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I was curious, to you men... do you prefer a genuine and authentic approach? One where the SP is truly herself, and fully immersed in the moment with you? One where everything she posts, emails, tweets, etc is a TRUE reflection of who she truly is? OR do you prefer the... somewhat less authentic approach, where the SP is clearly defined as such, posts, etc are clearly manufactured and during sessions she is clearly "going through the motions"? I know this seems like a no brainer and not worth questioning... But I don't think it is that black and white. Also, can you tell when an SP is being genuine vs one who is fake? Look forward to your responses. Please keep in mind that this is NOT intended to be a specific thread to pin point those SPs who may be one way or another. Keep your responses vague and non-specific!!! :) xo

If you ever encounter any sort of problems with anyone while working, anything ranging from sexual assault to theft, intimidation, abuse, harassment, threats, stalking or anything else, and want to talk directly to a female officer who will listen and help (if you want it), here is the name of an Ottawa officer who has been helpful to sex workers in the past: Sergeant Patricia Ferguson Sexual Assault Section Tel. 613-236-1222, ext. 5463 Or, to anonymously report to the police any kind of bad behaviour you've experienced: Bad Date Line Call 1-800-303-5407 - anonymously. http://www.ottawapolice.ca/en/ServingOttawa/SectionsAndUnits/saca/baddateline.aspx From Ottawa Police Services: Working in the sex trade can make you a vulnerable target, and predators count on the fact that you may not report crimes against you. We need your help to identify and track serial and predatory offenders. The anonymous reporting system is for individuals victimized while engaging in the sex trade. By calling the toll free number (1-800-303-5407), you will be prompted to leave a message regarding the details of your assault along with as much of an offender description as possible. Information gathered could be the missing link needed in identifying a serial predator. The anonymous and free Bad Date Line gives you an opportunity to report sexual and physical assault without revealing your identity. For more information about the Ottawa Bad Date Line, download their pamphlet (PDF, 206k). The Ottawa Police Service understands the desire of victims to remain anonymous and supports the Bad Date Line in an effort to identify potential serial offenders preying upon victims who they believe will not report the attack to police. The Bad Date Line does not subscribe to caller ID and no attempts will be made to identify callers. It is preferred that victims contact police directly to report an assault so that a proper investigation can be conducted and ensure a predator is removed from the street. Ottawa Police treat all victims fairly and equitably. If you wish to speak with an officer regarding an assault or receive more information regarding the investigation process, you may contact the Sexual Assault Unit directly at 613-236-1222, ext. 5944.

It's tricky to know just how to answer this, since it depends so much on how you interpret the question, or which part you focus on. If we're talking about the physical interaction, then naturally the preference is for someone to be authentic and in the moment, rather than just obviously going through the motions. But expectations have to be realistic. I mean, if a lady is feeling tired or has a headache, does anyone what to be authentically told at the end of an encounter that she'd rather have had a nap than have spent time with you? Is a lady who hides that fact and ensures you leave feeling good about yourself being professional or being inauthentic? If we're talking more about her personality (or persona), then that depends too. Much like the open letter Regent recently penned to hobbyists, if you're racist, sexist, or homophobic, I'm much happier if you keep that part of yourself to yourself. But generally speaking, I think it's probably better to present yourself as who you truly are, if only because it's exhausting to pretend otherwise. There's enough variety out there that it seems to me like it would be simpler to be who you are, and so attract the people that you appeal to. It's worth pointing out that being authentic doesn't necessarily mean revealing all of yourself. We all have layers and we all act differently for different audiences. This isn't deception; it's life! It's possible that a person can present one side of themselves on Cerb or in the bedroom, and another side of themselves when alone or with friends, etc. That doesn't mean that how they choose to act here isn't authentic.

