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If you found out that someone you were involved with had been a veterinarian, would it affect your relationship? A dentist? A physicist? No? So why would another occupation she might have had bother you? Think seriously about this. Tease out exactly what it is that you're hung up on, don't just settle for a sense of vague, undefined discomfort. If it's "she'd have slept with a lot of guys other than me", this could be equally true of any partner you meet. But it doesn't matter, because those events were in the past. You just need to worry about your relationship, in the present. If her past experience really bothers you now, then you're sexually insecure. The problem isn't her; it's you. If it's "she was intimate with men and took money for it", then you need to examine your attitude toward the women whose company you (presumably) pay for from time to time. There's nothing wrong with the work an SP does, and she's not cheapened by having done it. If you can't accept that, please stop seeing SPs. Me? Frankly I would admire the implied sexual maturity and her comfort with her sexual self, and 'd be happy for what she might be able to teach me because her experience would be far vaster than my own. If she was willing to share I'd love to hear her stories, because she'd have learned many, many, many first-hand lessons about human behaviour I'll likely never be in a position to learn myself. But mostly I wouldn't really care, because I'd be dating a whole person, all of her, as she is today, and as she wants to be tomorrow; and there's infinitely more to know and love and care about her than how she once chose (or chooses) to make her living. I'll leave aside the "but what if you'd seen her as an SP first?" because that falls into the same old "I've fallen in love with my SP!" discussion for the gazillionth time, and Search can provide all the insight you need.

I though that most knew but i came the conclusion that not all know what it mean. I personally give severals options of booking..one is to provide your handle if you have a posting history instead of full name..To my surprise over 6people this week no posts choose that option which i had to tell them that need to have an history to be acceptable as screening information i accept. It mean you have to have made some post on the board,reviews...Long good standing member VJ

I think when you truly fall in love with someone, you fall in love with THEM as they are. I don't see how certain behavior, especially something that is sexual in nature, should change my opinion of someone I am in love with. Society puts a lot of heaviness on sex, and in all honesty it is something fun and beautiful that is completely human nature. I'm not here to judge how anybody else thinks or believes, I just think people in general need to loosen up a little bit, and smell the roses. Men and women like variety, clearly or else why are we all here? If everyone would come together and be honest with each other, imagine all of the beautiful open sex we could all have, and how much happier and more connected we could all be... Joke. Maybe that's what happens in heaven and that's why we're all naked :icon_lol:

When I meet a man who I think I may be interested in dating, I pretty much out myself right away so that I don't waste his or my time. If I don't think it's going to go anywhere, I may or may not, not because I'm ashamed of what I do, but rather, I am tired of having those talks where I feel I need to defend the profession. Some guys who I was sure would have a problem with what I do, actually turned out to be cool with it and my best supporters. As Juliana said, you fall in love with the person - who they are, not what they do. At the end of the day, if we have our heads together, we can simply remind ourselves, this is our livelihood and if there are others who don't approve, but I'm okay with what I do, then that's "their" problem, not mine.

The person I love most is an SP. <3 <3 Oh wait, that's me. ;)

My husband chose to get involved with, even marry me. His sisters have asked him if the way his mother way caused him to take up with me. His mother was a widow with eight kids to feed when her husband died. She was a young widow. Men would sometimes show up at her door after the bar closed and want in. She'd let them in. The next day there was money for things there weren't the day before. Is that somehow wrong??? She could pick crops in the field. She could take care of other people's kids. She could scrub other people's floors. And all that was honourable?? But not taking in men after closing who were ready to pay cash?? I'm not saying that every woman who gets involved with a man is exploited. But believe me, we're not all. In my case, I live with a man who, because of his mother, respects me. We accept my job as a job (although a very pleasant one) My advice is to assume that every professional you meet is a professional, If she proves not to be, then you have your decision as to what to do about that.

