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Cerb seams to be back to normal - Speed wise (Some new features have been added as I did a update to the software that runs cerb and it has some socialgroup features we did not have before) If anyone is getting any errors, seeing things missing or anything bad happening please PM me and let me know (Details please with links if possible) I am fixing the stuff as it is reported or found... lots of things were broken in the last 5 days that I have had to fix but it does look like we are back to at least 95% power / speed for page load times. (always room for improvement) Thank you all for baring with me I know the site has been very unstable for the last few days (So have I been! - Little sleep deprived)

To everyone here. Over the past weeks I've posted about my dad's cancer. I have received in many PM's, comments, posts etc words of sympathy and support. I just wanted to say thank you all for your support. It really is appreciated This board is much more than an escort board, it truly is a community Again to all of you out in CERBLand, your collective support is appreciated more than you know Thank you RG

A pigeon just flew into me... literally.

And that is where you will be absolutely and completely wrong. It is far harder for a young 20's guy to get an appt with a higher rate escort (who are actually usually mid 20's and up, i think) than it is for a guy 35 and up. i could probably provide links to a half dozen sps thinking off the top of my head with minimum age requirements that you don't meet. You are falling into that 'I'm young therefore I'm more desireable' trap that affects many of the younger guys. In fact it is such a syndrome that even lower rate sps have minimum age requirements, lol. I think maybe read in the general area the section "New to This" and you will get a pretty great idea about what is and is not attractive to sps. In the US, many escorts charge higher rates, sometimes because they are out of an agency, and often because it is just so highly illegal sometimes just having a super high rate helps reduce the chance they will see LE. And even then, they are more likely to need references and have minimum age requirements lol. You can definitely try Toronto, but you can't just wait until you are in Toronto, you have to do some searching now, contact the sps, provide the information they want from you to screen you, and then wait to be selected (or not). This is not a pickup joint or bar, and what works for someone in that situation is quite different. It is a fairly common misconception that the clients only have to show up with cash to get whatever they want. Read the recommendation section, and the advertisements, and the websites, and especially the Etiquette pages on websites. You are a university student so I expect you to know how to do proper research and studying before you 'take a test' of contacting an sp lol.

I know some of this has been covered here already, and I just posted this to the other board also, but I thought it could be a useful reminder here too. Knowledge is power (and health!) :) ______________ As part of some New Years resolutions, some people are thinking about their health and taking it more seriously. Well, sexual health is a very important part of that, and something that should be taken seriously all year round :) Getting tested is very important for hobbyists too! Many of the most common STI's (particularly in men) have no symptoms!! Treatment for the most common STI's is usually quite simple and effective, often with one dose of antibiotic. Left untreated can lead to serious complications. The Ottawa Sexual Health Centre is THE BEST place to go for this because this is their area of speciality and they will order all the proper testing. You need: urine samples, blood tests and throat swabs to be given a complete sexual bill of health. The Sexual Health Centre's testing is anonymous, you don't have to give your real name, and you do not need to provide a health card. There are different ways to get your results, but generally you give a phone number and if they don't call you, your tests have not shown any problems. (No news is good news!) The Sexual Health Centre has more than one location, as they offer satellite clinics throughout the city on various days of the week. Locations and hours here: http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/public...-health-centre For example, I always go to the Barrhaven clinic, I get there right when they open at 2:30, and I have never had to wait more than 10 minutes to see the nurse. If you are worried about discretion this is perfect, because they host the clinic within another regular Health Clinic (so you could be there for any number of things). To make it eve more discreet, you can go to a location in a different part of the city than where you live/work. The nurses at these clinics are very friendly, non-judgemental, knowledgeable on sexual health, and are happy to answer any questions you may have. I recommend the Ottawa Sexual Health Clinic above a regular health clinic or your family doctor, because they know all the exact testing you need and specialize in this area. For your own sake, and the benefit of the Escort/Hobbyist community, Please get tested regularly! :biggrin: Thank you!

