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This is mainly for any newbies on CERB who have never heard of Cowboy Kenny's diary before. My advice is always the same, if it sounds to good to be true...it probably is! I was reading on this site and elsewhere, that people have been burned here in Ottawa lately. My advice is to daily check CK's diary, he does very good work for all of us and if you want to protect yourself then read it please! I hate hearing stories of things going badly wrong, especially when it could have easily been avoided. It only takes a couple of minutes to scroll through the daily updates, but it is very much worth it! http://www.cowboysdiary.info/

Change your fantasy ... You're still special and now you're having a torrid affair!! Hot!! Porthos

I'm shuttering with disgust and revulsion. I thought it was bad enough when they made it microwaveable and started messing with the noodle shapes!!

The SPs I enjoy seeing are individuals with rich and varied life experiences. They are smart, funny, sexy women who bring to the experience I share with them so much more than their body. They are mothers, partners, entrepreneurs, and so much more. If all they had in their life was exchanging sex for cash they'd be extremely uninteresting. Of course, I'm often unaware of all that is going on in their lives. The longer I'm in the hobby, however, the less I try to put "my fantasy and preconceptions" onto the situation, and come to the encounter enjoying the reality of it. As I've done that I find I've tended to see fewer ladies, but each experience has been far richer. At the end of the day, there are very few things more wonderful than life itself. Embrace it and be glad these wonderful ladies have enough love and sensuality to share their's with us.

This is an aspect that I do have difficulty to deal with with clients... For myself, I know for a fact I am a "better" SP when I am in a relationship. I keep my hours, I take calls, I am more "straight". I use to be a serial monogamous dater, until I embrace polyamory. Also having some "me" sex once in a while with a partner that know everything about me, compare to someone that doesn't know me well...big difference a the end of the month. It's our private life. I am not sure how it is suppose to affect clients during our time together. For 30 min, 2 hours or an overnight...I am not thinking of my SO but of the person I am with. One thing that I do find a little bit hypocritical of some gents...:( Pretty much everyone know by now that I am bisexual...I am currently dating two women, and most people seem to be fine with that...because they are women, it still keep the fantasy alive it seem...but if it was a man....it make them feel uncomfortable Question for the gents-for those that it bother to see an SP that has an SO, does it make a difference if she is is dating a man or woman?

It really shouldn't make any difference. I think you have to take a reality check and realize that you are dealing with an SP as a commercial transaction. Sure some of the ladies provide a wonderfully personal service, but when all is said and done, and you leave they have a life of their own. It would be unfair to expect them to forgo having an SO because they are in this line of work.

Armdale Pizza on St. Margaret's Bay Road. Best donairs in the world. Friends to the west its worth visiting Halifax just to get a donair. I was a bad girl and had one last night. :icon_smile:

Simply feeling you lost something you dearly cherished...and not knowing if you can find it again.

