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Do not tell her. It would be cruel to do that while she is ill.

I thought I would just add another thing to this thread. If gents here in Canada think that going through a "ringer" "hoops" etc etc for reference checks, try seeking a SP in the USA. Just wait until you see their method of checking clients, and than report back here in Canada, where some ladies just ask for a couple of references, there is absolutely no comparison.

I'm throwing this out there cause I don't know what to do. I am currently married 5 years been together for 15years now we were highschool sweethearts, we were each others first. My wife is ill and has been for the last 2 years. We don't know what it is if its curable permanent or if she is dying. All i now that its killing me to watch her suffer and it hasn't gotten better. Now we are no longer intament, sleep in different rooms we don't even cuddle. My dilemma is, do i crush her heart and tell I see sp to satisfy my needs, probably end our marriage, or do I keep it my secret to save her the pain and continue seeing sp? What would u do if you were me? If u were my wife would u want to now? Any advice?

I know some of this has been covered here already, and I just posted this to the other board also, but I thought it could be a useful reminder here too. Knowledge is power (and health!) :) ______________ As part of some New Years resolutions, some people are thinking about their health and taking it more seriously. Well, sexual health is a very important part of that, and something that should be taken seriously all year round :) Getting tested is very important for hobbyists too! Many of the most common STI's (particularly in men) have no symptoms!! Treatment for the most common STI's is usually quite simple and effective, often with one dose of antibiotic. Left untreated can lead to serious complications. The Ottawa Sexual Health Centre is THE BEST place to go for this because this is their area of speciality and they will order all the proper testing. You need: urine samples, blood tests and throat swabs to be given a complete sexual bill of health. The Sexual Health Centre's testing is anonymous, you don't have to give your real name, and you do not need to provide a health card. There are different ways to get your results, but generally you give a phone number and if they don't call you, your tests have not shown any problems. (No news is good news!) The Sexual Health Centre has more than one location, as they offer satellite clinics throughout the city on various days of the week. Locations and hours here: http://ottawa.ca/en/residents/public...-health-centre For example, I always go to the Barrhaven clinic, I get there right when they open at 2:30, and I have never had to wait more than 10 minutes to see the nurse. If you are worried about discretion this is perfect, because they host the clinic within another regular Health Clinic (so you could be there for any number of things). To make it eve more discreet, you can go to a location in a different part of the city than where you live/work. The nurses at these clinics are very friendly, non-judgemental, knowledgeable on sexual health, and are happy to answer any questions you may have. I recommend the Ottawa Sexual Health Clinic above a regular health clinic or your family doctor, because they know all the exact testing you need and specialize in this area. For your own sake, and the benefit of the Escort/Hobbyist community, Please get tested regularly! :biggrin: Thank you!

If she takes offence or refuses, walk out the door... Fast! Additional Comments: It doesn't matter what your purpose was in posting. You have a responsibility now and you know it. The legal age to be a prostitute is 18. Look, I understand that when we were young we all made various poor choices. Choosing to be involved in prostitution is a choice that should be made with some maturity. Regardless of what age we believe someone really becomes mature, I think someone less than 18 is too immature to make this choice.

Well worth the risk for all gentlemen if they have doubts about her age as opposed to taking a chance and engaging in sexual activities with an underage young lady.

Exchange of money for sex is illegal in the US whereas it is legal in Canada. There are therefore sting operations routinely carried out in the US by LE there and that explains the likely reason for providers in the US being stricter on reference checks. That said I am all for it. As I have said before I fully understand reference checks as a lady takes enormous risks coming to a total stranger's home (or accepting him in her home or being alone in a hotel room) so they are entitled to asking for references. Besides I don't see any reason for not providing it or being reluctant to provide one if one has one to provide!!.

It is understandable that you need to relieve your stress physically and emotionally, do that. But keeping it to yourself is probably the best thing for both of you-for now anyways. I would suggest that you Do Not tell her, she needs all her stength to get well and to cope with her illness. Since healing is as much about the mind as it is the body, the less stress the better. As women we have a strong sense of intuition, she may already know or assume you are having your needs met so stop feeling guilty love her the best you can, stay strong. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.

Emily J and I are both trying to share videos online with members of the very special oral loving group... I had used tinypic.com but the links never last as nudity/pornographic content is against the user agreement. Can anyone confirm if tumblr.com is suitable? If not, help us find a suitable uploading site that is BBBJ-friendly, please!