"Unrushed" to me is a double-edged sword. It means that I don't try to rush him to finish and get out early, and he doesn't try to prolong and get more time than he paid for. I think most of us have some means of marking the time, even if it's not obvious to/oppressive to the customer's experience. And yes, of course we give a buffer of a few minutes here or there to clean up and get ready to leave. But we do notice when too much of that comes out our personal time. Our services are quantified, even if you don't or don't want to realize it. Use the time you purchase from us wisely.

I like to finish the date chatting, cuddling, and generally relaxing. I appreciate it if I can have a shower and not feel like I have to be out the door on the minute. Asking for a resumption of sexual activities with only 10 minutes or so left is just disrespectful. If we want the ladies to not be clockwatchers, then we have to be respectful of their time. Porthos

A few days late with this one but had a wonderful social visit with Katherine on her latest trip to Charlottetown. It was a great afternoon of catching up and enjoying each others company...something that I have sorely missed these past few months.

Get involved with an SP...sure why not? Trying to understand why I wouldn't has me perplexed. I really can not see the issue in this topic. I know that certain aspects of society would be hung up on such a thing but these are not Puritan times and yes women are allowed to work, drive and vote. I mean SP's are SP's...not mass murderers. I consider this a no brainer but that is just me. That said I respect that everyone has the right to their own opinion even if it differs from mine. I say that "less receptive" need to take a step back and realize that the days of Father Knows Best are long gone.

I hope this doesn't come off as rude or disrespectful but I have never really understood why this phrase, "not a clockwatcher" is used so much. I know I am being too literal but I don't get why clients say this about SP's and SP's say this about themselves all the time. I expect you to keep track of time because.....I am paying you for your time! Regular updates from the lady about how much time I have left would be a bit annoying. I sometimes ask for msog and on occasion the lady will say, we got about X minutes left, maybe we should get started. I have no problem with that at all. I realize that ladies want to try and make in an intimate occasion and as Gabriella said not make it feel like a "meaningless business transaction", but ultimately this is a business transaction and if the lady is a professional she is aware of the time. Having said all that, I agree with Gabriella's definition of "not a clock watcher" you don't kick the guy out at the 60/120/240 minute mark, if he leaves 5-10 minutes "late" no biggie.

I was working out in the gym when i spotted Katrine C. She was a sweet yound thing... I asked the trainer that was near-by '' What machine should i use to impress Katrine standing over there ?'' The trainner looked at me up and down and said '' Try the ATM in the lobby '' LOOOOOOOL :) A friend sent me this to make me laught :) i still cant believe how good it is ahahah wanted to share have a great weekend all xox katrine C.

I agree that there is nothing hotter than a woman in heels and stockings. I really enjoy watching a woman put them on..... Only for me to take them off her after

City and Colour did not disappoint last night! a very warm,but fantastic night and great tunes, Dallas Green can punch out the vocals. Lots of women there but sorry Claire did not see you :(

The think the question is who.... not what! :hump:

I understand WIT that you don't want to lie.. but your other 2 options in that situation are to confront (which is highly undesirable) and the 3rd which is to go through with the session. Neither is a fun option. I get that. I have to admit I've gone through with a session when I found a client trying to cheat me.. and it's 'only a 1/2 hr' will go through my head or ''only an hr''.. The problem with being cheated or lied to.. is there's no gracious way out of it.. that I've found.. and confrontation is the worst of the 3 for me. I do like you do.. confront afterwards.. but not from a safe email distance. I do it right away now.. because I'm on my own turf. It's extremely unpleasant in any way. I think the sps in your case(s) are unscrupulous business managers at best and thieves at the worst.. but that' just my opinion. I don't think a well worded email followup will do any good. The types of people who do such a thing count on guys being too polite to do anything about it. You have to scratch those up to TOFT (taking one for the team) One time I had a guy (many years ago and long before cell phones and internet) book with me. Show up and then say he got paged to work as I answered the door.. A major 'I just wanted to see what you look like' and leave. He then booked me about a month later.. thinking I wouldn't remember him. I did. I saw him for the appt rather than confront him. He said.. 'nice to have met you' as he left. I said.. 'actually we've met before.. and I'm not impressed'. Have a good day. Sometimes how I handle a sneak depends completely on my mood. Had I been PMSing.. it might have been a completely different story. lol.. Another one showed up with about half the fee.. telling me some sob story about receiving a ticket earlier. After explaining to him that he wouldn't get any service from me and needed to pay me a cancellation fee for wasting my time.. which he refused. I warned him to turn around and I'd give him a kick on the butt as he left. which I did. He later begged and begged me for an appt.. which I eventually caved in.. and he became an almost model client for several years for myself and 3 other fellow colleagues. They know who they are and who I'm talking about. Might be a radical solution and a rare one.. but he never did that crap again. I was definitely in a pms mood. I'm a little ashamed to share that story.. but I also did the same thing to someone showing up with pot in exchange for my services instead of cash.. so yeah.. I guess not really that ashamed. Sometimes being an ass gets you a boot right on it. (in my case a barefoot slap) Hope that those stories add some levity to the situation. xoxo C.

