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This subject has been extensively discussed before, always heated, apparently with no right answer http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=181140&highlight=blacks http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=151618 Some things to keep in mind 1. A lady has the absolute right to choose who she is intimate with, irrespective of a clients race, creed, colour, religion, age, body size, hair/lack of it etc etc etc 2. Forcing a SP to be sexually intimate with a man she does not wish to be with is akin to a sexual assault. Doesn't no mean no...even if the reason is skin colour 3. Often ladies may have a BF/SO (some who may not know their GF/SO is an SP) who is for lack of a better phrase, part of a small ethnic group in her city, and seeing someone of the same ethnic group as a client could publically expose her to that small community where her profession as an SP could be discovered. Racism may not be the reason, it may be because of discretion and anonymity. 4. Yes maybe racism too. Not saying it doesn't happen. But that said what man would really want to see a woman who doesn't want to see him. There are many beautiful women out there that aren't racist and would love to spend time with a respectful gentleman of any ethnicity. That's just off the top of my head. I'll guarantee this thread will end up heated. I'm already feeling uncomfortable posting RG

It is government logic. Premise A: Govt plans to shut down all prostitution by eliminating all advertising (because they know that no ads means no sex workers). Premise B: Govt knows it will get flak from voters if they have any legislation that criminalizes anything done by any sex worker, including any self advertising (which includes standing on street corner) Conclusion by govt: create a law that will make criminals out of all Canadian advertising venues (online and paper advertising) if they accept money from any sex worker to publish her ads Results: sex workers will have no place that can legally accept her paying them to publish to her legal ads, therefore all prostitution will come to a screeching halt because no client will be able to find a sex worker. Ever. Solution: sps now write ads that do not advertise their sexual services. Advertising sites and papers happily can take her $$ to publish her ads. Clients benefit because they will also not be contacting/solicitating the services of sex workers for advertised sexual services, they will be contacting an escort for time/companionship services, or a massage provider for massage services. Side benefit: Govt happy because they are the first country in the world to eradicate and stop all sex work!! And we can tell, because there are no sp ads anymore. And sp ads are used to determine the number of underage sps (because their photos 'look' underage) or trafficked sps (because they 'traveled" from Ottawa to Toronto, therefore must be trafficked). Thus, all abolitionist groups will be out of work, nothing to see, nothing to do, no one to rescue.

It's not racism. It's personal preference for WHATEVER reason. This topic has been discussed before on cerb, most notably: http://cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=181140&highlight=blacks I am in no way speaking for everyone, but I have met some SPs who are will not see black clients, tell me the reason for doing so is their past/present boyfriends or handlers were black men and they don't see clients of the same race they date. I knew an Sp who was of another ethnicity who would not see clients of that ethnic group because she did not want to run into anyone she might know from her community. Sps provide an intimate service and are when it comes to our bodies, it's our rules. And we shouldn't have to explain ourselves to anyone.

It's not racism, it's personal preference. I choose the ladies that I want to spend time with and certain skin colours do not get my attention because it does not turn me on. Does that make me a racist? I don't believe so, at least I hope not.

Yes, I agree with Alexxxis. You took the words out of my mouth.lol. I would rather be discrete in exchanging communication with the client as she mentioned to keep the client safe. After all, aside from services, clients are paying for discretion. That is what I have always given them and will continue to do so. Why would I put my clients in jeopardy for the sake of being able to discuss certain things? I will cover them because these are my clients and how I make my living. The customer comes first in this situation. Pun intended!

And, the last time I checked, the sps are not waiting tables at a restaurant, where their contact with people is limited to talking to them, and putting a plate of food down in front of them. There isn't going to be human rights committees started up in order to force sps to service everyone who contacts them, because that is procuring/coercion/trafficking and will remain against the laws. So complain about it in an ad, or as an sp's particular policy all you wish, it won't get you in the door to see her if she has chosen this path. I happen to think that assuming an sp is racist because she has any such policy is prejudging her without having the knowledge or understanding of why she has the policy.

Not gonna touch this one. I've said my piece in previous threads.