Welcome to Ottawa, your best bet is to avoid any of the motels, they are more trouble than their discounted prices are worth and as you've discovered most gents wont visit those venues. If you stay within the Downtown Core you're pretty safe , here's a few nice spots that are SP friendly Albert at Bay Suites , great deals on expedia Minto Suites The National Hotel Radison on Queen The Marriot Kent @ Queen Indigo Cartier Suites Journeys End King Edward/ Rideau In the West End There's the Holiday Inn Kanata Holiday Inn Bells Corners Days Inn Bells Corners Travel Lodge Carling/ Kirkwood Definit avoids include anything on Montreal Road Days Inn Rideau Extended Stay Econo Lodge on Rideau Richmond Plaza on Richmond Road Webbs on Carling Avenue Sadde International Inn on Bank St if all else fails you're welcome to sleep over at my place, lol :)

you should be more concerned about her if she is underage...as far as hobbyists seeing her, they are adults who are usually of sound mind to make their own decisions and deal with the results. Though one should definitely be concerned for both, I think you have your priorities backwards.

I am truly sorry to hear about this. :( I believe you are going about this the right way. I personally can't imagine a better reason to go see an SP than the reason you just explained. You are there for your wife in every way you can be in a difficult situation. One of those times IMO when silence in regards to your SP involvement would be in the best interest of everyone involved. Good luck and hopefully your wife recovers and life goes on happily for you two !

I'm an advocate of the flu shot, but everyone gets to make their own choice. I'd just throw this into the mix: the flu shot doesn't try to make you clean, it actually makes you dirty on purpose.(1) It contains the actual virus (or parts thereof) in order to make your body stronger, not weaker. The virus you get in the shot is dead, so your body gets to learn what it looks like without the virus trying to kill you. And then your body will react faster next time you're exposed. It's the same process that would happen in nature if you simply were exposed to the living virus; your body learns its shape and you overcome it, left stronger for next time. But it's controlled. As Jesse Pinkman would say: Yeah science! (1) And now some community-targeted advocacy: C'mon -- who on this board can turn down a chance to get dirty on purpose!?!? And I mean that deep-down, it-runs-in-your-veins kind of dirty that's worth paying some money for. And you get the shot from a nurse. Who's making you dirty! So she must be a naughty nurse! Etc. etc.

I am a non believer in it, the one year I had it I ended up with pneumonia not once but twice. I will never get it again and am against it. We never had vaccines for the flu or pneumonia when we were kids and we were fine, you need some germs to build your immune system and the flu shot to me is just like a light cover, it wont prevent anything, just prolong the inevitable of eventually getting sick. PLus has anyone ever thought of what the long term effects maybe - every drug or immune altering thing has a long term effect. Why put anything else into your body when in this day and age we take in more than we did 20 years ago. Get your rest, drink water, eat healthy, wash your hands and for gads sake cover your mouth when you cough. I say use at your own risk.

Yes, tumblr is the perfect solution for your group, you won't be able to embed the clips, or hot link from tumblr but you can provide direct links to your clips that are hosted on their site.

As posted elsewhere I am a strong proponent of the flu shot. I read only yesterday that it is still not too late to get one for it to be effective and that this years shot is well matched with the virus that is on the go. Wash hands, wash hands, wash hands, but the shot is your personal protection.

I have to agree with the other posters here. Telling her will only cause her pain and grief at a time when she needs it the least. I don't think anyone here would judge you for the decisions you have made to satisfy your own needs and maintain your own healthy state of mind, (we're a pretty understanding lot here) but for her sake, keep this one under your hat. She needs you with her now.

Check out the new updates and contributions in the Oral Lovers group! Maybe even possibly some naughty video clips from some of our sexy CERB ladies! ;) Meow! :icon_wink:

I am new and excited about massage I want to make you feel good I want to make you excited then help you relax ;) I offer a relaxing sexy massage very sensual body slides front and back that will heat things up. A very bubbley shower that will make you feel like a king. Let me help you relax and put a smile on your face!! Check out my new pictures http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=6421 My schedule for the week Satuday January 12, 10AM - 4PM Sunday January 13, 10AM - 9PM Wednesday January 16, 3:30PM - 11PM Thursday January 17, 2:30PM - 11PM Sunday January 20, 3:30 - 9PM I'm 5'4, big blue eyes, tattooed brunette You can find me at Angel's Touch 613-274-7073 or PM me! Singles and couples welcome! and of course Duo's offered! Can't wait to see you!!