Something to consider. I do not mean to hijack this thread, but just wondering why the most of the OP's threads to date on CERB are primarily questions about girls from BP. Although not technically breaking the rules, it just seems odd to me. We have some great ladies from Nova Scotia (some of who I have met). I'd say your chances of finding someone legit is right under your nose - here on CERB. Good luck. Carry on with the thread.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune and suffering, Sophia. But I am glad to hear that you are feeling better already after seeing the doctor and taking the medication. This seems to me a rare adverse reaction to some of the ingredients in the product or it could be simply a bad lot. I would suggest that you write to or phone the company to complain or advise them of your problem making sure you give them the lot no. etc. You might also want to alert Health Canada and report your problem. If you google the product's name, adverse reaction, complaints re. this product etc., you might also be able to find out if this was an isolated case or not - and if not, what have other people done about it. Hope this helps and that you are on the road to a full recovery.

Saturday Jessie 9-9 aka "Jessie Brown" Katrine 9-9 aka "Katrine Cannon" Sheila 9-9 aka "Sheila" Crystal 9-9 aka "Crystal" Sunday Jessie 10-9 NEW aka "Jessie Brown" Sheila 10-4 aka "Sheila" Jennie 10-7 aka "ASTONISHING JENNIE" Jamie 4-9 aka "Jamie" Monday Crystal 9-4 aka "Crystal" Chrissy 9-9 NEW Kennidi 9-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Jessie 9-9 aka "Jessie Brown" Jamie 3:30-9 NEW Tuesday Crystal 9-9 aka "Crystal" Chrissy 9-9 NEW Kennidi 9-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Jamie 3:30-9 NEW Jennie 3:30-9 aka "ASTONISHING JENNIE" Wednesday Jamie 9-11 NEW Kennidi 9-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Crystal 9-4 aka "Crystal" Sheila 9-11 aka "Sheila" Jordyn 3:30-11 aka "Jordynk" Ashlynn 3:30-11 aka "Ashlynn" Thursday Kennidi 9-4 aka "Kennidikummings" Angela 9-4 aka"Amazing Angela" Sheila 9-7:30 aka "Sheila" Jennie 9-7:30 aka"ASTONISHING JENNIE" Ashlynn 3:30-11 aka "Ashlynn" Melody 7-11 aka "Melody" Jordyn 3:30-11 aka "Jordynk" Friday Sheila 9-11 aka "Sheila" Jessie 9-4 aka "Jessie Brown" Crystal 9-11 aka "Crystal" Ashlynn 3:30-11 aka "Ashlynn" Melody 7-11 aka "Melody" Saturday Jamie 9-3 NEW Jessie 9-9 aka "Jessie Brown" Katrine 9-9 aka "Katrine Cannon" Sheila 9-9 aka "Sheila" Crystal 3-9 aka "Crystal" Sunday Jamie 10-9 NEW Sheila 10-9 aka "Sheila" Chrissy 10-9 NEW

Here's more from the Lise Charmel collection ... and I must say, the model (whoever she is) is stunningly beautiful ...

