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Wrinkledintime He is God here....perhaps a horny version of God but he is Cerb's God !! MrNice Such a nice and caring guy but has a rockin sense of humor - has us all wrapped around his finger !! .... and I will sit down one of these days over some beers with MrNice and say...."Honestly big buy.....WTF .... you cheer for the Habs ???" lol Phaedrus Well...hmmm....he is just Phaedrus ....awesome and funny fella....tends to make fun of me at times but I got over it...... Roamingguy He just has a little bit of everything to offer here...from soup to his nuts ;) heh heh I am just waiting for him and Gabby to split up so I can slide in there for a little rebound comfort and stuff for Gabs .... Just the caring guy I am ;) I would do that for you RG..... Castle Jesus man some of the things he says hahahaha Renegade A pretty awesome fella and from MANITOBA !!!! Notch "Show Me The Fripples" Great guy ! hfxAndy - AKA Clint Eastwood Awesome guy - like to meet him if I head east...but I picture him pointing a gun at me and saying "Go ahead make my day" ;) Cato and PistolPete 2 of Cerb's pioneer fellas - Kudos.....I now picture them wearing hats like the pilgrims did :) I could go on and on.....some great fun fellas here !!! I will leave off with a fella I believe to be the CRAZY glue that holds this place together....at least from the male side of the equation. He's the man of the hour in my books !! He's got it going...he's the shit.....he's a DOG !!!

I really need to express the deep feeling of complete respect and admiration to the Gentlemen of CERB!! Each one of you who participate on this board just know exactly how to make a girl feel like a princess! You all make a lady feel so appreciated and welcomed here:) You are here for us when we need advice. When we need to laugh. When need to be assured about our way of life! You never make us feel dirty, or under-appreciated. Never have I been treated like a commodity with my CERB lovers. From my HEART I want to say Thank You! Ladies lets give a hand to the fine Gentlemen who make our days easier, with laughter, support, and genuin respect!!! Ladies, Please feel free to give thanks to your special loved peeps from CERB! WIT Cato RG Hockey Spud Porthos Liquor Scottthecunuck LeeRichards Rowdy 1963Kennedy Tokan Dameltanin096 Cometman Steveyk Ohhh my I could go on and on, but thanks to all of you for being there for me when I needed you!

CERB is a tough place to defend this, in the context of working as an escort, but outside of my work I do not like to be sexualised by strangers wherever I go. Even if you don't understand it I think it's pretty clear that women do not find random bum-related comments complimentary, so no man should expect to be thanked for a comment that he knows will not be appreciated. I will say thank you for compliments on my dress, but not my ass. That's just telling men that I like it when they objectify my. I understand it, because I view women sexually as well. But I don't thrust my sexuality at them while they are shopping for lettuce. I don't want to single out poor boomer, but I want to address the idea that women dressed in a sexy manner are fishing for these "compliments". It really opens a can of worms. Should every man she passes tell her what he thinks of her body? If it is okay to say your ass is spectacular is it also okay to say, "Wow, I would love to fuck you"? Where do we draw the line? How many men get to talk about her ass or tits in the grocery store before she's allowed to stop thanking them? If it is not acceptable for every man should say "great ass" who gets to be the exception? Should she wear jogging pants if she doesn't want men commenting on her body? (Btw, this doesn't work.) How sexy is sexy enough to warrant being objectified publicly by strangers? I am an escort, I am far from a prude, and I HATE getting these kinds of comments from men when I'm going about my day. Nuances make a huge difference, and there is a not-so-subtle nuance between smiling and making lewd comments about a woman's body. It is very easy to smile and say nothing, and that is always recommended. Women have said again and again, for decades (probably centuries) -- with near perfect unanimity -- that we do not like these comments. I think you can take us at our word that we're not fishing for them, no matter what we're wearing. I hope that didn't come across as too negative.