Like literally two hours ago, and it was great! As of this morning, I was a 26 year old virgin. I never felt ashamed or unaccomplished being a virgin, I had reached this point as a choice. But I was not confident with intimacy, most if not all girls I've met have been pretty sexual or have a sexual past which always intimidated me (I never saw them lower, but felt a bit in awe). I avoided relationships because I was worried about the physical intimacy part, I was going to fall flat on my face. And I created this mind block. I noticed a few threads on this forum about guys who are virgins looking for an SP, but there was no mention if they went through with it, and if they did, how they felt about it. So I thought I'd share for anyone who are in the same shoes I once was. In a nutshell, I loved the experience, and I have no regrets. I got in touch with Peachy a week ago, and explained that I was a virgin, and that was something I wanted to change. She was incredibly thoughtful, and put me at ease with asking her to take me to the other side so to speak. I was nervous, actually, I was anxious for her to come. I booked 3 hours, and I asked her to stay an hour longer once she was here (I was having a great time and didn't want to rush it). So my reasons for doing what I did. 1) I'm more confident with safety when it comes to the women here then the general public. If anyone knows about safety, these ladies do. This was my number one priority always (even before I came up with this idea) 2) I wanted a positive non-judgemental environment (at least in my mind). I didn't want to think and over think everything I did, and with her, I was more then comfortable. I was able to explore, try out stuff that I wouldn't have done with maybe a girl I was dating. 3) I was confident in asking her how I could be better. And I took everything she said constructively, and it was a lot better then I imagined! 4) Confidence! I met this girl a couple of months ago that seemed to be very interested. Back then, the old me kept things between us friendly but non-sexual. I think given the situation now, I'd act much differently. My confidence in this department took a massive beating the last couple of years for reasons too long and boring to share here. I feel as if one evening took all of that self doubt away. Downsides? I don't feel as if there were any. I don't feel any regret, or remorse or anything of that sort. I was hoping when I asked Peachy was that she be someone awesome (I've read some stories here about people having soso dates). Peachy was AMAZING in that she was so understanding about my fears, and newness. I bring this up because I found her through going through pages and pages of reviews. There are some awesome women here, but I found one with very complimentary reviews, and it worked for me. Which I guess leads on to my next part. Would I recommend a virgin meet an SP? To each their own. I wrote down a list of reasons why this would be a good idea vs a list of why this was bad. My bad side of the list had some religious objections, but then the good side had religious support for getting help any way possible (my confidence was shot). There are some that say that this experience should be with someone special. And I think that applies for some people for sure, but I treated this as a learning/therapeutic visit more then anything else. The rate I was going, I was not going to be able to meet that someone special ever. Recommendations: 1) Take your time, read reviews, talk to who you are interested in 2) Take your time, don't book just 1 hour. For the first two hours, we took it slow, talked a lot, and made it more intimate. 3) Figure out your reasons. I was brand new at this, and I think if this is your first time, trying to go into this to fulfil a fantasy might be putting too much pressure on you and her. Just explore the sensation, explore your body (I discovered things about my body I was pleasantly surprised about). 4) Tell her you're a virgin! And that's when you first get in touch with her, not when you meet. I can't think of anything else. This being a recommendation board, this is mine :)

Someone asked me the other day where to order good pizza from in Orleans, and I thought we haven't had a thread about good places to order from/pick-up or dine in (in a casual setting), so I thought I'd start one. Since I'm in Ottawa, here are my favourite placess. Pizza: House of Pizza, Convent Glen Mall, Orleans Louie's Pizza, Vanier (Pick-up/dine-in only - no delivery) Colonnade Pizza (Metcalfe/Gilmour is orig. location - have not tried any other lcoations) Bellavista Pizza (Alta Vista/Bank) KS Pizza (Pick-up/dine-in only - no delivery -South Keys Shopping mall across parking lot from Walmart) Shawarma: Cedar Valley, Orleans (their fatouch salad is to die for) Alissa (St. Laurent at Industrial) Burgers: Five Guys (Trainyards and coming soon to Innes Rd. Orleans) The Works (St. Laurent/Hemlock) Sandwiches Made to Order: DiRienzo's Confectionary (Beech/Champagne St.) Chicken Wings: House of Pizza, Orleans Royal Oak (Dine-in only, half price Mon. nites) 24 Hour Places to Chow Down: The Elgin Street Diner Eddy's Fast Lunch, Montreal Road near Vanier Parkway Smoke Meat: Chenoy's in Gatineau What are some of your places?

OH MY GOD IT'S MAY! This is my birthday month and I'm super excited. We do actually have a beach in Yellowknife and summer temperatures reach a sizzling 17 degrees C. Sometimes even 20. My favourite swimsuit is a Playboy bikini because I'm Playboy-obsessed. It's super skimpy- so not my usual style. Unfortunately, it died last year after too much swimming in chlorine. Also, when I dived into the pool the bottoms slid down and I mooned everybody. Hmm, perhaps more coverage this year. What's your favourite swimsuit? Anyone else have swimsuit horror stories? Happy May! Amelia

One of the benefits of seeing a lady in this lifestyle is the no strings aspect of the SP/Client relationship. There should be no expectation or concern about the lady's relationship status, just as she has no, or should have no, concern about your relationship status. As for being special to her, you are special to her...for the time you two spend together. Don't read more into it than that, though. Once the encounter is over, you move on to your life, and she to hers. If you had a good time with her, and she is comfortable with you, you can become a regular client. But complicating this lifestyle with concerns about a lady's relationship status, and I guess, by the same token, a client's relationship status, well the only people who should partake in this lifestyle are single men and women. This is supposed to be an indulgence, uncomplicated, mutually beneficial, no strings attached fun. I wouldn't complicate it with concerns over relationships My two cents RG

Yes! But the President's Choice version of white macaroni and cheese is much, much better. YUM!

