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Following Cleo's post earlier this month, i'm adding my voice as the other side of the equation (the client's side of course) on Nikki Thomas' show "Sex, Brains and Money". Enjoy!

I am 100%independant and have always been. I do not require references as I find my own gut reactions never lead me astray. That being said, if a client wishes to use me as a reference I have absolutely no qualms in providing him one. 2 seconds is all it takes to answer a simple question :)

I think you've posted this in the wrong place, Cato... it should be in the "first world problems" thread.... :)

It is one thing to have a bad date or be out of pocket financially .... It is another thing to be in a dangerous encounter. Team play amongst the ladies is huge in my opinion .... for safety. If you don't ask for references for your own business...that is your business. I do urge you to share with other ladies and not look at it as doing all the work for others... Us fella's share info via recco's, posts, threads and some with PM's. Worst case scenario is a bad experience or being ripped off. You ladies share information for the same reason.....but also for safety. Everytime I read threads like this I think of my cousin who perhaps maybe...just maybe would still be with us and enjoying life if she would have had the benefit of team play as it is now ....

Those who know me may know what it means when they read the latter part of the title, "my best ever". She is so beautiful, so sweet, so kind, so intelligent and so pale and so so passionate wow!!. I emailed her last week for a date set for today. She is always very quick in responding. I was taken by those lovely pictures of hers with that beautiful milky pale skin. I had to have a chance to see, kiss and touch it for myself. I couldn't wait for the incoming date. I woke up at 6:00 am this morning in anticipation of this date. I am almost always very calm before my dates as I have been with thousands but with Georgiana my heart was ponding in anticipation of a great time and the kissing of that beautiful skin. Georgiana arrived stunningly dressed in my favorite all black which best revealed her very pale skin and long black hair around her. A perfect match for her very pale skin. Smiling and cold we kissed and hugged and I welcomed her to my home to be my guest for the afternoon. We sat and chatted for a while to know each other better and hugged and kissed while conversing. I loved chatting with her as she was very nice and friendly but I couldn't wait longer so I invited her to the bedroom soon after her arrival. She was very responsive to just about everything. She made me feel like the greatest lover, in fact she made me feel like the greatest lover in the world for the two hours she was with me. As usual I don't get into details of my encounter except to say what I have said already that the encounter was my best experience ever. Georgiana has beautiful blue eyes (yes I kissed her eyes too), very pale soft skin , absolutely beautiful feminine body covered by the most feminine palest softest skin, a belly and bum to die for, absolutely beautiful sexy busty pair of boobs (strawberry on top of whipped cream), and an impeccable hygiene. I kissed her for an hour and a half and I could spend the rest of my life just kissing that skin and die happily knowing that I have been to heaven already . She is an angel in both looks and personality. Very friendly, very kind, and very beautiful inside out. If you love pale soft feminine skin, beautiful feminine body and face and angelic personality she is highly recommended for you. Thank you so much the Sweetest Gia for the heavenly time.

I am not sure if you could ever knock Shakira off my #1 in the list ? I do think singer Sheryl Crow has one of the most beautiful and sexy smiles I have ever seen :D

Sucking cock and getting fucked. Definitely my two favourites :D

Our own Shay :) This one's entitled Ready :) Imagine the possibilities :) And then of course this one:

How simple cotton lingerie can become something very exciting with... Miranda Kerr

This does sum things up nicely, and I also don't require references. It isn't necessary for how I screen or how I do my own bookings, etc. I also agree that if other sps do require references, that is cool, I understand there are a few reasons. For me personally, the safety issue seems to be paramount when the discussion comes up, but to me that is the least of the reasons for references. For one thing, like getting a phone call from an unblocked # versus a blocked one it sets up a false sense of security on that issue. To me, compatibility and our conversation help me decide if I am going to see a new caller or not. I wouldn't ask for references, nor will it be that important to me if he has them. HOWEVER, I would never, if asked, refuse to give one to another sp if the client contacted me and asked if I could do that. I would NEVER consider that what I do is all the work for those reference requiring sps so that they can have a safe encounter. But then I don't really consider that 'safety' is the number one issue for needing references, and I assume that at least half of the most important reason is elimination of time wasters. And that is important to everyone, imo. Just because some sps require references, and some don't, doesn't make either one better than the other. As one client points out, an sp's refusal to provide them takes her off his list. Her not requesting them at all puts her on someone else's list.