Jordon is a very beautiful woman. Amazing face and smile, nice eyes, and a terrific well porportioned body - all natural. She comes in the room like an old friend. Warm and ready. Her massage skills are really good, so much teasing and expertise with the touching and finish. I wish I could say more. I had seen her when she first started and this was my first time back. Both times it was incredible. Im sure she could be a model - with the added bonus of personality. Have to ramp up my frequency a lot.

I will be wonderful, you can use my shower, , tub, hot tub and move in for the week. How is that for unrushed Lee Richards YMMV, ha ha. If you want my cats we are going to have a fight!!:icon_smile::icon_smile::icon_smile:

Absolutely. I have met some pretty darn amazing SP's ! Vibrant and intelligent ladies that love life, love to have fun, meet new people, travel and see the country or countries, and so happen to love sex :) It seriously would not matter to me. Just my opinion but I think an SP would really know how important and understand better what "a connection" is and how important it is to any relationship. Also a couple ladies that I meet with are educated accountants and when they become ex-SP's and I date them they can do my taxes....because once again yesterday the government told me that I suck it doing it myself ;) Cheers :chug:

'Unrushed' is very easy to write in an ad or on a website and it is really good to think about what it means. I think 'unrushed' to me is a lot to do with how the impending end of our time together is handled. Tapping a clock on the bedside table and telling me to hurry up is likely to damage the mood. Obviously if the time is already up as in Gabriella's example, then that is completely different. Being told the time on three or four occasions through the encounter will also interrupt the mood. I generally don't bring a watch with me, and wouldn't want to be wearing or checking one if I did, so timekeeping is really up to the provider. The easiest way is to probably to have a clock visible in the room so that I can check occasionally and make sure I'm not overstaying my welcome. Being told we only have 15 minutes or however long left, and asked how I want to spend the remaining time seems a good way to go and is no problem for me.

True! Either way when perusing BP, CL, etc. if it looks too good to be true chances are it is. It is always good practice to do your research.

If the gentleman in question was really THAT intent on getting off again, he should have done the honorable thing by asking if it would be possible to extend your time together by way of additional compensation for your time, and only if it didn't inconvenience yourself.

According to her, she did it purely out of financial necessity at the time, so she felt she didn't have a choice. Perhaps she had some negative experiences... She said that I didn't have to do what I did; I had a choice - she considered it immoral etc.. Too bad though... I treated her like a queen. Additional Comments: You know, the thing is I know better than to reveal my hobbying activities to someone I'm dating. I should qualify that statement a bit; I believe that a relationship SHOULD at least in theory, be based on honestly and full disclosure before the fact. The exception to the rule is anything that pertains to this industry, as I feel stereotypes and antiquated Victorian notions still run rampant amongst the general public. If you reveal yourself, you run the very real risk of the relationship ending, or at the very least having it thrown in your face every time there's an argument. In this case, considering our shared history, I thought things would be different and we could start off on a truly level playing field. - I guess not...

Sorry but I am somewhat confused " if the ladies are guys are asked about getting involved with SP's, shouldn't the same be asked of ladies (both civilian and SP) about guys engaged in this lifestyle" Can't quite make heads or tails out of this. Maybe I'm being a bit daft.

After a couple of months dating, my last GF told me she was an ex- SP. I had no problem with it whatsoever, since I am very liberal/open minded in general, and especially so considering my involvement in the hobby. Anyway, I decided to put all the cards on the table, and let her know that I was a hobbyist in the past. I thought it was safe to reveal this to her, since she had been involved in the industry itself. Much to my chagrin, she gave me the third degree about it - in short, it was the pot calling the kettle black IMHO. Needless to say, the relationship didn't last.

