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I asked kingBong why he sticks around on cerb if he does not like the way it is. He asked to close this thread because it was "Hijacked" but I don't see that. He just does not like the info he received. It seams our friend king bong here does not like the way cerb is run and with all the other discussion forum options I don't understand why anyone would contribute 50 posts when they don't like the site. Either shape up or move on to another site as the council here and the mods here will not allow comments like these to continue. You asked a question and you got some REALLY good feedback. Sorry you did not like it but the reality of it is... these ladies should ask for FULL legal name, they should VERIFY it and they should do everything they can to help protect themselves (and each other).

If you find a reputable you'd like to see but are worried about privacy and being screened, talk to her about it. She may not want ID, she may not want a reference or a full name... she might have 1 to 4 other methods up her sleeve and if you're polite and open about it I'm sure most would talk to you about it and offer you a couple options of screening they use. If you are not comfortable with the methods she's chosen, thank her for her time, politely decline making a booking and move on. I think all clients should be prepared to give a little towards the comfort and security of the escort they're trying to see. We want to give you a good time, we don't want to spend all our free time screening and wondering about you-- but we have to. We have to guard ourselves against the bad people so we can continue to be happy, healthy ladies, around and in good spirits to have tons of fun with the great gents out there.

So let me ask you, who should assume the extra cost for the "buddy system"? Should it be added to our donation or should the SP absorb the fee because you are not willing to provide personal information? Unless I am spending time with a gentleman and a lady friend for a menage a trois, I do not want anybody else in my suite. I enjoy privacy and intimacy when I spend time with a gentleman!

Unfortunately, other methods of screening which require the SP not take any personal information only protects the SP until she meets you. I don't really want to list out all the methods of screening and safety as I feel it may take away from someone else's trying to be safe. If I tell you all the ways other may keep themselves safe, I could be giving you ideas of ways to circumvent those... and I hate hearing about these girls who fell victim to yet another sicko they have yet to catch. I just wished that someone would have taken information of people like The LI Ripper, or the CL Killer, or Picton, or Joel Rifkin... you know, BEFORE body upon body started piling up. 'Extreme' screening method might not have stopped people like this, but it could have had them caught long before they were able to kill that many people.

hey folks Just a quick note to all who happen to know me, some more intimately that others!!! Was diagnosed this week with bone cancer in the jaw, where they thought it was just a bad bone graft after trying to install a post for a bridge. Now on the list at the General for this new "laser knife", just not sure when (welcome to Ontario Health care), then probably some chemo or radiation. So I may be out of commission soon for a while, but will try and keep connected. If I have not reached out to you ladies, not because I did not want to!!! So in the meantime, play safe, play hard and of course.......lots of licks!!

I know this topic has come up several times but I feel it must be addressed again. First of all, I'm a relatively new member here and came on this board with no reviews. My first step was to get to know the board, talk to people, make new friends and establish myself. It's been a gradual process and am very happy I took these steps as I now consider many on here to be friends and the mutual respect has been extraordinary. I'm not new to this business and did have the advantage of having a few references when I did join the board. However, I am very grateful to the Gents that remembered me and gave me a new start on here. It means a great deal to me and I've worked hard to establish my presence. At the same time, it was my pleasure to reassure members here that I am reputable and take the steps necessary to establish a good rapport before a meet. Now on to to the opposite end of the spectrum for the new Gentleman members. Please take the time to establish yourself on here as well. I don't think any ladies or going to see you if you cannot provide a nice introduction as a new member to be welcomed to this board. When we get a message from someone with no history or reference, we ABSOLUTELY screen. Do you expect us to just say "Oh yes, I have no clue who you are, where you have been, and you can come on over right away." This ties into yesterdays thread I know but it feels like it never ends. We are constantly bombarded with "one liners" and no mannerisms. Please refer to the "getting started" thread if communication is challenging for you. We all need to play safe and I doubt you're going to get anywhere here if you do not take the necessary steps to have a great experience on this board as well as with the ladies. Respect goes very far in this world and an absolute necessity on here as well. If not, you will not get far!