OH MY GOODNESS i keep reading this thread and it makes me even more excited than the last time i read it!!! I am so pumped for halifax's FIRST cerb social... i know it will be amazing because amazing people are hosting it and all the AMAZING LOVELY cerb ladies and gents will be attending!!! I can not wait to meet old friends and make SOOO many more new one!!! It is getting closer and closer and days go by and the anticipation for it to arrive it quite unbearable in my opinion!! That is all i have to rant about I can not WAIT for this... Have an amazing week and weekend EVERYONE and see you all soon!!!!! xoxoxo Emily

Mmmmmm .... This will require some thought! On the one hand, bacon is good with everything. On the other hand, bacon mixed into KD is a pretty radical departure from orthodoxy! I like my KD this way

It's just not KD if it isn't glowing a pure, nuclear orange! The orange is what makes it healthy.

I have made a social group named "I'm Sexy & I Know It". The group is meant to be some sort of self-esteem booster for all of the people on Cerb. I have found motivational photos , quotes , etc & would really love any and everyone to help me & join the self-esteem team. I made this group because as a child , I was the "ugly duckling" and always got tore down and picked on for my whole childhood life. But unlike most bullies in life , I developed into a beautiful, intelligent, attractive woman & am completly proud and content with who I am today. I wish growing up I had someone to comfort me and tell me I am beautiful and all the things anyone would love to hear. I mean , of course , everyone has relatives but for some strange reason everything means more when it comes from a complete stranger , funny eh? I also know self-esteem issues arent just childhood problems , thats for damn sure. So this group is for anyone who needs a boost in self-esteem , or those of you who feel compelled to join the group to "donate" your inspiration and motivation to the group. Or anyone who had any suggestions etc , feel free to reply or just find my group in SG page. :) YOUR BEAUTIFUL ;) kisses , Kiara Kinkz *

A SP with a SO should not affect your desire to visit them as a client. Remember, SP's and MA's have lives outside of work just like you do. I understand it may have ruined the fantasy, but the vast majority of hobbyiests have SO's too and that does not stop SP's and MA's from seeing them. So why should it ruin it for you?

I have a SO in my life, and it does not interfer with my level of service at all! If anything it allows me to be more attentive, and inspires me to what it is that you are wanting/needing. With love in my life, I feel warmer, happier and more creative than when single. When being single for too long, I seem to get a bit bitter, or jaded towards intimacy and passion. the big difference for me is...What I do with you as my client, is very different than with my SO, as with a client I am " selling" fantasy, a persona, therapeutic touch.....with my SO I am not selling anything! This is not to say I am "acting", as I naturally am a flirty, warm, friendly, nurturing type personality...so I do remain as my true self...but it is marketing and is business too!

The kind that I like best are what some people refer to as Pokies. This is usually where a girl is wearing a thin shirt and no bra. It's sexy but it still leaves a little something to the imagination. Add in some background and a great angle and you have one damn fine picture.

Sorry to horn in on this one, there is one place GREAT to eat in Freddy, Snooty Fox! Fabulous Irish pub, great beers, great whiskeys and fantastic Irish food. Relatively inexpensive and amazing atmosphere, it was a regular place for me when I lived there and a place i always took friends! Luna Rogue for indian cuisine, great pricing and fab atmosphere too

Very interesting stories. Let get more

I have always enjoyed the story of Erin and I look forward to all the chapters yet to unfold. Know you're special. See you soon. R

Erin, you are a woman I admire greatly. I have so much respect for you I would stand behind you always. And having met but just once, I am certain this cub will cross paths with you again. XO. Cub Posted via Mobile Device

Lots of xo's your way! We will keep in touch for sure :)

A couple of other St. john's spots. classic East cafe on Duckworth street is really good. My favourite pub in St. john's, if not anywhere, is Yellowbelly, a micro-brewery with fabulous beer. Be forewarned, they ONLY serve their beer, but you won't be disappointed. I highly recommend the Fighting Irish Red and the St. john's stout. Their food is great as well. The Greek burger, a mix of mince pork and lamb, with feta cheese and tzatziki sauce is incredible. The lobster hash on their weekend brunch is indescribable, as are their eggs Benedict on crab cakes. O.k. ... I have to go eat now!!! Porthos

Ahhh wow, what a family we have here in cyber space!!! I feel like I have a sister who needs support, love and all things possitive! You know what you need to do, so go do it with strength and support! You will be fine....I know it!