If you want to be totally in the laws, not in the grey zone, stick to outcall (have the SP visit you to your home or hotel) and stick to reputable ladies on Cerb

Just wanted to say that I know what you're going through, having lost a parent to cancer myself. I'll keep you in my prayers, RG

Well okay, following your example, I'll give this one more shot too. ;) The question is straightforward. There's no point looking for a less value-laden term, because the whole question is about the moral choice the decision represents (or doesn't, if your answer is "no"). And sure, because we can all agree that cheating is objectively bad, saying "yes it's cheating" really does mean saying "yes, that act is bad". But that's not the end of the story. Saying "you're doing something bad" is NOT the same thing as saying "you're a bad person". And that's the most interesting part of this whole discussion: when can a good person decide that cheating in some form is their best option? And we know from this thread and others that there are lots of ways someone can understandably arrive at that decision. Personally I just can't follow the "it's not cheating and here's why" arguments; that's why I said in my first post that they're all just convoluted rationalizations to me. It seems to deny the risks involved, and I think it shrinks away from the reality of the situation. But on the other hand, I'm right on board with someone who can say "yes, I know it's cheating, and yet I've made the decision it's overall the best course of action for my circumstances." You can make that decision with open eyes and still be a responsible adult. There's probably an interesting human story there, that can teach you something about how real grown-up lives can go. It's life, and it's more complicated than we thought when we were twelve.

Seeing a project that has been over a year in the making finally coming to a conclusion. It will be a very good feeling to see the finished product. Porthos

Realizing your almost 4 mo. old puppy is probably going to be way too smart for you. I took the boys out this afternoon, and when I brought them back in, the old beagle was dawdling. I was on the back porch with the back door to the kitchen closed. When I turned around, the puppy had his paws wrapped around the back door knob and was making motions like he was trying to turn it. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Thank god for bread machines! I think I should learn how to make breads without yeast. I get a stomach lump with yeast & white sugars. Not bad for a first attempt if I do say so m'self. Confidence builder.

From my point of view this just sounds unprofessional, regardless of her relationship status.

I have moved it

Solicitation in the context of prostitution law means communication in a public place. The courts have ruled that private communication is excluded. Defining public versus private communication is dependant upon the means of communication and/or the place where the communication takes place. Offering, discussing or negotiating compensation (financial or otherwise) in a public place (street, park, bar, hotel lobby etc) is solicitation. It doesn't matter that only two people are participating in the discussion and that no one else hears or observes the discussion. The communication is occurring in a public place. E-mail, snail mail, texting, phone, skype, talking in your home or a hotel room are all private communications. Offering, discussing or negotiating compensation for sex in these situations is legal. These communications are all taking place in private spaces or are communications to which only the particpants have legal access. It's possible that the privacy of these communications may be violated by a third party, but that doesn't make them public communication (i.e solicitation). It just means that the third party has violated your privacy, which depending upon the facts can be a criminal offence. Communication involving more than two people (e.g. negotiatiatung a threesome or an orgy :-)) is still private communication. It doesn't matter how many people participate in the communication. What matters for the purposes of solicitation is how and where the communication occurs. So, communicating by privately by e-mail (legal) and then meeting in public without any further discussion of compensation (legal) is not a problem. I've never heard of the police action which was described as taking place in Halifax. There may be more to it. This tactic has been used to arrest men who have been seeking underage girls, for free or paid sex. If it involved adults it sounds like entrapment, which is an illegal police tactic and would explain why there haven't been any similar cases.

New lululemon yoga pants :D Who's got a fabulous ass in those pants? This girl! :D

Bon matin messieurs Hope you all had a wonderful week-end and you are ready for another week ;) As I mentionned earlier this month, I am no longer working for Angel`s touch. For many personal reasons, I`ve decided to start 2013 with new projects in mind. BUT I will be available ON APPOINTEMENTS ONLY for my regulars or for customers I have already met in a discreet location. Monday from 10 am until 7pm Tuesday from 10 am until 4pm Thursday from 9 am until 5pm Friday from 9am until 3pm For more infos on rates, services or on the "where about" you are welcome to pm me, or call at 613-297-8984 (please do not leave any voice message) ALSO, duo available with my girlfriend MADISON hope to see you soon ;) bonne journée les gourmands