I think this thread has provided a lot of people with enough screening info regarding some people's personalities and perspectives to make an informed decision of who they will and will not see. The screening process is not always about the information but the compliance of clients. If they will not be respectful or follow the rules or instructions in the booking process, how likely are they to do that once in the bedroom (regardless of what the booking/screening process is.) This thread is like a war - aren't we supposed to be getting together to have some good sexy, sensual fun? With so much anger and disrespectful comments it's hard to believe that people's intent is about hooking up with each other. Find an SP who you are comfortable with in all ways (screening, booking, location, personality, sexuality) and go with it.

Have you considered pretending it's your husband he's cheating with, and not you? Just to really rock her world?

Sorry, but this whole "two way Street" argument seems to only be taken as far as you would like it to, to prove your point. Gentlemen: most of you are amazing so please ignore this as it is just to prove my point. Frankly, how do I not know that maybe YOU are mentally unstable and maybe wont take the info you know about me to the extreme? Say you visit me and during the session I dont provide something that you are very insistant on, such as bbbj. Fine. So you leave, unhappy, and lose your shit and flip! You now have my location, which can obviously reveal my REAL FULL name, my website info, my contact info, etc. Who is to say that just because I didn't Blow You without a condom that you wont reveal all my info and slander my name and put me at risk. Because of your UNSTABLE MIND I have just lost MY LIVELYHOOD, all my security of my incall. and I'm put at Extreme risk. You could easily STEAL FROM ME when you visit me(or after), BLACKMAIL ME with the threat of exposing my job, etc. Nice TWO WAY STREET huh? NEVER use mental health as a reason as a way to take it to an extreme and insult someone. It's ugly and uncalled for, as you can now see. We are in the same spot you are. If you can't trust others because of YOUR EXTREME PARANOIA and NARCISSISM, than why in the world would I trust you and invite you into my home? What makes you so important that I would pretty much destroy my whole career just to SPITE you?! It seems to me that you've lost site of the fact that to you, this is a hobby. It provides you with a luxury that you desire. To me, this is my livelyhood, my job. Not something I do for entertainment.

When you start a thread, be prepared ANYONE with an opinion to reply!

I only ask for a clients full name, if and when I go on an out call. I feel that is necessary for 2 reasons, the first reason is for my safety as I am stepping into an unknown territory , and the second reason is to confirm they are in fact there, so I do not waste my time or money. For in calls, what I like to do, is check out their posts....as this is a good way to kinda sorta get a feel for their personality. For instance, if a man comes off as cocky, rude or disrespectful, and feels no way about expressing himself in such a way...this usually means he will be a lousy client.

Since this "OTHER" board is somewhere you obviously would rather be, why don't you stick with it and quit nit picking about how "THIS" board is run. You asked questions, and received replies - since they were not what you wanted to hear and not everyone jumped on your side your getting bitter. Let it all go, how we choose to screen, protect ourselves and stay safe is our business and it works, if you do not like it don't contact us. There are plenty of fish in the sea that use a methods that would work for you. It is kind of creepy that you ask what methods we use to stay safe? Kind of sounds like you have an ulterior motive with the thread as you are comfortable seeing a lady who has someone else present, but your not comfortable giving out your name for the fact that the lady could be "Mentally Unstable" - I believe is how you previously put it. On a positive note, yes the thread topics were in good nature, but I do not see why you got all upset when the ladies stood up for their beliefs. You mention that you have not been able to state your opinions, but alas you have in more than one negative post after another.

Some of the replies in this thread just goes to show you the mentality that **some** men have toward the women in the profession. Your only digging yourself a hole by being rude and disrespectful! Once a reputable lady finds out who you are, and I mean your alias on CERB, she will read your post history and I'd say your chances with getting an appointment now are probably slim to none. If you dont wish to hear OUR opinions, make a board for just men! You dont seem to respect our opinions anyways. And yes we do talk alot about the safety of the SP's! Like Megan said before, WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD OF A CLIENT BEING KILLED BY AN SP??? Additional Comments: Whether its a recommendation or a review board, if the lady has been around for awhile, she will have a reputation, be it good or bad. Cerb is not skewed entirely towards the ladies! It's for EVERYONE, it's just a more positive enviroment! If you enjoy bashing towards the ladies and even towards the guys, PM me, Ill give you the website to another board.