I've always hated those asking me "what they are going to get for their money". I am not the sum of bj+daty+intercourse=me/$. Sorry, but I'm a feminist at heart. I am much more then that. I'm taking the stance that my reputation speaks for itself. There are those that have met me, know I know how to rock their world. So, I will not discuss specifics anymore. What I do with one guy, might not work with the next. So, they can see me on my terms. If they need specifics, they need to move on. I'm willing to loose out, to see those that understand we as women are not the sum of our parts. Would a first time blind date on pof ask ahead what they are going to get at the end of the date? Of course not. He can hope, dream, but at the end of the day, ymmv. So i suggest your recos, stories, titles work better. Guys need to read between the lines. If they need to be spoon fed, they need to go back to preschool. Look at USA sites. How do they advertise. Take your cues from them. I am taking this opportunity to market myself the way I want. I no longer let clients make me put myself in a position of having to promise something I am not sure I want to provide. It's like the guy who wants daty, and shows up with a full blown beard that's stubble. It's not fun, and if I promised it ahead of time, how do I now say no? Guys that know me, know I'm a greedy slut to good daty, but if it's crappy, why would I want to continue? So, I've said it before. I'm not worried. I'm not the one who is in danger of being arrested. The guys are the ones that need to change how they choose. I'm going to continue rocking the world of those that seek me out. Just taking back my power in this dynamic.

After a two-week hiatus, again stopped by 340 on a Saturday afternoon (10/25). Arrived about 3:30 and found the club to be fairly active although the crowd thinned out by about 5:00-5:30. A number of the recent Saturday afternoon regulars were present - Sasha, Paris, Brandi, Juicy (?) and the always breathtaking Jenny as well as a couple of darker-haired ladies not familiar to me. In general, I've found the Saturday afternoons when I've been in recently (during October) have been somewhat busier than I remember these afternoons being in the past.

I find that men from certain countries, particularly new immigrants from those certain countries, were not raised in a culture in which women are equal or highly valued or treated delicately. Which makes the job tougher than it already is. Ladies' screening processes are none of anybody's business, whether those screening processes would be deemed 'racist' or not by the general public.

I have work in this industry close to a decade I have seen some ladies in south clearly state no black...it's really hard to describe each situation I don't discriminate I see all background however recently I start to ask ethnicity and age to have a better sense of who I deal with I have canceled in middle of the session someone that was way too aggressive with a large equipment to be call racist..As funny as it sound I have date several guys of his ethnicity Knowing sometime ethnicity help me to be prepare to understand some behaviors You know as shocking as it can be fir some it's a lady preference ..some ladies choose to not see overweight men under 25 men.. As much as it sound like racism some ladies have a problem service black,Indian,Arab I don't .. However I can recognize that some of different nationality not all have different smell behaviors etc I personally decide to judge on each different person individually I see obese handicap person but I do expect them to be forward as different issue can arise.. As for asking ethnicity or age it just help me to know a bit what to expect ..of course by generalizing Lisbeth i know it sad that some escorts refuse a client base on his color but it's her decision her body and probably her lost.. I have met ladies that won't see different ethnicity yet they have a partner of different ethnicity .. I personally only discriminate arrogant not nice guys lol

One thing that came to mind as I am reading this is because of SP's having to be more creative in their writing and not actually talking about services, I think we may see more bookings for longer sessions. I could be totally wrong but it seems that if we, as clients, have to find out after we arrive, we may not be able to do those walk in 15 min or fast15 or whatever that I see in some ads. Of course, there are guys who just want a quick bang out there and don't care about anything else so maybe things won't change much. Personally, I like to have more time and enjoy myself. Even 1/2 hr sessions are too short for my liking but that's just me. When all is said and done, I do go back to reading and comprehension, though. Guys need to slow down and read the ads/websites thoroughly and develop the skill of reading between the lines. Learning how to pick out the subtle nuances of clever writing will go a long way to avoiding confusion, imo. And saying they don't have time or can't because they are on their I-phone is a total cop-out. People need to stop being lazy and maybe that is one good thing that could come out of this.