It appears they are dwindeling away also!

SO TRUE! I his diary when I think it's to good to pass up.

Yes , am a repeat offender ! and she can cuff me anytime to the bed........ I had another great time with her :D . Amazing lady . Please do treat her kindly and in return you will be given a amazing time with her . Please do yourself a favor and roll all those saved up pennies up before there gone , cash them in and see this great girl !

I just like Lee Richards. He's got a great sense of humour and enough patience to put up with the rest of the Fat Bastard BBM group.

A related sort of annoyance: I've been known to tell Jehovah Witnesses that I already have a religion. They, of course, obligingly ask what it is. I reply that I'm a Druid, and invite them to our next sacrifice. The look on their face as I close the door is worth the occasional visit from the constabulary!!

I usually don't receive a lot of gifts and that's fine but if you are going to give a gift to the SP, please think with sensibility and etiquette related to the SP/hobbying world. Some people try to be humourous and it usually blows up in their face. Even though gifts aren't expected or required yet always appreciated, just go with what you know. The more mainstream, the better. Think chocolate or gift card. I recently read an escort's blog on the internet ( I like reading escort blogs because they're interesting) and was horrified to find out that she was given this as a gift and the client made sure to throw in the smartass comment with the gift like "Don't say I didn't give you anything." Not only is it tacky but it's rude and disrespectful. Had someone given this to me, the appt would be over before it began. They would be tossed out on their ass in a New York minute baby. If you scroll down to the picture of the plush toy, it looks just like that... a plush toy. Now if you click on the link below, you will understand what I meant by the above comment from someone who thought they were being "cute" but in reality they were just an ass. Tacky, tacky, tacky imo. http://www.amazon.com/Giant-Microbes-Gm0150-Clap-Plush/dp/B000JZ08US/ref=sr_1_52?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1335933326&sr=1-52

When you need viagra or other sort of medication to get hard and you don't remember the name of your first love.

I have a thing for womens legs and have always enjoyed admiring them. Personally I don't have long legs but they were always strong and I can run long distances. I like to see the definition in a woman's legs including my own.lol. Stockings or no stockings, they are all sexy in one way or another.

I have many toy's but my two favorites are Alia by Lelo which is a water proof massager that can be alot of fun on your own or with a partner. Then there is the wii vibe 2 or 3. Which in my opinion the most versatile toy as it is great on its own (or combined with a dildo) and even better with a partner. If you have never tried it I encourage you too! You and whoever is lucky enough to use it with you will not regret it:icon_wink:

Old guy, I am even older than you . . . my advice is, there is no harm in what you're doing and having some fun as long as you don't spend all of your money on this girl and start buying her a ton of things outside of the SC.

I can say with all honesty, I've never had sex with a gentleman after a night out on the town that he paid for. I can walk out my front door any given night without a plan, find someone to buy me dinner, drinks with perhaps dancing or seeing a performance to follow but I don't go home with them. Ever. Strange for free never works out well for me, I prefer clear and concise expectation and outcomes... cat

There's really no contest on this one, as far as I'm concerned. I've never been a fan of spending huge amounts of money on over-priced sugary alcoholic stuff, or of hanging out in places where the music is too loud for any kind of conversation at all (yes, I was old before my time). And I've come to loathe that point where you end up thinking, "Stuff it, you'll do" and engaging in embarrassing drunken fumbling with someone who's almost certainly thinking the same about you. And then the hangovers, and regret, and wondering whether or not you should call... not that much fun, much of the time. By contrast, I can go and see a SP because I definitely *want* to (whether because of her posts, pics, recos, or something else entirely), and do so sober, and enjoy the experience. And not have a hangover. And know that the money went somewhere worthwhile, rather than just magically disappearing into the beer gremlin's bottomless pockets again.