There is a time and a place for paying those kind of compliments and costco is just not one of them. You did well to resist the urge. Smiles from strangers are appreciated by most women, I believe. But lewd remarks from strangers walking up to you out of nowhere are generally not popular. It is pretty objectifying. You probably wouldn't make a girl feel complimented, but rather dehumanised. Appreciate her quietly -- we all look and there's nothing wrong with that. But don't walk up to a woman and make any remarks about her body. How is she supposed to respond to a comment like that? She knows, and she's probably happy you enjoy how she looks. But she doesn't want to hear your opinion of her ass while she's going about her day.

Geeeeeez.... I soooo wish I could make this one, I absolutely love my East Coasters!!!! Unfortunately I am heading west the week before to wave half of my child support payments goodbye... MY KID FINALLY GRADUATED FROM UNIVERSITY!!!!! You make darn sure there are more of these down east... I would love to take a road trip to spend time with all of you!!!

I'm in agreement with the ladies here. I always resist the temptation to 'compliment' women on a specific physical feature, with these exceptions: I sometime tell them they have beautiful eyes or a great smile. I do not shy away from complimenting them on their dress, skirt, blouse, shoes, as I consider I am then complimenting them on their taste, not their physical beauty. I do it with moderation, both at work or in other social settings. So, to the OP: it is good to resist the urge to say to a woman, at Costco or elsewhere, that she has a great ASS :) Best, toine

I dress for myself, just because someone is dressed a certain way it does not make it acceptable to approach them and make comments on their body. If I was with my (imaginary) boyfriend and some guy came up and said that I would only hope he would get a quick lesson in manners and being polite. I tell all my guy friends to imagine how they would feel if someone said whatever they are thinking to their mother/wife/sister/daughter. Posted via Mobile Device

Hey all, I've just bee PM'd by someone registered with a new account and no post history asking me for a private INDY MA rec. As much as I'd like to help a hobbiest out, please keep in mind that for the safety of the Indies out there (see this recent thread http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=90885 ) people need to show some good faith and participate in the forums before info like that can be shared. Happy hobbying...

Today's nomination from me is everyone's favorite pink-haired (OK, not any more) siren... Malika! She's more thank capable of posing as a respectable member of society and posting sensible things... but also brings us strangeness from the wierder corners of the intertubes and her own brilliantly quirky take on everything. Sensible Malika, that your mother would approve of: Malika sauvage, which your mother would probably not approve of :)

My CERB Goddess Of The Day is Sophia Varoushka. A lady from down east who contributes upbeat posts to CERB, helping to make it the positive board it is. When she posts something I read it. And her latest thread, much along the same lines as CERB's Goddess of the Day Thread is her thread, Ode To The Gentlemen Of CERB, allowing members to post something positive about the gentlemen of CERB...definitely contributes to positiveness on CERB Sophia's Profile http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=38592 What some gentlemen have said about Sophia http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=56823 And a picture or two RG

I used to work for customer service for Rogers a few years ago. While I got paid more then the $10/hour number that has been brought up here, a lot of times I found myself between a rock and a hard place. Often because of my employer. One of the rules that we had to adhere to was that if the customer was being nasty, we could not hang up, unless we gave them three warnings. I mean how silly is that? Being called every name in the book, and your response was "Sir/Ma'am, please do not use that language or I will have to end the call". By the end of my time there, even if the insult wasn't hurled at me, but just swearing in general, I'd hang up the call, but I could have gotten fired for that. Another common situation was that we would have to provide help for something we had no clue about. And getting no support from Rogers, except "Just google it and figure it out". This was while we had to keep call lengths short, clients happy, and satisfied. Again, employment was dependent on these factors. In my time there, I saw so much turn over. I stuck there because of my patience, and even that ran out which is saying a lot. My point being, is that for a "legitimate" job, I was expected to endure verbal abuse, I was expected to provide a miracle, downright lie for the company on occasions (when it was Rogers fault, but I was not allowed to say it), and so much crap that one should be expected to do for money. Being an SP is a job. They are inherent risks to it (STDs, violent client), and that sucks. But there are many jobs out there that require a certain degree of physical risk, and we don't ban it. As a society, we deem porn okay, stripping okay, but when it comes to two sane, consenting adults (or maybe three or four), accepting money for sex, it becomes trampy? Your friend might be a lovely person, but she is so confused as to the difference between and SP and a sex slave is.