I have done a lot of reading on this bill C-36, and find it completely contradictory and confusing in wording. I have websites that will have to be totally revamped, and that is not the problem. I believe Fortunateone put this all too well, we as providers, will be impossible to find if this goes through. Companionship, in this instance, will have to go back to the ways of almost secrecy and mystery. Yes we can have pictures on our sites, but the chosen wording will be basically 'if you like what you see, come and find out'. Which is unfortunate. We as sp's quite often have no idea of who we are dealing with when engaging in a 'first meeting' with a new client. We don't know what you look like, what you are looking for, or if we as the provider will even have a sexual attraction to you. Clients are going to have to become diligent in being patient with providers as to which services will be available to them. As far as I am concerned, there are a lot of services that I offer, and only a few that I do not, but for providers that offer only a limited 'selection' of services, there will be the aire of mystery for the clients. They may not get what they want when contacting a provider, until the client is actually with the provider and finds out what is available. It seems to me that freedom of the press is taking a turn for the worst in this case. I am not free to say what I want in advertising.

You may be thinking of a different site. I don't recall seeing a Cerb . cc

Well, I WOULD have been in Ottawa tonight on my way through to see my daughter. But a bout of flu forced me to cancel plane reservations. THAT seat sale cost me a bundle! LOL The good news though is that once I'm 100% I'll be driving up and therefore I will be on my own schedule. So that is my highlight and I can look forward to getting better!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Mostly it's because YOU (the hobbyist) will no longer be safe in buying "SEX" so if I don't * cough,cough * sell it, well... you see what I mean by now, I hope. Yes, I am still allowed to advertise my own "sexual services" but the catch 22 is that you are not allowed to purchase them. So, by selling you "TIME" not "SEX" you are safer.

Your advertising should reflect you and the more descriptive words the better. "Money is being exchanged for time or time and companionship". While I don't know what type of dates you offer, the following is a suggestion: Wild, adventurous and Intense could be used to describe a hot pse style date. Sensual, romantic, and gentle could be used for a gfe style date. Put the word safe anywhere in there and you have a safe gfe date. Basically a visually descriptive paragraph describing you and the time together, more is better in this case for what you write. It is about getting people to read between the lines, yet being clear so they get it. I suggest, start with the highlights about you and then get more visually descriptive as you start writing about the date you offer. Think about your best asset and go from there. Once you start writing it does get easier. I hope this helps. xoxo Emily

For the record, I myself have met Caucasian, Canadian-born men who also treat women this way. Stereotyping races is the exact definition of racism and surely has no place on the forum.

Well what should happen is with this diversion program, a bunch of ladies and gents should get together at the diversion program for a poly party LOL Oh wait, I'll bet no diversions like that for the guys is there? Does that mean the CPC encourages poly amorous lesbian encounters LOL RG

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Re: Getting creative... maybe a few short erotic stories clients can find on another site that is not associated with the SP. I enjoy writing and have a dirty imagination. lol.

Does anyone have any links to documentation where this camp thing is verified. Most sex workers and their organizations have chosen to take the high road in this fight, to use logic and reason. Let us now not drop to the anti C-36 level of manufacturing facts out of thin air. However, if that is real I would like to be able to see it.

I do not believe its racism, I do believe its preference, for whatever reason. I can certainly understand the ethnicity backgrounds and not wanting to run into someone 'accidentally' from ones own ethnic background in a small community of that ethnicity. It makes perfect sense to me. Providers that do not wish to see gentlemen from any particular ethnic group, no matter which group that may be, do most certainly have the right to choose. After all, gentlemen that seek our services as providers, are certainly free to not choose any one of us due to our ethnic background, or hair color, or physical appearance. If a provider is being rude about about it, then that is a discussion between the provider and gentleman, or actually, just don't communicate with that particular provider. Rudeness is not tolerated well in this business, in any form, from either provider nor client.