OK, weighing in again... hopefully sounding a bit less defensive this time. ;) I just wanted to point out that the question by its very nature is asking for a judgment based on ones own morality and opinion. It is the very point of this type of question: Does "objective description of action" fit "negative label"? Is a lawyer who misleads or omits in order to defend his client a liar? Is a doctor who helps a suffering patient to die a murderer? I point this out as many have stated that this would be an OK discussion if the word cheater didn't have such negative connotations. I submit that it was chosen because it does. There would be no reason for the discussion if it did not come with such baggage, as we already have an objective description of the activity. "Does a married man having sex with an sp qualify as a married man having sex with an sp?" does not make a lot of sense as a question without the intension of some type of moral judgment. Does this mean that we should not discuss it? No I don't believe that any topic should be off limits if everyone is respectful. We should all be aware however that this question by it's very nature is one of judgment and morals. We should be mindful of this, especially on a board such as this. Just my thoughts. (Again). ;)

Just want to post a quick note of thanks to Madison Sparks and Goombata for the toughtful and generous advice. I have tried numerous times to post and respond to PMs with lengthy messages and I have been booted off the server too many times, (lol). Anyway, this is great advice from both of you, and again, many thanks! xo

Rosca de reyes and yummy hot chocolate.

67 posts....Phew !! Lots of reading ! Nah I am not a cheater.... I am receiving naked therapy designed for a sexually neglected married fella. Besides it is good for the Mojo ;)

I have been to Barefax a few times this holday season. I was actually there during their Christmas party/ Cusomter appreciation day. I would highly recommend these dancers of which I have had very INTIMATE and WONDERFUL encounters with. This is NOT In any particular order: 1. LAYLA , very slim, PRETTY and lovely Italian/Canadian BLONDIE :) 2. ASHLEY - another very very GORGEOUS Blonde with a very very Angelic Face 3. KIRSTEN - a very slim, pretty and innocent looking Blonde. (Yeah its obvious that I LOVE Blondes, eh! :) lol ) 4. LIZA- a very very sexy and nau ghty brunnette . Always carries a pretty smile 5.SALLY- No explanations nor introductions needed!!! LOL ( Mi Amiga Senorita Bonita!) 6. TRACIE- very veyr sensual, slim and loves to dance latin dances. Currently outof the fax OK,..I may post some other info on other girls in the near future :)

For those of you who I haven't yet had the pleasure of meeting, my name is Bridgette and I'm an exotic dancer at Barbarella's. While I am certainly not a big fan of the cold winter days ahead, I sure know how to heat things up and turn the Champagne Room into our very own winter getaway. We can get to know each other or reconnect over drinks and sexy stage shows before ducking into our winter hideout. While you sit back and make yourself comfortable in a plush leather seat, I'll heat things up by getting close and sensual. My soft porcelain skin may be as white as snow, but it will be warm under your fingertips as you caress me. As I curl up in your lap and we share eskimo kisses under the cover of my long auburn hair, you'll forget all about the cold outdoors. Then, when my long auburn hair brushes up against your face, the rest of the room will simply disappear. I am currently engaged in an internship, so you can only find me at Barbarella's on Saturday afternoons from 1:30PM until 7:00PM. I'm rarely in a rush to leave, so if you'd like to see me a bit later in the evening, don't be shy about shooting me a PM. If you prefer to enjoy an unrushed experience without having to count songs, I can offer you my undivided attention for one hour at $300, with other blocks of time also possible. Please note that I am strictly a club dancer and do not offer encounters outside the club.

Was busy on Friday and didn't check the mail until today and there was a lingerie package in there from when I ordered a few weeks ago. Really sexy!