It would be nice if bp had an option to buy more letters, I always have to remove half the ad I create due to their letter limit, I would have no problem paying a bit more to not abreviate nearly every word on my ads. I doubt you creeped anyone out if you treat the ladies as you have mentioned. I myself have a made a few rather large slip ups regarding appointments. (Usually due to jotting it down somewhere random and not putting all in one place) and also when I was moving from hotel to temporary rental and again to an apartment. This is something I have been working to fix, to prevent doing so again.

I would question the choice of words, better choice. Yes the ladies are a more transient lot on BP, but there are some lovely ladies there. It's a matter of doing your research and making wise choices. I think you will find some ladies use both venues. The other thing is that you can put up an ad cheaply by the day on BP, whereas although I don't know the details, but taking an ad on EC you commit to a longer period, possibly a month.

Having an appointment with a certain SP that ends up being a no show and no communication. The communication part was explained later and understood by me, but when trying to communicate back to reschedule, there is no reply back. SP's expect us to be respectful and they should. I think for the most part the true Hobbyists are respectful and understanding. So I only think it fair that SP's show the same respect towards us. My rant and NO this is not meant to offend any SP's or the one in question. I am actually still up for meeting with her anytime. I know sh--t happens and all of us have lives outside of this, it's just respect should go both ways! Cheers, MB

There are many nice ladies to choose from here on cerb, why then keep trying your luck with another site that you are not having a good track record with? I just ask this in the most sincere way, as I am forever seeing this type of thread from all kinds of hobbyist and really get confused why they simply dont choose someone from here, when you can clearly see cerb has the tools for you to use for your inquiry into a lady's reputation and such? If I went shopping for clothing at a store, and their cloths kept falling apart on me, then I will shop at a store at a that will sell me cloths that are quality made, good service and reputation of having better cloths.

1) worked 4th 14+ hour day in a row 2) then straight to rink to deep fry fries, onion rings, popcorn chicken, perogies etc... to healthify our kids ? 3) got home...showered, poured a nightcap...ahhhh relax :) phone rings and back to work I go :( 4) freezing rain out and Lee slips and slides right under his fucking truck !!!! 5) drove a rockin 50 km per hour all the way to my facility ....I don't like to drive slow !!! 6) got out of truck....fell down again :( 7) fixed problem but had to monitor so slept on office desk for 4 hours I now need a massage or bodyslide or some action or something :D