I really appreciate the way you put this 'Dear Client' letter out there for all of us. I'm not sure of how you would describe its meaning Regent, but how I see it is that, sometimes, it just feels good as an SP to unburden our heavy hearts and to give voice to the bigotry that we find ourselves in the midst of when carrying our our work and sharing intimacies with clients. Yes, it exists at the level of society...yes, it is a deeper problem that extends beyond the four walls shared in a session....But, I feel that, in writing this note, Regent, you are, in a way, speaking out to consciousness and giving voice to something many of us experience in the course of doing our work....it helps us to feel connected to each other in our concerns. And, if it helps even one person (beyond the rest of us SPs) to reflect a little more, then we are all better off for it. Thanks for writing this :)

Dear client, I am excited to see you and spend time together. I am excited to get to know you a bit. I want to know you well enough to get into your head and give you an amazing, hot session. I appreciate it when you let me in a little and share some things about yourself and who you are. What I don't appreciate is when you drop a bunch of casual bigotry on me in the midst of socializing and getting to know each other. I don't expect you to have the exact same values as me. For our brief time together that's not important. What I do expect from you is a modicum of consideration, social awareness and self filtering. Just enough so that if you have opinions on black or brown people, or "the gays", or poor people, or any other group that you don't belong to, you have the sense to keep those opinions to yourself for an hour. I expect you to realize that these opinions might be offensive to others and that sharing them is jarring and rude. I expect you to realize that you don't actually know me, and that I or my loved ones might be part of those groups that you think so poorly of. I want to have fun with you when we're together. I don't want to get into an argument about racism or sexism or homophobia or anything. I certainly don't want to have to choose between ending our session early or getting intimate with someone who has just made me very uncomfortable. I'm sure you're a complex and multifaceted person and there are many wonderful, fascinating, enjoyable, positive things you could share about yourself. Stick to those, as I do when I talk about me, so that we can both enjoy each others' company. Thanks, Your service provider

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For a client to expect a lady to be fully, well as open as she can be, that is a reciprocal relationship, requiring the client to be open with the lady too. That comes over time, and with mutual trust and respect. I do prefer a lady to be herself, but on a first, even second meeting, to expect a lady to show all herself (is that the right way to phrase it) is unreasonable. Likewise I'm not going to show all myself to a lady on a first or even second encounter. But I want the lady to be herself, personality wise when I see her. I can glean what her personality is through her website, posts on CERB, emails and so on. I assume she can get an idea of what my personality is the same way (well except I have no website) But still we are all somewhat guarded, we don't completely open up. Now when you start getting to the third encounter on, that's when, at least in my experience, the dynamic changes between the two of you, and you both start being more open than is required in a SP/Client relationship. Your relationship for lack of a better word starts evolving into more of a friendship. I don't know if that answers your question A rambling RG

When I take time to read this thread and reply to it :)

Oh of course.. I'm not saying I advocate gov't influence.. I'm just stating that it's possible. Same as my feelings in the rates thread.. I want always to be my own boss.. I think if it ever came down to the gov't telling me what I can and can't do with my body.. I'd move to live where I once again had freedom.

It's utterly disgusting, look at the recent tweets from those idiot fans from Boston Bruins against PK Subban. One would think that racism was not this visual in today's society, then we have assholes from Boston and Donald Sterling. Needless to say these idiots probably didn't even know that Willie O'Ree broke into the NHL in the 70's with the Bruins, or in fact PK's younger brother was drafted by the Bruins. Theses types of behaviour are seriously unbelievable and from " dickheads" that have no understanding about what is correct and acceptable behaviour in today's society. Being a huge sport fan, I've lost a lot of respect for other fans/owners who think they can share their thoughts with society through media or other means.

Carrie, I am quoting you but my comment is not directed at you ;) We all draw the line somewhere, and as you stated, that line varies from person to person. To each their own. I am not going to debate the rights and wrongs of BBBJs (or DATY or kissing) and risk levels but I will say this: As an independent human being, I do not want nor need the government telling me what I can and cannot do in the privacy of a bedroom, as a companion with a patron or as a grown woman in her private life. Whether or not I receive money when sharing intimate time with someone is no one else's business but mine. I value my rights and freedom of choice. (I hope my post makes sense)

Anyone following the Hannibal series on NBC? That is one dark, creepy show....but I can't stop watching it. I'm hooked. I was sceptical that it would be anywhere near as good as the original books/movies but have been pleasantly surprised so far. Certainly doesn't shy away from some pretty gruesome scenes.

Meg, you care, you share, you're sexy and beautiful and you give of yourself to this community. You're up front when required, supportive and full of life. Thanks for everything and can't wait for the next 1000!

