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Honestly, this whole matter makes me nauseous. I really felt that the laws that we had before were the best compromise, especially considering the ways they were enforced. The most screwed up markets in Canada always seemed to me to be the ones that tried to regulate it through bylaws and licensing. I also don't see how any of this is going to reduce street prostitution or make street prostitution any safer. But how lucky for the CPC to have this issue dropped in their laps just in time for the next elections. Great distraction. Sigh.

Reading the comments is SO frustrating. Such ignorance and these are the people influencing the laws the government makes. We don't pay taxes, we're diseased, even if we're in by choice it's because the demons won or because we're poor and destitute or have a drug habit. We're out to desecrate people and relationships, I mean *ARGH*. So frustrating. Let's hope the Supreme Court is still on the ball as I have no faith in the government or the voices being heard over those of sex workers. Would have been nice to see a comment or two from them.

Turn offs? Not many. At my age, I am always pleasantly surprised that a woman will not throw up when we are naked in the same room. These are more general observations than anything else. If there is any advice I can pass along, these would be a few things that I would suggest: 1. Time: Hobbyists are consistently reminded that they are not compensating a provider for a specific service, they are compensating her for her time. Keeping that in mind, the idea of "shoot and scoot" just doesn't fly. A two hour appointment should last two hours unless the hobbyist leaves early at HIS discretion, unless of course he has been a total dickhead. If he has been a dickhead, you have the right to kill him and dissolve his body in the bathtub. 2. Punctuality: These days, everybody has time pressures. As much frustration as it is for a provider when a client is late, it is equally as frustrating when a provider shows up late. Life happens. We all make mistakes. We all get delayed. Just remember, when things start on time, everyone is a lot more relaxed and happy. 3. Social Media Interaction: This is a biggie for me. Whether you are writing here on CERB, on Twitter or on a subscribed Blog, your words are a window into your provider personna. The most beautiful person becomes ugly if they express themselves in a hateful manner. It cuts both ways. Some providers use what we say here as a screening tool - they don't want to deal with assholes and misogynists. Keeping that in mind, we won't see you if you have shown that you don't respect us. We won't see you if you are mean spirited. We won't see you if you twist our words against us. Food for thought. 4. Live rabid monkeys: Don't have them in your incall. They are intimidating. 5. Divided Attention: Everybody has a life. Sometimes we have stuff on our minds that we can't shake. The mark of a true professional in ANY line of work is to put that stuff on a mental shelf and get through the day. It's especially true here, where intimacy is so much harder to achieve when a provider's mind is obviously elsewhere. 6. Unnecessary commentary: Eeeeek. This is a tough one. Have you ever been in an intimate moment that has an undertone of soft and romantic when all of a sudden the badly delivered porn movie dialogue starts? I'm getting the shivers of discomfort just thinking about it. Ohhhhh... and please. Don't speak if your mouth is full... mid BJ commentary is kind of a boner killer. 7. Turkey Bacon: Only if every pig on the planet has died of a horrific flesh eating disease will turkey bacon be acceptable. 8: Outside communication: Turn off your cell phone. Do it. Now. Unless you have a friend or family member that is dying, your attention is with me. I've ended two encounters early because the provider was constantly checking her messages. In virtually EVERY other business, that kind of behaviour would merit discipline or termination. It's a disservice to your professionalism if you can't give me our time. The person on the other end of the line is NOT paying you now. I am. 9: Talking badly about other providers: This is tough. It's a very competitive business. Like many other hobbyists, I don't necessarily provide reviews or recommendations for the majority of providers with whom I have spent my time. Keeping that in mind, you have no idea of the nature of my relationship with nearly any other provider. I may absolutely adore a provider that you have just torn a verbal strip from... and that really doesn't help your cause. 10: Just another client: The biggest mistake any provider can make is to treat a client like "just another client." I have chosen you because you represent something desirable. I have brought my hard earned cash with me because I think you are special. I sought you out because I think you are going to be wonderful to and with me. Treat me like more than a donation envelope. Act as if you want to be with me. Make me feel like you want ME. The best providers (and we have so many great ones) know that the encounter is so much more than an intermingling of moistened body parts. They understand that the fantasy is passion and desire. If you want hobbyists to respect the fact that you are so much more than just a series of desirable body parts, treat HIM like more than a penis with an envelope. Jeebus. I was on a roll there.

