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You ask a worthy question zorobaby. These are the factors and experience that influence my decision when deciding to see a younger than 40 guest... 1. Unrealistic expectations of what the session will entail. Porn has skewed manys perceptions as to what is genuine sex and what is done strictly to feed a visual desire. For the younger set it seems to be about how many sog's they are going to get or they have a list of activities that need to be completed in order for them to feel they got their moneys worth. For me this approach is exhausting in the playroom, both mentally and physically and when they leave I often reflect that the money wasn't worth the energy spent for me. This trait is not exclusive to younger clients, just more prevalent. 2. Contact. Many younger men contact us with little to no respect shown for us as people. One line text and emails are an instant red flag as are the phone calls that start with "How much for a blow job?" without even introducing yourself. The civil niceties are seldom present and they do not have the awareness or understanding of what it takes to be a sex worker and that we are living, breathing human beings with feelings that need to be treated as such the same as everyone else. Their inherent attitudes of youth often mislable us as disposable or less than and that is unacceptable to us. 3. Money. If I had a nickle for every time I've heard "Is your pussy made of gold?" from a not yet grown man cub, I'd be rich. My prices aren't and never have been in the upper price range of this industry. I provide outstanding service and take pride and care in ensuring my guests are cared for above and beyond the industry norm but younger men don't understand the cost of doing business for us. Indulging in women is like any other hobby, it takes money and the younger they are the less saved pennies they have to spend on the intangibles unlike their older counterparts. All that said, I have some younger guests on my dance card who I absolutely adore. They are mature beyond their years and we are a good fit so it works. They contacted me with well articulated emails and engaged in an exchange with me that showed they were indeed the kind of client I enjoy. At that point, the age became a non issue. The younger providers often have personal reasons for staying away from their peers and that should be respected but most providers will make an exception if you approach them with the right attitude... cat

I agree with everything that has been said by these lovely ladies so far. I have had great experiences with a few select special younger gentlemen, and turned down countless older fellows for appointments because of one reason or another. Age is all in the head (and in the bed! ;)) But of course life experience is an asset, no matter what we're talking about. I just wanted to add that age is generally not even a piece of information that most ladies will ask you to provide when you are requesting an appointment. So unless you somehow out yourself by being immature, rude or disrespectful, or sound like you haven't hit puberty yet on the phone, then in actuality, age will not really even be an obstacle. I have even been surprised a few times, when I have corresponded with gentlemen to arrange an appointment, then when they showed up at my door, they were a lot younger than I had anticipated. But I had no idea because they wrote and spoke maturely and respectfully :) And that's all we ask!

Silence. Complete and utter silence. If only because it's so rare and precious...

This thread is hilarious! Some of the posts made me snort with laughter! It reminds me of the FML website. Seeing people drive around parking lots looking for the closest possible space to the entrance makes me think "wtf". If you have two functional legs and no disabilities, just park and walk! It's such a waste of time and gas.

I'm going to add to Cat's post as she pretty much summed up everything I was thinking. She made some very good points especially when she mentioned the niceties that potential clients practice and while they may seem subtle or considered just being polite, as service providers we take these types of things into consideration when deciding to meet someone. I know when texting with someone or talking to them on the phone very quickly if I want to meet them or not. When someone texts me as asks "How much for a blowjob?" without even so much as a "Hello" or the good ol "Wassup?"... I ask myself, what is this person going to be like in person? Secondly, many younger men seem focused on the laundry lists of questions and the MSOG part can almost be equated to going to an all you can eat buffet wanting to ensure their stomach is full to capacity while making sure they got their money's worth. I don't have a problem with MOSG as long as it happens within the amount of time the person books for. Many have approached in wanting MSOG without wanting to pay for the extra time. I don't think so... This may be acceptable in other service industries or products consumers buy but SPs are not products, we are human beings who "provide" a service. IMO, many younger men get so caught up in trying to get their rocks off (for a lack of better words) and at the same time almost seems like they have to prove a point with the MSOG. Many forget that this is an intimate service and that we are not machines. With many younger men, I have found myself being told what to do during an encounter almost like they want it to be scripted like how it is seen in porn movies and things don't flow naturally which makes me uneasy. I like to think i know what I'm doing and don't need to be reminded on how to perform a certain act. I'm not a blowup doll. Major turnoff! The lack of consideration many younger men ( not all) have shown to myself and others in this business is very common. Lastly, the word discount is often synonymous with younger men who endulge in this hobby. This is a luxury service that isn't a necessity but many tend to think it is and many think it's perfectly acceptable to negotiate with the provider which is another real turnoff. Having said all of this, I am not against seeing younger men as I used to be. In fact, I have many younger clients in their 20's and they have all been respectable and polite but I am choosy when it comes to meeting clients and it all starts with how they respond to me. This goes for clients of any age. SPs are offering a service and they are free to see who they want or don't want to see. I don't want to make it seem as though I'm making generalizations because I'm not but I'm not a new SP and I only speak from experience and often times hard knocks when seeing younger men.