So, to attempt to take this discussion to greener pastures... I don't think there's a lot more to be said on the original question. However, it gives rise to two more. Firstly: is it cheating more to have sex with an escort as opposed to someone else? Or, to rephrase, does the exchange of money affect the morality of what you're doing, and if so, how? It strikes me that it probably shouldn't make a difference, provided that money was genuinely free to be spent on recreational activities... but it also strikes me that much of society would disagree, even if they might struggle to put their collective finger on precisely why. Second (and one which others have talked about already), assuming someone is seeing SPs and doing so behind their SO's back: how does that rate, ethically? The idea that a relationship should be ended in toto simply because one party wants something sexually that the other can't or won't provide strikes me as sounding terribly harsh, even without considering the impact on others of a full-on schism. There's more to a relationship than sex, despite the importance of sex. A discreet dalliance on the side (even with a different SP every week) may not be the best situation possible, but I can think of far worse things; we've all been through break-ups, and we all know they suck - and that's before you get to the acrimonious divorce with kids involved. So it seems to me that if we're going to consider relationships that fail because one person finds out that the other has been sleeping with someone else, we should also weigh in the balance all those relationships that have been preserved because someone who wasn't getting what they needed managed to find some other means of doing so, and by means of such a safety-valve the entire relationship was saved from being blown into tiny bits because there was no other way than to end it. And I think that SPs have a hugely valuable function in this regard; when we see SPs we can do so knowing that we won't have to call them afterwards, or otherwise carry on potentially risky communications when it may not be convenient to do so, and we can rest safe in the sure and certain knowledge that no SP will suddenly demand that we leave our existing relationship and all that goes with it for her. How many people have had their long-term relationships fall victim to an affair that was fine until it turned sour? I have no idea, but I'm sure there's an awful lot.

Yeah... that's great if group owners remember to do it before they leave :) The problem, alas, is that I suspect that frequently won't happen, and for many it's already too late. One other thing which I've just discovered and I'm very happy about - you can now subscribe to the discussions within the groups, so you get notifications when they've been updated (and you can also, by implication, skip groups where there's nothing new). Which is awesome.

I can see why so many gents really love Jenny. I am personaly myself not into blondes (as most know my taste is pale brunette) but she is a very attractive classy lady and with a very kind friendly personality. She was dancing for me 6-7 years ago when she started (and she was very pale then so the reason) but not in recent years though still she says hi to me everytime she sees me and on one ocassion even came forward to kiss. Very nice attractive young lady. I was surprised to see her not in the CR for most of the afternoon as obviously her usual admirers were absent yesterday (and I remember reading in post after post that it is hard to find her free to go to CR with) so as the reason for why I posted what I posted.

Really can't do anything but echo the good advice the OP has received in this thread. Don't equate donation rate with service and don't equate youth with desirability. Donation rates are as much about defining the nature of a SPs client base, rather than the nature of the service provided. And exclusivity only lasts for the period of time you have booked. Make sure you understand how the time you book will be spent. If you book 2 plus hours, it won't be spent in non-stop sexual activity. There will be lots of talking, enjoying a glass of wine, snuggling, etc. In short, even if you book a PSE it won't be like a porno ... where scenes go on forever and no one ever takes a break. Many SPs will be leary of a young fellow with too much money to burn. Expectations are too likely to be out of line with the reality of the situation. Porthos

Echoing what fortunateone said, don't fall into the belief that being young athletic, thinking you look like you should be on the cover of GQ is the way to see a companion. For guys, irrespective of how young they are and how they look (or how they think they look) and that they have the needed donation, don't for one second think this entitles you to see a professional companion. The lady chooses who she will see, and qualities like being a gentleman, maturity, willingness to be (and passing) verification, are far more important than being young and thinking you are good looking A quick two cents from a balding greying haired man in his early 50's who doesn't have a porsche, but a beat up old pick up, but has had many wonderful memorable encounters with ladies...ladies who have enriched my life and I am better for knowing them RG

The OP definitely got it on the head with his post. I had never used an escort service or seen an escort ever for that matter, and Macy did a wonderful job at making me feel very at ease. She's very sweet and easy to talk with. She has a great sense of humor and a nice warming laugh/smile combo. I will definitely see her again!

Actually this is a good point. I wasn't sure about the origin of the word pussy or kitty. Have you seen a shaven kitty. It is not very pretty lol, if you don't believe me see below and judge which one you prefer lol. Shaven kitty (the second diagram) or natural kitty? A natural kitty (Au Naturel) a shaved one

Cheating, not cheating. Why does it matter? I find the some of the implicit and explicit moral judgments implied in the word "cheating" simply not appropriate for this board. We don't pass judgements on people's sexual preferences, so I'm not sure why it sometimes seems as if we do around marital status. Yes, in an ideal world it would be great if I could tell my wife. But I'm afraid I simply don't live in that world. So yes, its cheating, being unfaithful, running around behind her back .... all of those things! Absolutely. But, please, leave judgements aside. I've been with my wife for 25 years. And yes, I see SPs ... but that doesn't mean I need to be told about fidelity, for in so many other ways I am faithful, loyal, trustworthy, dependable, and everything society (and my wife) demands of me, and wants from me, as a husband. Porthos

