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I don't want to sound rude (although I think you might need that) but I'd like to take a second to focus on the girl. Yes, this is obviously a professional relationship but I'm gong to wager that the girl sees you as a person, a person she probably doesn't want to hurt. This puts her in an awkward position. I've in the same one a few times now and it sucks. At least most of the time the guys involved were sweet genuine people. You seem unhinged and, worse than that, spiteful. Your original post was a little unsettling but I would have held my tongue had I not seen your older posts. The fact that you push these things on her is not only unfair but hurtful. When you post that she doesn't like her job or that she left you feeling unsatisfied you are not only hurting her but, potentially, her livelihood. I am currently taking time off because I had an past client that did what you did. It is a catch 22 for the provider. You cant defend yourself without it sounding bad and doing nothing is almost admitting guilt. Juggle the business side with that fact that it hurts to hurt someone. It bugs me (and probably many others) when I cannot give a person i care for what they want. Providing companionship is a difficult thing to do. Many of us get very close with the people we see and it can be emotionally draining. I'd wager that is why so many good girls have left the biz. Do everyone a favor and leave the poor girl alone. Figure out your own stuff, maybe you are not cut out for the hobby at all. Sorry I just could'nt stay silent on this one

He wanted his account closed... his wish was easily accommodated. No need for that sort of venting here.

Usually when I see a post like this, my anti-PC side comes out and I become a sarcastic prick and add a comment about what a kiss-ass the author is. Always in good fun, not to ridicule but bring balance to too much goo! Lol But this time, Curious, you hit that one out of the park! And all this sarcastic prick can do is totally agree! Having been on these other boards I can't believe the lack of class so often displayed. Now, even though I find this site a little too rosie at times, it certainly beats the outragious negativity found on the other ones! Although unacceptable, this "business", like every other, has unfortunately fallen victim to today's culturally acceptable practice of using social-media and the anonymity of hiding behind a keyboard to say the most heinous things about a "product", "service" or "company". Now I won't get into why all this is wrong in this particular "business", the author as already done a better job that I could've anyway but I will say it's an ugly path we're on. In the end though it's all about adding my voice to others in saying thank you to all the incredible ladies I've met in this "business". You've given me so much, so much of yourselves and for that I am greatly appreciative.

Frankly you made it everyone's business by posting for everyone here to see. If you don't want any more posts now, you shouldn't have made that second last post...at least now the ladies here all know what you really think of them, not to mention the CERB community as a whole RG

You started this thread for advice, no? I think the responses, for the most part have been well intended. You have obviously made up your mind and are not open to hearing differing points of view and perhaps taking the opinions and reflecting on them and how they may potentially affect your predicament. Attacking people who are simply offering up an opinion to the question posed by you is not a great solution. I wish you the best and hope that you come to a workable solution to your dilemma.

It didn't work out that way because: This will sound cold but I hope your ego finally understands what it accomplished; you created this mess by pushing boundaries and by willingly seeking and pursuing "love" and "freebies" from your MA(s) while knowing full well this was a unique professional intimate business relationship. I guess you now have a new challenge on your plate... Destructive behavior (drugs, alcohol, etc.) will never help you solve your problems and will only make them worst. Please, do yourself a favor and deal with the situation effectively starting with having a clear and objective head and with the will to let her go and to forget about her. Hopefully the lady will also refuse to see you in the future so you can move forward! If you decide to contact her again and she accepts to see you again, it will do you NO good and you will only keep running in never ending circles. Someone once said: Using your head would do to but I think that was pretty good advice! ............................................................................................... For what it's worth, maybe not for you but for others, when seeing a lady: - Always keep it real - Go in with clear and honest intentions; a simple massage, relaxation, conversation and a happy ending with a sexy and friendly lady- nothing more. If you have (or start having) alternative motives, this is when it will get complicated for both parties involved. - Don't ever try to change the nature of the professional relationship. Always remember that you are the client and she is the service provider. - If you are looking for/want/need personal friends with benefits, try dating sites. Professional ladies are not involved in this lifestyle to find personal lovers or personal friends. - Always keep it real (did I already say that?) - If you (or she) start having "feelings", walk/run away. It is the only smart thing to do. If you decide to "go with the flow" and see where it goes, be well aware it might not end the way you wanted it to. - Blurring boundaries, wanting more and going through with it usually never ends well. - If you really enjoy a good challenge, learn a new language ;) The list could be much longer but I guess this is a good start!