I've debated starting this thread for months. Firstly when I left cerb last September, and more recently when I rejoined. I've heard some very, very outlandish rumours about why I left cerb, and retired from escorting last September. Which is why I chose to put this thread in the 'escort discussion' area. I've heard these rumours from people who heard them from people I've never met. And people who definitely should not be sharing my personal information. Especially personal information that isn't even true. So, I've finally decided to make it public. Here's the big reason I retired from escorting last year: I lost a friend. And two months later I lost another. And a few months after that, I lost another. Escorting is a business that requires a very, very large part of your emotions to be there. Massage does as well, but not to the same level. And I haven't been able to provide the connection escorting has required for quite a few months now. I did not retire because I was robbed. I was NOT robbed by a client or anyone to do with the business. I did get robbed, and shared that information with some SPs in private, and it is very sad that this information was not kept in private because it had nothing to do with work. I did not retire because my business was lacking, or because I couldn't afford a work apartment. I left because I wanted, when I went home at the end of the day, to be able to focus on my friends, and my life. Nothing scandalous. And it makes me very sad that I've continued to hear gossip and rumours about me and my life in the months since I made the change. We all share parts of ourselves with each other on a daily basis, both on this site, and in the work that we do. But here's a note to people to think that they have the right to pry, and butt in to the personal business of people who just want to be left alone: it hurts, it creates lies, and you're not helping anyone. I've grown tired of people telling me why they heard I've left, and I'm saddened that people think my life is something to be gossiped about. We all can get very personal in our discussions on this site, and in our sessions: but here's a tip that should be taken to heart by everyone: if it was told to you in private, that makes it private. Don't spread rumours about people, and don't break confidences. You're better than that. Everyone is. I am not posting this for anyone to offer condolences on the loss of my friends. I'm not posting this for people to offer sympathy or anger in any way, or to post stories about rumours they've heard. I simply decided that, after so many months of STILL being asked why I left, and still hearing rumours about my reasons, that I would share this. That's all. Thanks.

Jade, thanks for sharing your experience with your friend. You've received a lot of support and advice here, which is what I generally expect from the good men and women on this board. But that has never stopped me from adding my own $0.02 to the mix! :icon_smile: Harsh, rigid, judgmental people are very difficult to handle and, as Carrie pointed out, not good for us in the long run. It's much better to surround yourself with people who really do love and care for you. In my experience, judgmentalism is deeply rooted in fear; as such it's a fundamental spiritual dilemma. The "judgers," as WiT calls them, are terrified of doing wrong things, or stepping outside of the social norms they perceive to be important. For many of them, the best way to make sure that they're acting and thinking correctly is to criticize others. I imagine that your friend is critical of many people for a wide range of things, from the trivial to the significantly disordered. The more intense her focus, the stronger her anxiety about being the subject of such scrutiny herself. Whatever she's particularly energetic about likely reflects a significant personal insecurity if her own. My hunch is that women who are particularly hostile about or towards sex workers are generally ill at ease with their own sexual feelings, desires or even their own bodies. Maybe they've had bad experiences with men that left them feeling devalued or hurt, or maybe they're afraid of men for other reasons. Maybe they're caught in that no-woman's-land between knowing or understanding very little about how their own bodies respond and the social myth that everyone is having a fabulous, passionate erotic life, particularly if they're under, say, 40 years old. If sex in general is a problem, the knowledge that there are women who actually make a good living by having lots of different kinds of sex with many different men may be especially threatening. Whatever is true for your friend, her reactions are about her, not about you or anyone else. Spending too much time with her negativity could be a big challenge for you and may not be a healthy choice. What matters most to me, though, is that you feel positive about working in our industry and that your experiences here are good for you. That's how it's been for me, too. The men I've met have generally been fine fellows: kind, thoughtful, caring and compassionate. They've treated me very well and I hope they feel that they've been well-treated in return. The other companions I know are mostly very smart, creative, capable women who could thrive in many different careers but have found personal fulfillment in this one and are willing to be helpful and supportive of other sex workers.