My dream vacation would be Japan. With one of the local escorts acting as the tour guide and companion while you are there. Japan Sex Tour (Sample Itinerary) - Tokyo, Atami, Mt. Fuji, Hakone, Kyoto, Nara, Gion, Shimabara, etc. Tokyo (2-3 days) - Tokyo tour. Visit Tsukiji fish market Tokyo central wholesale market handled (2, 888 ton a day) marine product. Then, transfer to Tokyo tower. Tokyo tower is highest tower in Japan, 13 m higher than Effel tower in Paris. Imperial Palace East Garden and Diet building Short photo stop at the outer garden. Brief drive through the front of the Diet building. Asakusa Kannon and Nakamise shopping Arcade. The oldest and most popular Buddhist temple in Tokyo. - Night tour: Japan's largest red light district features countless restaurants, bars, pachinko parlors, love hotels and a wide variety of red light establishments for both sexes and sexual orientations. Atami (1-2 day) - Atami, one of Japan's best-known traditional hot spring resort. In Japanese, Atami means "hot sea". This peculiar name comes from the fact that the hot spring water was thought to have originated from the sea. Enjoy a leisurely day at your ryokan. Your Japanese style room will be ready with all the essentials and nothing to distract you from utter relaxation, but you'll be welcomed beforehand with slippers at the door. Of course, you'll immerse yourself in the warm outside pools. And you'll note that some of the outdoor hot pools are for men or women only. Mt. Fuji - Hakone tour (1 day) Someone will pick you up in the morning, and before long, you'll be speeding past the suburbs and into the neatly tended countryside beyond. Mount Fuji with its perfect, snow-capped conical shape will hover into view, every more impressive as we approach. We'll continue right onto the slopes of Japan's highest mountain, and ascend to the halfway point at 2300 meters (7600 feet) for spectacular views of rolling fields, orchards, lakes, and streams. Afrer lunch at the Highland Resort, then continue with a relaxing cruise on Lake Ashi, and a breathtaking ride on the Mt. Komagatake aerial tramway. Kyoto - Nara- Gion - Shimabara (2-3 days) - Kyoto, the ancient capital of Japan, including the Golden Pavilion, Nijo Castle with its exquisite interiors, and the ancient Imperial Palace. - Nara, first capital of a united Japan. Highlights will include the Todaiji Temple with its huge Buddha; the 3000 lanterns of the Kasuga Shrine, and the Deer Park, where the animals are free to roam. - Gion is so-called "geisha district", the home to many geisha houses and traditional tea houses. Gion originally developed in the middle ages, in front of Yasaka Shrine. Gion is the best place in Japan to see geisha and maiko in the streets. - Shimabara is the "courtesan's district" (red light district) in Ancient Japan. It was established in 1640 for a brothel owned by Hara Saburoemon, and was closed in 1958, when prostitution was outlawed in Japan.

Saturday November 24th 2012 I sent Lovely Dorinda Bloom a note, it was "Bloom,Bloom,Bloom lets go back to your room" We both had a chuckle,and when she came back into Ottawa, I booked her right away for a 2 hour lovely session. I brought a bottle of white wine,and a skimpy outfit for Dorinda, (Maybe she will wear it for me next time or send me a picture...wink..wink ;) ) She was staying a upscale Hotel, and my'o'my Dorinda looked mighty fine when we first met :) after so long not seeing each other I was completely very impressed,in fact I said "How we both matured,and she looks fabulous". White wine was poured, and Dorinda decided to get changed into something very sexy and beautiful, nylon's,garters,beautiful bra to hold her delicious boobies, and of course the color, was her favourite "Eagles Green" ;) She looked ravishing! I was sitting in a big chair,she sat on my lap, we shared some small talk,wine and some very passionate kissing,which well...lead to me disrobing her and getting very acquainted with each other. We moved to the bed, and there was some very intense mutual passion shared for the next couple of hours. At one point I had to stop the long foreplay for her,as she got to that very sensitive stage ;) We made love in different positions and she really knew how to please me throughout our session. We talked after our session,had a shower together and smiles and laughs, we did some reminiscing of times we met before,and how great we get along,and I'm thankful for a friend like Dorinda she is a sweetheart in every sense. It was such a delight to see her again, and I won't wait that long again to see again. She is a special person,has matured,and really knows how to please her man. Thanks Dorinda! Xoxo

She's back now (saw her last Saturday) and working in the late evenings.

In dogspeak; "ARF ARF ARF" means the pizza doesn't agree with my tummy. Dogs can't pronounce the letter B.

As long as I have boobies I'm good. But oral...both giving and receiving.

in just 3 1/2 hours I will sit down with HR and turn in my company cards, keys, computer, blackberry and other misc stuff then I am off for a year or two of travel and fun before I decide what I want to be when I grow up ... first part of the plan will likely be driving around the USA and then Europe, Asia ... :)

There is no right or wrong way in how an SP decides to go about screening. Personally, I come from the old school way of doing things as well and at the end of the day, a reference just isn't enough for me since it can be a false sense of security imo. One experience with an SP may differ from the next with the same client. Instead, I prefer to go with my own instincts which have proven to serve me well. I will engage the potential customer in a phone call to gain some insight since I do not like booking by email which is too anonymous for me and I don't like booking days or weeks in advance. However, I don't fault others who do ask for references as a way of screening and am happy to provide them. Sharing info is always a good thing. Every SP does it their own way and we all have to respect that. If someone doesn't agree with it, there are plenty of other SPs around that have a different approach of rather than asking for references.