I think that one thing to keep in mind is that most providers who ask for a reference also have alternative screening methods if a reference isn't possible. So it's not quite the roadblock some have made it out to be. I would also say that it is not the case that providers who ask for a reference are not also paying attention to tone, manner, wording, etc. I do not believe most SPs substitute a reference for their own impressions, so I find it odd that it's presented as though there's this dichotomy - either she uses her gut or gets a reference. A reference isn't an excuse not to think for yourself. I'm sure most girls know that. But as to why they would be requested at all, I think that a very good explanation has been given already for why travelling providers use them, but I would also point out that references can be very helpful to someone new to the industry. It's fine to say that we can go by our gut alone, but generally it takes some experience to hone our instinct. Instinct is not some magical talent that some people have, it's not a sixth sense. It is data gathering and pattern recognition most of the time. It takes time to gather enough data to start spotting patterns and figuring out what sounds like a time-waster and who sounds like bad news. We've all interacted with people all our lives so we don't come at this with no data. But for most girls this is still a new way of interacting with people so they need time to learn. In the meantime, references are a second opinion that can help you figure out if your impressions are correct or not. I know that some people are proponents of the school of hard-knocks, but I think in this business the knocks can be pretty hard. For those who are not so new that continue to ask for references, I would simply say why not, if it has always worked for them? For many gentleman, obviously, it is not seen a hoop to jump through so there is no particular reason for them to change a working model. And, as I mentioned, most will offer to screen by more old-school methods if a reference isn't available. But honestly, the whole debate about references only applies to providers who do advance bookings. I don't see how a provider who takes short-notice bookings could ever be expected to contact and hear back from a reference in time. So I think there are just as many valid arguments to be made for not using a reference. I don't think anyone should be judged for using references, as though they are failing to use their own good sense and are making clients jump through hoops, nor do I believe it's ever fair to insinuate that a provider who doesn't require them is being reckless. I also believe that there are reasons a provider would choose not to give references as a policy. I won't go into them in detail, some have been mentioned, but I don't think it's really necessary to defend. CERB is very positive and I love that things can be discussed and debated but I get a bit frustrated, or maybe dismayed, to see people put down for their preferred (and effective) methods of screening a client.

Most legitimate SPs do not accept bookings from payphones unless they already know the client or the client has called first from his home landline and then calls when he's close by because he has no cell phone. Calling from a payphone is the same thing as calling from a blocked number. You have no idea who you are dealing with and risk being stood up by someone who has your address, but you have no information about them. There is no security in simply having an email address or even cerb handle without a telephone number. I for one require a call back number which is the minimum safety screening requirements, considering I do not ask for references.

I woke up this morning to the Beautiful sunshine here in Fredericton. It instantly put me in a cheerful mood to feel the warmth on my skin :) will definitely be a good day for a walk. I hope everyone gets out and takes advantage of the good weather while we have it :)

"There is something beautiful about all scars of whatever nature. A scar means the hurt is over, the wound is closed and healed, done with." -Harry Crews, novelist and playwright (b. 1935) I ran across this quote and thought it would resonate with various folk.

Welcome to Ottawa :) Take a look at my address book for the NCR's hottest and trendiest spots! http://www.genevieveofottawa.com/address-book.html Have a safe trip xx

I totally agree. It doesn't matter if you are not 100% sure she is underage, but if you are 100% sure, then you contact the correct department of LE or find the number to whoever is more easy to deal with and report the ad. If you want to remain more anonymous, then you find out what email address to use and send the ad links to that address. If you don't know for sure if the links will stay active, as in the poster may delete and repost often, then make sure you copy the ad content when sending the email. There is no grey area. If you know this is an underage worker, you report her immediately. I have zero concern for the clients in this instance, they should be reporting her as well if they go to see her and don't ask for ID for proof of age if they even have a hint of a doubt. Chances are many clients go to see someone advertising as 18 and looking younger because they want her to be underage. Additional Comments: If the sp advertises as 18, and looks younger or older than that, it is his responsibility to check her ID and verify her age. It doesn't matter if he does it knowingly or unknowingly, the law is the law and doesn't care if he knew her age or not. It was his responsibility to find out., not hers to volunteer it. We already know the underagers are lying about their age, it is up to him to verify it before proceeding. Additional Comments: If you won't do it, then give the information to someone who will. It is turning a blind eye and not wanting to get involved that is a problem, imo, not whether she is willing or unwillingly working. She is underage. Enough said.

