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They are one in the same and should be avoided at all costs http://www.cowboysdiary.info/wordpress/?p=9760 When in doubt, check the diary out !

Ottawa police say 11 women will be deported after a human trafficking investigation into commercial massage parlours and body rub facilities. Police say they investigated 20 locations from April 27 to 29 resulting in 11 bylaw charges for improper licensing. Canada Border Services Agency also detained 11 women for immigration-related matters who appeared for admissibility and detention hearings last week. Removal orders were then issued for each woman. All 11 were found to be working without a valid work permit, police said. No criminal charges were laid but police said the border services investigation continues, which could spark more charges. Ottawa police also said additional investigations were launched after the three-day bust. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ions-1.3067083

1- "Can you describe yourself I forgot what you look like" Do you really think I will see someone who has no idea what I look like!? I have no interest seeing someone who is too lazy to over internet to look who I am. Seriously? 2- stupid questions.. "Does your pictures are real?" Do you really think that if someone is using fake pictures she will tell you? I have plenty of recommendation, etc.. Please do your homeworks

A flight for an impromptu escape for a couple days :)

timewasters and serial 'sexters' Do you really think I am just sitting around with absolutely nothing to do but text all day and night long with you? Or the callers that you can tell are jerking themselves off to the sound of your voice and your pics while they ask you stupid question after stupid question over and over again. I have better things to do with my time. I don't waste yours, please don't waste mine.

Ingredients to make two cakes and cupcakes for my niece's class cake walk and bake sale. I'm thinking the kiddies will love these (minus the Happy Birthday/Names): The little ghouls love Monster High and the boys love Minecraft!!

I see so many posts on forums like this that talk about the first words from a potential client. It absolutely boggles my mind how many guys just won't take a minute to introduce themselves properly. They go right into negotiations or asking extremely explicit questions about services without so much as a hello. Then have the nerve to get angry when you ladies show offense to this behavior. Every time I read this thread, there are more stories of this. I think this has been touched on many times too but guys that don't read. You ladies take the time to post an ad here and elsewhere, pay for said ad, carefully explain what you will or won't discuss as well as specific instructions on contact procedures (i.e. "first time clients please use booking form on my website"), yet guys shoot you a text with, "yo baby, you available?" or "How much?" It is enough to make a persons head explode like the opening scene in "Scanners". Ladies, God luv ya for putting up with guys whose brains are somewhat south of the equator on a good day.

Tapatalk was, in my opinion, just a much easier (and quicker) way to access forums. Always out performed the browser for me by a wide margin. And most forums aren't very optimized (if at all) for mobile browsing. For a user who followed various forums, it was even easier. That said, I stopped using them quite a while back. I didn't like the way they did business and they earned a place on my "Do not trust" list. Some forum admins refused to install as well due to security concerns. Anywho...they did make it easier to browse forums from mobile in my mind and many love the app.

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Here's another recent thread about it.

This looks like a scare tactic site with links to an adult dating site and a reference site.

Got this tonight for the third time this week from tire kicker WOTs ( waste of timers) who say they are "shopping around" for the last year might I add with a weekly text asking every question under the sun.... or wait, the sun, the moon, the stars, the universe and the galaxy until the next millennium and they can't even get your GD name right! You call them on it in the past that you've spoken before by phone and texting history to prove it and they pretend they've never spoken to you at all. Of course they didn't. I will refrain from naming the exact names he quoted to protect the innocent who haven't yet dealt with wots like this. Him: "Hi "Jane", can I ask that the best rate is 100 hh cause are you busy all weekend? I no mothers day and all." Me: Wrong number dude! Him: ??Sorry "Jill" Me: I'm not Jane or Jill. Him: My fault Jane had your name as Jill. Him: Who is this if I may ask? Me: Unless you want a big hairy guy, wrong number!! You can't even take a look at my ad to even address me by my name and negotiate right from the get go? Rudeness!!! This is the response these cheap wots will get! I guess my vacation of attracting decent clients has come to an end. lol

Great win for the habs, finally getting a few goals ;) Got me by surprise lol but good to see.