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Thanks for the responses all, that helped (and yes, you were all very gentle). Thanks RG and I think I see what you're saying, but from what I've read of the bill this doesn't seem to be quite the case. The purchase of sex will indeed become illegal, but the sale of it will not be, at least in the case of an independent lady advertising her own services. There's a specific exemption that says no one will be prosecuted for "an advertisement of their own sexual services." That's why I was confused about why ladies would have to change their websites. I do get the idea that ladies making changes to 'companionship only' and such do protect clients. Though I wouldn't think someone would have to be too concerned talking with known and reputable ladies any more in the future than someone would be now who arranges an incall which is technically illegal. But yes, I can see how it might make a gent more comfortable and protected to make contact knowing they aren't technically asking for anything illegal. And not being to advertise or even be a member on places like Cerb (I do remember reading that now that you remind me) certainly make a compelling case to make the change. Thanks again all for the helpful responses.

Honestly, I have no idea how common it is. There are a very few providers who put restrictions in their ads; there are a larger number who explicitly state that they don't discriminate based on race. As RG said, all providers have the same right as anyone else to reject anyone they don't want to get it on with, no matter how good or bad their reasons may be. But clients decide who to see or not see for all sorts of reasons, and there are probably quite a lot of us who find overt racism to be rather distasteful...

If you don't agree with those in power, you go to a re-education camp until you see the error of your ways. This is not a new idea, although I don't recall it happening in Canada before.

Hi guys, I TOFTT last week end with Lilly from Moncton/Riverveiw. After a few tentalizing messages form Lilly, we set up an early app. for Saturday morning. The morning after, no show and no answer to my texts. Finally, she answered back a couple of hours latter saying she was sorry and that she had overslept. She offered me to come to see her at her Grand parents's place! (First clue) Suposedly they were out west and she was taking care of the house. When I got to the house, I notice a lot of shoes at the entrance! (second clue). She invited me in a small room in the basement of the house. It was full of dolls!!!! (Third clue) (WTF???) BTW, her pictures are definitly not new. She carry an extra 50 to 75 lbs over and above what she looks like on her pics!!! (forth clue) I then gave her the agreed rate and sat on the bed. She asked me if I wanted a massage and I said ok. I then proceed to take of my watch and shirt then she freaked out. She told me that she was with the police (???) and that I should leave imediatly or she would call them. She then said that she would call her boyfried. I asked for for my money back, but she refused. Not knowing if there was anybody else in the house, I was now feeling that that my security could be in jeodardy. So I left immediatly. She is a thief , a crook and a con artist! Be very carefull guys. See her add and pic below. http://newbrunswick.backpage.com/fr-ca/FemaleEscorts/love-5068711028new-pics-horni-girl-special-kisscuddle-full-sweet-deals-lilly-5068711028-23/1615660

Hi everyone I am writing this not only to recommend the young woman i met but also to clear up some confusion on this forum. There have been lots of positive things written about Tiffany but it became apparent even before i visited her today that the recommendations are directed at two different girls. The young lady with the pretty tattoo on her tummy has only been in the industry for a few months and as such anything directed at Tiffany 2012 is not in reference to her. The irony however is that I had not contacted the new girl on BP because i new she was very young and i wanted to avoid any chance of pursuing my fantasies at the risk the expense of another person. I in no way mean that younger girls are not happily working as an sp i just wanted to be certain that those i am with are doing it partly for the fun of it. However after reading so many glowing recommendations and decided to contact her and i am very glad i did. While The young lady i met was barely over 20 she had the maturity of someone much older ( a level that many of my guy friends will never achieve.) I drove from Fredericton to Moncton to see her at 8am and as she said she would she texted me at 6am to make sure i was still coming. In many ways i am reluctant to post a recommendation on her because i know it will increase the number of good choices she already has and will probably mean that i wont get an 1.5 next time for my hour booking. Needless to say she does not look at the time when you arrive and in our case we finished when we had all the fun i could handle with out getting my hands on some sort of energy drink. Tiffany 2014 is worthy of the high praise that others have given Tiffany 2012 and i owe it to the gentlemen of this forum to highly recommend her

