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I cannot stand it when people say things like, "He's such an idiot...he probably works at such and such fast food place who sells Burgers." Now I don't work at that particular Fast Food Place, (instead I chose to be an SP) and I never have, but you can bet your rear end that if I were in a tight spot and I had a family to support that I wouldn't look down my nose at a job like that. People in service jobs don't get enough credit, and it's like some people feel the need to make others with those kinds of job feel shame and that isn't fair. A job is a job, and if that person shows up every day and performs at that job, then that deserves respect. Working at a fast food restaurant or being a waitress or cashier or even a SP as I am - may not be as glamorous as being a doctor or a lawyer, but a doctor's money is no better than the money of a blue collar worker. There may be more of it in a doctor's pocket, but it's the value of each dollar is still the same. It irks me when I am in the checkout line at a store, standing behind someone who feels they can treat the cashier like garbage just because they can. I am on of those people who will say something, because I can't be fired for telling off the Moran and I am sure the poor girl behind the register appreciates it since she is unable to say anything in her defense at the risk of becoming unemployed. Yesterday, while waiting in line, I watched as the cashier greeted a man with a smile and he didn't even look at her or say anything, just literally tossed his items on the counter in front of her. She rung him up, he paid and grabbed his items and snatched another plastic bag from the rack as if he was irritated-if had liked something double bagged all he had to do was ask-and when the girl said, "Thanks, have a good evening." he just turned and walked off. I said, "You're welcome!" real loud and obnoxiously and he turned around and glared at me as I smiled all bright. He didn't say anything...I guess his evil stare was supposed to frighten me or something...hardly, I could have so taken him

I will echo that a deposit should be mandatory.

Just saying once again,as you and fosgate should of read previous comments about Mia. a) Her account has been dormant since 2012 spring. In other words she is inactive. b) Her web site is down because she has either retired for a while, or all together. c) Read the "New to this area" about posting on recommendations especially this one, which has been inactive for quite sometime. d) Now if Mia is back...which a lot of us doubt because she would announced here in the Ottawa section for her availability. e) Opening this rec by asking questions, only puts this recommendation on the front page of rec's which is just a little unfair to other ladies. f) There is a section in Ottawa- F/S Discussions thread, you can simply ask any questions there. g) I really wish that the rec section is used properly for those,look,write and add to reco's not to simply ask questions about ladies, when all you need to do is use the "search" button, or the "members" list then do your homework. Peace out.