'Unrushed' has, to me, always meant that the SP does not make a direct move to reach the conclusion as soon as the session has begun. The sp allows the session to flow naturally; takes some time to get to know each other, and does not pressure the client to leave or make hir feel no longer welcome as soon as the session 's climax is complete. An SP who advertises hir session as unrushed should not look annoyed and impatient when two minutes of oral is not enough to induce an orgasm. A client should, in response, not take advantage of this unrushed style by pushing the limits on the previously agreed time , and should understand the limits of hir body and capability to reach orgasm within the time frame. A respectful client should not assume that the SP will be so awed by xe's ability to reach orgasm more than once that they will automatically extend the session to include more cuddling, shower time, etc.

To me, unrushed means an encounter can flow into a little overtime. But certainly not a case of we have five minutes left, I'd like another fs/bj well you fill in the blanks. And then staying at the lady's place to masturbate after time is up. No that is not unrushed, that is rude. But if you are lying in bed with the lady, after the sexual side of the encounter, kissing/cuddling/conversation, and you are enjoying each other's company, for the sake of each other's company, and it runs into overtime, that to me is an unrushed, and relaxed encounter. When it happens it happens and an unexpected treat. But I don't expect it. But as a sidebar, it has happened twice to me, that a lady stayed (I do mostly outcalls) past the allotted time. No companionship, fs/bj etc, just more like hung around. Frankly I wished they had left, even cut their encounter short. But I digress But for those ladies who I have had unrushed encounters with, well not only do they get their donation, I give a gift and tip. RG

The saying that time flies while having fun covers this situation perfectly. It is unbelievable how fast time goes when one is with a lady that you do enjoy being with and have that 'connection' with. I believe that I generally am pretty good at being aware of time, or more so the passage of time, but I have been wrong on at least a couple of occassions. In both cases when I got home I sent an email transfer to the women and in both cases I received a little note saying thank you but it was not necessary, and the transfer was declined. I have learned from those experiences and just from all experiences in general, that what I enjoy is the time spent. I am not a MSOG person probably regardless of how long we spend together, but I love and appreciate the conversation before and afterwards, and I realize that about myself. For me, the rare date is only an hour. In several cases that was what I have booked but after doing so I realized that was stupid of me considering who I was going to see, so we mutually arranged to extend that time before I arrived. Good decisions MN2!! All that being said, to answer Gabriella's question, I for one would have no issue at all with the woman reminding me of what time it is. Ahead of time we have concluded a mutually agreed upon contract, and I would not want to conciously abuse it. I have been in rooms with SP's where there is no clock visible and fortunately my internal clock was functioning, but the presence of a clock would not make me think that I am being pushed out the door. That could be a simple thing. So Gabriella and others, remind me as required, even though you should not have to do that. A deal is a deal.

Yes, I have found myself in this situation many times in the past. It is awkward to say the least! I think for some people "unrushed" has become code for MSOG?? I now started to ask the gentlemen when they are booking their appt, if they are wanting MSOG or more intimacy. I have found this does help me to organize my time with him. I also ask him, if he is a sensitive type, so that I can gage how intensely I can perform. When booking 1 hour appt, I like to get the first one out of the way to leave plenty of time to start again. I also remind them that a second time can be difficult and I can not guarantee success. For that matter, I do not like to guarantee anything. As some people arrive feeling blue, stressed and have their mind on other issues. But will guarantee an honest go at it! When I book 2 hours , then I will certainly expect to perform at least 2 times. Again asking the Gentlemen ahead of time how he wants our 2 hour date to be. Is he wanting MSOG or one long sensual experience? As for clock watching, I do not watch it too closely. But half ay threw our session, I like to remind them on how much time we have left and then will ask how we should spend our remaining time together. I also leave plenty of time between appt, just in case my Gentlemen would like to extend his time with me. So much can wrong when communication is not flowing:( It is vital for us to communicate what we want and expect in a date. Sp's are generally good mind readers, but you still need to be able to communicate what it is you want from our session with you. It sounds like you made a nice 2 hour date with your client. Hopefully he can learn from this and communicate his needs better to the next date?