Finally we beat Tampa, hopefully getting six goals will give the Habs lots of confidence on Saturday night in Montreal, all we can do now is take one game at a time. It was good to see the whole team win a game not just Mr Price.

Yes so true! Honestly the only person i would like to be in competition with is myself to become better mentally emotionally and physically than the person I was yesterday I have no desire to be like anyone else...we all as women have our on unique qualities and should embrace that It's sad to say but in this industry some women are very competitive and that's where the hostility comes from You may like me for my boobs but may like another lady for her behind...and you all have that right to spend time with the lady you choose....could be you ,connect more with one on a personal intimate level and with another on a sexual level

Just a quick comment, not directed at you Danielle, but mentioned because you pointed it out. There may be competition in this business. But ladies really aren't in competition with other ladies. There is someone for everyone as they say and the lady you are may attract some men, and other men may be attracted to another type of woman. And some men, due to the polyamorous nature of this lifestyle may be attracted to women in general. So all ladies just need to present themselves in a positive professional way. That way in part, they present themselves in a positive light and will continue to attract the clients that they normally would. I guess my point, awkwardly made LOL is any lady trash talking another lady isn't making herself more attractive to clients. All she does is make herself, at least to me, unattractive and someone not to see. So Danielle, keep handling yourself the way you are. The other lady is likely losing potential clients by her actions. Hope that rambling makes sense But in a lighter vein, but it is often true...and kind of applies here RG

We had a pretty good presence in the march, with a fair number of red umbrellas and signs. There are photos on our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/WinnipegWG?fref=ts I think this may have been Winnipeg's first public demonstration for sex workers' rights, so I'm quite pleased.

Its true in any industry when you become successful you get haters. Jealousy is an awful thing and it exists quite bad in this business. As it has been said, best to ignore it, however from experience, I suggest you screen shot any and all stuff said against you, save all emails and if you need help tracking an IP, I'm an email away. As well I can put you in touch with a wonderful police officer who may be able to help you with this situation if it escalates. These people need to be dealt with, but the best way is to smile and focus on your business - god knows that drives them more crazy when they can't get to you. xoxo Emily

There's a new blonde at PM: Chasta. She's really hot, especially in the CR. Also there yesterday afternoon (Wednesday): Candy, Delicious, Chloe, Anika, Loanna, Ashley, and a few others.

NEW RULES ADDED Bumping Threads and Recommendations What is bumping? Please do not BUMP threads. Bumming is when you post a comment on a thread to BUMP it back to the top of the "New Threads" or the first page of that thread index. BUMPING RECOMMENDATIONS I have been ignoring thank you's posted on peoples recommendations where the thank you is placed within 24 hours of the post. Because this is too hard to police and explain to people I must ask that NO thank you's are posted on recommendations (As some people are abusing this and others see people post thank you's that were done within 24 hours and think it is ok to do). If you wish to thank someone for posting a recommendation that you started or that is about you please PM them a thank you (OR) you can post a thank you on the persons guestbook (Profile) but please DO NOT advertise on peoples guestbooks. BUMPING THREADS If you post something and do not get a reply DO NOT bump the thread to get it more attention or re-post it. Use the search feature as you will probably find the info you are looking for already covered. If it has been 6 months and no one replied you can post a NEW thread asking the same info (If no one replies again consider it a dead subject that no one has interest in discussing on the site. BUMPING ADVERTISEMENTS Q: Sometimes I bump my ads so I don't have to start a new thread. Is this okay? A: That is fine as long as you are following the "Only one advertisement post per 24 hour period" rule. Bumping a previous ad with updated information would be considered a advertisement post for that day. That is a good question so I will add it to the RULE. Guys are NOT permitted to ask the ladies to contact them! Guys. You can ask your fellow cerb members for advise such as "Does anyone know any 7 foot tall women in moncton?" but you can not post "Any ladies 7 feet tall in the moncton area please contact me" (This is considered advertising for ladies to contact you - and is not only lazy it is unacceptable). You can not post stuff like .... "I will be in town for tonight only can any lady who is available tonight email or pm me" (NOT ACCEPTABLE) "If anyone offers BBBJ in this city can you PM me to set up an appointment" (NOT ACCEPTABLE) etc.. etc.. Please DO NOT hijack threads! Hijack threads means you post a completely OFF TOPIC post and take control of the conversation that someone else started. Instead open a NEW thread and NEW TOPIC yourself. This includes posting on someone's ADVERTISING thread. If you are a competitor and you place a comment on someone's advertising thread that would be considered HIJACKING a thread.... and if you advertised yourself on someone else's advertising thread I am sure you will not make any friends. Q: I've commented on occasion on creative ads. I've never seen this as hijacking or bumping is it? A: It's more BUMPING then a Hijacking unless you are including an ADVERTISEMENT of your own (This includes your Signature). ** At this time that has not been a problem. Unless I get valid complaints about such things I will continue to allow that. If you were doing this to "Help" your friend out by bumping her ad to the top others will complain. Posting short comments to boost your post count Posting short comments such as "I didn't know that" and "wow, that is great" and "thanks, I like that" on threads when you are in the moderation period will clearly tip me off as to what your intentions are! Yes, this happens a lot and I catch them! I know these people are posting like this in order to get out of the moderation period (Either to look more creditable or maybe to post recommendations or some other slanderous thing - trying to get it to slip by) This does get noticed by me! I will then put these people on to my WATCH list as I suspect as soon as the moderation period is over they will post a SHILL recommendations or something bad on the site (Slanderous) Just want you all to know I watch for this and if you do this I will PULL your recommendation or posts that you make once out of the moderation period and I will remove the account (but also search the IP to see if I can pinpoint who is doing this) WHY NEW RULES?? I think we are all adults and can distinguish between right and wrong and fair and unfair. I only make rules when people abuse the site and when people bring valid complaints to me.