So, there's a couple of related questions that come up occasionally. If you can't say anything negative on CERB, how do you know who to avoid? And if a SP has no recommendations, or only a few, or nothing recent, what does that mean? And does it mean she's no good? One thing to get out the way immediately: yes, the fact that you can't come out and say someone's no good (unless they're worth a post in the "scams and warnings" section, which is rare) is a limitation. However, the ethos of this board is that we accept that limitation in return for the generally more pleasant atmosphere that results, and consider the exchange worthwhile. There are other boards for those who wish to read the negative stuff, and there are plenty of folks who use them in tandem with this one. But, it must be said, trying to work out who to see - or whether or not to see someone you're considering - is kinda tricky. The point of this post is not to try and provide a solution, because there will be as many solutions as there are readers; the idea is simply to throw some thoughts out there, and hopefully to mention one or two things that the reader may not have considered. Bear in mind that there will also be one or two things (or more) that I haven't considered, so hopefully others will fill in the blanks... and also chip in if they disagree with what I've said. It is undoubtedly true that some ladies have MUCH larger reco threads than others. However, there are a great many reasons for this, and surprisingly few of them have anything to do with how good a time you'll have if you go and see the lady in question. First up: you have to actually LOOK at a reco thread to evaluate it. Some consist only of recos, but others have a lot of cruft. I'm talking about posts along the lines of, "Thanks for the reco!" "How do I contact her?" "Her website's at ..." "Is she still in the business". Officially, these should be pruned out; in practice, that tends not to happen. And that means you, dear reader, have to go and see for yourself how much of a reco thread is genuine recommendations and how much is extraneous fluff. Post-count alone doesn't tell you everything. Second: a great deal depends on how many clients a lady sees. Someone who sees several clients a day will probably have more recos than someone who sees a few clients per week. Someone who focuses on longer appointments will probably see fewer clients than someone who specializes in shorter ones. Third: people leave and re-join this business all the time. A lady who's been inactive for a while will have a blank period when she can't possibly have acquired recos. Fourth: traveling SPs may well have one reco thread in each city they visit, and those threads will necessarily look short compared to those for ladies who stay in one place. Fifth: SPs who are new to the industry tend to pick up reviews more quickly than those who have been around for a while. Sixth, and related to the above: most of us guys will write a reco once, when we first see someone and like her. We don't write another reco for the second visit, or the third. Maybe we'll write another one after several visits, but I think that's quite rare. This means that SPs who are acquiring new clients all the time will garner far more recos than those who rely on happy clients coming back for repeat visits. I suspect that some of the best SPs are almost invisible on the board, both because their clients won't write a reco for the fifty-third visit, and because they have so many repeats that they don't need to actually advertize for new clients. Seventh: a very few ladies are on the "Do Not Review" list, and there are others who prefer not to have reviews or recos written about them. Others ask us to limit what's written ("No gory details, please" is not uncommon) and this may discourage potential reviewers. Eighth: spinners tend to get more recos than BBWs. And yes, I know there's many other body types... but you see what I'm getting at, no? I don't actually know why this is, but I suspect some guys fear schoolyard-level judgement if they own up to liking bigger ladies. Ninth: younger SPs tend to get more recos than older ones. I suspect the reasons may be related to the previous point. Tenth: SPs seem to generally get more recos than MAs, and dancers hardly get any at all. I have no clue why this is. Eleventh: this is rare, but some reco threads have been deleted - ISTR this was something technical related to deleting posts from long-retired members. I can think of one SP who I've written a reco for but you'll never find it, because her old reco thread is gone. You'll have to make do with her new, shorter one. Twelfth: some ladies ask for recommendations during or after (or even before!) a meeting. Different guys may react to this in different ways; I don't actually know what net effect this has on the lady's reco thread. Okay, that's a dozen things, which is enough for now. Doubtless I've forgotten one or two (I'll probably think of another as soon as I post this). In the meantime... I hope that was at least somewhat helpful to those of you trying to navigate the maze of tantalizing options we have available, and I hope that it's given you something to consider when you come across a lady who tickles your fancy but seems not to have too many recommendations compared to some others.

Right now I am sooooo happy that pre-season football is on air and breathlessly awaiting hockey! Next would be the bounty my veggie garden is about to spit out for my canning session. Finally, deciding to go with short finger nails!

It could be a communication problem! Maybe these SPs don't realize you have another one in you! Not every man does you know! My advice, shop around for a companion and make sure she is aware before hand that you are looking to have msog. If she doesn't allow it, she should inform you of that BEFORE you spend your heard-earned money. On a side note, I don't understand how some SPs don't allow MSOG when they are so adamant that its their "time" you pay for....seems hypocritical. *end rant*

Solitude. No peopleness. Me and me and me. (which is part of the reason I hobby...I am mostly alone, as I prefer, but I get the occasional urges)

As long as your willy is clean it doesn't matter how he dresses for the party!

This is where I disagree, when a man books a GFE encounter he is booking the entire package (conversation, cuddles, intimacy and much more) No where did I say SOG was limited to one, however more than once in an hour is highly unlikely if someone wants a GFE experience that is unrushed. Telling someone MSOG's possible time permitting is not selling an act, its being honest that is just may not happen in the short time booked. No where does that statement say its not available, however like YMMV it is stating that it may or may not happen. And yes I do sell time, not a service and what happens during our agreed paid time commitment will happen as the date takes its course (its not a build your own menu for this amount of $$$$, its for time and companionship)