The "All groups" page seems to be what you want. On the main groups page, it has a link at the bottom-right of the "random group" that pops up. What I really don't like at the moment is that groups now have an icon, and if a group doesn't have an icon then that space will be taken up by some of the text of the group description, which makes the pages messy as hell and means the group names don't stand out. But this can be solved by having group owners add icons to the groups they own... Also: groups can now be put into categories, but there aren't any categories yet and I didn't see a link to add them, so presumably this is something Mod would have to do. Mod, any chance of doing that when you have a sec? It'd presumably make navigating the groups easier...

Maurice Sendak's thoughts on getting old and dying. Worth five minutes of your time...

As already stated here several times, she's long retired. And, if by chance she still sees "select clients", if you have to ask, she obviously wouldn't see you anyway.

Well stated comments on natural kitties. Such an enormous pleasure to remove a thin see through white panty very slowly and seeing the hidden treasure (a soft beautiful hairy kitty) appearing slowly (I too getting hard just thinking about it) and pushing the sexy hairs gently to the side and go where no man has gone before. Damn Playboy who screwed it up for those of us who adore natural kitties in early 80'just when I came to age. I very rarely encountered such enormous pleasure as it is harder than a gold mine to discover among Caucasian young ladies these days (fully natural). Oh yes I think we are overdue (not just about the time) to go back to the good old days (which I never saw lol. I will be cursing Playboy forever). We have our own group of more than 50 strong (increasing every day) natural kitty lovers and since we post lovely sexy nude pictures of beautiful natural ladies it is a private group and by invite only. Thanks Emily for mentioning that.

I may have mis-read this but I'm not sure how exclusivity and a one-time event reconcile. In any event, since money isn't an issue. I would expand my search and look at ladies from other cities. You can fly them to you or work it out that you meet together. I've seen ladies who receive $1K plus for 2 hrs and up. They do exist and can be more readily found in places like Toronto, New York, LA, Miami, etc.. Just another option to consider but as has been already started $ doesn't always equate to service or more importantly 'connection'. Best of luck.

Hmmmmmm...... Your looking for the most expensive and exclusive..... ever considered marriage? ;-)

Be careful what you wish for Jimmy. All sp's are exclusive. Remember, they get to choose who they see. Yes, everyone has bills to pay, but women in this industry generally and cerb in particular, don't have to see just anybody. While they offer a girlfriend experience, as one woman said to me she's hoping for a boyfriend experience too! So what does that mean? It starts with respect, being considerate, very, very clean and hopefully there's some chemistry (personal and sexual) that allows you to both click. This is why most women choose to see older men. It doesn't start with how much money you have to spend or how young and good looking you are. As for rates, despite all the discussion this topic can generate, most of the women charge within a similar price range per hour give or take $50-100. The primary difference you'll see with respect to pricing is whether a minimum amount of time is specified. Some will allow half hour appointments while others require a minimum 2-3 hours. Yes, the 2-3 hour appointment costs more, but is generally similar with respect to hourly rate. Why the minimum? There can be a variety of reasons. Some women have other sources of income and this approach works best for their schedules and financial needs. Others prefer sufficient time to make a more personal connection. It can be a difficult business and this is how it works best for some women. In other cases the woman may have a graduate degree, be well travelled or multilingual and is therefore able to easily maneuver through the subtleties of various social and business functions. You're paying for that service as well. If you're curious you can see advertisements and reviews for these women in larger cities such as Toronto or Vancouver. My advise is similar to other posters. Choose someone that you think you're attracted to and that you think you might click with. Forget about "the most expensive and exclusive". You're not choosing different models of cars or designers ("Tell me who's the Lamborghini or Armani of service providers"). It's more personal for both of you than that and remember, you're part of the equation, so you should bring something to the table in addition to money. Good luck.

Lets take a road trip. We can split the gas....lol

Claire Heavens, MiaBella, SinCindy, Alexxxis, Emily J, Taylor Monroe Kianna, ..... And so much more!

