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I think it is not so much the age as it is the experience in the industry. The real young (teenagers) do not have as much experience as a SP who has been in the industry for a few years. I don't necessarily go for the SP's that are in their lower 20's rarely in their teens (I don't remember the last teen if at all). If they are in their lower 20's I prefer to see SP's that have been in the industry for a significant period of time. Those are girls that have seen all kinds of clients and are used to the variety. There is nothing worse than to see your SP cringe at first glance where you know they are thinking " I can't believe I have to have sex with this guy". That kind of look to me is the ultimate contraceptive. I suppose this has to do with the maturity of the SP. If the SP has a few years under their belt, I have a sense that they are comfortable in the industry. If they are comfortable in the industry, I feel they have the attitude that age, race, appearance etc. does not matter to them. They appear to embrace the job no matter who the client is because they have seen it before and they know what to expect. If my age does not appear to be an issue to the SP, then I expect that the session will go well regardless of their age. The chances of booking an SP that has a comfortable attitude are greater for SP's that are just a bit older and are comfortable in the industry.

Age is but a number! Younger, older or somewhere in between, each experience is unique and brings with it excitement, joy and pleasure. To limit oneself is sad but it is a choice to be made come what may.

No need to add the just kidding, The Littlest Hobo is awesome -- Lassie has nothing on that doggie! :) I've got the theme song stuck in my head just remembering! ...maybe tomorrow, I'll wanna settle down...

Just for Laughs and Just for Laughs Gags is one of the funniest shows on TV anywhere IMHO.

If you enjoy Dexter, you might try one of the books. I'm not usually into audiobooks, but my tomatoes are coming ripe and I figured I'd download something to keep my brain engaged during the coming hours of mindless tomato processing and canning. I went with "Double Dexter." I downloaded it from my library. It's a slightly different story than the TV series. Rita is still alive, and they have a baby girl named Lily. Deb also has a baby, apparently! So if you enjoy Dexter and want more, check out your local library. You may need to apply for a library card if you don't have one, but it's all free and they have excellent interfaces for most smart phones.

A one word answer for you... scam!

Well, for me, I won't see guys younger then 18 and guys no older then 100. These are hard and set rules, and I won't sway from them. Maturity is what matters to me. Age means nothing. (However, I still id guys if they appear under the age of 21 - just to make sure).

I genuinely feel that I have an obligation to share with people about the industry as I know it and have sat in Regents shoes on many occasions. I consider it a very personal PSA Coles Notes that I willingly hand out for free. What I have learned is that I don't need to change their POV, all I need to do is put a face on it that challenges their beliefs. Meeting sex workers that don't fit the stereotype makes people reconsider what they believe to be true about the sex trade. It makes them question what they think are facts. I never take an activist stance, I'm very easy going in my delivery; avoiding the hard line presentation so they have nothing to push back against. Having them repeat their mistaken views verbally simply entrains it deeper. Instead I bring a light hearted tone to the conversation, smiling when I deliver the truths of my story. I've worked in every aspect of this industry save SWing and would do so again in a heart beat. I don't glamourize it but I also bring to light the good that I see. When they start pointing into dark corners, I simply parallel the facts with other lines of work equally as perilous and that sheds a certain inarguable light on things. Remember, you don't need to "win" the war. You just need to show them there actually isn't a war going on, simply a life as we chose it. Changing a belief starts with one seed taking root and growing. Not as quickly as we might like, it may be buried deep and take a long time to break the surface which requires patience on our part with liberal amounts of sunshine and water. Most often, they will supply the sunshine; they will reflect back on the conversation time and time again, every time allowing your essence to influence their perceptions just a little more. All you have to do is water it. Just don't over or under water, both will kill the seed before it can take root and flourish... cat

I don't watch a lot of TV but have fond memories of The Littlest Hobo and The Forest Rangers. J/K Actually Republic of Doyle as mentioned is good but haven't watched all of them. I find the CDN Pickers awful because of those 2 guys. Something about them I don't like but I do like the American version. Go figure. SCTV was a classic and watch it when I see that it's on.

There used to be this travel show that was produced in Canada. I would watch it years before I immigrated here. That and Due South. A lot of the programs on Discovery are Canadian produced. And from my understanding, same with a lot of the shows on HG TV. But even though it's not TV, there are some absolutely amazing radio shows. Under the Influence, Vinyl Cafe, and the Debaters. Some of the finest examples of quality entertainment. And it's completely Canadian!

Being at home... <3 <3 <3

Actually CERB makes me happy because it made me realize there's nothing at all wrong with this hobby and the people in it. It's simply a lifestyle choice and anybody who wants to judge us for it can go to hell.

There is a really good Network Show called Rookie Blue. Not too sure if any of the cast is canadian but the show is shot in Toronto and currently in its 4th season.