Too much make up, implants, dated photos, one-two word responses to emails, generic huns or babes, fly by nighters, disinterest, faking, conceit for no reason and generally poor customer service. Peace MG

With this, I can assume a visit to my business lawyer is in order... I will need to make some changes to my business ie: I will be the only worker here, and need to know more about " anyone who benefits" part confuses me. So does this include the person I rent space from? I suppose I may have to buy a house if that is the case. Advertising may change as well? So that it states transactions are for time spent only( in my case massage only) and no longer for sexual acts, as one would have to be in the room to prove anything at all as well as limited communication so that your not helping to build a case for reasonable cause to have my clients harassed. This will mean the gent's are going to need to read between the lines and things may not be spelled out for you as easily, so we will have to use our imagination a bit more. This seems so backwards, I mean , I represent some ladies because they do not feel safe to book and screen on their own, and now will have to decline anyone who needs the help. I feel that if remain an agency, it may make them look my way as a target, but as far as an INDY provider, well not much notice would be given to me or my clients as we have discussed another thread that they can not go policing every INDY provider, the manpower would be too much and no witnesses other then the one getting services. SIGH....HUMPHF.....here we go!

Wow!!!...talk about a mountain out of a molehill Speaking of context, the post that out of one side of your mouth you found funny and representative of your thoughts yet in the next breath telling people to abstain from violent imagery. Here is OD's post in entirety (copied/pasted) not just a line taken out of context BTW the chilling imagery about "if she had been a bitch...." didn't come from OD, it came from you "Turn offs? Not many. At my age, I am always pleasantly surprised that a woman will not throw up when we are naked in the same room. These are more general observations than anything else. If there is any advice I can pass along, these would be a few things that I would suggest: 1. Time: Hobbyists are consistently reminded that they are not compensating a provider for a specific service, they are compensating her for her time. Keeping that in mind, the idea of "shoot and scoot" just doesn't fly. A two hour appointment should last two hours unless the hobbyist leaves early at HIS discretion, unless of course he has been a total dickhead. If he has been a dickhead, you have the right to kill him and dissolve his body in the bathtub. 2. Punctuality: These days, everybody has time pressures. As much frustration as it is for a provider when a client is late, it is equally as frustrating when a provider shows up late. Life happens. We all make mistakes. We all get delayed. Just remember, when things start on time, everyone is a lot more relaxed and happy. 3. Social Media Interaction: This is a biggie for me. Whether you are writing here on CERB, on Twitter or on a subscribed Blog, your words are a window into your provider personna. The most beautiful person becomes ugly if they express themselves in a hateful manner. It cuts both ways. Some providers use what we say here as a screening tool - they don't want to deal with assholes and misogynists. Keeping that in mind, we won't see you if you have shown that you don't respect us. We won't see you if you are mean spirited. We won't see you if you twist our words against us. Food for thought. 4. Live rabid monkeys: Don't have them in your incall. They are intimidating. 5. Divided Attention: Everybody has a life. Sometimes we have stuff on our minds that we can't shake. The mark of a true professional in ANY line of work is to put that stuff on a mental shelf and get through the day. It's especially true here, where intimacy is so much harder to achieve when a provider's mind is obviously elsewhere. 6. Unnecessary commentary: Eeeeek. This is a tough one. Have you ever been in an intimate moment that has an undertone of soft and romantic when all of a sudden the badly delivered porn movie dialogue starts? I'm getting the shivers of discomfort just thinking about it. Ohhhhh... and please. Don't speak if your mouth is full... mid BJ commentary is kind of a boner killer. 7. Turkey Bacon: Only if every pig on the planet has died of a horrific flesh eating disease will turkey bacon be acceptable. 8: Outside communication: Turn off your cell phone. Do it. Now. Unless you have a friend or family member that is dying, your attention is with me. I've ended two encounters early because the provider was constantly checking her messages. In virtually EVERY other business, that kind of behaviour would merit discipline or termination. It's a disservice to your professionalism if you can't give me our time. The person on the other end of the line is NOT paying you now. I am. 9: Talking badly about other providers: This is tough. It's a very competitive business. Like many other hobbyists, I don't necessarily provide reviews or recommendations for the majority of providers with whom I have spent my time. Keeping that in mind, you have no idea of the nature of my relationship with nearly any other provider. I may absolutely adore a provider that you have just torn a verbal strip from... and that really doesn't help your cause. 10: Just another client: The biggest mistake any provider can make is to treat a client like "just another client." I have chosen you because you represent something desirable. I have brought my hard earned cash with me because I think you are special. I sought you out because I think you are going to be wonderful to and with me. Treat me like more than a donation envelope. Act as if you want to be with me. Make me feel like you want ME. The best providers (and we have so many great ones) know that the encounter is so much more than an intermingling of moistened body parts. They understand that the fantasy is passion and desire. If you want hobbyists to respect the fact that you are so much more than just a series of desirable body parts, treat HIM like more than a penis with an envelope. Jeebus. I was on a roll there." OD takes the time and effort to write insightful posts with both good useful tips and a sense of humour at the same time. His writing is original and a contribution to this community Please OD continue with your humorous insightful posts. Most of us don't tear apart your posts to criticize them, we appreciate and value your contributions. Hell I wish I had your knack for humorous prose A rambling RG