I think you have been missing the point that has been expressed so many times in this thread, but I will express it one more time: *Ladies working in this industry face violence at an exponential rate in comparison to Gents who hobby.* How do you know I'm not some sicko? Well, do your research! A reputable lady who has reviews and has been around for awhile with no complaints is your best bet! Wow, talk about stigma and prejudice! If you think a lady may have severe mental problems, don't book with her. It is my experience that the quality providers with the strictest screening also have the best head on their shoulders. Then don't book with the ladies who request it, and stop complaining about those of us who are proactive about our safety. Again, it's your choice, but don't expect us to be heartbroken or complain.

Well said. I think if an SP asks for the legal full name she should be ready to give hers. It is a tust question and it works both ways. Who tells me that the SP is not some sicko herself that can do exactly what Chavez described? I understand that some SPs want to be safe, but I just don't agree about the means. I personally feel that asking for my full legal name is invading my privacy, and I don't feel comfortable sharing, especially with a touring SP that is out of town, and that I have never met before. I also know and some of you do too that one SP has serious mental problems. Do not get me wrong I sympathize with people who have mental problems a lot and this is not about that. But who says that this SP (with a severe paranoia problem) won't go to the police saying that I hit her or raped her or whatever is in her mind? I know this one SP with serious mental problems, but there are probably more...(by the way don't ask me for the name of this SP because I will not give it to you). For me the risks just outweight the benefits. If we ever become like the States where date deck is becoming a pandemic, then I will just have to quit hobbying altogether!

For those of you using the "it's a two way street," "clients are at risk too" type excuses, blah blah blah. Give me a break. The risk that you will victimize me is much much greater than the risk that I might rip you off. There is a much greater risk that you'll use my name to out me, harass me, stalk me, etc than there is that I will use it to ruin your life. Let's get real. And for those of you using the "oh, but what if she publishes my name on a bad date list" excuse: There are two sides to every story and you probably did something to deserve it. Straight up. It's much more likely that you were a dickhead than it is that she was trying to be vindictive. I hate these conversations. My safety is more important than your precious name. /end rant

We may ask for your full name,number etc..but there are other ways around it..PROVIDE REFERENCES. We just want everyone to be safe..yourself included. I'm sure YOU wouldn't just call any ol number of a provider without checking her out first. I'm in NYC right now and have no problem getting the guys full name and or references..usually both. I was supposed to go to Long Island too but with all the bodies being found of presumed prostitutes i won't take a chance even if i did get all the necessary info. You have to understand that not everyone gets us...some still think of us as druggies or drunks working for pimps without a mind of our own. We need to feel safe and secure in our chosen career because that's exactly what it is our choice of career. Would you work for someone you didn't know at all? Emma

It's a matter of safety for both you and the companion. If she is asking, anyone else she has met or screened has had to provide the details. You are entering my personal space, whether a hotel or condo and I want to know who you are. Due to all the crap being pulled, screening process are getting a bit more strict with some ladies, and I being one of them, am sorry if you do not like it, but there is no way I will visit with the details. Personal safety is way more important to me than any amount of money.

I didn't post this in the election thread because I feel like this should stand on its own and don't want it to be lost in the midst of a-gajillion posts. http://shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/ xoxo Sky

Not sure how to approach this one, could just PM the Mod, but others may have other opinions or suggestions which would be useful. I'd like to see some of the groups I belong to more active. I wonder if it's possible to send out a PM alert to the members of that group when there is a new message entered in the group. As far I can see the only way you know what's happening is by checking periodically.

oh you naughty vixen............you really do know how to talk dirty to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now I am all horny.........

Well I get my name split and then varied; - Win - Winni - Cub - Cubbie or Cubby Hmm, certainly a trend. I don't have a real preference. But the Winni and Cubbie variations seem to sound better coming from the ladies.