The official Dexter facebook page just announced that the 8th season will be premiering a lot sooner than expected! It premiers on June 30th! :D

A favourite for those raw, animalistic times.... Nine Inch Nails, Closer, fuck you like an animal.

If anyone suspects child sexual abuse, they have a legal, and ethical, responsibility to report it. The appropriate authorities will get to the bottom of whether the facts confirm child sexual abuse. It doesn't matter whether she's doing it voluntarily or is coerced. It's still child sexual abuse in the eyes of the law. I'll explain why below. Too much of the history of child sexual abuse involves people who have had suspicions but did not report them for various reasons ("I'm not really sure... I don't want to make a wrongful accusation... I should mind my own business..." etc). You'll never be certain because you can't investigate the facts from afar. Contact the authorities who can. All reports can be made anonymously. The criminal code identifies various "age of consent" for sexual activity. It's lower where both parties are consenting youth ("young lovers"). Underage prostitution falls into the category of of "exploitive sexual activity" and the age of consent is 18. Since there is likely to be a pimp involved with someone who is under this age, it's fairly obvious why it is called "exploitive sexual activity". As for who to call, call the Police. The NS Child and Family Services Act only applies to children under 16. This leaves a gap for 16-18 year olds under the Provincial Act and the potential for an investigation to get lost in the bureaucracy. If she's under 18, the Criminal Code will still apply. The Halifax Police have repeatedly shown their willingness to take action on underage prostitution and the Crown lays charges against the pimp, not the victim.

Either go to the police or social service agencies, show them the advertisement and tell them of your concerns about her being underage. And don't be concerned about the "men", in my opinion, any man who would have sex with a underage girl deserves what he gets. My two cents RG

Prostitution is legal in Nevada outside of Vegas - although there is a lot of it going on in Vegas... In the US, I told ladies that I was from Canada. A few asked for a drivers license, and they were really friendly after that - I lived in Calt fir a while... It has been a few years since I have engaged SP in the states. Suppose that LE may get fakes IDs now... No more carte blanche for Cannucks:( Very happy to be here and Canadian ladies are the best!

Happy Birthday Sophia (sorry just found this thread)

Yes, I don't know what these girls are thinking when they post ads like this. You'd think that it would make more sense to advertise yourself using the name you used at Nevada's.. there must be some of your old clients that would follow you, when you went indy, right?. So, as for this "newcomer from the Netherlands" theme.. Obviously she's not a newcomer, as verified by several reputable posters.. From the Netherlands? maybe, or maybe just her grandfather emigrated from the Netherlands.. regardless, this promotional approach doesn't work with me, and in fact, has the opposite effect.

Cruise ship (don't know how to sail) But you forgot to mention fishing boat LOL Holiday, your choice of type of holiday, in Canada (your choice of where) or outside Canada (your choice of where) RG

I can speak for Cat's post above - yes she does, and yes she does!

Decided after a few months of uncertainty, and just having got my passport (that hanging over my head at this time was enough) well I took a me day. Took the day off, drove to Toronto, and went to Bass Pro Shops. Was even good, first thing I did was a mall walk, and Vaughn Mills is a large mall so I got the longest walk in today since starting walking All I bought was an Under Armour hoodie (warm, great to wear for ice fishing) But it was a nice break after a bunch of stuff weighing on my shoulders. Week from Monday, visit dad RG

I see that Victoria Jolie is going to be hosting a Libero Paradiso event this April in Calgary. These events move around the country and if you're interested it can be difficult to find a recommendation since recommendations are posted by region. I was very fortunate (understatement of the year... or of a lifetime ;-) ) to attend the first event outside Toronto. If you've heard about this event and are curious (who wouldn't be ;-)) here's a link to my recommendation. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=413194#post413194

Well I am now a regular in Ottawa and I would love to see in no particular order: Nathalie, Julie Wilde and Gia. What a wish list! :):):)

One hella fine specimen ...

For me...I have 2 on my knee from a surgry:( Not big, most do not notice, but I always do! 1 on my right ankle, from a break, had metel rod and screws:( From that I have major nerve damage from:( lately I have aquired 2 new ones, on my hands:( But all good, is from my love of cooking and baking:) lol...seems every friday when I cook my specialty dishes, I tend to get one small burn...lol

Had the pleasure of seeing her yesterday for the first time she is a sweetheart. Guys if u are shy when it come to new sp well she made me feel so comfortable and at ease. Don't let her tats scare u either cause she is as soft and sweet as can be. Her eyes alone are so beautiful, and when she make eye contact it amazing. Truly a relaxing and great experience.