Hi I've been a member of cerb for over two years now. and have read the posts of these women almost every day and have the opportunity to meet a small selected few of the women in Ottawa. It is with heartfelt thanks to my appreciation to the kind caring women of Cerb that post and contribute their opinions and advice to us men. I admire these women as they offer their services without discrimination to men of all sizes, races, disabilities. All the ask is that you are a gentleman and are clean. They offer companionship, sometimes friendship to lonely men, widowers and virgins. For a short time the man can feel human, or needed again. Some men are shy and lonely. This gives them the chance to be with a woman that he can only dream about, the girl from school that was out of reach. Or they can fulfill a fantasy. Sometimes they can keep a marriage going by providing the sex that is needed in a sexless marriage. I just wanted to show my appreciation for the services and companionship that they offer. And I am sure that other members of Cerb feel the same way. If so let's here from other Cerbies :) Yours Someguy

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We all have our own personal.preferences and have every right to those In some instances maybe it is.racism and what really can.you do...its alive and out there It.could.be many reasons why.a provider will ask your race Could be because she prefers a certain race Could be because.she.dates only a.certain race and doesnt want to.run.into someone she may know on a personal level Only the lady knows why I.personally like to see all gentlemen race is not an issue BUT age is for me I prefer not to date.younger than 25.because I feel I.connect better with.older gents and I.enjoy our time together and also I have a son that is 20 and it wouldn't feel right to me regardless if I am.being paid for my time

Just so I am clear, forcing a woman to sleep with someone she doesn't want to sleep with (her being racist or not is irrelevant here) is not a violation of human rights, but saying no to someone is? I can just imagine how that conversation would go.... Hobbyists: "Hi, I'd like to file a complaint against _______ for not allowing me to pay her for sexual services" Human Rights Advocacy : "(laughing) ... Unfortunately sir, offering to pay her is not a suitable reason for anyone to force her into sleeping with you. It is her basic human right to deny you her body. (more laughing) Have a nice day Sir" *click* I have every right to say no to anyone for ANY reason, even if those reasons are racist! (Please note: I am not racist, I do not have race requirements, but these comments have ignited a fire inside me) I think you need to educate yourself more on human rights my dear. Sure, racism sucks. But what sucks even worse is ANYONE being forced into SEXUAL ACTS with just anyone and everyone because you feel it's violating the buyer's rights when a seller is selective. NO. Truly, if you are turned away for ANY reason (racism or others), well that's just too F-ing bad! Move onto another provider, lord knows we aren't exactly a rare commodity. But you want me to give myself, my all, my body and soul to a person who perhaps is revolting to me? Wow. What you suggest is that I do not have any human rights, only you do... Maybe I should complain to Costco for only letting their club members buy merchandise. Maybe they'll pay me for my complaint. They are after all violating my human rights, according to you. And what are these rules of business that EVERYONE needs to follow exactly? Guess I should also complain about every shopping mall in North America who has a "NO shoes, No shirt - NO SERVICE!" rule as well. I mean, frigg, the hotdog stand guy sells me food without my wearing shoes, why doesn't every "business" ??? Ugh. You have to accept that the particular merchandise we sell cannot simply be offered to anyone with a wallet. Many different industries have standards, rules & laws specific to that industry, why should this be any different? Your opinion on this matter disgusts me. That is all. The apology, sure. "I'm sorry but some of your details are on my "black list" and I cannot see you" There, apology. BUT PAYING MONEY TO THE PERSON WHO COMPLAINED? SERIOUSLY?!?! * raised eyebrow *