I like the sound of rain but I still prefer the sound of thunder rumbling far away... and sweet silence, the moment when you think you are the only person left on earth

Short summary: the general feeling from the ladies is that age is, loosely, inversely correlated with douchebaggery. Of course, this is a gross generalization, and many exceptions will exist on both sides of it. But still some ladies seem to have decided that it's easier to just exclude a certain demographic because there's too much hassle for the good business they get from it. That's their choice, of course... and to be honest, I've never got the feeling it was carved in stone if someone who was younger than their usual clientele was prepared to act like a mature gentleman. So if you see an SP advertize that she usually only meets clients over a certain age, it's probably not an insurmountable obstacle, but remember to mind your manners lest you confirm her preconceptions of your generation :)

Not sure of the exact mechanics of it, but it seems that you have to have a certain number of posts on the board in order for it to become available. Keep posting, and it'll appear sooner rather than later :)

Hi there, and welcome to our community;) As a younger provider, I can say I prefer to see 35+ clients. I have no problem with younger gents closer to my age, but I find I click better and the chemistry is often more suitable with older gents. Age and looks is really irrelevant to me though in deciding whether or not I will enjoy a gent's company, the deciding criteria is someone who is respectful in all our correspondence, who I think I will be stimulated by intellectually and enjoy conversing with, and who shows a genuine interest in meeting with ME, as opposed to just the services I provide ;)

I love the sound of rain. I really enjoy taking a bath in the summer while it's raining and opening the window... No music, just the sound of rain. Those have been some of the most peaceful moments of my life. Phaedrus is right though, silence is beautiful too.

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Last week's highlight, actually, which continues a tad this week.... A good friend of mine referred me to a great mechanic who gave me an honest opinion about getting my car up to par to Ontario's standards (moving from Quebec ...). Turns out there is too much money to put in the car for me to either keep it (and plate it in Ontario) or sell it (its not worth much as it turns out). Plus, i can walk everywhere, including to work. So, this week, my rust-bucket, money-pit of a car is getting donated to the Kidney Foundation, where they will try to fix it and sell it, or trash it (and-or recycle the parts). For those interested, they arrange for the pick-up (they take care of trucks, cars or boats), and they issue a tax credit receipt regardless of what they do with it.

I think this thread was started just to get a reaction from people. No serious person would ask such an asinine question.

There is a section of the Criminal Code which deals with this.

I personally believe that you are on exactly the right track in wishing to communicate to some degree prior to meeting an SP. Your introductory email, or PM or text should be polite and serve as a brief personal introduction. Reading posts in the forums will give you a pretty good idea of how a particular SP thinks and I believe that you can get an appreciation for the person and make a somewhat informed opinion about whether the two of you will click. That "click" is important and can make a good experience become an amazing experience. Everyone is seeking the best experience possible and prior communication can make that first hello upon meeting become much easier and even more eagerly anticipated. At the same time I have read more than once about 'timewasters,' so there is indeed a fine line that you must walk. Follow the lead of the SP and if you don't get enough from her prior to meeting to give you that comfort level then it would be OK in my opinion to not make the date and even explain why. Good luck and enjoy your time on Cerb.

