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I've had to cancel less than 12 times in years. Sometimes, it cannot be helped. However, if I have to cancel a session and when they rebook, I discount the next session. It isn't some lame $20 off either. We put in work for our sessions, re-arrange schedules, drop plans, I even dropped my basket shopping and fled the store once. On top of me being presentable, so does my location. I am OCD and often that is part of the hour notice. (drive home, 10 second tidy, get room prepared, towels etc, and then get MYSELF ready) Winnipeg has been HORRIBLE for no shows, double, triple booking girls. That no show section grew an amazing amount in 4 months. It has gotten to the point, I have to check the number in the bad date section before I agree to an appointment. I am also seriously considering a pre-booking fee and a cancellation fee. If all of these touring girls with extensive booking requirements and deposit requirements can do it, I feel I can do the same. How touring girls choose to book is totally understandable, I just don't understand why I am met with so much reluctance. I also feel if you lost your nerve and try to walk in and out you should pay some sort of fee. We just exposed ourselves (literally) and our location. Is that fair? Do we know where you live? As a Greek provider, whether you partake or not, you owe that fee. It is a specialty service that requires more preparation. Do you order a meal and not pay for it even if you only had a bite and there's nothing wrong with it? SD

A this point in my life I really don't care what others think. I dress how I want, I act how I wish and defy anyone to make me feel differently! Life is too short to conform to the trappings of society's perceived notions of maturity! In short, do and be what makes you happy!

Ladies will ask for a deposit or request a cancellation fee, there is far too many guys that try and play the "book ya game"...yes and the "book ya game" as artist of the game,they like to book up space, than cancel within less than 12 hours. Meanwhile a gent like myself with good reputation,and have been verified/screened wanted that time, gets that last hour text and she tells me she now available..... to be quite honest,that pisses me off to no end. The fee's are there for a purpose, for the lady to protect her business, and for guys not to fuck them over with pulling a quick cancellation. It's a known fact that even agencies that are competitors will call the other and book time with a visiting SP too (Some ladies may use a agency in a city to represent them), and that is to simply "fuck over the competition" It goes without saying those that might be known as a tire kicker/time wasters may have to pay those security deposits, but I don't blame the ladies at all. Those that have a great rapport with ladies, actually sometimes don't have to pay a security deposit as we have been "Okayed" and verified AS good clients,but we would pay the cancellation fee is something drastically happen. I had a session not to long ago we were into our 3 hour session and by 1.5 hours, I received and family emergency text ( we were both taking a break after half way through and checking messages ) I had to leave, I left her of course the full donation when we first started so when I was getting dressed she gave me back some cash. I told her "no" I booked up her time, she said "No you're a great client and I know you will be back." :) Plus I've seen her numerous times. Shit does happen from time to time,but I like to think if you build your reputation as a good client, good things happen to those. Yes, I have had many...many...cancellations done to myself from ladies over my time, and some legit reasoning and I have been well compensated the next visit :) Like less fee,or more time, but those ladies that never responded back OR gave myself a reasonable explanation, well, I simply ignore them and they never see a cent of my coin ever. I work hard for my money as well, and I don't like being fucked over when taking time from my business,driving to and from her place and not even getting an apology, having said that, that was years back and I learned my lesson who to see, and I stick with reputable ladies, just like they stick with reputable gents. "Time is money" So lets's not waste it, it isn't fair in this business.

The lady is within her rights to request and expect a deposit or cancellation fee. For the gentlemen, this lifestyle is an escape, an indulgence if you will. For the ladies this lifestyle is their livelihood! (emphasized because it seems to be something forgotten by some) If a lady cancels or no shows the worst for the guy is he doesn't have an encounter with her....but he does get to keep his money and can possibly set up another encounter with another lady If a guy cancels, that was time the lady set aside for him on the belief she would get income (remember, this is their job, their livelihood) It was time she could have used to see a paying client instead of setting aside for what turns out a no show/no income period of time. Instead she has, for that period of time, made no money...money to pay the rent, groceries, bills, possibly support her kids (yes, some ladies are also mothers) That's not to mention other expenses. The lady may have booked a hotel room for incalls , may also tour (which has added expenses involved). She could be paying for a hotel room, plane ticket, meals, incidentals etc, based on seeing a paying client. If a guy is a no show or cancellation then she from a business perspective just has expenses yet no income. Her profit loss statement is a loss If you schedule an encounter with a lady, carry through with the encounter. If you can't make it and are a no show or cancellation, pay a cancellation fee to the lady. You already have the money (or should have) so no excuse for not compensating the lady for her financial loss because you couldn't keep your commitment. And let's not forget something else. I've read posts, mostly in other boards (which thrive on negativity btw imho) about the lady being five minutes late or along those lines, and bashing her to holy hell...I read posts by those "men" I want to bash them (but I digress) But those same type of "men" seem to think it's ok to no show or cancel on a lady without compensating her someway. If you cancel and get a reputation for being a habitual canceller, well it isn't just between you and the lady, ladies talk to one another, and you will get known, and not in a good way A rambling from a guy who paid a lady her donation in full plus tip when he couldn't make an encounter due to illness. At least financially it wasn't a loss for the lady RG

