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Okay, I don't know if anyone has heard of this or seen it and I'm not sure if this is the right place to post it but here goes anyway. I saw this article on another forum and frankly, I'm disgusted that this is our system of justice. While they want to make criminals of all of us, they allow this killer to walk the streets even though he doesn't accept responsibility for his actions. The victim's family, understandably is appalled and dismayed, to say the least. Here's the link. link to the Calgary Sun article.

I'm with you RG. The killer, then the courts, then the media continue to victimize this young lady and for what? Because she is/was native and a sex trade worker? Facts that should never, EVER have any bearing on this case. This asshat gets stoned and drunk, can't get it up so he chokes the life out of her.Not only that, he tried to dispose of the body. Yes, when he sobered up, he came clean but that was likely only because he realized that he would be caught anyway. What really bothers me is this notion that he should get any leniency at all because he is A) white B) a jock and C) can afford a high priced mouthpiece. Even now, he blames it all on the drugs and doesn't take full responsibility. Yes, it is only day parole but imo, he should never see the light of day again. Murder is murder and this is not justice.

I removed the name of the spa from this thread as the spa name is irrelevant and this is probably a ONE TIME issue and no need to scare anyone from going to this particular spa in fear this would happen to them (it would just hurt the spa's business)

Haven't been to VIPOTG for a while but Clara caught my eye. I was prepared for enhanced breast because VIPOTG only on very rare occasion sends a provider who has natural breasts. But to my delight they were natural. In her photos it looks like she has large enhanced breast (push up bra illusion) but other than that the photos are very accurate. She's advertised as a C cup but I'd think she was closer to a B (which I like) Her face is very very pretty. I should say that, for a change, looks very close to the advertised age. She is very long, slender and delicate. She was very friendly and her english was workable. Long thick healthy black hair. She is here for 8 more days

I think it's highly inappropriate to post this on cerb. For one thing, how do you know for sure it happened there, and second of all, even if it did, who's to say it had anything to do with you being at ******? It's a shared parking lot open to anyone walking or driving by. I do not think this thread follows the spirit of the board ("if you do not have anything nice to say", you shouldn't say anything at all"). I think it goes without saying that if you plan to claim this damage on your insurance, you need a police report, but as far as catching the culprits, highly unlikely.

No underwear..ever! Even in a dress. Okay if it's a short dress, I will put a pair on. Otherwise, I always go commando.

If it's worth the effort, aka, you enjoy that's persons company, even without sex, and your not in a confrontational situation most of the time, then yes, It's worth it. Sex is something that you can enjoy, sort of in the moment type of reasoning, but real life long friendship and companionship, well that's hard to find. Sometimes great minds may think a like, but, this doesn't mean their bodies are in sync. Food for thought. I think there is a reasonable solution to any situation, after true love eludes a good majority of relationships. You'll have to excuse my ramblings, as I installed the new update on my iPad. Not a good choice. Thanks

ha, I think you're right about that DarksideHobbyist. But any opportunity to stick Star Trek into the conversation..

surprised no one added Nathan Fillion here

With all the negativity happening all around us, I thought a thread to focus on the good and positive might be a good thing. So share those things that make you smile or that you are grateful for. These are not highlights but rather more simple things that perhaps you overlook but add to your day. When someone thinks of you and says hello The smell of fresh brewed coffee The funny things that children say as they figure out the world around them The ability to play music anytime, anywhere for any mood The first touch of sun on your skin after being indoors An unexpected picture posted online that makes you laugh, better if a snort! Homemade brown bread

Touring can be lonely at times specially when visiting a new city...where to go, what to see...and by yourself it can be a long tour. This post is to mention 3 wonderfuls ladies I got the chance to spend time with in at johns and Halifax. These ladies made my trip so much more fun :) Savannah Lane...thank you for everything...you are a real friend! Can't wait to see you again and tour with you xxx Clarissa...well my dear...we need to go dancing more often :) thanks again for the ride back and forth to the airport :) you are one awesome lady! MsManda...it was so nice to meet you and spend some time with you shopping and dinning...Hope to see you very soon! Bianca xxx

Very old faded black briefs, need to do laundry this evening. Thought about going commando like NV but I'm sure people would not appreciate me doing it versus NV.

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I'm single and prefer it that way. Although sometimes it gets lonely in that big bed of mine. I haven't found the right person so far but hope to one day when the time is right. It's not the right time at this point but I know he is out there and will find me one day. I do miss waking up in the middle of the night with a surprise bj. The ex bf always loved that. It's the little things I miss but overall I think I'm better off single. Honestly some of my longtime regulars who keep coming back just give me enough company that I need as well as new customers. I spend a lot of time alone and don't go to bars or any places like that, I don't drink, etc. These things don't interest me anymore. I have a desire to know why I'm here and my purpose, etc. A lot of interesting things have been happening to me in a spiritual sense in the last few months and I'm grateful for that. I don't look at life the same way anymore. I'm just figuring myself out at this point in my life. It's an interesting ride. I believe we are all separate beings and we cannot look at another person to make us completely happy. It is our own personal responsibility and one of these responsibilities to remain separate in terms of our own personal satisfactions and self-love while remaining true to ourselves despite the fact whether we're in a relationship or not. Only then can we bring our best qualities to another person who we decide to share our lives with.