Yea....a voice of reason!! Be good to each other, life is way too short!! Peace MG

I've never understood the concept that "she stole my boyfriend/husband/man." And I've observed over and over that many women consider other women to be threats to their relationships. As the old saying goes, it takes two to tango. A man can't be "stolen," for whatever reason he strays. His straying either speaks to the stability of the relationship or his character.

I am kind of laughing to myself as I read this. I probably have the dumbest CERB name on here! So if you get a PM from me, I always use my real name. I like that a LOT better! Wonder if the Mod allows a change on name here somehow? Surely I could think of something better.

Damn him...he got me flustered and made me use my one dumb blond moment allowed during the day!!! ctpqv

Interesting site, but from me just a single very personal comment. My life is complicated enough right now, or, better yet, in the "glass half full," optimistic way of looking at things, my life is very simplified right now. I have discovered CERB, discovered a community of sincere people, discovered a safe place, discovered an area where one knows ahead of time expectations from all parties without surprises, discovered a place where friends are being made, and most of all discovered a place filled with amazing and caring and respectful people, both men and women alike. For me, as long as I choose to enjoy it, this will be my area to explore, to seek,to continue to learn and to have new experiences. To his his or her own, but here I stay.

We are a small community within a small city. Both Hobbiests and Sp's reputations/demeanor etc, simply by the demographics, ensure that those data-bits get around. If people on ether side of the fence behave inappropriately we all know it will be discussed somewhere. We are still small enough to be a mostly positive community, but we have to respect (because of that very reason), that all of us are individuals who practice different methods in this business, offer different services, have incall locations with other girls, ensure a Hobbiests preferred comfort level of privacy, respect what each other are; and mostly remember, we are all human beings and not a bunch of body parts. That goes both ways for Hobbiest and SP.

being fairly new here I just wanted to say to all the ladies here on CERB that I really admire all of you for standing up for your right to screen people how you see fit. It makes me more comfortable knowing you take these sort of safety issues seriously. I grew up in a country farm setting and was raised to treat everybody with respect and courtesy but unfortunately there are some out there who aren't as kind so please be safe!

I personally love the sexy, sluty office worker look;) Hair in bun, glasses, office skirt just a bit shorter than it should be, stockings, and a button up blouse...with one too many buttons undone, hehehe

I would simply tell them they must have a wrong number, hang up the phone and that would be it. Of course, if I was speaking to the man again I would inform him of what had happened.

One advantage of the SAQ.com website is that it will list all Outaouais stores' current stock at once. For the Graham's six grapes half bottle, at $13, the SAQ by the casino 'as of now' has 16 bottles. The LCBO retails it for $11.45 but currently appears to be out of it in Ottawa-downtown, Ottawa-Nepean or Ottawa-Orleans... BTW, when searching on SAQ, look for PORTO (as in Portolover lol), not just PORT.

I don't recall whether I was specifically asked for my name, but I ended up providing it anyway, because it shows up in my email, and it would have showed up on her call display when I returned a call from my home number, which I provided. Either way, I have no problem with providing my name to an SP who asks. Considering the position I'm asking to put her in, I'll do anything I can to ensure she feels safe and comfortable meeting with me. I have no intention of doing anything with her that would make her feel the need to use my name in a way to hurt me somehow. Besides, I have no wife to find out about my new hobby, I can't imagine my boss would care, and frankly, I'm not doing anything I'd be embarrassed about if it were found out. Some pretty classy ladies around here who I'll be proud to associate with as I immerse myself in this hobby. If the roles were reversed, and I were the SP, I'd probably be pretty paranoid. I'd probably have half a dozen pistols hidden in the room.

I pretty much have fun in all of the mentionned clubs, just be funny and patient and women are going to be with you at 100%%%..lol.. don`t forget to buy a drink.... Rum

would you have been equally comfortable if it was her male friend ?