Deposits And Cancellation Fees..for real?! Yes, for real LOL Every lady runs their business the way they want/need. If you don't appreciate certain specific business models, I am positive you will find many others who will accommodate your needs ;) I am one of the ladies who require a deposit under certain circumstances and also has a cancellation policy. Why you might ask? So people who are not serious about meeting with me or are not reliable do not waste my time. Cheers :)

I find it unfortunate you feel this way as a man with some grey hair, salt and pepper or a totally white head is damn sexy!!! I know a lot of ladies who love this, including myself :)

If a client jerks an SP around enough ( cancelling multiple times) or no shows her then it's justified. Don't waste their time by doing this and there won't be a problem. Most won't call back and are considered time wasters and would be blacklisted by the SP. And if an SP did this, there would be holy hell to pay for if it were a last minute cancellation or she no showed. A professional SP will make it up to the client at a reduced rate or more time offered. If a client is intent on seeing a certain SP then keep the appt or cancel in sufficient amount of time. Other businesses will ask for the same so why should it be any different for an SP? I recently missed a hair appt because I was sick and cancelled on short notice and had to pay a cancellation fee of $100. Why? because it's policy and I respect the guy who's been doing my hair for the last 13 years and he is losing money. Short term cancellations aren't that easy to replace right away. And I also respect him and what he does.

well this is the time in my life when I say farewell and see you later.. I would love to thank everybody for welcoming me into cerb with open arms and open hearts!! cerb has showed me how genuine and true this business can be!! and I definitely love having the pleasure of having everybody's company even the people I have not yet met.. the last two years here in Ottawa have been wonderful and I'm very thankful, I have made some wonderful true friends and I have worked for the best woman I could ever have worked for ever Angie!!! so this is definitely not goodbye but its just see you later xoxoxo I wish nothing but the best for everyone much love. my very last day here will be August 25th kennidi kummings

I never had a duo experience before, so I didn't know what I was expecting. The experience was amazing. They're both lovely ladies who were very enthusiastic. I definitely want to repeat as soon as possible

This is something I am keenly aware of. As a woman in her 40's, I don't want to wander around out in the world giving off the impression I forgot my age when I dressed that morning. At the same time, I refuse to wear the shapeless uniform of the maturing woman. I love timeless looks, attire that would "wow" on a 20 year old as well as a 60 year old. Remaining current doesn't mean not being age appropriate, it just means utilizing the age acquired wisdom of making good choices. Do I wear over the knee boots? Absolutely! But not with a mini skirt or hot pants! Do I wear form fitting clothes? Yes! But not in styles or lengths that display skin or are unflattering and I always pair it with a piece that adds a touch of modesty. If I have to wear something that is ultra conservative, I punch it up with killer shoes and knock out accessories to express my inner age. The greatest challenge is my work "look". I love the sexy outfits that accentuate my shape but the spandex club dresses are simply not me anymore so I find myself drawn to great classic outfits and spice them up with a shortened hemline and perhaps lower the neckline or the back for visual impact. Taking a classic business suit and making it a little more sexy is a fun way to add umph to my work wardrobe. Being age appropriate doesn't mean loosing your individuality, it just means recognizing what works and what doesn't... cat

The place you are looking for is Oasis (look for their profile here) Only 3 min drive from Train yards, is in an office building and nobody can see you comming in our out... The building even has parking at the back of the building and entrance by the back... Is a Licenced studio by the city.. Discrete, clean and best yet you can meet amazing attendents like myself ;)

I haven't worn jeans in a few years. I have found wonderful fakes that look like skinny jeans but are really just leggings. They look real (pockets and zipper). I can't find them anymore but bought a shit load about a yr and a half ago so I am good for a bit longer!