Although I think this lady looks like Ann Margaret some think she looks like Elizabeth Montgomery, so if you are ever in Ottawa, you might like to contact Meg For Fun. Mind you she is pretty hot and sexy in her own right, not to mention a wonderful companion too RG

Additional Comments: I disagree 100% Allow me to elaborate.... If you limit the amount of orgasms a man is allowed, you are selling an act not an experience. The act being ONE SOG. I personally don't see any GFE when a woman says "we can't have sex again because you already blew your load" -- A woman who says this sold SEX not TIME. (act vs experience) Yes, GFE is a lot more than just the completion of sex...that I do agree with....but saying MSOG is not allowed is super hypocritical if you advertise that your TIME costs X amount of dollars.

While I appreciate your opinion RG, I want to point out that I am running this poll specifically for the people who ARE interested in this sort of encounter. As I said in my OP, I have 75+ cerb handles on the mailing list for these events, so there are some interested folks out there. For the record, these folks aren't looking for a GFE...I am well aware that this type of play is not for everyone, hence the reason it was posted in the fetish section. And there is time for socializing, not everyone arrives in the same minute! The eager ones who show up first get all kinds of talk-time! See redbeard's reco of one of these encounters for more info! :)

Some Sp's offer more than just an act - its called GFE and usually includes a heck of alot more that just a SOG.

The park is "Blow Me Down" on the west coast of the province. The way the fog rolls in to St. John's is pretty cool too with the high south side hills and signal hill forming the entrance to the harbour the fog rolls right in through the entrance similar to this picture: However the entire west coast of the province all along the Long Range Mountains is beautiful.

In general, I also prefer recommendations that do not contain too many intimate details. On the other hand, I have a few highly detailed recos but they were written in such a tasteful manner by proficient eloquent members that I didn't mind it at all and actually, to my surprise, loved reading them. What is tasteful for one might be distasteful for others... Some prefer less details and others love the more elaborate sexy recos (gents and ladies alike). We always have to remember... To each their own.

Lone Star was on TV last night. Excellent movie by John Sayles and a damn fine soundtrack. It would have been a great film for a movie night with Cleo Catra in her new western gear. ;-)

Bebe Neuwirth from Cheers. Hottola! But then I am likely a freak. Nonetheless. I love her. Well, her look anyway.

Okay, I'm hijacking this thread, if you'll forgive me. I've heard various claims and counter-claims that sex is better for the circumcised, or for those who aren't. The thing is, most of us will never know, because it's either done when you're a kid or not at all; AFAIK circumcision in adulthood is rare. So, if you don't mind my asking... did it make a difference? And if so, how? And if you do mind my asking, I'd consider, "Fuck off and mind your own damn business" to be an entirely acceptable answer :)

Here are the previous links. http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=94381&highlight=squirt http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=12641&highlight=squirt

I still dont get it why this question comes out over an over an over an over again! Are the new members not taking the time to search and read previous threads??? Seriously! i m believer of there is no stupid questions ( if the answer has not already been provided..., or is not obvious...) but seriously.., i dont think i cant count on my fingers how many times this question has been asked since i joined a year ago! Guys please take the time to read and search for answers..., most of them are rigth on your nose..., when it comes to general interest...

Building my Harley, a ridiculously expensive bottle of scotch, tattoos for no reason :)

Going on a very long bike ride with no destination and no time to be there. I loves it.

Personally, I do prefer an uncircumcised man for those long, extended play times. I do not like anyone, cut or uncut who is unclean. The circumcision has nothing to do with hygiene. I do know women who do not like an uncut man and while it baffles me, I accept their preference. My gentle suggestion is to accept her position as a personal preference and move on. There are plenty of us out here who appreciate a man who is intact. Just make sure that your hygiene is IMPECCABLE and you shouldn't have an issue. This is why ymmv is in the urban dictionary, there is always the chance that the key doesn't fit so just go try another door... cat