Who's the hottest and funnest MA out there that permits mutual touch all over..?

Well this is not today's highlight.... But Tomorrow I am joining a fine fine gent for luch at Lemongrass restaurant on the beautiful harbor in Saint John! So excited to eat at my favorite place in STJ with my Favorite gent! Yahoooo

Took my son to get his red&black Jordan's he has been wanting! Best feeling ever to see him smile today xo

You could always try CMJ where the fee is all inclusive.

The door fee plus any other possible additional fees could probably be discussed privately with your choice of MA prior to meeting.

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you should look at some profiles to determine if they meet YOUR hotness scale and speak to them about your request.

Saw Sara's photo album here on CERB. Her stunning beauty immediately blew me away. Her pictures were just too perfect to be true. I had to meet the real woman. Sara was really easy to contact by txt messaging. It took some convincing to get her to accept to come to my place. I picked her up from her apartment down town. She has the cutest pretty little girl face that I have seen in a long time. She is bubbly, funny and a pure ball of happiness to be around with. Her big delighted eyes and her girly giggle just cheer you up and make you laugh. At home, We were standing around the kitchen counter, drinking wine and snacking on munchies for quite some time. We eventually moved to the couch in the den. We listened to music, talked, held hands, got intimate and became real horny. We moved to the bedroom. This young woman is stunning ! She has a firm, toned, smooth, athletic body that is an absolute pleasure to admire. She is pure silk to caress and erotically firm to hold. Her oral skills are amazing and her moves in a cowgirl ride can easily explode the most controlled man. Sex was too enjoyable to finish. We kept changing positions. She has an everlasting stamina. She did not fatigue no matter what. At the end, playing totally submissive brought on an incredible explosion. She was in no rush whatsoever. She relaxed in bed and socialized with me in the den until her ride arrived. A big hug and she left with a big smile and a promise to see each other soon. That is one sexy and bubbly baby doll that I would love to see again.

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Check cowboy's diary. She's on it (the most resent post).

Chinese Food..