Jade. one of the great things about CERB is that it is such a supportive place for those times when one simply needs a place to vent, so good on you to use it for that and to bring back to us again the issue of stereotyping and ignorance that is so prevalent "out there." I have read your words multiple times and feel that there are two issues that you are addressing. The first is the widespread stereotype that is so common to those who have no knowlege of the lifestyle. That stereotype is promulgated by the media, by the film industry, by sensationalist journalism, and is very much ingrained. Sadly, a year and a half ago I would have been one that suffered under those erroneous beliefs. I have addressed previously on CERB, as have many others, how these stereotypes have been absolutely shattered and set aside. The more important thing that you have addressed is the judgemental attitude of your friend and seeing that apparently she is unwilling to set her opinions aside to listen to or even consider other views and perspectives. THAT is a very difficult position to be in. Others have commented here previously that there are times when dealing with certain individuals that specific topics are to be avoided at all costs, as the attitude that you face is one that is fixed and closed and a conversation on that topic has no positive upside for you. There is also a belief that I have, that a friend is a friend is a friend. In conclusion all I can say from a personal perspective is that my experience with women involved in this business, be they full time or part time, is that I am continually struck by their strength, their personal conviction, their comfort with self - sexually and otherwise. For you to have that is something that no one can take away from you and is such an amazing gift that many many people, men and women alike, would dearly wish to attain. Keep your convictions, be true to yourself, educate others as the opportunity presents itself and recognize that there are some who choose to be a closed book. Vent away. :)

Come hell or high water I am going to get me some of Dat Ass....or is it Dis Ass ?? Oh Hell..... Gabby's ass is mine someday ! ;)

That is another thing that is crazy. Everyone thinks that the Gatineau (use to be Hull) police are out to just get English people. Trust me they have enough other issues to deal with than to solely focus on English guys visiting SPs. When you think about it even the Ottawa police don't really worry to much about people visiting SPs on the Ottawa side. As long as you are discreet on either side of the river you will have no problems. I will admit the the old Hull police had a reputation of being pretty hard on English speakers in the past but that was usually because it was the deluge of English speaking drunks leaving Ottawa at 1 am to continue drinking in Hull whose closing time was 3 am. The Hull police in those days did not "suffer fools lightly" and it just so happened most of the fools at that time were English speakers. Anyway, I think we can wrap this whole discussion up before we get too far down the road of English/French relations.

All I can say.. is I hope you distance yourself from this person and develop friendships with people who don't use severe judgement, manipulation and emotional blackmail as their tools to dictate a friendship. I'm a much happier person for only allowing people who treat me with respect and love in my life :)

Ohhh How could I forget about the charming Gentlmen we all know as Pistol Pete!! He is such a romantic, tender, caring and always so smart in his advice and support! Thank you Pete!! Ohhh my...mylist grows, lol....Jazzitup! You have not been forgotten! lol...You are so playful and sensitive I just love the way you make me feel! Easy going and cool baby!

There are many that deserve a mention but the two that truly deserve a mentioin here are... Old Dog for his humor, his sharp wit and his constant genuine support of the community here in the Ottawa area. He is a master of the "all are welcome" attitute and he always has a willing ear held up by a strong shoulder when a girl needs one... AND Cowboy Kenny who has consistently supported the members of our online community, both SP and hobbyist. His sharp eye, constant diligence and willingness to help complete strangers has made him many followers and friends... Salute gentlemen... cat

Well I love all my gentlemen friends so I am just goint to pick thee for the following reasons. mrrnice2 becasue he is always there for me, no matter what. Lee Richards, 100 percent of the time he is funny and makes my laugh. hfxandy, he is wise beyond his years and has a funny way of "catching" me being bad!! stevecurious, straight forward and no BS. He tells it like it is and I appreciate that in a person. Everyone is special and you all ad your unique touch to this board. :)

Sophia, you've already mentioned a lot of the lovely gentlemen who participate on the board! In addition to those you've already mentioned, I would like to give thanks to mrnice2 phaedrus mrgreen760 whose contributions on the board I always pay special attention to. I would also like to give thanks to areez Mr.Goldfinger for making me laugh in chat!

Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people - Eleanor Roosevelt

To my friend, the matriarch of CERB... without you we would be lost. Happy birthday hun!!!!

Sounds from the way Twinson tells it she may have been fishing for the compliment, at the least enjoying the affect she was having on the guys. But I do agree that it's probably not a good idea to wander over and tell her what you're thinking, you never know how the boy friend would react when he returned.

Yes, I remember that shower scene with that super hunky guy when you lived in Toronto. I'm panting right now thinking of it, ha ha.

You don't have to be free of your wheelchair to dance, don't you watch Glee? Ardie has lots of hot women at his bec and call and I am sure it will be the same for you, chair, crutches or wings!!

Happy Birthday Angela, hope you enjoy your day. Your special gift(from myself) will be coming soon I hope, you know what it is.lol

The city finally showed up and planted a nice 12-15 foot oak tree in my front yard, gratis through the Trees in Trust program.

Well I decided from this thread, to include 2 days of weekend and 2 days of weekday:) I normally never make weekends as a part of my tour dates, but I think this plan just might be the way to go! Thanks all for your input!! xoxoxox

I think you're being a little bit overly concerned. Over the years I've never had trouble with my safety or privacy. If you take the time to do your research and look for providers who have been around for a while and have good reputations you should have no problem. You have to remember that their objective is to be discrete as their business depends on it. I would suggest that if secrecy is critical then maybe you should find another form of recreation. The other solution would be to get a hotel room where you control access and order take out, one of the well known spas offers that option.

I would echo what has already been said here, just share with him what you would say publicly, or if it really bothers you, just ignore him.

I am fairly new here, and have enjoyed several recs and posts from a few fellows (Poolsasaurus' included) that I think I could relate to . Without knowing the actual text to determine if there was a "creepiness" factor, it may have been harsh to suggest that anyone asking advice, just because they're new, could be a "stalker" or other such villain. I have corresponded with one fellow, and asked him if I could ask him stuff by PM, and he said sure, but I assume he only shares what he is comfortable with...all good...more than fair..and I have absolutely no other agenda other than to get the benefit of some of his experience. I think Backrubman has a very sensible approach to the issue. You have to make your own call, I guess, but I would like to think that by and large the folks here are all decent, caring and repectful....if he wasn't, well that's another matter. Additional Comments: I am fairly new here, and have enjoyed several recs and posts from a few fellows (Poolsasaurus' included) that I think I could relate to . Without knowing the actual text to determine if there was a "creepiness" factor, it may have been harsh to suggest that anyone asking advice, just because they're new, could be a "stalker" or other such villain. I have corresponded with one fellow, and asked him if I could ask him stuff by PM, and he said sure, but I assume he only shares what he is comfortable with...all good...more than fair..and I have absolutely no other agenda other than to get the benefit of some of his experience. I think Backrubman has a very sensible approach to the issue. You have to make your own call, I guess, but I would like to think that by and large the folks here are all decent, caring and repectful....if he wasn't, well that's another matter.

... but I did tell ya I was bringing back a piece of tail....

Same thing dude!!! Mom said to me last year that before she is too old and decrepit, she wants to visit Scotland for the first time. I said, "DEALIO!" She went on to break a hip last year, so she won't be doing the highland fling or any sword dancing (she was a SW Ontario champ in 1940!)... but by gum we are going to Lochgilphead come hell or high water!!!

Wow, where to begin, there are so many. I'll start with these gents.... Old Dog and Lee Richards for their humour, wit and good comeback lines. Roaming Guy for his fishing jokes, song picks and for being a real "gentleman". Mutau for his incredible intellect and yummy home baked cookies that he so generously donated to the ladies for our socials. Mrrnice22 for his kind nature, generosity and hospitality. Castle for humouring me about cum shots. Backrubman for his thought-provoking posts. Etasman for his generosity in donating door prizes for the ladies at all the socials I organized even though he could not attend. Boomer for lending a helping hand wherever needed. Areez for always being friendly in the chat room. The General for putting up with my "starched white shirt" jokes. Cowboy Kenny for his hard work and dedication to Cowboy's Diary and here on cerb.