Don't ask for advice then from w****s, pimps and Johns then when you don't hear the answer or solution that you want to hear. We're not here to hold your hand. You cearly have issues and you're right... solve your own problems.

Some shots I actually took,

A favourite of mine,

I just had a session with the Amazing Angela and she is as described; witty, gorgeous and knew which buttons of mine to press. A great experience for me. I did remark to her how much she looked like Vivian who is another wonderful MP. I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her as well. You won't go wrong spending time with either of these delightful ladies.

The message regarding customer expectations at an amp are getting through to management. Unfortunately the quality and skill level of some attendants still needs improvement. I've pretty much seen each masseuse several times. Jane and Mya are generally able to focus on the task at hand, others less so. Sessions should be undisturbed and drama free and not an opportunity to chat with other attendants. We are looking for one-hour of friendly, relaxing and undisturbed attention. Since it's our money, put on a happy (not gruff) face and learn to act, even if you're not really into it. Oh, and put the damn phones on answering machine when there is only one person working and that person is in a session.

Are you effin serious dude ? Who are you to judge what and how this woman chooses to earn ? Pretty ballsy of you to be so judgmental not only of her but of the other men of CERB. Do you have any proof or factual statistical information that meeting men from cerb is dangerous to her or the "little one" ? There is a huge fetish market for pregnant women and just because you don't understand it doesn't mean you can judge her or anyone who's into that. You probably do some freaky shit that might disgust some so save your judgment and read the credo of this site "if you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all" You cast the first stone in this case so prepare to have many stones come back to you. While I'm here do you know how ineffective your post is because of your ignorant and immature use of the word retarded ? Wow what an offensive word, so hurtful and totally in appropriate and way off base. Doesn't feel so nice to be judged now does it ?

There are many threads that address individual issues that come during the course of our days in this wonderful hobby, and while surfing I have come across several good outlines for conducting oneself. But they fail to address the intricacies that often confuse hobbyists and SP?s alike. I would like feedback from both sides, as I have been compiling a ?how to? especially designed for this industry. This is a chance for people to put in their likes and dislikes and will help newbies by giving them a playbook that will help them maneuver their way thru. I would like to address any and every suggestion that covers a given situation that you have been in personally that you can see someone else having to figure out. It has been an ongoing project this year and I would like to have it finished by summer?s end. So if you have any situations that you feel are worthy of being addressed, let?s get them out here so we can discuss them?. Catherine

Considering the recent discussions here on CERB about fat/skinny body shaming, I wanted to share this amazing website that I came across today! "The Nu Project is a series of honest nudes of women from all over the world. The project began in 2005 and has stayed true to the original vision: no professional models, minimal makeup and no glamour. The focus of the project has been and continues to be the subjects and their personalities, spaces, insecurities and quirks." It is quite a remarkable collection of photographs of a wide variety of real women. It is a showcases and celebrates the beauty in ALL women's bodies, in their natural state. All unique and beautiful in their own way! :) www.thenuproject.com Enjoy!

I just joined this forum and somewhat confused, what constitutes a post? Is there a difference with communication with other members or posting a new "thread" as I am now and this 5 days 5 posts, do I have to do 5 new threads? I'm genuinely interested in participating and interacting in this forum and want to start off on the right foot.

Why is it so hard to look at your own body in an objective way? Most people always apply a certain standard when their look in the mirror. This standard is influenced by the media. But I don't think this fact can fully explain our behavior. Even without the media telling us to loose weight or be ultra-slim, we would still create standards for ourselves. We would use the mental image of a woman or man we once saw at the beach and turn it into our comparison standard. I guess it's a person's way of expressing him- or herself. It's in our nature to be ambitious. And it's our unconscious way of improving our self, because we hardly ever choose an unwanted and unhealthy lifestyle as our goal. It's an ongoing spiral, though. People have plastic surgery, get a body part fixed, build up muscle mass, or loose body fat... but only very few people can see and accept their improved selves afterwards. It's not right to blame everything on the media. Individuals usually want to belong to a crowd of other people. It looks like nature has given us the burden of constantly being unsatisfied as a way to improve ourselves.