I'm not trying to start a debate about fees. I've been doing this longer than most and am well versed in the "pay to play" philosophy. When it comes to guys simply looking for an R&T the reason most guys don't see SP's is more about the cost. Most of the local SP's will charge a guy $100 -120 for even a half hour of massage with a happy ending (HJ or BJ) and more for an hour. The "relaxation" massage places are usually in the $45 - 60 per hour and another $20 for the tip. Thus you can get a nice relaxing 1 hour massage and a HJ for $70 - 80. When I was actively pooning I spent a generous sum and saw my share of ladies for FS and think most would have nice things to say about me. But there were those times when I needed a kink worked out of my back and just felt like a little stress release as well. For those occasions the R&T providers fit the bill. Cheers

Thank you Phaedrus - great points, and well articulated. I personally do not encourage reco's of myself. When I first started here, I was not aware that I could request they edit out details. I think that if you are planning on writing a reco, please run it by the provider first before posting. However, I do understand the merits of reco's, so for those gentlemen that give "tasteful" reco's, thank you. For those that seem to think that giving all the details of the encounter, minute by minute, is in my opinion, distasteful. Lets keep reco's respectful please.

It is doubtful that you would find that. An RMT would be putting their license and standing with their provincial college at risk. The colleges take inappropriate touching very seriously and 'unprofessional' conduct very seriously. The best you could do is find someone who was trained as an RMT but has decided to not be an RMT and offer extra services instead. Oh, and you should know by now, the only 'erotic services' that get subsidized by the taxpayer are those enjoyed by the politicians... ;)

An MA and a RMT should not be confused. No sex with the RMT bottom line, this keeps coming up every so often.

Great post and excellent summary, Phaedrus! I just want to add a few points ;) Some gentlemen will write a reco once but a good majority never do even if they had a fantastic time- makes for a shorter reco thread. On the other hand, some gentlemen will write a reco for the same ladies every time they see them- makes for a longer reco thread. You also have to remember that it's a big world out there and that clients come from everywhere and not necessarily all from review boards; not everyone knows or cares about review boards and reviews/recos therefore there is no feedback from them either. Also, advertising regularly doesn't really reflect on the repeat client base a lady has; I am very, very happy with mine but will still advertise on a regular basis because I never know who might contact me... It could very well be a new fantastic gentleman who may (or may not) become another amazing regular client with different interests then the other gentlemen I already see. I guess the saying "variety is the spice of life" also applies to the ladies :)

Zoe is another MGF gem who came to town for a 2 day stay. I had the opportunity to see her on Tuesday afternoon. Booking with MGF is straightforward. You are provided with the location well in advance. Zoe selected a nice downtown hotel with street parking available during the daytime. Upon arrival I was greeted by a stunning blonde. After a quick shower we began the session. I asked her what her restrictions are and she told me that she does not do GREEK, DIGITS and rubbing genitals without a condom. We started off with some nice LFK and DFK before moving a nice massage. She then rolled me over and moved onto some body slides. Zoe loves to tease and she slid her beautiful naturally formed breasts. I was at full attention in no time. She continued the teasing slides before eventually engaging me in a delightful BBBJ including some deep throating action and teasing eye contact. She then alternated a few times between slides and BBBJ. I could feel my excitement building so I offered DATY which she graciously accepted. I could tell she was enjoying it with her twists and moans and growing wetness. I kept teasing her kitty and she allowed me to slide one DIGIT inside her. The cover went on and I started at the edge of the bed before moving onto the bed and MISH. It took almost no time before I took my SOG. Hoping Zoe makes a return trip to Ottawa before she retires. She provided a truly mindblowing experience to stay the least! Thank you again MGF!