I appreciate your concern but.... We all know OldDog as being a jokester, he says things that are funny and to lighten the mood when need be. He can also say things that can be very poignant and articulate. He has the ability for both and if I may say does both better than most. So to turn his quote into a reason for worry is silly, but that's just my opinion.

ok well let's then compare it to something that we can relate to ... that currently happens right now. If a gent receives a service from a lady that's not advertised, or not usually part of her offering, he doesn't say much to anyone. For example, cim/swallow by a lady who doesn't usually offer. He realizes it's part of a bonus he's received and mum is the word. He knows full well that by disclosing this to anyone, another gent, another lady, anyone, that he risks losing that privilege and maybe the future company of that lady. I only know this because I ran a poll a while back and the results were overwhelmingly in favour of keeping it quiet. I'm not sure anything would change in that regard, just because there was a regulation. The gent wants to look after his service, and his lady. He's not going to jeopardize that. Gents? thoughts?

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This is a really interesting thread. I've been thinking about it at various points through the day. I really do think that some healthy and capable people are just not "wired" for major relationships with other people. They just don't have the emotional receptors that other people do, and so human interaction is mostly just puzzling and distracting to them. The rewards that most of us associate with interpersonal connection just don't happen for these people. And without the capacity to experience those emotional rewards, adding more people to their lives really wouldn't make them any happier; in fact it would just stress them out. That's a small minority of people, though. Most of us value human relationships because we ache not to be alone in the world. We want people who will participate in our lives so that we form a little community with shared bonds of experience, and upon which we can rely in difficult times. Regarding love vs. acceptance, here's my view: I hope that the people who love me care enough that they will challenge me when they think I'm doing something wrong, and explain their concerns. If I don't have an answer for those concerns, then (hopefully) I'll reconsider my actions. But here's the deal: if I *do* have an answer for the concerns, or if I explain that I understand the risks and I'm comfortable with them, then I hope the people who love me will respect my self-determination enough to let me pursue my chosen path. It's a balance, and can be hard to strike. Finally: it's maybe a useful exercise to ask ourselves two questions on this subject: a) what do you think "love" is? b) why do you think love is important? What do you think is significant about having it, or not having it? Does love, or its absence, affect how you view yourself? I'll go away and formulate my own answers, and post them later.

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Love IS acceptance. If you have someone who says they love you but the can't accept you for who you are and constantly want to change you, that is not love. Llove is not conditional on meetings someone else's expectations. You can be happy without someone else's acceptance as long as you have your own IMO. Spending your time chasing after someone else's is just a waste of time and energy and never really makes you happy in the end because their conditional love may change conditions. Happy comes from within. It is important to focus on what you have versus what you don't have because with one you can be content and happy while the other is always chasing something elusive. There are very few people who achieve complete happiness but the right perspective can give you day to day joy.

Funny though...listening to Canada AM this morn they said it like this... " went in favor FOR the prostitutes" well not really!!! Cause having a chance of harassing our clients will obviously force us change our methods, agencies and drive us into the shadows even worse then before:(

Make 100% sure that you and the lady is going to be discrete, If the owners, ever caught wind of it the lady will be fined big time if she is caught talking about it inside the bar. It is a huge deal to the bar licence, one that the owners had to face in the past. This is why the changes to the booth rooms have been made. It is strictly entertainment purpose only.