Yes I can honestly say from all this negativity I have actually gained a few New friends so I have to say some positive has come out of it ...men do not like jealous women! It is not a good look If I feel some way towards someone I just will not bother with them and move past it...I would have entertained it and acted out last year but I am seriously trying to be on a different path in my life plus its draining and those types of people do not deserve my energy

Hello everyone , In June, various members of the Canadian Alliance for Sex Work Law Reform, lawyers (from PIVOT and the HIV/AIDS Legal Network), and academics (all supportive of sex workers' rights) will get together to discuss the new laws related to sex work. The goal is to share information about how the new laws are impacting sex workers, and what our strategy is moving forward. My understanding is that they will discuss strategy related to a new legal challenge... and what that could possible look like. If you have time, can you answer these questions? Feel free to PM me if that's easier (with your response) or e-mail POWER at [email protected] Here are the questions: 1. What are some of the safety issues you face when doing sex work? What is your relationship with police? 2. Have the police been hassling you and if so, do you know why? 3. Have the police been hassling your clients and if so, do you know why? 4. Do you go to the police if you need help? Why or why not? 5. Where do you work and is that the place you would like to work or would you prefer to work somewhere else? 6. Do you advertise and have there been changes in terms of how you advertise? 7. Do you work with others, have there been changes in terms of how you work with others? 8. What can you do with third parties (receptionists, security, etc) in your place of work? 9. Have you changed your safety mechanisms since the news laws have come into effect? If so, how? Thanks for any time you put into this - you can answer some or all of the questions - it's as you see fit!

Why oh why do some keep asking for details in this day and age? The laws have changed. Asking in a public way things like who gives more then a happy ending, is not going to go over well. For those that don't think things through, sometimes others see and read this site so they can gather Intel. Stop asking publicly WHO gives extras. It's not cool or helpful for those who are in this industry. PLEASE.

what size are your boobs? Do you have a pic? What to see a pic of my dick? How much for an hour? Do you have a tub? Do you have a shower? Do you do such and such? Are you shaved? Can I ....? .?????? All questions from different dudes this morning. All by text. Hmmm I knew there was a reason I didn't list my number before. Lol You found my number. You texted me. My prices and info are on my website. Read my reviews and recommendations then contact me.

What are your rates? No Hi how are you nothing .... Just what are your rates Common courtesy is free to use just saying Tired of the one word texts and no introductions Not a very good first impression in my books

No replies from the ladies but I suppose it's possible this has been answered before in another thread. I'd do a search if I were you. From my experience, the ladies you will meet are, quite simply, women. Sometimes they have Os, sometimes they don't. It depends on their mood, their attraction to you, your skill as a lover and so on. I've had many encounters where both sides have had 'release' but I've had just as many where it was more one sided. I think that the normal rules apply. Take your time, foreplay, read her body language and look for clues to what feels good. When in doubt, ask. I almost always ask ladies about favorite positions and what works best for them. Again, they're human. One gets off doggy style, another likes to grind in cowgirl. Some can get there via oral, some not so much. And some simply enjoy it without ever hitting the O at all but that doesn't mean she didn't have a good time. Treat a woman like a woman and things will happen as they do.

Love This one...

Guys that text and I reply politely once or twice . Then I ask them to go to my website or call me if I have time . Then... Nothing . Do they have any idea how many messages we get in a day ?

When a gentlemen calls we have a conversation book a time and about 20 minutes later I receive a call that he has to cancel something has come up....I'm pretty good with my intuition and i just smell b.s ....I honestly feel at times some men shop around for rates book with a lady and still shop around for cheaper then cancels the confirmed appointment Trust me I realize that life happens and I do respect that but at times I honestly feel other wise and its very frustrating especially when you get ready for the appointment or have to postpone or put off another possible booking Please shop around check rates and services offered then call to book!

I honestly think bad apples are not on Cerb or not here for a very long time. Most ladies/agencies have built excellent reputations here. AND, thanks to Cowboy Kenney, many bad apples are weeded out on those other sites. We're very lucky to have him here. I love Cerb ladies and agencies.