I'm getting really excited for this :) Now the fun part -- shopping for something suitable to wear :)

For those of that travel, incur expenses and then have someone not show or give bogus information on their location, I tell them if they want to re-book, they owe me for the time I wasted the last time. Seems fair to me. Why would I incur expenses for someone who disrespects me by not showing without a valid reason? I had a client that I went to see, drove an hour to see him. He gave me a bogus address (even though I had properly screened him, the address he gave me was valid, just not his). Said he was at another address that did not exist. So, I ended up wasting 3 hours of my time (and gas). He now owes me at least travelling money. If he chooses to re-book me, he must give me a deposit equivalent to the money he already wasted, and now for the portion of this call, so that if by chance he is again a non-productive call, at least I am not out more money. Of course, he is also blacklisted so that other ladies go in to meeting him with their eyes open to what he did to me. They will decide if he needs a deposit to see him. For those that are well respected among other sp's, I am not as concerned about getting a deposit from them. I always say, just don't do it. If you can't make your appointment, give lots of notice, don't waste ladies time because they will remember this and if you can't give notice, give a cancellation fee for her missed opportunity. Simple really.

Many SP's get tremendous amounts of cancellations and it's just bad for their business. Some of them just get sick of it and have to charge a fee. I guess it should happen to people that have cancelled more than once because that's a little sketchy. I'm really not surprised SP's are doing this though.

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Ladies and gents, its now official !! The Ottawa September Social will be held Thursday, September 19th, so mark your calendar!! There will be 60 spots available (30 gents and 30 ladies) for members in good standing. Gents, tickets will be made available soon, at a cost of $35, which will cover snacks, drinks for the ladies and door prizes. I will keep everyone up to date via this thread as things progress. As it's an event organized by CERB members for members, you can contact myself, Loneskater or Spud271 directly should you have questions. Cheers!! MisterT

I am starting this thread for Ottawa Cerb Foodies :) As you know the city of Ottawa has now allowed food trucks to serve gourmet foods now. here are some links: http://ottawa.ca/en/business/business-licenses-applications-and-permits/business-licensing/new-street-food-vending http://streetfoodapp.com/ottawa http://www.urbanspoon.com/t/250/21/Ottawa/Food-Truck-restaurants Today I tried a truck called Angry Dragonz, it is a asian food truck. serves korean style food. I had their special Dragonz rice bowl. It came with rice, fish roe, asian cole slaw, 3 skewers of meat, chicken, beef and lamb and I ordered an egg roll on the side. the egg roll was great. similar to Golden place egg rolls. the meats were tender and delicious, there were several bottles of various sauces you could use. The meal was very good. the lineup was pretty long, but moved fast, I was number 20 and had to wait about 30 minutes. I highly recommend this truck. Another truck I wanted to try is Ad Mare, it is a seafood truck that serves fish and chips, fish tacos, and lobster rolls, but everytime I go by there are over 50 people in line. Going to have to go early one day. Let's here your experience and reviews of the food truck you have tried :)

I think your right. I think it is old school if you will. The numbers won't decide for me if I want to see a lady. Yes, I do look at a lady's photos, but that doesn't decide for me either. What I like to hear, well read from a lady is her posts, pm's and emails. That gives me an idea of whether she is someone I would like to meet, whether we will click. And it is ladies' posts, ladies of all different measurements btw, that intrigued me and wanted me to contact them and meet them A rambling RG

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I don't really know fashion enough to have a particular favourite kind personally. But I do have a topless in jeans fetish. (And looky here, a website just for that!) But back on topic for this thread, if it makes any difference, I'm wearing a pair of jeans now that if someone were to unzip my fly, they'll have something to read - says "You're getting lucky!". These jeans are now my favourite for this sole reason.

I am in my mid 20's...and my style of clothing hasn't really change in the past 5-7 years. I do love my short short and small tank top My wardrobe is such a mix of everything...I (literally) have a short maxi dress that barely cover my butt, next to a long sleeve /knee length conservative dress , next to a a goth dress, next to a mediaeval dress with a train , next to a Middle Earth map dress.

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Personally, I prefer to see the traveling gentleman at an upscale hotel when I accept a date in Montreal (hometown). If I accept an outcall date from a local gentleman in MTL, I make sure that his private residence is not in a suburb I frequent for personal reasons. With that said, I much prefer spending time with local (or traveling) gentlemen in Ottawa (or other cities) as it offers me a lot more discretion and privacy when my personal life is concerned. The only thing I can tell you about seeing the lovely local ladies in Kingston is that if you decide to spend time with one (or more) of them, you have to be prepared to accept the fact that you might run into one of them at some point, somewhere and hopefully, they will value discretion and privacy as much as you do.