I had mentioned on an earlier post one fantasy gets to be completed and a new one arrives, I had the supreme pleasure of my first duo this past summer, since late September the fantasy that developed in my mind was to have the pleasure of having the company of two ladies for the night, the two ladies whom I was thinking of when that fantasy came to mind was Miss Gabriella Laurence and Miss Carley Chase. I had the awesome pleasure of having the company of each of these two ladies a couple of times this fall and in conversation I found out they had contacted each other in the past with the possibility of giving some lucky man the pleasure of being with them both at the same time. During the time I was giving Gabby a tour of PEI I brought the subject up, with her respect of my judgement due to the fact the ladies had never met she said it was ok to approach Carley and try to set it up, Carley accepted my judgement also. The maiden voyage of Gabby and Carley being a duo happened this week I am very priviliged to say I was the lucky man and I am indeed a very lucky man. The title of this review "A Night of Euphoria" describes this occasion so well, the definition of Euphoria is a condition which a person experiences intense feelings,well being, elation, happiness, excitement and joy, that pretty well describes how the Magician felt this week and from the ladies faces them also. Our evening started out at a nice restaurant where we could sort of break the ice in Gabby and Carley getting to know other, both ladies looking stunning, dressed in a sexy casual way, in a very short time my smile was from ear to ear in watching these two very sexy ladies from across the table chatting, laughing together, in a very short time both ladies told me I had terrific judgement, permanent grin on my face now. There is definitely many forms of foreplay when you are with someone and for sure this was one. If you have had the pleasure of meeting either Gabby and Carley or if you are as lucky as me have met them both imagine seeing them both at the same time you are definitely in a happy place. We then went to the Condo I had rented where the evening and night was everything I could ever ask or dream of, as you know the success of having a duo is both ladies enjoying each other as much as I enjoy the two ladies, again it was simply amazing how Gabby and Carley were relaxed and into each other on this their first time together. The Euphoria of the evening and the night started when both ladies appeared dressed in very sexy lingerie and in my favorite colours, not sure if any words can describe how I felt seeing them both looking so damn hot and sexy. As usual for the bedroom activities of the night and morning all I can say is both ladies love to please both man and woman and both ladies loved to be pleased by a man and woman, my new titles for both are Gabriella "The Queen of Sexual Sensuality" and Carley "The Princess of Sexual Desire", their new titles fit them so well, I am still so pleased how well they connected with each other, the three of us all got 110 per cent in the chemistry that flowed in the bedroom along with the moans of pleasure, fireworks and waterworks, a Night of Euphoria indeed. Ladies it was an evening, night and definitely a morning to remember for the rest of my life, excellent way to complete what I call an amazing 2014, I know for sure it will be my pleasure and privilege to be able to see either of you in 2015, hopefully both of you, both of you are very special ladies, very special indeed. In closing fellow hobbiests here on Cerb as I mentioned in my earlier reviews of both Gabby and Carley if you get the chance to see either lady go for it,you will not be disappointed in anyway, if you have the good luck of seeing them together you can thank me later. Magician :)

I can sense my opinion will be unpopular. What if a restaurant says "we won't serve Black people"? What if a bank says "we don't accept Aboriginal clients"? What if a movie theatre says "we don't sell tickets to Jews"? In none of those cases would we say "that's just personal preference, they can deal with who they want". In fact we have specifically passed laws called Human Rights Act which prohibit anyone providing a service from claiming to provide those services based on a personal preference where it relates to race, or colour, or ethnic origin, and so on. I'm perfectly willing to agree that the services a "service provider" in this business provides are different from most, but not so different that this general rule does not apply. And sure, there are exceptions - a church is entitled to insist that its priest be Catholic, its ok to have both boys and girls soccer teams - but I don't see why there would be an exception here. It's true, a person who is simply choosing sexual partners is absolutely free to indulge whatever private opinions they might have. If CERB were a dating site, there'd be no issue whatsoever. But when someone has entered into a business, rather than personally seeking pleasure, well, then yes, different rules apply - the ones that apply to anyone engaged in business. It is extraordinarily unlikely anyone would ever make a Human Rights Act complaint about this, but that doesn't mean it isn't wrong. I have seen ads which say things like "I don't want any drama, so no Arabs or Indians". Personally I cross those SPs off my list, though I'm neither Arab nor Indian, just as I would refuse to frequent any other business which discriminates unlawfully.

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I love redheads but like everyone else if there is an attraction then I'm not picky at all.