As some of you already know, I do TRY to host gang bang parties on a monthly basis...I used the term TRY simply because most of the time, the events fizzle out and don't work out. I am curious as to why! I'd like to know if the reasons for these failed parties are within my control or not...Should I continue trying or not bother? I have 75+ cerb users on my mailing list for these events, yet I can barely organize one.... and even the ones that do happen have only 3 of the intended 5 members show up. I ask those who are interested to please partake in this poll so that I may have a better insight as to how to make these events successful. If you are not interested in gang bangs, have no intention of ever going to one, I ask that you please refrain from partaking in the poll... but please do feel free to comment in the thread with any feedback/comments/opinions you may have.

http://keep0smiling.blogspot.ca/2013/08/even-more-very-funny-autocorrect-fails.html?m=1 You will be glad you read this one!!LMFAO

I don't have an issue with a guest wanting MSOG but it's a rare man that can even attempt it when I'm done with him after a single SOG. Like Emily, my guests come to me for an experience and I would rather play hours together building the tension. My guests derive as much pleasure from the journey as they do the destination. Delayed gratification is indeed the ultimate pleasure in my opinion and I specifically seek out those men who share my passion and inclinations. That said, a provider who posts an hourly fee then evicts a guest as soon he shoots is indeed asking for an issue. The "paid for time not services" comes from the US where escorts are required to cloak their business in a veil to protect themselves from LE. We are not required to do so here and providers have a choice of offering either an a la carte menu or an all inclusive buffet and everything in between. It is up to the guest to explore what a provider is offering to ensure it meets his expectations for the visit and a provider would be wise to be upfront about her chosen business model if she wants return clients. I believe there is the perfect client for every provider and vice versa, we just need to be willing to communicate clearly in order to find each other... cat

NICE! Gotta have tunes going while driving I find I have be careful what selections get listened to in the car as music can have a direct effect on my foot and it's distance to the floor of the car. Generally Jack Johnson or Ben Harper to reduce murderous thoughts while i'm stuck in traffic. Windows rolled up and singing without shame would have to be Elton John and Poison (or Reel Big Fish covering Poison) An open Highway ahead of me or late at night tends to be Metal or Punk as the speed limit is much higher, or in the case of late night, less people are out.. Lately Gama Bomb, Municipal Waste, Pennywise and Good Riddance have been in heavy rotation. Probably my favorite guilty pleasure that i'll listen to in pretty much any situation would be Open Road Song by Eve 6

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Thanks for noting this! This might be a case of where those little white lies come in: "No, I'm afraid I can't extend your appointment tonight..." As a client, if a gal hesitated to see you a second time because of the above, would you rather know that and be allowed a chance to try different sexual techniques, or prefer to assume she's just "booked up"? Gabby xoxo Additional Comments: I also agree that good communication before your date is ideal. As a gent, my understanding is that you know your capacity, to a large degree. If you know you're going to pop within 10 seconds in a hot mouth, but then able to recharge quickly, share that with your potential sp, and I'd like to think she'll style your date to accomodate that. Alternatively, if you know that you're only going to be able to muster one load, perhaps your date might focus on kissing and touching and playing and dining ;) to prolong the anticipation until the "act". Many reputable providers here on cerb seem to provide a gfe experience styled to meet the needs of their companion, and are open to engaing in communication - get chatting! I personally love the opportunity to engage with my new partners over email before we meet - adds a great element of intimacy, and moves our encounters more to an experience, as Emily notes, than just a SOG. Gabby xoxo

Ya, I started yesterday :)

I had the same problem whenever I tried to organize gangbangs. I think the key is to book more guys than you normally would, knowing that a bunch won't show up.

Great video. Lark Harbour is an amazing little town to visit.

Good Morning gentlemen, Let me start off by saying I'm a young fit MA who loves to massage and can do it for hours. My sensual erotic GFE massage will relieve your tension & leave you more than satisfied. I'm very fun, open minded and comfortable to be around so tell me what you like ;).. I'm petite 5'4, athletic 120 lbs, perky b34 bust, nice round booty, dark hair, golden tan, seductive lips, hazel bedroom eyes, 100% natural beauty.. Services: Full erotic body massage Slippery body slides Shower for 2 Hot tub fun Relaxing music Fresh towels & linens A/C ATM Duos with my sexy girlfriends Join me for some hot steamy fun 613-614-2117 Schedule: Friday: 9am-11pm Saturday: 9am-11pm -Sasha xxx http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=146238

I stopped at Tease for a quick beer an afternoon this week and she was there. Did not get to talk to her but she might have gone back to her previous career.