While I can't say that I am lucky enough to have long and graceful legs like many of these lovely ladies, I have long accepted what I have and have recently grown a bit of an affinity for various socks and stockings. My style naturally leans heavily towards the cute/playful side... :biggrin:

After years of being a MA and having the opportunity to work in so many great MPs, I would like to announce that I am now moving on independently as an elite adult companion. The time has come for me to be able to provide a more sophisticated and intimate service to my clientele, those who know me as an MA and those who I am anticipating to meet as an adult companion. I cannot do this without thanking the owners and operators of the spas I have had the pleasure of working in; your constant support has not gone unappreciated. I learned and prospered from each unique experience. Starting Monday December 17 I will be available independently for the following sessions: 1 hour massage $180 90 min massage $240 2 hour massage $300 I am offering a $20 discount on my hour massage sessions for the holidays.

Actually it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be..and they reprised it on SNL at the end of the show. Actually pretty decent. Who'd a thunk it?

When a client comes to visit me, I always insist that he shower before anything serious happens, and while he's in the bathroom, I tell him to hang his clothes on the hooks on the back of the door. If he leaves anything in the living room (such as his phone or wallet) I ask him to bring everything into the bathroom with him, and leave it on the counter or in his pockets. When he emerges from the bathroom wearing nothing more than a towel, I'm already in the bedroom waiting for him, and for the duration of the session, I never enter the bathroom until after he's showered and left. Simply put, I will never allow myself to be in any situation where I can be accused of theft. Nobody has ever suggested this, but I make sure that it's flat-out impossible for someone to make such an accusation. By ensuring I'm never alone with the gentleman's things, and ensuring he's put his belongings in a place where he can retrieve them immediately, I never have to be concerned about any awkward situations, and more importantly, I make sure that no gentleman ever forgets any of his belongings at my place. Whether it's a phone, wallet or wedding ring, if you brought it with you, then you're leaving with it - no exceptions. Sadly, the stereotypes of both clients and sex workers only serve to harm our interactions, and often place us in a position where trust is limited and suspicion is common. How ironic that an interaction requiring such a deep amount of discretion and trust on one level, is so lacking on another... Simply put, I use this method to ensure there's no way for anyone to ever suspect me of bad behaviour, just by ensuring there's never any opportunity. Much like Cat's use of her little box, my bathroom hooks give both my clients and myself the peace of mind of knowing we're both here for the right reasons, and any concerns we might have regarding each other's honesty are eliminated before they can arise. :)

"Would you be exclusive to me in exchange ____$ monthly allowance" I got this one a few times and my answer has always been the same: A cage, even made of gold, still remains a cage!

About a week ago I had my second visit with this full figured cutie since her return to the lifestyle and indulged in yet another serving of her mind blowing Royal All Oral treatment. I can't really add much to my last recommendation of her or to the reco's by the other gentlemen here. But suffice to say, her tagline "red on the head means fire in the bed" couldn't be truer. This is one lady who definitely knows how to crank up the heat! Thanks again for an awesome time, sweetness (and sorry about the mess I made.......ahhh who am I kidding?....I'm really not all that sorry about the mess!...hehehe ;) )

I suspended access to the shout box to new UNMODERATED members at this time. The reason for this is we have a few people who get banned and come back with a new moderated account and are still able to post in the shoutbox (ads or crap no one wants on cerb) so the only way to stop this is to disable the shoutbox to new MODERATED members. Once a member has been on cerb for 5 days and has at least 5 posts the shout box will open for them to post. This is a good incentive to post too!

Annessa2009:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: gorgeous good friend!yummy too!

Excellent thread! I have seen situations where wallets are compromised and that is bad for everyone. I suggest that wallets are left in the car along with cell phones and handhelds. Have the consideration in an envelope and if you can swing by the bank and bring large bills all the better. A glance will count it without it being obvious. Guests who come to see me are asked to put all watches and gizmos in the "box" situated at the front door to ensure we are not interrupted. When they leave the envelope is switched for their belongings in the box. Catherine P.S. Do not think that having no ID will deter LE. They will hold you until you produce some! They have all the time in the world to outwait you.