Just a suggestion, have you tried toothpaste for sensitive teeth? If not this could be a cheap and easy solution for you. Just saying.

For me this is a tricky question. After doing a lot of research here on cerb and listen to a lot of peoples opinions on this subject the one major thing I've picked up is the ladies rates are what they are for a reason. And to me it is disrespectful to negotiate that rate. I also realize that in some cases this might be their sole line of income, and so in that case it is no longer a case of just being disrespectful but also infringing on their livelihood and that is the last thing I would want to do. When I was doing my research on who to see my main concern was looks, personality, and whether or not me and the lady would mesh during the encounter. Money was a factor but at the same time I would rather save my nickels and dimes so that I could see the lady I wanted to see. When I contact a particular lady I've pretty much already made up my mind, it's more or less a final check to see if we will click or to fill in some blanks rather than a negotiation. So in all honesty if at that point a lady suddenly dropped her rates I would question why and I'll admit it might make me more hesitant to see them. Now in my mind it's a little bit different if say a lady is offering a repeat client a deal, or a deal on longer sessions and she specifically states that in her info. But if it's out of the blue it would raise some red flags for me.

Thanks all for your comments to my post but I didn't think this was going to explode like it has. Cat, I think you got a little off topic there, maybe something for a separate thread. Let me restate this and be very clear. 1 - I have loved almost every encounter with you lovely ladies, and have ALWAYS added extra at the end of the session, even when things didn't go as well as I would have liked. 2 - The only reason I'm asking the rate is because it's not listed in the ad, or she doesn't have a website with her rates. Logic would state if it's already listed, I wouldn't have a reason to ask. Payment is always done immediately, and I can't read ones mind as to how much to put in the envelope. :) 3 - I'm sure I like to have as much fun as the next guy, and I always respect the woman's wishes. I'm NO BULLY. 4 - When I'm informed of the rate, I NEVER negotiate. If it's about a third more than the normal rate, then I POLITELY decline, and just say it is a little more than I was expecting. I don't say that to get a better rate. NO negotiating, NO haggling. 5 - Now when I'm asked "Ok, how much were you planning on spending" to keep the session; that's when I begin to wonder. Again, thanks for all the comments, some welcome more than others, but that's it, that's all!

Maybe the lady was bored or had a cancellation and being dressed to the nines and ready for work..why not offer a deal to someone who showed interest in her earlier. Sometimes it's better making something rather than nothing...just saying..anyway I'm bored with this thread..too much speculation

This is really not for us to judge. Let's give these girls a break already. Sinister? Every single cerb member here, women and men alike, have cut a deal at some point in their lives for the sake of a client. SPs have to pay the bills like everyone else. Let's not assume a sinister element. If a jewellery store owner or a sports store owner decides to cut a deal for an item, should we assume his motives are altruistic? Perhaps the jewellery store owner has a drinking problem. It's really not for us to judge why someone is offering lower rates. If you feel comfortable taking a lower rate, go ahead. If not, hang up the phone. The onus is not on the SP to provide moral justification for her business practices. If you felt weird accepting a deal, that's on you. And it is not our place to judge why you accepted it in the first place. Your finances are none of our business. So are hers. If you have a problem with her business practice, why is HER reputation on the line? xoxo

With all due respect, if you really take the time to research the Montreal scene, whether it be agencies and/or independents- there's SO much information out there- you will see that B&S and scams can easily be avoided. I don't know of any reputable agencies/independents who would participate in B&S! Thank you for insulting all companions who made the choice of becoming involved in this lifestyle by preference and not as a last resort because they 'couldn't make it' as a dancer or MA. Your comment is truly heart warming and shows much respect towards companions in general.

I think you may have been a victim of the weather, 37C!!, too hot to F**K.

I never heard of that before that's all. They don't advertise the massage on the site. Most business owners would advertise. I thought maybe this was privately run. Posted via Mobile Device