enough or mean enough to cause me any genuine harm and when you have no fear, no one even tries to fuck with you imo. Funny thing tho. One of my best friends is a doppleganger for my dad. They could be brothers and yet I adore this man. I think what attracted me to him to begin with was that he looked like my dad but his energy was so warm and genuine that I was just drawn in. 5 years later, we are very close and I often wonder if somewhere in our family tree we share a gene string or two. My father nicknamed me Cat. He told everyone I had nine lives and he was working his way thru them but had lost count of how many I had left. I guess I got out before he used up all nine... cat

reverse cowgirl FTW

Here's a REAL life example and the parents just don't seem to understand Holden Hiscock That poor child....

Savannah Lane, you sound like a lady after my own heart, bless you!!! We may be providers but we're hot blooded ladies as well which means we get turned on, hungry and have the same cravings as anyone else. This means sometimes we restrain ourselves because of time or the gentleman's own behavior/actions. Thankfully there are times we don't have to. If you gentleman think you don't impact us the same way you say we impact you, you are SO wrong. One of the amazingly wonderful things about this job!

Oh I love and hate the getting dressed time. I love it because its a sexy time where playful interaction is genuine and passionate. I hate it because it means our time is almost over, and 9 times out of 10, I genuinely don't want it to end. It is why I don't offer HH sessions. It isn't long enough for ME. I have had situations where I've been dressed, he's been dressed, and the playful after interactions have lead to more playtime (again, neither was in a hurry) and it was very much off the clock. I have also very VERY much wanted a client to stay... And cursed to myself at their perfect manners and respect of my time! Lol I always lay out their clothes while they are in the shower also... And am always close by while they dress. Usually I can't keep my hands off them.... Mmm!

I understand that you're feeling impatient and want answers to your questions, as well as some tips and strategies about how to do things. Every question you've asked about the law is answered, several times, in the Legal discussion and most are referred to extensively in other areas, as well. For the most part, the best information comes from established, long-time members of the board so pay particular attention to their posts. When it comes to things like strategies for working outcalls, transportation, etc., those are important considerations and most are also discussed on the boards, here. Frankly, the best way for you to learn how to deal with these things would be to start with a good agency. Since you've not said where you are, it will be difficult for anyone here to make a recommendation in your area. Please don't take offense at what I'm going to say, but this part of your post is likely to be considered deeply insulting, not only to many of the ladies here, but also to many of the gentlemen as well. One critical thing that you need to understand is that the best so-called "high end" paid companions defend and are protective of women who work outdoors and those who have health problems and addictions. You won't find much tolerance on this board for denigrating any SP, anywhere, because of her looks or personal habits. We do discuss safer sex all the time and while we generally advise prospective clients to seek companionship from a reputable independent or a good agency, we don't put down women who, for many serious and difficult reasons, face so many challenges that they must work in compromising conditions. Your assumption that many companions offer poor quality and/or unsafe encounters is troubling. I don't know which sex workers' blogs you have been reading, or where you get your information, but as someone who has worked as an independent for many years, both in Toronto and in Vancouver, what you describe is not my experience, anywhere. No one should have to engage in activities she deems to be unsafe. Ever. I have to say, though, that I think your problems will have to do with not knowing how to screen potential clients and not knowing how to manage the volume of requests you would receive as a "new girl." These are also reasons to begin to work with a good agency. Starting out as an independent is tempting, but it's frequently a very bad idea. Yes, you'll make less per call with an agency. But you'll also have lower expenses and you'll be working with people who do know what they're doing and how the industry works. You need that knowledge and expertise behind you and, frankly, you don't have it yet. Without it, you will inevitably get into trouble. Are you aware that this statement verges on hostility? If you truly believe these things, I have to say that you don't really understand what the misconceptions and myths about the sex trade are. Speaking for myself, I have been a paid companion for over a decade. I have never engaged in any activity that I felt was unsafe--assuming, that is, that you're referring to things that increase one's potential for exposure to STIs. I'm also old enough to be your mother. I have never considered myself to be in competition with anyone. I work hard and I make a good living. I attribute my success to accepting the realities of this profession, to identifying my particular market niche and serving it very well, and to gaining the respect of my colleagues. That last thing--the respect of colleagues--is essential. If you do decide to work as a paid companion, no one, no matter how well-meaning or close to you, will understand what your life is really like. You will need the support and care of other companions so that you can stay safe, make good decisions and get support when things go wrong. No one ever avoids having things go wrong, regardless of what they may say. But there are ways to avoid some problems that you may not even imagine exist and there are ways to manage the things that you can't avoid. In general, we don't discuss these things in public forums. You will need to gain others' support in order to have access to this information. If you're just investigating this as an option, I would recommend that you find something else or some other way to take care of your problems. The sex trade is not the right thing for most women. If you're seriously considering becoming a paid companion, my advice is to step back, take some calming breaths and clear your mind. Only a minute percentage of women enter the sex trade because it's their ideal, intended career path. Nearly everyone has had some significant problem in her life and suddenly needs to earn a lot of money fairly quickly. In other words, most don't start out in the best frame of heart and mind. You can still do it, but you need to be careful, you need to be thoughtful and you need to learn to listen. An arrogant attitude will be a liability. Over-confidence is a mask for fear that prevents addressing the things that cause fear to begin with.

From the female and/or Provider perspective, I salute all of the wonderful Cerb ladies for their posts, their advice and their friendship. I covet the women who have made such a wonderful impact on my life and covet those that shall in the future. Cerb ladies rock!

The ladies of CERB deserve a salute. Those who I've had the pleasure of meeting have provided me with intimacy for a few hours, an escape which brightens up my life. It is intimacy that a price is put on, but it's real value, you can't put a price on And for those ladies on CERB I haven't met in person, but on the board, or through pm's, your insights and contributions have and are valued, and I'm honoured you are willing to share your thoughts And to all the ladies, both those I have met, and those I have only met virtually through CERB, you have made me a better man So a heartfelt thank you goes out from me to all the ladies. What you do is appreciated much much more than you know My salute to the women of CERB RG

I'd go back and visit my 16 year old self and inform him of everything my 39 year old self now knows, then I'll have known then what I know now....

For me, this would be early in the morning of Sept 11, 2001......have those lunatics arrested one by one, as they boarded the planes...... Imagine how different the world would be now....not to mention that there would be no Afghanistan war, which would spare the precious lives of so many of our young Canadian hero's, who sacrifice their lives far too often....... Then, I would have my first duo, to celebrate what I had just done for mankind !!!