Mm I had a great first date the other day, we had some great mixed drinks (perks of dating a bartender) then he made me a delicious supper and we watched the original 3 Star Wars on the couch with his great dane. It was so good because socially we have known of eachother for 2 years and watching movies and talking together just gave us that chance to see who we actually were outside of public view. Posted via Mobile Device

The decision of whether to give a full and real name if asked is entirely up to the individual. If it is requested, and for your own personal reasons you choose not to do so, then so be it and accept it. I know that I am fortunate in that I do not have any reason whereby I need to protect my identity from anyone in regards to this, SP's, friends or family. I would prefer that my friends and family not know, but if they find out then I am totally comfortable that they would understand. That in itself is a rather sad statement isn't it, that this activity because of social "norms," is best left unstated. We have a long way to go don't we, and I mean both ladies and men with that. Regardless I wish to reiterate something written earlier. Whatever is required by a SP that will alleviate their concern for their own personal safety is valid. If their requirement does not meet your comfort level, then there are alternatives I am sure, and one should respect their wishes and efforts that they make to ensure their own personal safety. IT is THEIR space, THEIR identity and THEIR body and from my perspective THEY have a great deal more to lose than I should they not take basic common sense precautions. It has been said, and I can see it in post after post, in forum after forum, that the vast majority of men here are discreet, respectful, and people that any of us would be proud to call a friend. Let's not lose that in the discussion. Again, ladies, be careful and do what you need to do to be secure.

Wow ... People are getting really cranky. To the guys: don't argue with the ladies over this ... They have every right to make this a requirement, and I understand why having heard many stories from the ladies that make me shiver or at least make me look at the floor in disbelief that a guy could be that mean. As I said, I would never complain about a lady insisting on this; I would simply, and respectfully, choose not to see her. To the ladies: don't argue with the guys that want to be discrete and not share that information. And I would never ask a lady for their personal information. And don't denigrate guys who have a legitimate concern about privacy. Comparing privacy (guys) versus safety (gals) is an apples to oranges comparison and neither can claim a higher moral ground BUT both need to be equally, and completely, respected.

We're invading your privacy asking for your name, but you do not see that we are taking you into our very private homes and incall locations? Honestly, no one gives a shit who you are, we just want the peace of mind of knowing that if you rape us, rob us, harass us, stalk us, or otherwise hurt us, we have some way of dealing with the situation. And while I'm at it, please quit spreading such vicious BS--Sex workers are not all mentally ill and if you think one of us is, then don't book with her, but don't tar us all with the same brush. If the risks are so great to you, then why are you hobbying in the first place? There is some serious narcissism going on here, and as I said above, no one really gives a shit who you are.

Check the "device manager" and make sure nothing is expanded. You should see a list of all the hardware categorized but none of the TREE'S should be open. If the tree is open the device that is not functioning right will be displayed. It should look like this. and not this...

What do you want, a certificate from our doctor? Do you question the sanity of contractors who come into your home to do work? Of the person who delivers your paper? The person who cuts your hair? It's offensive to question our sanity just because of our chosen occupation. You're perpetuating the stigma that sex workers are mentally ill. If you really think there is a good chance that we are manipulative, vindictive, mentally ill women, then why are you interested in spending your time and money on us?

It has been said already in this thread but I think it is central to the issue. In my opinion NB is a small niche market for an upscale SP. I love NB it has some awesome qualities that keep me here but a sophisticated, cosmopolitan, attitude towards sex trade workers and women in general is not something I find in abundance here. So in my opinion it is no surprise that the traveling SP trips are short. Part of the problem may come from how the local sex workers in NB operate. The agencies in particular offer this pizza style service that was talked about. The independents often follow the trend in my experience. This leaves us with a market of hobbyist that are unaccustomed or ignorant of the difference in the service offered by an upscale SP. Maybe these men go on to book appointments with a traveling SP using the same cavalier attitude they would when calling a local agency. This will obviously cause problems since there is a huge difference in the services that are being offered and the etiquette involved. I'm not trying to defend rude behavior but just trying to present a possible cause for it. Educating these people seems like the best solution. Pointing them to this site or others like it so they can become accustomed with what is expected. But like Miss Rushton pointed out some people are not going to 'get it'. Anyone who has ever worked in the service industry can attest to having met that customer that just makes you want to scream. These are the people who will not read the noobie section on cerb or the FAQ section on the SP's website. They are the real issue because how can you inform someone who remains willfully ignorant. What can be done about these people I don't know. I think it is a problem shared through out the service industry in general. I do think that creating a strong hobbyist community here in NB is a good start. To be inclusive instead of exclusive. If there is a great group of people at it's core then others will want to be part of it. At this point they can be educated....hopefully Don't give up hope on NB we're not all jerks