I agree this is a broader social problem, certainly not limited to clients. However, I find that the client-service provider dynamic makes addressing it complicated in unique ways. The power dynamics of relying on clients to make a living, plus the intimacy of our interactions weights my choices. Actions I might take in my personal life or in a different kind of professional setting have different consequences for me here. I may tolerate things I wouldn't in another setting. The expectations placed on me by clients are different from expectations from friends or other professional associates. My safety considerations are different. This issue absolutely arrises in all areas of life, but encountering it in our industry creates some unique challenges and considerations, and so I wanted to talk about it in that specific context. @Phaedrus, I think you're very right, that people are often unwilling to self identify as a racist or homophobe. They understand in an abstract way that these are undesirable things, and so to avoid cognitive dissonance with their self perception as a good or moral person, they don't integrate the idea of being a racist with their self identity. However, I think when someone seeks to make excuses for their behaviour, in the form of, "I'm not a racist, but..." or "I have gay friends...", implicit in that is recognizing that they're aware that their behaviour or choice of words is likely to hurt or offend someone. Even if they don't see themselves as racist, they know very well that the words coming out of their mouth are. Things are getting better and shifting slowly. There's more awareness and more dialogue in mainstream culture about these kinds of things. But it's a slow process - even if we all know that overt -isms are bad, there are so many harmful ideas and stereotypes that we're taught all our lives and that are so easy to accept without questioning. I just wish and hope that everyone would make an effort to be more kind, more compassionate, to recognize our shared humanity and to also recognize that we have diverse experiences and not everyone has been afforded the same opportunities.

I consider myself to be genuine and sincere in my everyday dealings (not just on the job) and authentic because there is only one me who can pull the whole deal off, but with that willingness and openness to life comes a responsibility to know when to pull back or guard oneself especially on the "job". I think one could suggest a state of appropriateness is most important when dealing with a variety of personalities who may or may not become friendly. I think how I understand "fake" to be reflects a person who simply doesn't have a personality of their own - whether it be by choice or simple ignorance - they are who they think someone wants them to be and depending on the effort put forth they can become a fabulous, undetected actor and perhaps that's where their authenticity lies.

Thank you Brad for your post you said what I was trying to, you are very understanding and observant btw:)

In my opinion authentic trumps artifice every time. However, there is a place for subtle fakery. What if the provider is not in the best mood? What if she or he is slightly irritable? Should the client be exposed to the genuine mental & emotional state of the moment when the expectation is for a drama-free-getaway-from-it-all romp? I think as a quality service provider, presenting yourself as a projection of the client's expectations would be as much a part of the pre-date preparation as doing hair & make-up. That is not to say that a provider completely sublimates their own personality to be a play thing for the client, but rather a provider would strive to present the best themself they can be, despite real life circumstances. As with all things, it boils down to a matter of degree. I would expect my play date to be happy to see me, but I would not want forced or faked physical responses. The quickest way to ensure I will never repeat is to fake it when we are intimate. My longest lasting relationships with providers have all been with genuinely authentic personalities. I think I'm a fair judge of authenticity, in fact I think most people know instinctively when something does not ring true. Repeat encounters reinforce realness, as consistency comes into play. Over time the real personality begins to show, just like in the Real World or Big Brother. It may take more than a few visits, but in time even the most gifted faker will give themselves away. But even with my acute sence of veracity, I can be fooled. In the end we all believe what we want to believe. And yes, I want to believe that an attractive woman half my age finds me sexy. It is just better if the attraction is real.

Trish can, also, be reached at [email protected] for email fans. Valerie

Valid points Cristy, but I wasn't referring to chemistry. I was referring to them being themselves, an authentic true representation of who they really are. We ALL simplify things from a discretion standpoint and I know being fully open in a client/SP relationship is rare, and something that takes time, effort and commitment from both sides. That being said, for myself (as an example) I don't try to be someone I'm not. Every word that I type, every conversation I have, and who I am when I am with someone is ME. I don't say what I think people want to hear, I don't embellish on details or try to make myself into anything. I am just me. Does that make more sense? I realize I didn't explain it well :) I'm really curious to know if the men can tell the difference!