Haha...if we said it would no longer be a secret. I've had this experience a couple of times and found it amazing. I've also learned it may not always be predictable so I certainly wouldn't want to give the impression that X will do Y. As well, I view this as very personal for a lady and thus will leave for them to communicate. But best of luck and if it is what you seek...I'm sure it will happen. Cub

Watching Antoinette Tuff and 911 dispatcher Kendra McCray on CNN'S AC360 two days after they calmly talked down a AK-47 wielding gunman at a school in Georgia full of 800 kids. The two ladies are real heroes and a great interview with Anderson Cooper too :-) http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/22/us/georgia-school-shooting-911-reunion/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Thank-you, Phaedrus, for an articulate (and nearly complete ;) ) summary on the topic of recos. IMO there is limited usefulness in recos, and most certainly they are not always beneficial to the reviewed lady (esp. the ones on other unnamed sites). I do read them for entertainment value, and to become aware of providers that sound like the type I might like to meet. But I don't rely on the existence or absence of recos to determine if I will see an SP/MA. A provider could have no recos, but if her ad or website, forum interactions, or introductory banter via email spark my interest, I will discount the rest. I am not a big fan of writing a reco for every encounter, but if I've had a wonderful time I will gladly provide one on the lady's request, or if I think she could benefit from one. In all cases, it's always done tastefully. I hope my .05 has been helpful in some way.

Thanks for all the info but I'm thinking more along these lines

Well my opinion..... It is awesome !!!! It truly is. My advise would be to get to know the lady and just have that gut feeling that you will get along just fine .... she will do the same.....and things will be golden ! Everyone must be comfortable in this case ....most ladies would like to meet you prior perhaps a time or two or otherwise have a fair bit of correspondence...that is just my opinion though I have done all day visits and some overnighters. Don't plan toooo much. Just meet up and go with the flow and let things happen spontaneously and naturally as far as what you do, when you do it and just enjoy your time together. Enjoy. That's what it is all about. For both parties. For my experiences.... it is Fun ! Relaxing ! and Orgasmic ! and FUN !!! ;)

A whole day? EXHAUSTING! But very, very, very rewarding! (Oh yeah - and memorable!) LOL :)

Checked my calendar ..... I am doing absolutely sweet F all on Friday the 26th !!! As long as I am home the next day by 6 PM for an important function. Can I make this work I ask myself ??? Boooo probably not.... Awesome news that things have gone so well, you are sold out and I know you will all have a most fantabulous time and tons of fun !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I shall send out a door prize Lex and Katherine. Will be in touch. ps... if there is a seat sale that works I shall fly out ..... stuff myself in a very nice envelope and for the lady or ladies ;) that didn't win a door prize they are stuck with me !!! haha Have FUN PEEPS !!!!

Yay! I became a grand dad this morning. My daughter delivered a boy at 5 this morning, and both are doing well. I would appreciate any ladies who can give me a suggestion for a nice gift to the new mother. Not for the baby but for my daughter, just to show her how much I appreciate the the privilege she has given me. It's got to be something that she'll treasure for many years.

I had breakfast at my favorite place, with a long time friend. The server there knows my order and always gives me a hard time. Feels like Cheers except its breakfast. Then stopped for gas, and an elderly lady was having difficulty with the pump. Still drives at 83 but her hands are too weak to handle the pump properly. I wasn't going to stop, but something made me. I pumped her gas, and walked into the Esso with her, holding the door. She was ahead of me in line, and told the cashier "I'm going to pay for that nice young man's gas as well as my own". I'm 48. I had only put $20 in, and protested, but she said that was the first time ever anyone had stopped to assist her. Now, I am not fishing for praise telling this story. It really feels good to help someone a little less able than yourself. I think you get more out of it than they do. Free gas was just the sprinkles on the cake!

I saw her the other day and I concur with you. She does have some unbelievable skills. ;) I am still smiling. lol.