You are right Berlin. I do voluntary work once in a while 3 or 4 times a year for a non lucrative organism for help to sex workers of all levels. I have seen and heard a lot. I talked to women on the street level who are harassed by police on a daily basis. It makes them in danger and it's not fear. That's one of the reason why they should legalize prostitution. I also talked to foreigner women who have been trafficked crying for help. Many of them said these men inflicted them physical abuse, physical pain, deception, coerce, fraud, humiliation and other forms of intimidation to try to obtain what they wanted. Since prostitution was not legal, some of them didn't talk to police. Once they knew the recurent behavior these foreigner men used on them to try to get what they wanted, they became stronger and the intimidation became ineffective after. If prostitution would be legalized, I assume there would be less expoitation of women, transgender, men and children.

Like gravity, karma is so basic we often don't even notice it. (Sakyong Mipham) People are entangled in the enjoyment of fine clothes, but gold and silver are only dust. They acquire beautiful horses and elephants, and ornate carriages of many kinds. They think of nothing else, and they forget all their relatives. They ignore their Creator; without the Name, they are impure. (Sri Guru Granth Sahib) The life I touch for good or ill will touch another life, and that in turn another, until who knows where the trembling stops or in what far place my touch will be felt. (Frederick Buechner) The person who is basically evil by nature will always be averse to virtuous deeds. He is always engaged in bad karma. (Sri Guru Granth Sahib) You can't put a price tag on love, but you can on all its accessories. You can't buy Love. Mother's love is peace. It need not be acquired, it need to be deserved. The successful revolutionary is a statesman, the unsuccessful one a criminal. ( Erich Fromm) When you judge another, you do not define them, you define yourself. A mind at peace, a mind centered and not focused on harming others, is stronger than any physical force in the universe. ( Wayne Dyer) .

I learn about it in the news one day. The places where they might accommodate travellers can most commonly be affected and perhaps some appartement building complex. The exterminator is usually called right away. For those who might have this problem, here are some other way and natural remedies to get rid of these tenacious intruders. It is said to be efficient and not that costly. Some people can report infested hotels and buildings in the internet in dedicated website. Rubbing Alcohol: While not a definite fix, spraying rubbing alcohol where bed bugs thrive may contain the problem by killing some on contact. Fruit and vegetable Insecticides: Some insecticides comprised of pyrethrins and canola oil are sometimes used by those who wish to lay down a home remedy that is safe for children and pets. Steam Treatments: It is not uncommon to see some pest control companies use steam treatments to deal with mattresses and other pieces of upholstered furniture. While very limited effectiveness is associated with this type of remedy, it shows great promise in treating items with less than ½ inch of penetration. At home, one may use small steam cleaners to care for their mattresses and other bedding selections. Dry Heat: Placing clothing, footwear, rugs, toys, stuffed animals, backpacks and other non-launderable items in the dryer for a certain length of time can conveniently remove bed bugs. When an average clothes dryer is run for five minutes at low, medium or high heat, they generate temperatures of about 140, 150 and 180 degrees (respectively). It is believed that when drying a bundle of infected clothes, high temperatures are able to kill bed bugs. It is suggested to run the dryer for more than 20 minutes. Hot Sun: Since temperatures over 113 degrees are said to kill bed bugs, it is suggested to wash and dry clothing and linens at high temperatures. When living in a hot desert climate, you may hang your bedding and clothes in the beaming sun to destroy lingering bed bugs. Bed bugs don't like sunshine light. They prefer darkness. Boric Acid: It is suggested to spread boric acid powder about the places where bed bugs choose to frequent, feed, and hide. This natural cure should never come in direct contact with a mattress or box spring. This remedy is often used to control the migration of bed bugs in a home. Clean your car: While you're treating the problem indoors, don't forget your car. Vacuum your car thoroughly and treat it with an herbal preparation or insecticide. You should treat your handbag and coats with an herbal spray to make them less attractive to bed bug freeloaders when you're out in public. Bed bugs aren't just hanging out in hotels. They're in restaurants, department store dressing rooms, movie theaters, busses and anywhere else people spend time. The more you can do to make yourself unattractive to them, the less likely it is that you'll inadvertently bring a few of these insect invaders home. Black Walnut: The National Park Service suggests that using the leaf teas consisting of black walnut provide an astringent effect, as well as serves as a decent insecticide against bed bugs. Herbal Approaches: There is a range of natural cures that people have used to treat their bed bug problem with varying degrees of success. A few suggestions is to try include spraying lavender, thyme, *tea tree, *neem (oil or infused leaf), henna powder or oil, rosemary and eucalyptus on bed linens, clothes and in other locations where people sleep in the house. Using these herbal sprays will help repel bed bugs. You can try lemon juice or apple vinegar as well. Add 20 drops of lavender essential oil to the final rinse when you wash your sheets, blankets and nightwear. Placing lavender flower buds in a sachet bag under your mattress and pillow will help too. You can also add lavender flower bud sachets to your luggage to discourage bed bugs when you travel.