My favorite is Canadian Pickers. Not only am I a big fan of antiques but the personalities of Scott and Sheldon (the pickers) is fit for TV. Somehow, I don't see myself doing TV... I don't feel charismatic in front of a camera.

There is nothing inherently wrong with either the sps or the clients who use bp, just as there is nothing guaranteed right about either the sps or the clients who only use cerb. Savvy folks on both sides of the equation will use both, the sps have to make a living, and the clients have to have either a varied selection, or at least the illusion of selection lol. What usually baffles me are the ones, on both sides, who seem to forget that there are many of us, on both sides, who do use both, along with many other advertising options. We can't all be wrong. For me, usually the better clients come from my bp ads, less likely to ask for discounts, or half hour sessions for that matter. I'd be an idiot not to use it, if that is the result i get from it. * wow, just noticed how old this thread is lol

I agree with the first part, but not entirely with the second. You're right, any age cutoff will be somewhat arbitrary. It's the same thing about, say, the voting age, the drinking age, the driving age, or when you become criminally liable as an adult. Do some people cross those milestones at different points in their lives? Absolutely. Sticking with those numbers rigidly guarantees you'll be wrong some of the time. On the other hand, the reason those numbers get chosen for voting, drinking, etc. is because there's an expectation that, most of the time, that age roughly corresponds to a certain readiness. This evidence can itself be completely objective, even if it means there are lots of people younger than X who really are ready for Y. It's not about certainty, it's about probability. And that's why my own number of 21 works for me. I'm pretty sure that if I ever started considering younger companions of 18 or 19, that in the vast majority of cases I'd decide not to proceed once I got to know her and got a sense of her maturity level.* On the other hand, I think there would be significantly fewer such cases after 21 and almost none after 25. Picking 21, widely considered the age of "okay, now you're a complete adult and totally responsible" for other purposes, means that's the point where I'm personally comfortable with the probabilities as I understand them. (* And furthermore, there might very well be times when I'd miss a cue, choose to proceed, but find out afterward that I was wrong, which would be absolutely devastating. It's just not worth the risk to me.) At the same time, I don't judge others for choosing a lower, legal number for themselves if they're comfortable with it. After 18, it's a strictly a personal decision.

While I don't totally disagree with most of the comments posted. I do not believe that maturity or age is a factor in all this. The most determining factor is, what is your criteria. Just like some will choose a brunette over a blond, or prefer an exotic looking partner, it's a matter of personal preferences. Age might or might not be a factor to some, or might be very important to others. Two immature individual in a relationship probably won't last long but you can't live their life for them. We all have to make choices eventually and learn from them for better or for worse. I know for me, it is a factor. I don't have an upper limit but I do have a minimum. My logic behind it might seem irrational to some. But it is one those things where someone else's opinion shouldn't matter. As long as both adults are consenting, it's not my place to interfere. If the opinion of others is important to you, I would recommend you re-evaluate what it is you're looking for.

This is a fine line. Just my opinion...but if the relationship as a whole is strained and is not working....and if you have done everything to correct it without success.....then why not just end it? I can't see how cheating fixes anything (and yes, seeing SP's behind your S/O's back is cheating). It just compounds an already bad situation. Now...if the emotional relationship itself is still healthy....if there is still love and caring and fulfilment there....and if the only thing missing is the physical aspect of the relationship (be it for medical reasons, psychological reasons, etc)....then I would say that yes, seeing SP's is totally acceptable....provided that your SO is aware of it and is comfortable with it. Lastly...if you're single....or if you're in an "open", honest and non-monogamous relationship. Then hey, why the hell not?! Dive in and have fun! :D Not trying to be judgmental to anyone's own situation. These are just my own views based on my comfort level. Dishonesty of any sort makes me feel guilty...whether its related to escorts or not. But at the end of the day, when it comes to sex between two consenting adults, the only one who can decide if you should feel guilty or not is you.

Whoa, that's a lot of assumptions there. This isn't going to be a one-size-fits-all answer, as sure, some 19 year olds may lack the maturity to make such a decision, but there are also plenty of folks in their 20s, 30s, 40s, etc who may just as equally be unable or unprepared to enter into sex work. That is not our call to make, or our judgement to pass, so long as the person in question is of legal age and legally able to consent. Coersion can also happen at any age.