Bobby McFerrin - Don't Worry Be Happy !

With BP, you definitely have to use your instincts. Listen to how they talk to you and what kinds of questions they ask. You are swimming in a sea of people who haggle, bargin and want you ASAP. BP is comparable to a drive thru type restaurant. Fast, quick and easy. And while it's a gamble, callers hope the product and service is good but not always. If this is not the route you're looking to take in your business then I suggest you stick with other sites. For every 10 guys, you will find one or two good clients who won't haggle or want the world for $80. Stick to your guns on your rate structuring and once they start asking a laundry list of questions, you know they are shopping around. In other words, you have to train these guys to follow YOUR procedures. If they don't like it, too bad for them. This is YOUR life, your livelihood and your health and safety. Don't compromise it when you feel like you're under the gun with them. There are guys who will start asking for the address. Don't give it to them! Instead use one major intersection and get them to call you from there. And make sure you know they are there by asking how close by they are or if they are passing a certain store, etc. This way you know they are in the area. Before cell phones, many ladies would get the guy to call from a certain payphone so you would know they are in the area. Once you seem to get a handle on it, like Deeperconnection said, you can see how transparent some of those guys are. There are other guys from other sites who also use BP and are not the "I have $80 and want it all in a half hour." It really is a mixed bag and I can only equate to like being a waitress in a restaurant. From 11 am -1 Pm, you will have that rush of inquiries and that is the key time of day to make money. Start answering the inquiries but have a filter of what are willing and not willing to put up with. And don't let them browbeat you into haggling with them. Act like you are in control even if you are nervous. Your body, your rules. I've had a few weirdos get really rude and I call them on it. I don't let them intimidate me whatsoever and they take a hint and bugger off. If someone continually wastes your time, do a search on the number if you are a member of a bad date list. I don't keep numbers of clients but I do put the no shows, WOTS in my phone and I also do a search on the bad date list before booking a client. If they are in there, it's a no go. I won't waste my time or compromise my safety with someone who does this. BP can work for you but YOU have to be in control. The biggest thing is to trust your instincts because they are always right. If you don't get a good feeling, you are most likely right. The key with that site is you have to make it work for you even though the site has all different types of escorts and rates. Be in control of what you want and it will work for you. However, I will say that you will constantly be sifting through callers but getting that one gem client is often worth it. I've met a few really good clients off of BP. :)

I'm a little old school and don't require references but I gladly give them for guests if a lady requests it. If an SP choses to have a reference option, that is her decision alone; I respect that and cooperate fully. I agree with Emily, safety is paramount. References are an excellent tool, especially for travelling SPs who attract the less desirable hobbyists who have worn out their welcome with local SPs. I don't ask for them as I don't travel much and I prefer to trust my intuition and hands on homework when I book a new guest for an introduction. To each their own, I've enjoyed reading this thread. Posts always offer so much insight into people... cat

WOW! Your willing to risk another woman's safety for your own selfish reasoning. I don't know how you sleep at night... A reference is not doing another's homework or screening. It is plain and simple helping another SP stay safe. Your attitude and response sickens me. When I ask for a reference. I want to know you've seen him. That's it. I don't care what details you have about him unless he put you in danger. If the client contacts me, your not helping me get the client - he's already interested I don't know what bubble you live in but in today's society helping one another stay safe is more important than any amount of money. You should know even though you have a really wrong perception of what a reference is all about. One day after you have a potential bad date or wish to not be high volume and decide to screen that you will need ALL of us SPs you so badly think awful of for screening to vouch for you.... I'm so glad my life and safety means so little to you...