Hey guys, ive been reading around the forums for a while now and this is actually starting to eat at me a bit. In a growing amount of posts im seeing that people seem to think that "older gents treat women better than younger ones". Saying this makes it look like all clients under 35(?) seem to not treat the sp/ma well or we are only out for ourselves in alot of ways. I am mid 20's myself, and its starting to actually get to me that seems to be "the norm" way of thinking. Id like to see what others around my age seem to think, maybe the slightly older ones seem to think... ladies why is it that my generation is least preferred in the community? This isnt a rage thread... its a discussion thread. im not looking to start a fight with anyone, so please dont assume thats what im trying to do.

Welcome Gabriella !Nothing Better than East meeting West for the first time !!Well somewhat west, ok further west than Kenora lol- I hope the extreme cold has moved on and the Manitoba men show you how hot they can be !! maybe next trip we can get you all the way to Western Canada lol- (the west starts in Brandon )

I love sex as much as the next man, but sometimes there is nothing more sensual than just making out with a passionate woman. For me, spending an hour with a woman, showering together, making out on the couch then moving to the bed would be fantastic. Finally, switch from the lips on her face to spending the last half hour just orally pleasuring the lips between her thighs would be the ultimate. Pleasuring a woman and making her moan is like music to my ears. The only thing is many SP's prefer not to kiss at all. Anyone know which SP's in the Ottawa area enjoy being totally the centre of attention? Don't hesitate to PM me directly.

I am a very voluptuous & super busty woman with soft hands & awesome touch. My very friendly & welcoming demeanor will put you at ease, my appearance will delight you and my completion techniques will excite you & relieve all of your everday stresses. I will be available tomorrow, Thursday & Friday from 9:00 am - 5:00 pm My private and discreet location is in the central east end - very close to St Laurent Mall. Please note, I have: Shower facilities you can use before & after to ensure your cleanliness. Fresh towels & clean linens to ensure your comfort. My Sensual Massage Rates 150 - 45 mins 180 - 60 mins 240 - 90 mins Please take a look here to view more picturesClick here to see my massage recs #9 & #10 Please pm, email [email protected] or call me at 613-262-6469 to set something up. NO TEXTS-I must hear your voice-Texts will be ignored. Bye for now, Vanessa xoxo

I was going to echo what Cleo said, a better question would be who DOESN'T enjoy this :) Making out gets me wet pretty much instantly.

I LOVE DRIVE INS!!! I keep hoping they'll come back in style... cat

The sound of thunder, the rolling waves in the ocean ( even better when it's with classical music) and a kitten's meow.

i agree with Winnipeg cub on this one..........and will add that I love making out and consider it the "whistle wetter" in more than one way....if you know what I mean ;)

I love the sound of a Harley Davidson motorcycle, be with original pipes or with straight pipe. I often hear them when I'm at work and it almost causes me to quit and go home and hop on mine. Ahh! the joy of summer.

As long as your preferences are legal, I don't think you should second guess them. And yes, many younger SPs find older men more attractive than men their own age. I was like that when I was younger. And I still prefer older men today. As an SP, though, a word of advice: stay fit. This doesn't mean you have to be as thin as a model or run off and invest in hair plugs. I'm not talking about that type of fitness. I'm talking about flexibility and stamina. The oldest customer I've ever had was going to turn 90 in the last year I saw him. And yet, he was one rompin' stompin' experience! I have had many friends in their 70s and 80s who love to play on my liberator shapes and who will chase me around the massage table, or just take time out to invite me to dance nude when a favourite song comes on the radio. But I've also had problems with customers with physical challenges, and these have happened with men as young as their 30s. There is an amount of energy required to achieve an orgasm. We never think about it until it is isn't there, but this is definitely one of the biggest obstacles to enjoying yourself in a session. The other is flexibility. And again, you really don't have to be too old to lose this. You don't need to be able to bend over backwards or put your head between your knees, but if you have difficulty (in the absence of arthritis or some disability) getting on and off the bed, moving around the bed, getting up, etc., it will diminish your enjoyment of this experience. It doesn't take a big commitment to exercise to stay within a good range of fitness and flexibility, but walking a few extra steps a day, taking the stairs instead of the elevator, and stretching regularly will go a long way to ensuring you can continue to enjoy this sport well into your golden years. Additional Comments: Oh! And masturbate daily!!