An education does not make or break a person,if someone is testing you they are doing it out of their own insecurity,after all the only people that put others down are the ones that are lacking something within themselves. Their are many very smart,self made people that don't have an education,their are very educated assholes,their are those with high school that can talk they way around,up and down a person with a phd.Never feel inferior,you are you,special,one of a kind and deserving of as much respect as any.

You are right it is happening frequently in Quebec for some reasons I don't know why. There are probably some reasons out there. I understand the shame you have and some men might have for the actions of some other men, but it is up to every women to carefully choose their own circle. Usually there are lots of forerunner signs. Anything subtle. I suggest to anyone in similar situation to talk with friends, family and possibly cops. oldblueeyes don't feel so ashame there are a lot of nice men out there and you are probably one of them.

This is an interesting thread and am so pleased to see a logical perspective to this rare occurrence. I would like to add that as an Independent MA, my discretion would go out the window if a client voiced his concerns over what we discussed and what was expected in private correspondence at my door. If a cancellation fee were mentioned, even worse! No conversations of any sort in regards to a session take place at my door as I have neighbors. It hasn't happened yet and if it did, I would feel obliged to let my other Independent ladies know of the indiscretion. If you're basing your decision on looks, please don't ever put a lady that you developed trust with to invite you to her private location at risk by mentioning anything at her door. It's common sense!

Some guys told me they tell to wife or gf that they are going to take a beer at a bar or they work overtime. Some other told me they wait for the wife or gf to be asleep at night and sneak out the door to meet people or to see a sex provider. I know one guy he tells her he is going for a short trip out of town for few days. He leaves with a suitcase to go to his friend's place (when the friend is not there) or hotel still in the same city where he lives with her and he sees a friend or a provider many times for 2 or 3 days. I guess these are pretty good excuses or tricks.

Yes passionflower could help, but also Camomile, valerian, hops, kava or lemon balm in capsule or tea infusion. You can also look for a complete formula in capsule or tea mixed with many different herbs in that purpose at the health store. It is not recommended to take some of these herbs if you have liver, prostate issue or are taking drugs that affect the liver or prostate. Some men drink beer or alcool before they go to bed. It is said to be helpful. It's not recommended to combine herbs and alcool together.