Because sex for money will become illegal A lady's website needs to post her rates. Nothing illegal about paid companionship, being an escort and so on But being a prostitute, sex provider, hooker etc, those are ladies advertising sexual services for money. That will be illegal And gentlemen seeking to buy sexual services are going to be breaking the law Not only are ladies' websites going to need to be changed, emails/texts/phone calls to and from companions are going to have to be changed, no mention AT ALL of sex for money At least that's my take on it RG

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When I first began as an escort there was none of this menu b.s. Clients were actually interested in the mystique surrounding the SP. Services were still important but was secondary. Most did their research on review boards and perhaps a few exchanges between a member who had seen the SP and the person wanting to meet her. Most SPs had websites and invested in themselves where marketing and advertising was concerned. This is where things have changed. As someone else mentioned many have become complacent with the fact that al they have to do is look up a classified ad where in a lot of cases it is all laid out. In the early days hobbyists took more time and invested in seeing an SP including paying higher fees. There were no singular acts or get in and get out service where services are heavily focused on. This is where things have changed. It is no longer about companionship for many. In a lot of respects and coming from a seasoned SP, without a menu SPs who are were used to having one are going to have to focus more on selling companionship and not so much the services they offer. We as SPs are literally going to be selling ourselves and not through the types of services we offer. Expect to invest more in website and advertising. They are going to have to explain to potential clients why they should visit them. It's time to get creative. If an SP can do this, they will be able to adapt to the various changes this industry will go through. Posted via Mobile Device

<p><p>I agree with Meaghan. It just means no longer calling ladies on the fly especially the unknown ones. While there has always been a risk of meeting SPs that aren't well known, do your research ad they used to do in the early days of review boards. If you feel leery of someone advertising that you don't know and can't get any legitimate Intel on them through reviews, other members then steer clear. New ladies have to start somewhere at some point but it will be up to them to prove they are reputable, not shady or law enforcement. The best way to know a client or SP isn't law enforcement is to engage in a hug or kiss upon arrival or ask them to get more comfortable by taking off their clothes. LE will NEVER engage in any these things. Always place the donation on the table and then proceed. Money is not exchanging hands and do not discuss anything sexual until you are both naked and physical contact has been made. This is how I used to do things as a new SP and still do.</p>

There has been a lot of discussion about this. Plain and simple, no advertising of sexual services. Hobbyists will not be able to ask for sexual services. Time and companionship only. We advertise as escorts, massage attendants, dancers, bathing suit models etc. Get your atf contact info saved safely. Ask if she is available to see you at such and such time. No discussion of services. Stay away from new kids on the block unless she has been verified by others. Have fun, the sky is not falling.

I've offered and loved doing this service in the past.... Maybe a nice bottle of vino to get to know each other, lots of touching, teasing and kissing! I now have the pleasure of being with CMJ where you can even do duo's and couple massage. OH the possibilities!

We should accept that this bill will be enacted and enforced as written. What we need to do now is discuss how to deal with it and preserve our ability to do what ever we want in a safe consensual manner. If done properly our response could even improve our encounters and eliminate the sludge that is occasionally experienced by both SP's and buyers. For clarity I don't support the new bill but I also don't think it will end this industry. Here are some initial thoughts: Advertising: We need to carefully examine the new law and change the way we communicate so as not to overtly contravene the law as written. There is no law against dating services of which there are many. If no price is established at this point then there is no selling involved. Encounters: Once in private we should discuss services and payment only after each party is comfortable of the situation. For established SP's and repeat encounters this will not be too difficult. For new encounters this places more emphasis on demonstrating each party are not law enforcement. CERB site: needs to change to not make it easy for law enforcement to place charges. Intent to commit an offence can be established by law enforcement by engaging on this site in a way that clearly establishes the intent to buy or sell services. We need a discussion forum on this NOW! before the bill is enacted to ensure we get our ducks in order.

Some heavy wool socks for winter :-( And a new pair of jeans...with a smaller waist size, my diet/exercise regime is working RG

I would like to attend. I will be getting a drive, and can accommodate another person who may be coming from Orleans area.

I looked at the pics and I smell fake... be careful.