Im ready to ROCK your world. My name is Crystal, one of my biggest pleasures in life is to please, so why not treat yourself and allow this sexy young babe take care of you. I offer amazing, non-rushed service that will have your mouth-watering. Soapy hot showers, a massage that will take away all your tensions, body slides you cant deny, i love to tease and to please. I can be an angel, or i can be your little devil. So what do you have to lose? your going to be coming back for more, and i cant wait to see you smile. Come play with me. :dncdick:

Meat also falls into this category I think... cat

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Let me guess....you were talking to this fella ?? ;)

The voice of a sexy lady saying my name while we are making love!

Thank you for your thoughts on this Samantha and for the suggestion of 4 and 5 star hotels......perfect sense.

Nope. This is the perfect opportunity for you relax and spend time with a lady you want to be with that attracts you, in the age preference you want to experience. SP willing of course. Just enjoy Zorotime :) There are some amazing Cerb ladies out there waiting to meet you.

Laws Of Survival ---------------- If you're calling the day of - good luck. If you book 48 hours in advance, you're lucky to consumate the deal with 50% of the girls you talk to. If you book with Zoe, Kayla or Soleil, you can take it to the bank. They will be there and are awesome.

To be honest, I think it's up to whoever's traveling (you for incalls; the SP for outcalls) to make damn sure you know where you're going and how long it's going to take to get there, and to make sure you have enough time. Okay, traffic disasters happen, and you can't prepare for everything... but cancelling at the last minute really isn't fair and is probably a good way to annoy people, on either side. We've all been late because the traffic was crap and we hit every single red light on the way, but it's not good to make a habit of it. I keep a book in the car, that I'm reading in five- or ten-minute chunks when I have a few minutes to kill because I got there a bit early. I find that much better than getting horribly stressed because I'm going to be late.

you forgot to mention the gigantic thumbs up icon on the button! how will he ever find it with a man's idea of directions, sheeesh!

Samantha, you certainly dissected that puppy. Terrific analysis.

In my outgoing message for my VM, I specifically state to leave your first name and the timeframe within which I may return the call, and if I am able to, I will. If I don't get the message until after the timeframe they've told me, then I'm going to safely assume they understood I wasn't able to call them back and that it won't be held against me. :)

great post as well roomyy !!!

Cat, you are a very articulate lady. This is the second post I have read belonging to you, and each time it has been an education. Thanks for your insight. I have much to learn. Z

Well said! It's also one of the reasons why I prefer to entertain from my own incall location... no risks of hidden cameras anywhere!

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Age is only a factor if you make it one in this industry. What is important is to find a provider that appeals to you on more than just a physical level. There are some very mature young ladies on here that take their work seriously and treat their clients with the same respect they receive. At your age, you already realize that great sex takes more than just a beautiful body, it takes passion, spirit and the intelligence to ensure all your needs are met. You've certainly come to the right place, just do your research and have fun... cat

It is after 12 now so I'd like to make the lovely Nathalie my Goddess of this day. I was fortunate enough to spend some time with her at a party late last year and her outer beauty was only overshadowed by the perfection within.

I love to play with myself when I'm with a man. Nothing gets me hotter than having a stiff cock next to me. I love to play with my vibrator while the man is jerking off in front of me. Nothing yummier than mutual masturbation.

lol well in this case maybe it will just make you explode... dont try this at home ;-)