Dave Elms was arrested recently on charges unrelated to his website, and this merited a mention in the front section of the New York Times on Tuesday, by Matt Richtel. When I started years ago, the woman who ran the agency asked me if if I?d heard of TER. I hadn?t. I kept to myself, did my own thing, and found my clients through other means. But while pseudo-documentaries still focus on the street walker, sex work moved online years ago, and sites like TER dominate. According to Quantcast, TER gets between 800,000 and one million unique visitors per month, and about 13 million hits per month. As time went on and I connected with other women, I started to hear the stories, about how agencies paid Elms to inflate the reviews of their lady-merchandise. I?d heard that some agencies were shut out by Elms while others were favored, among them NY Confidential, which was busted in 2004 to subsequently unleash the exceptionally sleazy and excessively vocal Jason Itzler upon our media outlets, a man who likes to call himself ?the king of all pimps,? because he?s a moron. It?s counterproductive to take bribes to alter reviews, given that the supposed intention of a site like TER is to give johns at least the illusion of objectivity, but then TER is no Zagat?s. Maybe integrity isn?t such a priority. Then I started to hear about the extortion. Women who had earned legitimately favorable reviews, and had grown dependent upon TER for their livelihood, were being contacted by Elms directly. He wanted money from them too. And he wanted money not to alter those reviews but to simply keep them up. When those escorts didn?t comply with his demands, Elms removed their reviews until they did comply. I?d heard that clients who posted legitimate reviews about these non-compliant escorts were having the reviews rejected or removed. When clients complained, they were banned from the site. I?d also heard that some women were told that they needed to meet with Elms directly if they wanted to keep their reviews up. And those who did meet with Elms were forced to perform sex acts, either by coercion or by threats of violence. The house in Hawthorne, Calif., where Mr. Elms lives is modest, with a well-kept yard. The only unusual signs are a surveillance camera over the porch and the late-model Mercedes sports car parked out front with the vanity license plate ?Will She.? And then I?d heard that women were being raped, blackmailed, and assaulted not just by Elms, but by other employees of his site as well. It was becoming clear to me that TER wasn?t a review site at all, but a means for Elms to freely extort money and sex acts. And if women resisted, there was always the threat of violence. [T]he police were called to a hotel where they found him with 3.8 grams of cocaine and a loaded semi-automatic weapon. A prostitute was there and said Mr. Elms had forced her to perform oral sex at gunpoint, but there was not enough evidence to press charges on that accusation. This is unacceptable. I?d venture Elms and Itzler suffer from the same feelings of sexual inadequacy, what with Itzler?s pimp-king sobriquet and Elms? coke-addled cock, a cock so ineffectual that it requires persistent coercion and the threat of death to become even remotely compelling. * It?s time these women have some form of real recourse. ___________________ Follow-up: Through a trackback, I found this post at a blog called Feminist Law Professors. Referring to the last paragraph from the NYTimes piece, regarding the woman who was forced to perform a sex act at gunpoint, she writes, And the reason there was ?not enough evidence to press charges,? it goes unsaid, is that the testimony of ?the prostitute? about her sexual assault is considered inadequate and unreliable, despite the incontrovertible presence of a gun. Filed under: pressing thoughts | 11 Comments 11 Responses to ?dave elms.? Feed for this Entry Trackback Address 1 Bobolink on Jun 19th, 2008 said: As you probably know, prostitution is legal in Canada albeit with a great many restrictions. One of the consequences of this legality is that women can file criminal charges against such persons and/or civil suits for damages. 2 badinfluencegirl on Jun 19th, 2008 said: bobo i thought it was legal to SELL sex but not legal to BUY it or something like that? 3 Bree on Jun 19th, 2008 said: Alas, we do not live in Canada. What can be done? As long as men and women continue to patronize and promote TER, either by paying for subscriptions, submitting reviews, or using it as a marketing tool, it will continue to wield the power that it does. As of this morning, the message boards over there had been pruned of the few mentions made of the NYT article. But the comments were telling. There was no outrage. There was no ?Gee, maybe we shouldn?t be lining the pockets of a freebasing rapist.?. Instead, there were statements dismissing the NYT?s journalistic mettle. There is an undeniably ugly side to this business, consisting of men who are misogynists to the core and don?t see prostitutes as human beings. I?m all in favor of decriminalization, but the seamier aspects of the business of prostitution are too often glossed over by activists. This troubles me greatly. 4 sandi on Jun 19th, 2008 said: I?d love to see it legalized to limit this kind of seclusion and victimization of women. This bothers me greatly that this can happen to women. 5 Bobolink on Jun 20th, 2008 said: Badinfluencegirl, I think you are confusing Canadian law with Swedish law where it is, illegal to be a john. Prostitutes operate openly, but discretely, in Canada which is sufficient to satisfy the ?communicating for the purposes of prostitution? section of our law. 6 Disconnected on Jun 20th, 2008 said: Don?t know about Canadian law, but Bobolink is correct ? in Sweden it?s illegal to buy but not to sell sexual services. However, before anyone draws conclusions or anything else, any sex work, including exotic dancing, is immensely stigmatized in Sweden. 7 chicagodiva on Jun 23rd, 2008 said: Dave Elms is getting everything he deserves. He developed a site for reveiwing the providers that started out cute and entertaining at first and turned into a huge opportunity to treat women like trash. I had several reviews up on TER and almost all of them where great. I had several clients tell me that they had submitted reviews to TER only to find out that they had been changed or totally erased. On many occassions I would post on the TER board to solicite new clients and would have negative post placed under it each and every time. One client tried to stick up for me and was banned and then TER accused us of self posting. I had no clue who this cleint was but negative rumors where spread that all the clients where comments from me. In addition all my reviews where removed from the site. I for one am sick of this site and the negative publicity it gives to providers for standing up for themselves. In addition, its even more sick and disgusting to know that this man has extorted sex from women to stay on the board. The other part is that women in the business need to stop letting guys like this gain so much power that we don?t control our own bodies and destinies. I feel men should not rely on this site for reviews and expectations for service, because many of the girls that have good reviews only have them because they have given away free sex to clients or the owners of TER. Please stop giving TER the power to control you business 8 Diana of Calgary on Jul 20th, 2008 said: Bobolink, the prostitution laws in Canada were once described as ?bizarre? by a judge. It is not illegal to be a prostitute, but it is difficult to engage in a commercial sex business without breaking one of the prostitution laws. The prohibitions include: 1) soliciting for the purpose of prostitution in a public place, 2) keeping a common bawdy-house (aka brothel), 3) living off the ?avails? of prostitution, and 4) procuring. These laws were originally drafted to give law enforcement the means to control street prostitution, pimping, and the operation of prostitution rings by organized crime. However, law enforcement can and do use these laws to charge escorts and escort agencies. In Canada, independent escorts can (and do) avoid the solicitation charge by only discussing and conducting sexual commerce in private (a residence, hotel room, by telephone or by email). Escort agencies run a greater risk of being charged and convicted with living off the ?avails? if it is proved that their escorts are engaging in prostitution and they are collecting fees from prostitution activities. Agencies are also vulnerable to the procuring charge which is heavily sanctioned if underage escorts are employed. An independent escort can live off her earnings without fear of the ?avails? charge. Link: http://debauchette.com/2008/06/dave-elms/