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All good responses so far, I hope your question has been answered, but I thought I'd add my two cents... A gentleman would not have to be charged a cancellation fee, read RG's post for the definition of gentleman! As for deposits, they would be required for several reasons...a travelling lady is time limited and would usually expect her expenses as a deposit, a local lady booking a new member with no references or no post history (like you) may look for a deposit of half just for security and to get a feel for whether or not you are a gentleman, or perhaps you habitually cancel and have a bad rep amongst the ladies (they do talk to each other!). You didn't specify whom you 'heard' this from, but I would go back and ask this person which category above they fit themselves into! Life is good today, don't waste a minute of it!

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In my experience, direct-to-massage results in a mediocre encounter. Direct-to-kiss, on the other hand.... :D

It's because for a very long time women WERE considered the father's property, and if she was "sullied" she'd be almost worthless in those terms. So protecting the daughter's virginal state was important -- not so much for HER sake, but for the benefit of the family that "owned" her and was counting on marrying her off profitably someday. The idea of the woman as property has been mostly (mostly!) glossed over these days, but the wedding transaction still has some of those anachronistic elements in plain sight -- the father still "gives away" the bride to her new owner after all. (Were I in that circumstance, I hope I'd tell my father to mind his own business and give myself away, thanks very much.) The conservative elements in our culture still cling to these hopeless and backward attitudes in the form of "cherished traditions". It's nice to see the dad in the article with a level head. I like his approach. Arm your children with good judgement. When it's time, have some frank and non-creepy, unashamed talks with them about sexuality, its psychological context, and its pitfalls as well as rewards. And build a relationship such that you don't constantly impose your "help" and "advice", but your kids still know they can come to you those times they decide they need it. Then they can enter relationships and sexual situations with their eyes open... and you need to trust them to use that judgement on their own behalf. Inspecting every prospective partner and presuming to bestow a "guess I'll leave the shotgun over there this time" approval will just cause a daughter to hide her boyfriends as long as she can.

Love the lighting in this one too.

@stevemcqueen, honestly, it doesn't matter what the lady wants, it matters what YOU want. If you want to only see a lady once and move on, keep it entirely sexually based and leave no room for a connection of any sort to develop, than that is the way you should behave. You are not making promises or being phony, you are utilizing the aspects of this business that fit your needs. This means you may have to pick and chose between ladies and pass over those who are seeking to make connections but that is the beauty of this industry, you can have your needs met in whatever way you choose. You just have to find a match for those needs. There are a variety of ladies here, some who prefer GFE, some PSE, for me it's a VPE in that I adapt to whatever you're seeking while still being myself. There is someone for everyone and as such, no right or wrong, it just IS what it is.

WOW! Reading these posts I feel like I've been in the forest starving for the last 20 years and I've just stumbled upon a HUGE smorgasbord! I WORSHIP MATURE WOMAN!

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No. I don't want my clients to expect anything but good service and for me to be myself with them. To expect a connection is much like expecting to win the lotto, imo. We can both hope for one, as a connection makes sex so much better however you are meeting with a stranger, someone with whom you've met briefly online through posts, emails, phone calls etc. So to expect anything beyond good service is preparing yourself for a possible let down. Gfe sessions don't imply we offer a connection, for me they mean I'm going to be more open, uninhibited, more romantic, but a connection, well if it happens great, can't and shouldn't be promised. After all its not something that can be acted or roleplayed imo. A connection is something that's natural that just happens between two like individuals, its chemistry:)

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It is a SCAM and when I have time I love to waste their time. I act all concerned when they tell me I have a virus that's affecting the whole network but not to worry they will help me. So I play dumb and have them guide me through the processes to rid my computer of viruses. What they try to convince you to do is to disable certain security on your computer that would allow them to install a msn type appllication that will allow them remote operation of your computer, in doing so they can install keystroke and spyware software and also install a virus cleaner that will prompt you to purchase a spyware cleaner of course for that you need to give them your credit card info. So I like to fumble my way around the computer and pretend like I don't know what I'm doing and just frustrate the hell out of them. Other times when I don't have the time I tell them "yes there is a message on my computer" they act all concerned and helpful and ask that I read it out to them. I tell them yes it says " Microsoft windows has detected that you are being scammed over the telephone please advise the caller to FUCK OFF" Usually they reply back with a barrage of slurs and nonsensical insults, my favorite being when the gentleman on the phone told me " you sir put your penis into your anus!" and then hung up on me, LOL