thanks you all for watching hope it was helpfull

If you're interested in an ongoing, contractual or retainer-type relationship, I think you've come to the right place. What you can expect from the arrangement will, frankly, depend on what you can afford to pay. Most of us are doing what we do in order to make a living. Some work part-time because their other line of work doesn't bring in enough income. It's rare to find someone who is really only working to pay for occasional luxuries. Please recognize that sexual monogamy is likely to be very expensive. Asking the woman to give up having an intimate, emotionally-engaged relationship with someone else is a big demand to make on a woman in her 20s. Since you're only wanting something that might last a year or two, presumably because you either don't want a permanent relationship or because you already have one and just want to supplement your needs and interests, the woman you find would still be giving up a disproportionate amount of time and opportunity in her own life. However, this might be acceptable to someone who's in grad school, for example, and determined to focus mostly on her studies or writing her dissertation. If you're imagining that someone who isn't already a paid companion is more likely to be infection-free, please do your homework. The notion that prostitutes who don't work on the streets are a source of disease is not only a blatant stereotype, it's simply false. You are far more likely to contract an infection from a sweet college girl who's only had a couple of boyfriends or from a lovely lady you've met in a bar or on a dating site than you would from one of us. That's because we know that every man, regardless of age, ethnicity or financial profile, whether he's a client or a genuine boyfriend, is a potential source of infection. We take steps to safeguard our health accordingly. In the end, the only person's health care anyone is responsible for is their own. Consider carefully exactly what kind of financial investment you're able to make. Can you, for example, pay for someone's rent? Or are you thinking more along the lines of her university tuition, per term (which would usually be somewhat less than rent)? Are you able to cover all of her living expenses, which would be about two to two and a half times her monthly rent? Or are you simply wanting to be sure that you have first-call on her time for a couple of hours every Tuesday but want to get a discount on her hourly rate? Any of these arrangements could work out well. Just make sure each of you is very clear about what to expect. How do you plan to pay your sugar baby? Cash is king, but you may prefer to arrange for regular electronic bank transfers. Some people provide reloadable credit cards. Arranging for an auto lease is not uncommon. Whatever plan you come up with, how do you expect to safeguard things on your side? Do you have a completely private bank account, for example, with no risk of anyone else knowing about your deposits and withdrawals? What I'm trying to say is: if you have a wife or partner, how will you ensure that she doesn't find out what you're doing? I ask because I'm dedicated to ensuring that women in this industry are safe; I can't encourage you to put someone's security at risk because you overlooked the possibility of being discovered by your intimate partner, employer or secretary. Think about the kind of woman you want to be with. I understand that you're interested in someone who's young and beautiful. That's not a problem. But surely you want someone you can actually enjoy, as a person. Someone with whom you may have interests in common. Someone for whom you can actually care, and who will also develop real affection and regard for you would be ideal because you both need a significant level of trust if this arrangement is going to work out well. However, if you want a situation in which there will be little to no emotional involvement, you may be better off with a roster of companions, seeing one on the first Wednesday of the month, another on the second Wednesday, and so on. Do know that we can become quite fond of monthly regulars, though. I have a couple of those whom I've seen for several years and for whom I care a great deal. Please also consider how long you want the arrangement to last and how either of you will end it. You might enter into something that's intended to last for six months, an academic year or a full calendar year, for example. Or you might want to keep things more open and simply guarantee that you will give at least one or two months' notice before ending your financial commitment so that your companion has a reasonable opportunity to make other arrangements. I hope you will be more relaxed about what you would require of her if or when she decides that the arrangement needs to change or come to an end. I think I can safely say that the great majority of women on this board are interested in quality engagements with kind, respectful and caring men who value us as individuals. The number of paid companions who genuinely want to see 10-15 or more clients per week is miniscule. We all value returning clients and those of us who have a number of ongoing, regular clients consider ourselves to be blessed. Sugar daddy arrangements and Mistress-type relationships can work very well if they're undertaken thoughtfully. I hope you find what you're looking for.

On top of what Mmad said that she'll be back, alternatives are kelly on cambridge.

I was wondering if anyone would have any suggestions as to who would be a good choice for this kind of fetish? More specically teasing, edging, humiliation, worshiping, using the sub a a sex slave, etc. I have been searching a long time and have not found any sp's advertising for this. I realize a lot of sp's are able to do this but I need an sp with a somewhat naturally dominant personality to her as this makes it all the more real. Thanks for the info in advance and if any sp would like more detail pm me.

Speaking of grocery stores, why do people right at the end of an aisle take their carts, decide to start gabbing and socializing with another person, and block off the aisle? Do those people drive the same way And going through a check-out, why does a person decide to gab and socialize with a cashier, when there is a line up of people waiting to go through, and why does the cashier allow this. And at drive throughs, usually Tim Hortons, why don't people pull right up behind the car ahead of them. I've seen line ups going right off the property, onto a street, blocking traffic, and if every one pulled up right behind the car ahead of them, this wouldn't happen...keeping two or three car lengths distance in a drive through isn't safe, it's a hazard. RG