I know this is directed at the men but I wanted to say that even the most genuine of providers goes through the motions from time to time, it's almost impossible not to, unless you want to kill the moment for your partner. By this I mean even when those of us who have the luxury of being very selective with whom we meet, those of us who choose so there can be chemistry, even then we can have moments when it just isn't working or doesn't work, when you realized there is no chemistry, at those times you aren't going to let your partner know. You'd want him/her to still enjoy, right? This would be considered going through the motions. When I'm with the men I'm with I'm there for me as well. I treat all my chosen clients as actual dates. But even the most planned date can go wrong and sometimes you have to be/or do things that you wouldn't in your "normal" life . I'm very outspoken, forthright, yet sometimes I have to bite my lip, is this not being me, authentic? There are times in bed when in the beginning I was turned on but something changed, so I go through the motions, not being authentic? There have been times when I've accepted a booking from a client for him, not me, not both of us, but to suit his schedule, not authentic? My points are I think those of us who are ourselves have to act from time to time, it's the business, when dealing with people authenticity sometimes has to be replaced with a more manufactured persona, or you'd be considered rude or you might hurt someone's feelings and I'm trying to be more diplomatic;) These terms are used with to much importance anyway imo. They are as common now as gorgeous, amazing, beautiful, the best, classy, etc, etc. Anyone can call themselves or anyone what they wish it doesn't make it true and I'm not sure why we should care. I think we all need to be/do what works for you/me us and be happy:).

Happy Star Wars day everyone. May the fourth be with you!

Like you I'm close to your age and if you want a mature and incredibly sexy women Katherine would be a wonderful lady to meet. I've had the privilege to have seen her several times..from just a massage to the full on gfe .

I always get money back... that's called planning... my taxes were done a month ago.... i am talking about doing taxes for family and friends... many of which do not plan ahead. lol.

This is not an SP / Client problem it is a societal problem that I kinda think is actually improving... younger people today are far less likely to see differences in people and have grown up in a world that is becoming more and more diverse. I have never considered myself to be bigoted or racist but my children have demonstrated to me that I am in fact a product of the environment in which I grew up.... my children actually don't see the difference in people and accept everyone for who they are.... i think I am very excepting but you know I do notice the differences... my kids are without a doubt teaching me about true diversity and acceptance. As for the CERB world one think I have realized that if you want to find a group that is ultra accepting of diversity you really don't have to look further than the amazing SP'S in this industry... i think that because of this they are more likely to react to stupid insensitive comments made by clients. Just my opinion. Additional Comments:

Actually... I think this misses the core of the problem. Although people realize that something is offensive, they lack the self-awareness to understand that they fall into this category. How many times have you heard someone say, "I'm not racist, but..." or "I have friends who are gay"? It's so common that it's a parody of itself. To take the concrete example that springs most immediately to mind: look at Donald Sterling. Utterly racist, despite his ownership of a basketball team and having a mixed-race mistress. And yet... he doesn't consider himself racist. At all. You couldn't make it up... but there it is, played out in front of the world. This isn't a problem with clients, in particular. It's a problem with people, and with society. It's improving, but that's a slow process.

This is how the law in NZ is set up. Fined for non compliance https://www.healthed.govt.nz/resource/health-and-safety-information-sex-workers https://www.healthed.govt.nz/resource/health-and-safety-information-sex-workers pg 22 It applies to all sex workers, whether indy or employed at a brothel. I think it is very specific, and certainly didn't take a lot of time and effort to come up with the idea. Stds are a workplace hazard, safer sex practises involve use of barriers for oral, vaginal, and anal sex, therefore, the PRA laws make it a condition of doing commercial sex work that barriers be used at all times. Commercial is the key word there, this is workplace safety issues, nothing else. It is not a personal decision, and educating is the key as shown in the info, signs are supposed to be put up on the walls etc lol. We don't have other commercial industries where the workers get to decide for themselves what level of risk they are OK with, when it comes to public health and safety. they can't randomly pick and choose what laws, in the case of NZ as comparison. In the comparison of driving, this would be yes someone can choose to drive without wearing a seatbelt, but it is against the law. You can get away with it a lot of the time, but eventually and at some point, chances are you will either get caught (and fined) or you will get in an accident and badly hurt or dead. The frequency of doing it increases your risk.