It's been a bit over a year now and I've been seeing a lady MP on a regular basis. Things with her have become quite personal and I am about to go over the deep end....Never would have I thought for a second when I first walked though those doors that I'd be in the situation I now find myself. Like most of you I just wanted a massage and a release and off I'd go. But it just didn't work out that way. Things have progressed to the point that all the so called "rules" have been broken by the BOTH of us. I have fallen madly for her, to the point I can't get her out of my mind 24/7. I can honestly say I have never quite felt this way about anybody in my entire life. I've tried every possible thing to cure what ails me, from booze/drug fuelled binges, to no longer communicating with her, to going several months without seeing her, to finding other providers, to seeing a few full service girls and even a normal type GF. Left the country for a month.... Even tried spicing up the love life with the wife....all to no avail. I always revert back to her, as if my life is incomplete without her. She is well aware of my love for her, she kids around saying its lust, but I've lusted for women before and lust fades. I can honestly say her feelings don't run as deep as mine, and she often tells me "only time will tell" where we end up, and that me being married plays a huge factor as well if things are to proceed to another level....Am I a fool that has crossed the line?? I've now lost all control and don't know where to go from here....HELP!!!

Well after 38 months it looks like we have a contract. It was due three years and two months ago, and finally a deal negotiated If it gets ratified, likely in about a month or two I can say goodbye to my old pick-up (2001 Ram) and I'll be in a newer (used) vehicle, and pay cash for it RG

Read it ?...nope Miss it ?... nope Peace MG

I don't dare speak for anyone but it was offensive to refer to the respondents as pimps, whores and johns so retaliatory remarks are par for the course unfortunately.

Hey Nicolette, you know how to read....I posted I don't need any pity or approval from anyone. You more than welcome to mind your own business if you can't read what I wrote

There are a few of us in Orleans, myself, Nicolette and Angela come to mind.

I actually find them over-bearing when I first log on. I like to get to business, not the other general stuff, but ads of ladies is what I'm interested in and they (ladies ad's) should dominate the page when logging in. But different strokes for different folks.

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Try Savannah from Your Secret Desires I saw her in late 2012 twice. Had even more fun with her the 2nd time than the first.

I have seen Malika Fantasy twice -- she is based in Toronto and tours to Ottawa from time to time as this is where her tattoo artist is. I have never seen Cleo Catra, SexxyRebecca, or some of the fine women who have been suggested by fellow hobbyists, although they are all on my "to do" list... but what I can say about Malika Fantasy is this: NO GAG REFLEX YMMV but IMHO, best bbbj with cim.... EVER She is going to be in Ottawa for two days in late August (and yes, of course, we are booked for some time together). She is a member of CERB; try to connect with her and if you're lucky, she might still have a time slot available.

I love my nipples played with, bitten,flicked,sucked on,use of nipple clamps, have erotic play with my nipples AND IT gives me goose bumps :) OH SHIT SORRY.... you were talking/asking about woman's nipples? Just ask....some like the play others maybe sensitive to a varying degree :)

Hired a contractor to do a fairly straightforward renovation project. Nothing to difficult. Said it would be done in 5 weeks. I thought it probably could have been sooner but at least I thought he was giving himself some wiggle room. Probably the worst project management I have ever seen - and I work for the government !!! Stupid and lazy decisions at the start of the project added some big delays but the contractor said he would be able to catch up. Guess what he didn't. It's now week six and things don't look to great to get into my house soon. He is still running things like he is on schedule when he should have been going through "cover my ass" schedule. I finally had to point out to him if he simply did things our of order my kitchen and the powder room would be done and I would at least be able to live at my place rather than living like a gypsy house sitting for various friends who are on holidays. Definitely at the end of this will be a discussion about the project management fees.

The biting of the lip says so much... Additional Comments:

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Thanks for your perspective, Cat, very helpful to hear from you on this!

Well maybe your cat was confused, he probably heard you having so much fun with your rabbit vibrator that he though he would give you a live one! Additional Comments: The other day I was expecting company when I notice my dog had something in his mouth. Well thank god I saw it before the company, the shit had my prostate massager in his mouth walking around like he found a bone.

If not a disaster already, it's headed in that direction. I'll make two comments. One, and only you know the situation, look in the mirror and decide what you feel your obligation and costs to the wife and possibly family. You must have love her once. On the issue of the MP, maybe you should try the opposite strategy. Get out the cheque book and spend as much time with her as you can afford. You might find that it becomes a little too routine, and the flame might die. It's like drinking, too much and you get a hang over.