I hope you don't mind my asking but... I'm curious about this. I had always got the impression that most (if not all) SPs - or at least, the ones on CERB, who are the only ones I know much about - were fine with giving references, even if they didn't ask for references themselves. But you're the first person I can recall who's come out as saying that she wouldn't provide a reference if asked... and I'm afraid that makes you rare and exotic and deserving of further investigation :) What I don't get (possibly because I'm on the other side of the fence here) is why you characterize references as a wholly negative thing. I'm making an assumption here that you do your own screening and that you would prefer to avoid the time-wasters and those who may jeopardize your safety... but given this, isn't the collective experience of the SP community better than what any individual could hope to achieve alone? Yes, giving someone else a reference helps her to save time on screening, at a cost of perhaps a couple of minutes to you... but the flip-side of that is that being able to ask someone else for a reference similarly allows you to save the time you'd otherwise spend on screening. What I'm really asking here is: does opting out of the give-and-take of references completely actually save you time, in the long run? Sure, it's not always going to be perfectly even - I've heard SPs grouch about the fact that they're giving more references to another SP than they get in return. I'm just curious as to why you seem to be so thoroughly down on the whole thing. Is it really a zero-sum game?

I was down in Daytona Beach a few times for spring breaks during my youth, great place to party. I was down for the second time and was starting to get a little better at getting to know when I girl was interested or not. Unfortunately for me I was drinking quite a bit and this one girl came on to me several times during the week and I completely blew her off not realizing what she wanted. Lucky for me on my second last night there I snuck down to the beach after hours and she was just finishing up in the beach shower with a female friend of hers fooling around. She was a little embarrassed at first and saw who I was and asking what I was staring at after blowing her off several times that week. Being sober this time I quickly corrected my behavior with the lovely lady. Long story short her, her attractive friend, a secluded beach location, and nothing but time. If you've ever heard the expression " it's not about the size of the boat, it's about the motion of the ocean" let me tell you motion of the ocean definately a sexy feeling, don't have foreplay on a beach you get sand in places you didn't know you had :S All in All best and first 3- some I've had so far! Cheers

I am one of those newbies. I did decide I would like to see one of the SPs who asks for references. At this time I was not able to provide one. As others have mentioned the easiest thing to do is to contact the lady. I contacted her and we communicated back and forth for a bit. I do have an upcoming appointment. At no time was I jumping through hoops and have been having fun exchanging emails with the lady in question. I can't say that my experience with the SP I have been in contact with would be the same as ever other, however I would have to say I would respect each SPs desire to make sure their safety is assured. The assurance is not my choice or any other clients to assume, it is when they feel their safety is assured. I can understand what you are saying with this. A bunch of times I make a decision the day I wish to see an SP and go from their. Going through a process to provide a reference does not always fit into this time frame. I do think you would have had a different response from people if you hadn't used the wording "kick her to the curb", and just stated you choose to find one who does not require references.

Quite a few of us massage ladies offer duos together :)

Probably going to be criticized for this but I am really on the fence on the whole topic and the above statement is kind of the reason. Though I do believe every SP has the right to her own "procedures", I don't agree that they are better or lesser quality SP's than one another depending on if they pre-screen or not. I think a previous comment in regards to SP's who screen showing more interest in your pleasure was false and descriminative as I would describe myself as the type of SP who always gives 110% and am OCD about alot of things in my encounters; even though I do not pre-screen. However, if you need to screen clients, please do not ask for my help as I run my own business (my way) and am not willing to do pre-screening for other SP's. There is risk involved and I am not taking it for your profit. I am aware some people may not agree with my mentality but that's how I see it and you have a right to see it your way. That goes for clients too, If you don't want to jump through hoops, DON'T. Simple as that. If you don't mind the hoops, you may even find it was worth all the work. To each their own, I think that's what's important here. Happy hobbying! Additional Comments: It is always about YOUR comfort! If gentlemen don't want to undertake your pre-screening, then they aren't the gentlemen for you. ;)