I don't believe we can live without love. Love comes in so many forms, not just human entanglements. There is romantic love, familial love, love for a pet or a career or a cause one is passionate about. Love is a central need that we, as humans, have. Even those who never had a relationship or sexual relations have probably still felt the need and lure of love, just in a different way than most people perceive it. One of the greatest of these is self love. Very few people would look at this as love or a fundamental need but when it's not present, everything around is impacted. Self love impacts esteem, acceptance, overcoming fear to take on new challenges, to go after what we're passionate about no matter what it is. Babies, disabled, mentally challenged etc all have needs of love, they just look different and sometimes it takes a different perspective or a lot of searching. This, I believe, is ingrained because these people must rely on others for so many things. It is not a choice, it is a fundamental need. There have been so many studies done on behavior and learning and in most of these, there is a thread of love and connection. Love is such an expansive concept that to touch on even half the aspects would require a much longer post than anyone would care to read. Bottom line is, I believe no matter what form it takes, it is a need and one that everyone has. It's when this need is denied that life is negatively impacted and the side effects come out. There are so many stories based around people not having something important in their life or losing it or fearing it. No matter the topic, I believe a lot boils down to lack of love in some form or another.

Results from the online survey: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/majority-of-canadians-thinks-selling-sexual-services-should-not-be-illegal-report-1.1848419

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I've had many men say to me "My Dear" and for some reason it just feels normal. I'm from east coast and have heard soooo many people say that to me, I don't think twice about it. However, I don't see it as fake like other terms used to address a person. I usually see the word "Hun" in a text. I have many welll established clients I call "Honey" but it's more of a term of endearment after I've spent time with them. It is what it is. Go to Baltimore and you will hear "Hon" all the time! lol.

I will speak for me only... i could not live happily without love in my life. I'm not saying we always need to be in a romantic relationship to be happy but I need to know I care for and love people and they return that love... that includes romantic love.... love of children and parents and other family. I can't imagine myself getting by without someone who cared for me... but that may just be me. Just my opinion

a turnoff for me is arriving and find that the SP or MA is either high as a kite, or drunk as a skunk. might just be me, but I don't find it professional to be doing that when your providing a service.

well sweeties .... ;) I'd rather use a term of endearment than accidentally call you by the wrong name ;) so that's my defense. I am never offended by use of any term of endearment ... at $275 an hour you can call me whatever the hell you want to call me :D

Jason Ferguson, this is what he's talking about: Obviously, girls who don't have any bacon on hand have more germs...

Who cares why a provider doesn't want a certain client? She had her reasons and they are entirely her own. It could be a million things that have nothing to do with racism

I myself do not discriminate race( not judgemental at all when it comes to your nationality)...but there are some that probably do because they only date black men so maybe they are afraid of running into someone they may know on a personal level and yes some being ignorant and racist! But then again just like it is a man's.choice of what type of woman he would like to spend time with it is our choice as SP how we would like to.conduct our business I was told I loose business because I prefer to see the older mature gentlemen and.not young.men and that may be true but at the end of the day its what I feel comfortable with Xo

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I agree with what most have said about pet names. Especially on the first few dates. Major turn off. After we have gotten to know each other after two or three dates then I do not mind the occasional "dear" or "sweetie". Smokers - One thing in particular that will definitely end our date is if she is a smoker. I make it quite clear in my profile and in our initial contact that I am a non-smoker. Some ladies think that if they do not smoke during the date that that is acceptable. -- IT IS NOT!!! The smell is in your hair, skin and clothes. You may not notice it but non-smokers sure do. Clothing Requests - If the lady takes clothing requests please, please, please, try your best to accommodate. I think my requests are reasonable. Modest - conservative clothing, light perfume, little or no makeup, matching bra and panties - preferably white, lace, or floral. I have had ladies show up with the weirdest lingerie ever. Or they were mismatched - well worn and full of holes. What is with those boy-short panties. Ugh... Potty Mouth - This is a major turn off for me - swearing. Very seldom if ever will you hear me use curse words. Now, there is an exception - the heat of passion. There is nothing sweeter than the sound of a woman getting off. ;) Communication - I really appreciate it when a lady tells me what she wants and likes in the bedroom. Especially if she is close to Cumming. Hands please - If we are naked together please try to keep one hand on my penis. Unless of course we are engaged in some other activity. ;) Don't worry about getting me off to soon. I will not cum before you. ;) All in all, I must say that I have not met a Cerb lady that I was disappointed with. You are all very wonderful girlfriends.