I've had very good results since implementing 45 min appointments a while back. Sometimes a half hour is not enough but an hour is too much time. Especially in the middle of a work day. Posted via Mobile Device

Because I am a same day, short notice booker, my most popular time spot request is 30 minutes, followed by 45 minutes and then hour requests. The 45 minute option usually my most popular request when I am travelling.

Best to read all the posts that have been made - not sure if people will be rushing to send you messages. Do you have a personal shopper do your Xmas presents shopping too? LOL

Nil. A nice warm pair of Fleece PJ pants though.

Somehow I don't think BP is the final frontier, lol

Like antlerman, I play world of tanks.

I'm married but there is no intimacy there, I tried but the hobbyist life is for me right now I think.

The attitude of the Calgary Sun is exactly what allows these killings to continue. No woman should die like that, but the Calgary Sun specifically says she deserves no public sympathy. Every woman in Canada should be outraged. Everyone should be writing the editor, calling women's advocates, calling advertisers to tell them they are boycotting the Sun. Guys too! Get off your butt, this is a chance to Do something Now!

Agreed, you murder someone, be it first degree or second degree, you should never see the light of day, or at least it takes a LONG TIME before you get to see daylight. Her life was worth far more than seven years of his Legally he may have met the criteria for second degree, but the Judge could have made his Parole/Day Parole eligibility much longer. And just being eligible didn't mean the PBC had to grant him Day Parole RG

I got into this lifestyle after being single for several years. I don't really feel this lifestyle is anything life a relationship, so I don't see it as a substitute for one. I get different things from this lifestyle than I do from a relationship. It's probably because I always try to date women with whom I feel a true friendship. Good looks and sex appeal aren't very important to me when dating, I am thinking about longer term compatability. I'm looking for a companion. When looking for an SP, I am thinking far shorter term and with my dick. It's a sex fantasy. We're not going to live together, raise kids together, or even talk for more than a few minutes. I am looking for someone with whom I am sexually compatable.

I've never had trouble being monogamous and only partake in this lifestyle when I am totally single. As soon as I become interested in somebody romantically, I generally lose interest in hobbying.

As for NSA and CSEC, I'm with ice and others, let's not go overboard with the paranoia here. They have much more important shit to deal with in a world on the verge of total destruction. Yes, LE will be a little more vigilant for awhile after the new legislation comes in and will want to "make an example" of some "pervert" out here. I'll tell you what, I'll fall on my sword if need be and publicize my info. Let them come and get me and try to prove anything in a court of law. They have to prove I am purchasing sex (I never talk about money with an SP, ever and never mention sex in email or text or PM or whatever). As I said before in my earlier post, I already give the ladies more info without being asked. I don't care if they know who I really am and how to reach me.

Now I understand why RG doesn't hunt. Thank your solving that mystery. Are you going to get into trouble with the fat bastards club for divulging this bf only section information with the rest of us?

All good points. There are some amazing ladies here on Cerb, and many of the better providers will gravitate here. Especially those who are interested in developing a business based on their reputation. The other site in question offers volume. Although traffic has increased here, the number of ladies posting ads is fairly low compared to cities such as Ottawa. IMO, Cerb is a place to recommend escorts and other providers. Not just Cerb members. I do think we owe it to ourselves (and to the site) to spread the word about Cerb if we meet a new provider, but limiting the conversation to members only seems counter productive to me. I bet many ladies end up here due to the fact that there has been positive discussion about them. Just my thoughts, Happy Hobbying Mikey

Happy Birthday to a very lovely lady!

Belated best wishes to a lady who defines the terms kind, caring, generous, giving and community minded. You inspire us all Issy!

A little of most of what is on your list but one important thing for me is missing. Chemistry. I try and determine this by a variety of things including her posts, her site/advertising, and maybe we even cross paths in chat. I look for a lady that I think I would be a good match with. I know it is a little hard to tell before you meet but thus far I'm pretty satisfied with my intuitions. Cub

I also used to work out of a place downtown Ottawa specifically for incalls only and the director of the condo board lived right next door. I was very low volume and only doing 1 hour or multiple hour appts at the time. What I used to do is as soon as I buzzed them in, I would go wait at the door and hear the elevator to come up, look out the peep hole and then would open the door for the client before they could ever knock. That woman who was head of the condo board always complained when I opened the closet door or if I was laughing on the phone with a friend or even breathed for that matter. The walls were terribly thin. But not once did she know my business. I have the ability to be very unassuming when I want to be and I dressed very low key and blended in. Thankfully it was a 2 bedroom and I used the other room that didn't share the same wall with her condo. However one day I heard her and her husband having sex in the middle of the night and she was a screamer so I banged on the wall. I never heard anything again. I used to spy on my neighbors and figure out all their schedules. lol. Years later I saw this woman in Holt Renfrew and still have that sound of her screaming behind the wall etched in my brain! Yuck!