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I'm sorry to see you go as well, but happy I've had the pleasure to meet you. Wishing all the best to you and your future endeavors, Kennidi. You'll be missed here.

best of luck. I didn't get a chance to meet you. But thank you for letting me post your pictures on some of my photo threads. good luck in the future

Oh man I spelled your name wrong in my comment. Sorry Kennidi. All the best dear lady!!! Sandi

I believe that so many reasons abound as to why men choose paid company rather than a GF, wife, what have you, but I look at asshats who post shit like Curious describes this way: They are paying us and the reality is that these guys fall into the "NEED TO PAY FOR IT" category. Their "personality", I imagine, leaves no other options. It's also why they live on sites that not only allow, but encourage & reward the disparaging of women who actually let them play with their boobies. These sad little men, with their sad little winkies that they need to pay to get touched, and make me imagine on the other side of the keyboard sits this usually have the social skills of an inbred jackal & couldn't get it ANY other way. I don't feel sorry for them. Because they are the rage-aholics who will never have a healthy relationship, likely are on every douche list in the country & if SPs/MAs were to suddenly disappear, they would explode in utter frustration knowing they haven't the ability to ever get laid again! They know it, they resent it, so they turn it around to blame the imperfect woman who probably cringed at their touch regardless of the cash in hand. Sandi P.S. Feel free to repost this on any other site out there. I have no fear since I don't do bestiality!

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I booked an appointment last night and left very pleased. She did say her name was Rona and worked at Magic Spa previously. She is located south Pembina. Her English is ok but not great. I had a hell of a time understanding what the buzz code was for her apartment as well as her apartment number. This made me walk up to her door with a slightly negative attitude however was extremely pleased when the door opened. I would say she is in her mid-thirties, was greeted by her in what appeared to be somewhat of a see thru dress with a shirt on top. Very pretty woman and appeared to have a nice sized chest. She took me to a room which had a couch and massage table. When I asked if I should take everything off, she asked if this was my first time! She had this "confused" look on her face..... of course I said NO ! I then proceeded to take everything off while she was out of the room and laid on the table. No, I didn't cover anything and thought I would leave it up to her if she didn't like what she saw. Upon her return she started applying oil on my back and proceeded with a fantastic massage. At one point, she said something about being hot and proceeded to take her shirt off. I didn't have the nerve....yet....to lift my head to see what she revealed. Minutes later, she climbed on the table, sat on my butt and started with a deeper tissue massage on my back. Well.....now I was getting hot. My hands started roaming behind me and started feeling her legs or as far as I could reach anyways.....which was not the pot of gold! I then turned around and saw that under the shirt was actually a teddy of some sort. WOW..... what nice breasts!!! I proceeded to take a shoulder strap off to which I again...received this confused look from her, something like....what is going on ....however you somehow knew it was ok. I paused to see if she wanted me to stop....then kept on removing the one strap then the other. Voila......two beautifully enhanced breasts. I don't know cup sizes however they were just a nice hand full. I asked if I could give her a massage which once again...I got this confused/"really?" look. She then said yes and was quite pleased with getting one from a customer. She keeps her back to you while sitting on the side of the table which gives you a rear approach to her. I was caressing her chest while she was massaging Johnny. She did ask me first if it was ok (she is so polite :) ). Needless to say, it was a happy ending with no more and no less than described. Removing the bottoms was off limits....at least on this first visit. Damage was $.8 which is a hell of a lot better than South Point in my opinion for the following reasons....more discrete location, way way prettier woman, you don't hear other people in the same house (although this is an apartment) all for $.2 more. Treat her well, don't be rude and enjoy his fine woman if you are into a nice massage with a happy ending. Cheers

AWW, please don't feel weird, this is a great and discreet place to discuss, reply and view all kinds of people. Most here are non-judgemental, accepting and welcoming to new members and want you to feel comfortable and part of this community. If you view profiles your handle will appear on that persons profile, they may choose to leave a thank you for visitng message on your wall/profile page. If you choose to leave a comment on someone's page keep in mind that comment will be visible to all who visit that profile. If you want to send a message to anyone that you only want for your eyes and theirs send it by a pm. If you want to comment on a thread just hit the reply button. Or if you just want to thank someone for their comment hit the thanks button. It takes a bit to get used to it, when I joined I made mistakes but its through those that you learn. If you have any questions just ask, or post a thread for multiple responses. The main thing is for you to enjoy and feel like you belong, those are my wishes for you:)

I think if women saw one another as men see us we may be less critical of one another. There is no one that is harder on another woman than another woman. Men don't see our flaws the way we see them. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but the beholder should realize beauty comes in all shapes,sizes and colors and true beauty isn't always visible.