JessicaMassage! I can no longer recall if Jessica was mentioned in this thread or not... Either way, she is my Goddess for today :) Actually, for the whole week! Her website Her profile Her recommendations

Sophia... Thank you so much for the reminder.... I truly enjoy what I do, for the reasons you stated plus many more. So it's nice to be reminded of the positive side of what we do. Not often do I give the negative any thought until someones judgement is so critically handed to me. Hearing the words spoken from a stranger, in a news article or even the portrayal of the industry in movies or on TV. Unjustified, it riles me to be steroetyped. So it is sometimes hard to hear, but hearing them from a friend? Hurtful that even when your personality is known, the judgement is the same. There is still the sterotype and somehow in that space of time in someones eyes, you've become less. How what I do? Suddenly changes who I am. I suppose thats what made it so difficult, yesterday. I am by nature not a critical person, and I stick to the old addage of "Live and Let Live" I don' t beleive that one choice is right for everyone. I dont expect that my choices are choices that everyone would make. I knew, and know even now that there will likely never be a day when this profession is seen as just that, a profession. We will always judged by someone who believes they have a higher moral standard. An SP lives with this every day. So do numerous other people. For many different reasons. Discrimination is everywhere. Maybe for now all we can hope for is acceptance and understanding it would be a good place to start. As they say...One whisper added to 1000 others becomes a roar of discontent. This is my whisper......

I'm very happy to welcome back to cerb Jewel247, in Kingston.

I was sitting having a couple beers with my 80 year old father on Sunday and talking about family.... he got up and came back with some OLD maps and letters .... and said "son would you take me to Europe next summer so we can visit some of the sites your Grandfather fought at in the war ?" That just became #1 on my bucket list :) If he can still travel we are so going !

I believe "A Single Man" is an underrated film. Despite a rating of 7.3 on Rotten Tomatoes, I believe it deserves much more praise. Set in the early 1960's during the McCarthy period, this gay university professor suffers the loss of his long-term partner in a car crash. The director explores themes such as grief, health, fear of the 'unknown', love, friendship, and art. The filming technique is different, and I love the meaning garnered from how the director, Tom Ford, plays with light and colour. It is a slow paced, but incredibly beautiful movie. To enjoy this film, you must be willing to genuinely see, hear, and imagine!

I have been away for a few days but today's pick for me is Penelope Davis http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=35208 I don't really know her but her online persona is so very sweet! Beautiful!!!

My pick for Goddess of the day is Sophia Varoushka. I recently got to spend some time socializing with her on her last visit to Ottawa, and she was gracious, humourous, and lots of fun to be around. She also has a body to die for!! Lean, strong and toned!

These two ladies have already been mentioned in this thread but I must mention them again because they are amazing women, Goddesses and have become wonderful friends of mine from afar.... A couple of east coast sweethearts.....they are good friends themselves....they both are beautiful women !! Intelligent, kind, caring, fun, awesome senses of humor, adventurous, of course gorgeous !! .....and frisky :D prrrrr prrrrr and prrrrrr One has seen Austin naked.....poor girl ...hope I didn't scar you for life ;) The other one most definately will SOON !! poor girl.... haha Katherine Penelope Davis This pic pops into my head whenever I hear the words "Nova Scotia" ;)

So it was an arranged marriage, then? You owe your marriage broker a beer or three :) For today, I'm also going to nominate someone I've never met, although I'd love to do so if we ever end up within a reasonable distance of each other... Samantha Evans. I've always been hugely impressed by the wisdom and good sense she brings to the board, by her support for everyone else here, and the excellent advice she gives out when requested. Long may it continue!

this is a rare thing for me, but I am more staring at her gorgeous face than her boobs

Hi,no bus options yet and the government seems unwilling to push them back to the roads,most bus users cannot afford air or rail travel and since its usually the poor that get stepped on here is a classic example,if it was air canada or via rail they would have been back to work ages ago.At least thats the way I see it.I hope I have not offended anyone by saying this.Bye,have a good day.