Just text him back a link to one of the phone suppliers (Telus, Bell, Rogers) sounds like he needs a new phone LOL

Someone will weigh in with first hand info, but I have not really heard of or seen any feedback on those 2 you mention. I haven't used an agency, but would likely lean towards"Mirage" if I did...dont know why...just ads and feedback . Pink Kitty and Explore Her seem to be well covered as well

Back in 1995 I was in Montreal on business. After a particularly draining day, I decided to indulge in a little company. Now remember, this was before internet, so the "search" consisted of looking at the ads in the local newspapers. One ad caught my eye. Blonde quebecoise, 21yrs old, blue eyes. Sounded good. I called the number and arranged for a one-hour date. "Kim" arrives at my hotel room. Yup, she was gorgeous, but something was adrift. She walks in, calls the agency and the date begins. She undresses and lays on the bed. I was massaging her back when it hit me.. she fell asleep!! Wow, someone else had a worse day than me! Then the snoring started. Wonderful. I tried to shake her a bit to wake her up, but she was sound asleep. A bit of panic set in. I didn't know what to do. I am still dressed, so I decide to sit on the chair and have a smoke. Kim was on her stomach, naked and sound asleep, in a pose that reminded me of Jill Masterson covered in gold in the James Bond movie "Goldfinger". After about an hour, a woman calls the hotel room, says she is calling for Kim. I explained the situation and the woman on the phone yells out "merde!". Another 15-20 minutes go by and there's a knock on my door. The person identifies herself as the woman from the agency. She enters and proceeds to wake up Kim. Kim is groggy but starts to put her clothes on. The other woman checks Kim's purse and makes sure she is dressed ok. The woman returns my envelope and apologizes. Both women left my room a few moments later. Thus ended my first experience. It would be another two years before I even thought of entertaining another encounter. CM

I am pretty sure that is just a troll website/marketing gimmick to get you to sign up. If you go to the home page for that webaite they have ads of a loottt of sps, Pretty much half of backpage. And some of the ads are from sps who are very well reviewed here and are long time members as well. I would say, nothing to worry about.

Pretty sure that site just scrapes backpage ads and puts them on there.

That was short lived, they put my account on review cause we do over 400 emails a day so right now it has stopped again and I am discussing this with the company.

Your very right, the ending of ANY relationship is never easy, however in this lifestyle if boundaries are not crossed and lines not blurred, the split should be simple and easy. It is a break up of a business relationship or transaction NOT a marriage and should not be confused with one. This is a business relationship or business transaction, lines only get blurred when one refuses to respect what the other person in the relationship is saying. At the end of the day, the friendship you think may be there is blurred by money. And unless your spending mutually agreed upon time off the clock, the friendship one thinks they had really does not exist. Call it whatever you want, but one does not pay someone to be there friend. The only people who ever feel resentment when a relationship ends are the ones who refused to respect the rules and chose to treat it as a "I paid for it so I own it" situation. Fact of the matter is NO ONE owns anyone and money was for time and companionship, not the persons physical being. If a lady cut you off and does not want anything to do with you anymore, one needs to have a good hard look at themselves and think about their behaviour, and how they have handled things for it to turn out this way. As a client you are free to end the business relationship anytime, and we say nothing....yet when the situation is reversed why is it we get so much grief? I think its time to man up and take responsibility for ones actions

What is the most intriguing part of a woman/man? It doesn't have to be just sexual, just in general. Is it her mind, laugh, smile......ect! In my opinion it is confidence. Not stuck up, just happy with your self.

Very well said Roamingguy. YMMV has to be included in everything because we are all individuals. What one person views in one way, another my view completely different. Not only that but even two people together can interact different depending on the day and the activity. This is part of what makes being human special. Extraordinary experiences that are never the same twice (even if they kinda are). To me, being with someone is about connection, pleasure, joy and fun. There are certain factors such as hygiene, nail care and respect that lend themselves in major ways to the experience you can have with someone. After that it's also about the person and how you relate. You may have said you do a certain thing but then realize that an adjustment is needed due to things like height, weight, cock size etc. You may expect one thign but get another. that doesn't necessarily make it negative or bad, just different and sometimes in a great way. The best encounters for me are the ones where someone wants to be with me and is interested in exploring with me. They don't have a lot of expectations besides enjoying their time and things flow naturally. I love when you can be lustful and passionate and also playful and joyous. Sex is bloody enjoyable...whoop it up! Additional Comments: I'm looking forward to Savannah's answer (if she wishes) on your question Chuck. For me, I couldn't be in this industry without genuine caring, desire and want. Everyone has something wonderful and beautiful about them and seeing that in every person is an amazing thing. Discovering what makes someone beautiful, amazing and sexy is intoxicating to me and I love when I'm allowed to fully express that.