As was mentioned in the pre-planning thread, the Sep social will be held at a new venue. Main reason behind, is that our previous location was becoming to public. This is the second time we have to change location for discretion purposes. There aren't too many places in the downtown core that can hold such a large group on Thursday so we would like to keep the same place for a while. Therefore I would like to remind everyone that the location is on a need to know basis. It will not be revealed until much later and only to those that are attending. So please keep it to yourself. All we will revealed for now is that it is in the downtown core so easy to get there by various transportation means. Keep in mind that discretion is extremely important in this business for ladies and gents. This is suppose to be an office party (meet and greet) so we have to be careful of what is being said in front of the staff. Also use of certain handles should be avoided. I don't think many offices has someone named Loneskater!!! Hope everyone has a great time and gets to meet new people. MisterT and I have already done a quality assurance check on the beer. it did meet our standards on all our visits. lol

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Recommendation on his first post about a new spa... Full of compliments. Where is this spa? Has anyone heard of this spa yet? From the names, I get some Asian vibrations... But this smells a bit funny. . . Maybe someone ought to become a paid advertiser and put messages like this in the other section. BTW, I don't have a clue about what 'gental' is. Should we go by sound and assume he meant 'gentle' or was this a typo where he missed typing an 'i' somewhere in the middle of the word?

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This is a very common thing with the ladies... Always looking for the "Reason" the business gets slow at times and always looking for answers as to why they get no shows and cancellation more at different times of the year. Most NO SHOWS can be stopped by screening your calls properly. Use the Caller ID and CALL BACK the number to verify it. Most guys will not pull a NO SHOW on someone without having the decency to call and properly cancel if you have their number. They know that come appointment time one very upset SP is going to give them a call asking WTF! It's not 100% but it sure helps for those who screen calls. It also makes the call a little more safer as that phone number is now a connection between the guy and the lady... I doubt someone dangerous is going to want to leave a number that can be traced back to them. Most of the ladies look for reasons when things are slow. I guess most of us do that when the business we are in takes a drop in sales/traffic/work load/etc.... You can spend a good portion of your day trying to figure this one out but it's not really worth the effort. It's WAY easier to just plan for these lows (Put some money aside for the slow periods) and just accept that this is part of EVERY business and it will happen. Stop stressing out and trying to point a finger at what you think is causing the slowness as your just going to convince yourself of something that is probably not correct. We have been tracking patterns in this industry since 1996 and the answer for this is... (Drum roll please)... It has no pattern EXCEPT for a few obvious LOW spots. 1) The end of Aug is SLOW every year! (Kids out of school, getting ready to go back to school, family summer vacations, etc...) This is the most popular summer weekend in the tourist industry!! 2) 1 week before and 1 week after Xmass (No need to explain this one right?) New years day too? NOT... 3) January/February for 2 weeks every year (We sum this up to winter blues and getting your credit card statements from Xmass! but we never know what two weeks it will be but for sure 2 weeks around this time it does drop... one year we did not see this and come April we saw a real low drop for 2 weeks and that was obvious weather patterns (Long winter/early spring ... warm winter/cold spring etc...) it does effect this business and you never know when this is coming exactly... so just put some cash aside for these times. 4) First nice weekend of spring (A lot of the ladies take this time off too) 5) Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentines, long weekends, really large sporting events (etc)... they also effect the business. The rest has NO identifiable pattern. You can try to blame it on the economy as a low economy brings more people into this business causing more competition and the overall amount of "Recreational money" the guys have gets a lot smaller so yes the economy does effect it but a low economy BUT it also brings more guys (New guys) in to the mix as well so it's not hit as hard as one would assume. Remember money and sex are the two big things couples fight about... When the economy drops and the money gets tight the stress levels go up, the fighting between couples goes up and the sex stops!! FACT OF LIFE... and I hate to admit it but that is good for this business for all you ladies!! When economy starts to get good again business will decrease a little at first! It's OPPOSITE of what everyone ASSUMES! As for NO SHOWS... This time of year it will obviously be higher. Kids are still home from school, Family vacations, relatives coming for visits, back to school shopping, etc.. etc... and all those people taking time OFF work for family vacations makes other people have to work more (Overtime to cover shifts, higher work loads, etc) it's all relevant.... A lot of LAST MINUTE things come up this time of the year for the "Family Man" and well... kids and family (for most people) come first so recreational visits take a back seat so stuff will get canceled more this time of year. Picture this... The guy is all ready to come see the lady he has chosen and the door bell rings and it's his brother or uncle or who knows who just "DROPS BY" for a visit... URH!? Probably with his annoying kids and wife... (Many of us have been in similar situations) This happens EVERY YEAR... Come September 17th (Or around that time) once the kids are back in school and the routine is back... things will pick up. Summer sucks as a lot more things can get in the way or throw a guys schedule off. Don't spend all your time looking for reasons why the business slows down.... it happens to EVERY PROVIDER & EVERY BUSINESS ... It can not be busy 100% of the time and it does take a little planning and anticipation.