On first glance, without really analyzing it, yes, the fear that your home or work life could be affected seems to be a valid reason to not provide your name But when you think it through, the ladies are doing this for their livelihood. They make money by being SP's. The fear that the lady will "out" you, why would a lady do that. She would soon lose clients, and consequently money If blackmail, she'd have to pick a rich guy, and most of us aren't rich, just have a little disposable income on hand And if your gut feeling is the lady you are seeing isn't trustworthy enough to know your name...don't see her. Just the same as the ladies won't see a guy if their gut feeling tells them not to Some more thoughts RG

I personally don't ask for real names, but thought I might throw in my thoughts anyways.. :) You're absolutely right, asking for a real name is not going to keep you safe... but I think when used properly with other screening methods and 'gut instinct', it's probably a very effective tool. I've said it once and I'll say it again and again... Not all screening methods are directly used. For example; I ask you for a reference, you protest.. Red flag. I ask you for a reference and you politely explain your lack of... Gold star. While some ladies might want to verify your name, others may simply use it to see if you're going to protest, make something up or sneakily try to avoid the question of a name... Screening methods are best when combined with other methods as well as instinct.

No one is saying your safety is less important. What people are trying to say is you do take FAR less risk. You, as a client, are never taking as much risk as your escort. And my life is far more important than your name. You might get ripped off, be put on a black list... But I may be chopped up into little pieces and dumped into a ditch, not only losing my life, but deeply hurting those who are close to me. It's not nice and even I don't like thinking about it, but it's a reality. To this day there are serial killers out there, uncaught, taking their anger out on prostitutes of all types. (street, escort, ect.) When a client says and acts like he is taking more risk than I am, it's completely thoughtless.

The answer is an absolute yes and I always have done so. I am truthfully astounded that apparently some of the women do not require it nor require some sort of vouching be done by their peers. This is a two way street. I expect to meet in a safe atmosphere, and have my personal information kept private, and it is equally important for the SP to feel the same. One only has to look occassionally at the news to see that too many women in this industry and in general are treated not only with disrespect but with violations of their person. So ladies, be careful, and be secure when you arrange an encounter.

Not a problem for me.....If it puts your S.P at ease your experience should be that much more enjoyable....Tks

One thing that I really want to clarify, I don't believe in writing recos out of guilt because the lady asked you to, and if the reco was undeserved.. Not at all... However.. In the interest in keeping a the board current as well as keeping the lady's name in demand in order to keep her business fruitful then it is really something that should be a priority. My view is this, Cerb is a great resource for clients to find what they are looking for for. And its a great place for ladies to advertize and meet clients. And it is absolutely free to use this resource for the guys. So I think it is the VERY least they can do is (if deserved of course) write a reco if they were happy. I just read a post today that bugged me about a lady we represent.. The post wrote how he "selfishly kept her to himself". How retarded is that? How many ladies could and would survive in the industry if guys didnt pay it forward and let other ppl know? Its not selfish, its extremely short sighted. This board is such a safe place for ppl to express how they feel, it is completely anonymous.. So why not? Really? The other boards tend to have a much more toxic environment, and have a much lower level of activity and participation. But with CERB this isnt the case.. Share your experiences and EVERYONE benefits! :)

i pay my accountant by the hour - i pay my lawyer by the hour -i pay my house cleaner by the hour- all professionals -why would your services be any different- except more enjoyable

Problem is most of the agencies do use real photos but when that lady is not available they send substitutes without notifing the guy (So they do not loose the call). If you do not do this then you should post daily here on cerb with photos of the ladies and schedules and show the guys that a stand up agency exists in Barrie. I say prove them all wrong and show them what they are looking for exists.