That's what I like from Cerb, because they don't allow some agencies or other ladies to have multiple accounts and to post bad comments (bogus/fake reviews) about other ladies in the business. Also recently I read that Cerb don't allow agencies/ladies to advertise via private messaging (it must be annoying for clients) and they don't allow the agencies to contact or try to recruit the independent ladies via PM. I didn't know. I knew they care about the ladies, but I didn't know they were ready to go that far to protect them and the community. With all the things going on, I guess it can only be a good thing for anyone with good intentions. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19815 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16212 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=32457&highlight=shill http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13477&highlight=shill http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39166&highlight=shill+asian

By TERRI SAUNDERS, Ottawa Sun On Monday, police said they have charged Asad Noor Saleh, 24, with two counts of sexual assault, two counts of impersonating a police officer, forcible confinement, choking, theft under $5,000 and robbery. The charges stem from two separate incidents, one late last year and one in January. ?These were very significant assaults,? said Ottawa Police Staff Sgt. John McGetrick. ?It?s fair to say there was violence involved.? McGetrick said one woman went to police in February with allegations she had been assaulted by Saleh in January. Saleh was arrested and charged before being released on a promise to appear in court at a later date. When his court date came Saleh failed to show up, McGetrick said, and a warrant was issued for his arrest. In the meantime, a second woman came forward with allegations she had been assaulted by Saleh late last year. When police finally arrested Saleh this past Friday, he was charged in relation to the second victim?s allegations. Both assaults occurred at private locations, McGetrick said. It?s alleged Saleh impersonated a police officer in order to gain the upper hand over his victims. ?He advised them he was a police officer,? said McGetrick, referring to the allegations made by both women. ?He (allegedly) did this in order to intimidate them and prevent them from going to the authorities after the assaults.? McGetrick said while Saleh is currently only charged in relation to these two incidents, it?s possible more victims may come forward. ?In cases like this, and it doesn?t always happen, but often we find there are more victims out there,? he said. ?It?s possible that?s what we?re dealing with in this case.? According to reports Saleh works as a personal trainer at a fitness centre on Hazeldean Rd. in Kanata. When asked by phone whether a man by that name worked there, a woman at the centre answered, ?Yes, he does.? The centre manager did not return a phone message Monday. Saleh was scheduled to make an appearance in court. Link: http://www.ottawasun.com/news/ottawa/2010/04/19/13642951.html