1) and 2) Nervous laughter if I could not detect the source. Must use other senses then hearing. Hello darkness my old friend I've come to fart for you again. Like a scent softly creeping Left an odour while I was sleeping And that smell, like tiny rain drops fell Upon the fart of silence.

I don't want to hijack this thread more than necessary, and I'm sure this will be discussed to death over the next couple of months, but I do feel that a dissent from the pessimism is necessary... I see no reason to stop seeing well-known providers with good reputations. I consider this to be like doing 110 on the highway: technically illegal, but nobody cares. It's not clear what will happen here. Some boards have already moved to the Cocos/Keeling islands (bonus points for anyone who knows where they are without looking it up). It's not clear that this is entirely necessary, and it's not hard to do if it becomes necessary. I don't think CERB or any other board needs to shut down. I've said this before, and I'll say it again: look at the US. It's a far more hostile environment than what's heading our way, and yet the oldest profession continues to thrive, as do the boards and everything else. They won't manage that. Oh, yes, they'd love to, and they're trying to - but they'll fail. And I will take great pleasure in contributing to their failure. OK, end of thread-hijack!

Seriously Lee, we all love yah but I think you have waaay too much time on your hands. But in answer to your question, unless it was me farting, I'd probably think I was dreaming. Scared no. If it was stinker, probably pissed off, lol. Reminds me of when I was a kid and there were 6 of us sharing one bathroom. Dad did his "business" first thing in the morning. So we had the pleasure of trying to get ready for school with the after-smell. I got really good at holding my nose as a result which has benefitted me as an SP in certain situations.

Hockey Game Seven, Habs beat Boston in OT Shoot out or no shoot out to decide OT if tied.

Wow. I could not let your statements stand without challenging them. First, you made an awkward situation by ignoring the instructions given on which door to enter. Just because you don't like the front door, does not give you the right to enter through another door. If you don't like the choice they directed you too, don't go in. Go somewhere else. I know that the roving hands is a real pet peeve of many. If the ma moves away then please stop. Nothing worse then those that feel because they are paying for massage and he they ALSO have the right to try to get more services. Did you pay for the extra time and services you tried to get? I used to have 2 rates one for massage/he and one for massage/full service. I would clarify ahead of time. However those paying for he would always try to put their fingers in my kitty, try daty etc. I stopped the 2 rates because asking for access to kitty is in fact a full service. Just an FYI, for those do not provide full service, it feels a lot like sexual assault when those try for more services - especially when they have clearly indicated they want you to stop. Please consider this the next time you try a stunt like that again.

Not a chance in .....Heaven, That I am gone ;-) Just Sneaky ;-) Always best to text me as I am not as active online as I would like to be. Thankya! Still Roarin' XO

I love indulging occasionally in Haagen Dazs ice cream. Omg, I so love feeling it melt in my mouth...hmmm

I've been with the same woman for 31 years. She has my heart and the kind ladies of Cerb provide me with what my wife can't. I was single when I was in my twenties. I think it would kinda suck to be single in your fifties. Being attached as I approach retirement is better, for me.

I had a pretty reasonable marriage for 25 years, which came to an end when my wife got cancer and died. I quite deliberately avoided getting involved with another women for a two or three year period after her death. Now I suppose it would be nice to have a new partner, sometimes it's lonely. I travel, and have grown used to living a solitary life, but am a bit cautious about taking the plunge. It would be such a shame to enter a new relationship that failed. Using ladies services, fulfills a brief need, but it's not really possible to expect the same level of intimacy that is to be found in a committed relationship, so maybe I will try again, but won't necessarily be disappointed if it doesn't happen.

Been attached for so long I'm not sure what unattached would even feel like. I like it so I'll stick with it. Peace MG

I'm married and happy, I would not change a thing. Yes being in a relationship as its up and down but that is why people compromise and everybody is happy. She loves me to debt, and I love her to death. Meeting her was fate, becoming her friend was my choice but falling in love with her was out of my control.

When one of the dog's, cat's or bunny comes up to you to play with you.

Don't despair lovely gents of Halifax. I am thinking seriously about just this matter. I have room and with the new laws more confidence in my ability to make this happen. Stand by for an announcement this summer!

Maybe after I get to know the lady a bit. As I said in another thread, anything shorter than an hour, especially for the first couple visits, seems artificially short.