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Don't know yet but it definitely won't have garlic or onion, I have a very special date later this week RG

Guys who book to just cancel, seems to be a game some like to play. What they feel they accomplish doing this is beyond me, however, I do keep a bad date list and know that guys that do this have the character flaw, not I:)

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I have read the entire tread and if I have done any of those to any gents I have met and they read this..I apologize in advance(I know I have been guilty to not reply fast enough at time due to my travels) I personally do not like the babe Hun etc name when I never met someone however it seem it the new type of intro some guys do. I try in general not to use those words as I hate them... My usual reply to text like that is Hello it's Victoria ..how can I help you ? I know it may sound cold however nice introduction always help to smooth a convo

I agree even if illegal or regulations this would continue.. Just my opinion

Oh no U got that wrong babe!!! I am not fake at all I am just being ME!! And me is just loving to call and being call pet names!!! Now U know me and U can see me here and hey understand if U will never book an apt. I respect U. Cheers for now Barbara Additional Comments: Oh no U got that wrong babe!!! I am not fake at all I am just being ME!! And me is just loving to call and being call pet names!!! Now U know me and U can see me here and hey understand if U will never book an apt. I respect U. Cheers for now Barbara Additional Comments: Then specify it to the lady beforehand love!! I love to be perfumed almost every where on my body pussy included!! Just mention it babe. Then again U can shower or take a bath (at my place for my shower isn't working anymore since they fixed my running tap!!!). We R there to please and not to displease U hun! Barbara

I do consider Taxi Driver a very good movie and perhaps a classic but best of lists are very subjective. I think it may be an age thing to a degree the context of the times may be lost. I was 22 and the subject matter was considered very provocative for it's day by the public and critics. We were just being exposed to and getting access to non studio indie films and films from Europe and Australia which until then has been quite hard to find except in large centres like Toronto and Vancouver. There was no internet and VCR's were very rare thus films and going to see films mattered to us much more than today in my view. Peace MG

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Not too much to complain of here, happily. I count myself pretty lucky and the ladies I've met have generally been very professional and special. The one thing that does bug me a bit is a lady checking her phone repeatedly. Once at the beginning of an encounter is understandable (for all I know she has a system where she texts someone after meeting as a safety precaution), but after that I guess I'm selfish enough that I want us to be focused on just each other. It puts a damper on things if I feel I'm not engaging enough to hold your attention for a mere hour. I do have to say I'm a little surprised by the consensus of how many guys don't like being called "hun, babe, etc." I always find those sort of pet names quite endearing and affectionate myself. But, as in most things, to each their own!

Booking an hour minimum with a lady and after the quick introduction and shower and clothes removed she proceeds with a great BJ so good that I know I'm about to blow my load and ask her to slow it down a bit she agrees and 30 second later goes back at it to finish the job. When I'm done and request a shower to go for round 2 she says its only SOG. In and out in 15 minutes, paid for the full hour.

Never pay for sex...what is marriage LOL Here is a quick summation. Prostitution is legal in Canada Outcalls are legal (the lady comes to your place be it hotel, home) Incalls are illegal (you go to the lady's place) Do not discuss in a public place-ie soliciting is illegal EMails, texts, phone etc are not places and ok to use Car dates illegal and I have to add..... Although not a cop I'm LE, and I've been exposed, while exposed, well actually I exposed myself :-) LOL so to speak, even showed a lady my badge. I wasn't doing anything illegal. Anyhow, a quick summation. That plus the links Brad provided, and using the search function on CERB, a wealth of information here Welcome to CERB and this lifestyle RG

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What about this guy. Is he eye candy for the ladies??? BTW for those that don't know, this is John Malkovich. Why did I select him. Well a few ladies have commented I look like him, so if he is considered eye candy for the ladies well maybe I have a chance to be eye candy for the ladies too LOL RG

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I just love him.. he is my celeb crush damm.. Additional Comments: here is more...:-D of sexy shemar moore he is off of criminal minds