Everyone has their own limits. Some people are unmoved by any amount of factual data. Statistical modelling is interesting but we are governed more by emotional response than logic. Flying on an airline is statistically safer than driving but we still drive.

Trish Ferguson is a very good, discrete, and kind police officer who truly cares about sex workers and does the best she can with the tools she has. She is a good person to reach out to if there are any problems... ..but yes, hopefully no one needs to call her. Thank you for posting this Em! Nat xox

It's not the least bit silly though to draw lines as to what is the level of comfort to take where risk is concerned.. I draw the line at BBBJ.. but I enjoy daty.. so that's my level. Some choose BBBJ but no CIM. Some enjoy BBFS and this is where 95% of us I'd say draw the line at level of risk.. Some enjoy BB anal.. and that's where those who offer BBFS may draw the line.. BB anal is definitely riskier than BBFS.. Wherever your line is... your choice. At least for now anyway. In Australia.. BBBJ is illegal for providers to provide as part of the service in certain provinces. I believe Queensland? last I looked..

You telling us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner only shows us that you can tell us you are a twenty one year old IT business owner. Which has nothing to do with seeing a lady. BTW encounters aren't about handling yourself Encounters are about a gentleman meeting a lady for a mutually beneficial time together Yes, in a perfect world generalizations aren't good, but ladies make their profession based on their experience dealing with people. And their experience shows them this age demographic isn't good for their business. It isn't about right or wrong, it's about the ladies do what is right for them So you have to show the lady you are a mature gentlemen, a man the lady would like to have as a client if you want to see her A rambling RG

While--generally--it is not a good idea to generalize, and though I can see how it would be frustrating, try to see it from the lady's perspective and it might not seem so personal. I don't think any lady here would say that every young person is immature. And age doesn't always bring wisdom, and no doubt there are older fellows who cause just as much aggravation. But if a lady finds that a given demographic is more inclined to no-show, haggle, or just not make for as good an overall experience, then at the end of the day it's her call to decide just to make a rule not to see anyone of a certain age. Yes, this probably means also missing out on some good potential clients, but that's not disrespect, it's simply her right. Most of us probably don't realize the degree of presumption and time-wasters a lady has to deal with on a regular basis, so we can't begrudge anything that makes them feel more comfortable or makes their day-to-day a bit easier. Show that you don't take it personally, be patient, and follow the excellent advice already given to you, and I've no doubt you'll have a chance to prove yourself and find a lady you can have a great experience with.

Am I the only one who feels that the general level of dialogue in the forums has degenerated over the last year or so? I mean, I know we're all adults here, and all here to discuss very adult things, but it seems as though there has been a slide towards coarser and more vulgar language, to the point of it being almost offensive. I'm definitely not some kind od shrinking violet, and I have no problem with a certain degree of vulgarity. My favorite authors are some of the most disgusting writers, in a strangely eloquent way (Warren Ellis). But frequently reading customers referring to dancers and SPs as "pussy," and reading more and more ads titled along the lines of "cum let me stroke your fat cock until you soak my tits and pussy like a cum canvas" make me wonder if this is really how we would want the industry represented to outsiders. Just a thought.

Just to add another thought here... The subject here has a lot to do with my personal, in particular the lack thereof, relationships in life. I'm very much a loner outside of a very small circle of friends and family, and this is largely because I've met so many who just aren't genuine. It's impossible to develop any type of relationship when that happens. So many seem to have their own agenda in life and tailor their interactions around that: "How do I need to act today, who do I need to be today, to get what I want?" That doesn't work for me. If I need to be someone I'm not to reach some goal, then that's a pretty hollow existence. And, I've given up on what many would think "a lot" by living that way, I think. I kinda expanded on the topic a bit and rambled (sorry Savannah) and could probable ramble more as it's a "grey" topic and not black and white, but to answer your question: Yes, while not always, I can usually spot the difference.