Well here's another perspective. Since embarking on this lifestyle in July 2010, I have had had approximately 32 encounters. Every time I saw a lady, be it at my hotel, or the lady's in call location my wallet was with me (well in my pants pocket LOL) and cell phone when at my out call, on top of the room desk in plain sight. My wallet has been, always, unscathed...well it's a little lighter after the encounter because of the donation, purchase of a gift and the lady's tip ;-). And my phone, well not there anymore, only because I upgraded to a smartphone And to add to the perspective. I have had one sleepover at my hotel, and my wallet was in my pants pocket. Point is, while I'm asleep hypothetically speaking, a lady could if so inclined, get out of bed, steal my wallet and leave. Never even crossed my mind as a concern because the lady I spent the night with was and is a lady, and I trust her. I am planning a weekend escape with another lady, and again, because she is a lady and I trust her, I have no concern about my wallet. I only mention this to add to this thread, not because I have an issue about my wallet See well recommended ladies from CERB, you won't have any need to worry. The ladies stay in business (and remember, for them it is their livelihood) by being good companions. Stealing wallets will put them out of business fast. And shoe on the other foot for a minute, I haven't read posts from ladies about they should do with their purse when they go to an out call A rambling from someone who still has his wallet, an upgraded smartphone and doesn't worry about them when he sees ladies RG

Frankly, while I believe that people should feel free to ask questions and say what's on their mind, I do feel a bit nervous whenever we venture into ways to deal with or protect against stereotypes. The one about companions being likely to rob clients or compromise their personal security if we know real names and other information is particularly difficult. Seeing a reputable, established companion increases the likelihood that everything will go smoothly. You won't need to worry that she'll rifle through your wallet or cell phone when you're in the bathroom or that she'll call your wife half an hour after your meeting ends. Honestly, if someone were to make a post on a couple of boards, saying that a lady had stolen something or had outed him to his partner or employer, she would be finished in this business! A good reputation and longevity in our profession require being trustworthy. One of the things you're paying for is complete confidentiality. Please also recognize that, while you may be concerned about having your identity and personal life compromised, most of us are concerned about our safety and security, too. I see clients in my home. I feel safest here, but it also means that my visitors have a great deal of information about me before we lay eyes on each other. I screen clients because of the real possibility that someone might hurt or rob me though I know that most have no interest in doing anything like that. In the end, it comes down to trust on both sides. I won't see you if, for any reason, I feel that I may not be safe enough with you. I don't want you to meet me if you're worried that I might do something to harm you, either.

This Group is the Best Place to Be.

I have to say, I've never worried about it particularly. My wallet stays where it always is ... in my back pocket or in my jacket pocket (if wearing a sports jacket or suit). Never had any issue whatsoever. Porthos

kick her to the curb??? ridiculous hoops??? I'm sure statements like that raise warning flags with the ladies. Likely it's guys like you that are the reason ladies require verification and references. Ladies are deserving of respect, and I certainly do not see any respect for the ladies coming from you with that post. You could say you chose not to see ladies requiring references without bashing those ladies who do require them RG

Because in life there are more important things than money... In this lifestyle, safety is always priority number one for most of us. Jumping through hoops? lol How difficult can it be to say "I saw xxx a while ago. Here is her contact information"? Sounds pretty easy to me.

I just bring everything with me like always. I trust the lady i see and she's always with me anyway. =D

Here's a few quotes from Alexxxis (Pot.Of.Gold) so you know why I nominated her. Who else says this kinda stuff on here? If this doesn't make you want to visit her, what would? I know I do. "i need a real good facial." "I personally agree that GFE does consist of bbbj....as well as LFK/DFK & DATY" "actually - i was aiming for slutty." "i prefer BBBJ myself, but am willing to provide CBJ in exchange for a good spankin!" "i have to go and get this maid outfit that some of you have been begging for" "ps - the 10th visit is also half price, not just the first "5th", but EVERY 5th visit is 50% off!!" "leave the $ on my dresser and take your pants off." "let's all be clear that the type of parties that I host.....A GOOD BANG! (a gang one sounds perfect LoL)" "...and now im HORNY"

I'd like to nominate Pot.Of.Gold. Although she is retiring, a lot of posts I've read from her are helpful, insightful, funny and all that good stuff. When I see a post from her, I tend to read it eagerly.