Here's the drill. I'm normal.......my life is normal.......my SO is normal. However, the relationship died years ago. I struggled to revive it for quite some time, but it takes two to tango. The angst was just building up stress and rather than continue to make an issue of it, I moved on without moving out- for the same reasons as many others. Finally, after years, I had an affair.....then another. Big mistake. Although I was upfront with the other, someone invariably gets hurt in an affair and it truly sucks. I have as busy a life as most people, and relationships take an enormous amount of time I don't have or am unwilling to find. I still do not remember what brought me to CERB and escorts, but it has simplified my life, and for that I am eternally grateful to the ladies I have met. Ultimately, I will find one or two escorts with which to forge a working relationship and that will remove most of the last dangers of infidelity. Until the next chapter of my life begins to unfold I am convinced that this type of relationship is the glue that holds me together.

My nominations are Mary Jane, Kitty and Bridgette. Mary Jane: That sexy beautiful pair of boobs (my favorite, strawberry on cream), that absolutely beautiful undisputed best pale soft skin, those big beautiful blue eyes, that very friendly sweet personality, that very very sexy natural kitty, that beautiful face..... Ah she stopped dancing a few years ago. Best wishes to her, wherever she is and whoever she is with. My all time favorite. Kitty: That very cute face (as cute as a kitty), that sexy spinner body, the beautiful soft black hair, that absolutely friendly angelic personality, those lovely friendly eyes, that very sexy beautiful kitty ........... Bridgette Those sexy smiles, that beautiful sexy bum, that spinner body covered in soft pale skin, those sparkling blue eyes, that cute face, that nice very friendly personality........

Had a hard morning. Needed to relax. Hopeing to see Diabla (a beautiful bird told me she is back to Barbs) I went to Barbs because I can't go there Saturdays anymore. I knew she starts later in the day but hoping to see her or another pale brunette (Brigette, Kitty, Rosalinta ......) I knew if I come home I hit the sofa for rest of the day. Went directly to Barbs from work. Not only Diabla was not there also it was a whole blondie club. Everyone was a blonde!!!. Not a single pale brunette there this afternoon!!!!!. Had a few dances with a cute blondie by the name of Chelsea. Saw her on stage and like what I saw so I smiled at her wide virtually inviting her over. So she came to me and went to CR with her and yes enjoyed my time with her. Small body blue eyes, natural blonde, soft pale skin and open minded. Gents go to see her or she told me she will leave Ottawa soon as things has been quiet for her. The Jenny-Claire duo was another nice feature of the afternoon apart from dances with Chelsea. It was good at 2:00 pm when I got there but soon most people started leaving and it was very quiet again at 3:00 pm, so I left too!!.

My mum (age 73) has cancer. She had a mastectomy in October and will be starting radiation treatment this week. Even though we have never been close, I am worried for her. I call her every week to see how she is doing and let her know that I do care.

I think my life hasn't changed that much yet, but expect there will be incremental changes going forward as I continue to see the wholly amazing ladies of the biz - and fabulous they are! I don't see many new ones, and tend to repeat with a select few favourites. One of the best changes is feeling increased confidence and also being calmer and no longer frustrated when, as a single, feeling lonely and needing some TLC, knowing that there is a cure for that just a booking away! :) If truth be told, of course I knew of the industry, but never considered that it was for me, due to common, but quite inaccurate stereotypes. God only knows why that stopped me, but it worked. :icon_rolleyes: "Never too late...", and now I'm cured of the deception! At this time I'd like to thank mod and the CERB team for building this site that launched me into this lifestyle, and Google for allowing me to find it. :) I've since been blessed with many great encounters with very lovely people, and those of you that I've repeated with I'd like to call friends. Not that this covers it, but I offer a big 'Thanks!' to you all! FR

I might have griped about this before but wtf, people that spend 5 mins covering over their dogs poo with rocks or leaves when it would take seconds to bend over and pick it up in a poo bag!