Without question I'd want the SP to be the person she is most comfortable being with me and the world. Regardless of the person, in whatever areas of our life, I don't think we ever get to see the true person. We all have masks. But, sincerity has a way of breaking through those. I don't want to be on a stage and act when I'm with someone, or interacting online in it's many forms with them, so I certainly wouldn't want them to feel they need to. My 2 cents. :)

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The general advice I've seen in other threads like this, and it's common for good reason, is that most providers are "newbie" friendly. :) If a lady on CERB (and I'd recommend sticking with CERB for now) interests you, contact her and honestly let her know your situation and discuss it. I'm sure things will work out great.

To dream is often just an extension of our conscious mind but liberated from the norms if everyday life that often stop us from acting. In our dreams... we are liberated to do things that scare us in the light of day... to say things that we are way to shy or introverted to say.... in your dreams you are free to be who you want to be or who you will be because you have visualized it do now it can come true.... Unfortunately I don't sleep much... Two or three hours a night ad a result my night time dreams are not something I often remember and when I do... it us usually about family... for those who know me well they will understand why that is the case. On the other hand during my waking hours I actively daydreams and often my thoughts are about wonderful ladies I have met and the amazing times we have spent together. The human mind is an amazing thing...it allows to remember and recall in intimate detail things that have happened to us... we can remember all the amazing scents associated with the passion....the sounds if the time we spend together... those amazing...rythmatic sounds we associate with sex...like two fingers rubbing quickly across a warm wet clit... or perhaps the slapping sound of bodies coming together.... or maybe just the thumping sound of the headboard against the wall or the squeak of the mattress as it moves on the frame.... yes our mind allows us to capture these moments and replay them at our leisure. But that is not the real amazing thing about our minds...not only does it allow us to replay things we have experienced.... it allows us to imagine and vividly see things we have not yet done.... we can imagine and daydream abut sex with that amazing goddess on CERB that we have not met yet... be we amazing scent.... the texture of her hair and what it is like to run our fingers through it or pull it hard....our wonderful minds allow us to plan what our meeting will be like. My mind frequently engages me in both the memories of amazing mind blowing sessions with wonderful ladies I have met and mental planning for future repeat meetings with these ladies. While less often I also find myself fantasizing about session I have yet to have with CERB ladies who have captured my attention with their posts... pictures...and amazing ads. God Bless our amazing minds. Just my opinion.

The WHO's recent report isn't really talking about the same thing as the latest headline-grabbing bug. Things like SARS, H1N1 and now MERS will inevitably crop up every so often, and we just have to deal with them when they do. What the WHO is talking about is the unfortunate coincidence of two things: the gradual evolution of drug-resistant pathogens, and the fact that there's very little research into new antibiotics. The first is more-or-less inevitable, but the second isn't. it's an unfortunate consequence of the fact that pharmaceutical companies exist to make money, and these days the money is not in treating infectious disease; it's in treating the chronic diseases of the affluent West. If you invent a drug that cures MRSA then you can sell it to a patient that will take it for a few days or weeks and then stop because they're cured, but if you invent a drug that reduces cholesterol you can get decades of continuous revenue from each patient.... and so that's precisely what happens. The WHO is saying, "this needs to change, and here's why". There's no deadline... yet. There will never be a sudden moment when this becomes a huge issue. It'll just get worse and worse and worse, until we realize that we have a major problem on your hands. Of course, the real threat is of something evolving that's as deadly as HIV or ebola and as infectious as the common cold. When that happens, there's a good chance that Homo sapiens will become extinct, as so many other species have done before.

And not taking away from the original post, but ladies have a section/friends within the community to verify the possible gent for a session. The crudeness, if we really want to call it that, or crass, or whatever word anyone wants to use, whatever advertisement works, kudos to those that use their type advertisement. It never has struck me about more of it or less, it's always been around and to be perfectly honest, 99% of advertisements on here have my attention :) Carry on you sexy ladies of Cerb ;)

...into my massage room I thought you might like to watch me undress. I've already taken care of the skirt to give you a glimpse of my panties... Now it's on to my blouse. You've ignited something deep inside me and that burning passion is making me want to caress my body in your absence, in the same way you will when you join me... I'm feeling a little playful and naughty, so here's a cute snap of my outfit, just for you... But I'm seductive too. Don't forget that coy, slow, sensual side of me. The girl who will run her nails over the inside of your thigh ever so slowly, teasing you, waiting to see that intense need in your eyes, prolonging the anticipation... I'm going to start taking off my bustier now...you better hurry and join me! Available at the ALO Spa network: lunamassagespa.com for locations and schedule. Available today by appointment. Call/text 613 700 3831 to book or by PM (appointment only at the location of your choice)

I just checked out her pics... Hannah's smoking hot! Has anyone seen her yet?

I think it all boils down to acceptance. We are all human and as such, have fluctuations in how we feel, what we want/need and the energy we're feeling at any given moment. Some days you're in the mood for intimacy and snuggles while another day you just want to be taken and pleasured. Depending on your mood, you gravitate towards the ads (or to writing the ads) that match but it also means that those opposite might stick out. Sometimes depending on our moods, we ignore all that doesn't match us or they stick out like a sore thumb and turn us off. I don't think it speaks to the industry as much as it speaks to people and to sexuality. Even if you were not in this industry in any way, you would still have all the fluctuations. If you had a partner, one day you might want to wine and dine and then another to bend them over the kitchen table. It's also about those things that are "outside our norm" or not the way we would do things. Again, it's human nature to say "I would never do or say that". As has been pointed out, everyone does what works for them at any given time of the day. I'm sure outsiders reading it would judge the industry based on what they see but honestly, we do that among ourselves too, don't we?

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I think a lot of ladies have a general idea of the age group they are comfortable seeing. I generally see no one under 30 and of course there are always expectations. I have a client in Sydney now a regular and he really rocks. His initial letter was that of a very mature man. Name, rank and serial number. No reference as he was new but all work information easily verified. His age 22. Aside from the fact he looks very young to me, blindfold me and he could be 40 or 50. He always books way ahead , is always on time and treats me like a lady, no a queen. Also very understanding to my schedule and will move around if I ask him . He is such a great client I would write him a recco if possible.

Something I thought of.... Often times (but not all), younger men have a great deal of stamina and can go like the energizer bunny! Don't get me wrong, it's a great deal of FUN, however, this can really wear a working lady out. Perhaps some of the SP's you've contacted are concerned about this. Just my two cents.

I have broken my over 30 rule on more than one occasion. For me, it has more to do with their maturity, level of respect, etc. I have turned down a lot of younger ones due to a lack of the above, and an inherent assumption that they can show up, skip the pleasantries and "get their monies worth". Not gonna happen. I'm sure some offer that and that's fine, but NOT me :) Email someone you're interested in seeing. If you are able to demonstrate a level of respect and maturity, I believe there are SPs who would gladly see you (myself included). Good luck!!

In this lifestyle, speaking in generalities of course, with age comes with maturity. Where as a young man may think he's god's gift, with age comes a maturity, the realization that a gentleman knows he isn't god's gift, but he knows and appreciates that he is going to see one of god's gift, the Goddess he is sharing a hour or a few with. And he appreciates the time the lady has set aside to see him. He does not view her time as an entitlement for him. As has been suggested, contact a lady, build a rapport. When the time is right ask if she will see you. Offer to pay a deposit in advance (there are many well recommended ladies here on CERB in case you are worried about sending money in advance) plus volunteer verification information (your real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email, an unblocked contact phone number) a reference if you have one. She may need other information if you don't have a reference. And btw the ladies can be trusted with this information Be open, forthcoming, show you are more mature than your age, and you may get an companion agreeing to see you despite your youth. And if she declines your request, say thank you and move on. Even if you give her verification information, doesn't mean she owes you an encounter. Be mature at all times, even if you are declined A rambling from a fifty something bald man RG

There are lots of good providers but as it's been mentioned stick with gals who have been reviewed positively. Check out the recommendation section of cerb and also sign up on the other ERB site as the reviews are more open. Welcome to winnipeg! My favs are the Asian Korean gals from VIPOTG, Michelle fox, spin vikki, Emily, Riley and jenni hunter. But there's many more than that depending on your preference.

I think I bought the winning ticket for 649 on Wednesday... thats a highlight....I buy three or four a year so I definately should win ?? My highlight for the day is ....I bought a new truck. A Dodge of course !!