I am in no way passing judgement on the next person because I do believe we all have that right to live and do as we please...No one can make our decisions for us and in no way are we better than the next because we choose to do something that another person doesn't BUT in my opinion and this is for myself only I choose not to interact with gentlemen 18-25 I prefer the older gentlemen for their passion and the respect they give me as an sp provider...yes I am have seen younger than 30 and.a few were very mature and the time we spent was enjoyable...but me being a mature lady I prefer the same...we have a better connection and so much more to talk about...the sex is great either way but the older gentlemen have much more life experience xo Please No disrespect towards the younger gents just my opinion

Since you asked I'll chime in:)I feel if you are a man or woman over 20 you shouldn't be bothering with Teens, sp's or not. 18-19 is a teenager and still a child, imo. I don't care how mature they are. I had this conversation with a gent not long ago who was 60 or so and he asked what I thought of a man his age looking at an 18yr old and I said well that would make you a perv, that's my opinion! Its just not right in my mind for anyone of such a mature age to want to mingle with someone so young. Why? for many reasons, but I think I would ask the man or woman why they'd want to be with someone so young and I won't accept the excuse of youth is beauty because physically many men and women are beautiful right up into their senior years. Perhaps its a lack of maturity on the older persons side, or as I said before just a perversion I don't know but in my mind its not acceptable or right. Its different if a 60+ man goes after a 30+ woman or vice versa the maturity and life experience is there on both sides . Just how I see it.

Am I happy? Such a simple question. Hard to answer if I'm being honest with myself. It's just that for me happiness is not a state of mind, or even an outlook on life. Happiness is not a glass half full or a filter through which I view the world. For me happiness is a series of moments in a stream of reality. I'm not trying to say that sometimes I'm happy while other times I'm not. But rather I have periods of happy and periods of darkness and shadow. Happy can surprise me. Occasionally I catch myself in a moment of introspection and find happiness in the mundane. A nice sunny morning when nothing hurts or cuddling with my wife of 30 years make me happy. Meeting new friends and feeling good make me happy. But am I happy? At the moment, not so much. I have to get up for work in less than five hours, my neck is stiff and sore like it usually is and I have to pee, which I will do two or three more times before the alarm drags me from the bed in the dark of the morning. I can honestly say that I strive to be happy. I take pleasure from the little things. A good sneeze, a good shit, a good sleep are all sources of happiness. Sex makes me happy. Good sex even more. Great sex can leave me happy for days. Lately, I've been very happy. Sure there are things that bring me down: the aforementioned ache in my neck, insecurities, stress, a bad taco. But I try not to take these things personally. I try to leave the dark stuff on the side of the road and focus on those surprising things that bring light and happiness into my day. In general I have more happy moments than not. And I'll continue to strive to keep it that way.

I ve had bad and good moments in life... One thing I did learn is that the more I tried to fill up the glass the worse it was because you never get content with what you achieve... Maybe try to stop thinking so much how to get the glass full.. And just take one day at a time.. Pay less attention to the negative events and embrace the positive ones and make the best out of them! The glass will be filled!!! A few ywars ago I went through a really hard time... Even spent time at the hospital for depression... I think it was the best time for me.. Away from everything and everyone... Had time to think about just myself... Now I feel great, I am happy, may not have a" perfect" life..n but really, who does?? Or what is Perfect?? We all face problems, desicions, sadness, joy... We have to learn to accept with the good and the bad... And remember it can always be worse! Yes your mood reflects with the people around you.. I am a believer of that, it even reflects in things that can happen to you during the day... Think positive. And positive things will happen... Smile even when you don't feel like it.. Smile at everyone even if you don't know them... When you least expected you will feel always like a million bucks! And people around you will feel it.., specially your family and loved ones!

Well, you've got the link for the next social already. One other thing: Quite a few ladies have a social rate for this kind of thing (although it may be more aimed at going out than staying in), and if someone you'd like to see doesn't have a published social rate, you can always ask her if she does. If you're looking to hang out off the clock... if she asks to hang out with you, then that's great, and you'll probably have an awesome time. But if you ask her, then bear in mind that in her eyes you've probably just become yet another cheap-ass guy looking for free stuff, and she's probably got enough of those already. Once you get to know someone well it may be different, and close relationships do arise between SPs and clients... but if you try and force it then it almost certainly won't happen. I hate to be a downer on this, but it's probably wise to set your expectations realistically.

Further to Emily's post.... I hate a scripted encounter no matter the time frame! Lets just have fun and whatever happens within the allotted time frame is all good!

This is where I disagree, when a man books a GFE encounter he is booking the entire package (conversation, cuddles, intimacy and much more) No where did I say SOG was limited to one, however more than once in an hour is highly unlikely if someone wants a GFE experience that is unrushed. Telling someone MSOG's possible time permitting is not selling an act, its being honest that is just may not happen in the short time booked. No where does that statement say its not available, however like YMMV it is stating that it may or may not happen. And yes I do sell time, not a service and what happens during our agreed paid time commitment will happen as the date takes its course (its not a build your own menu for this amount of $$$$, its for time and companionship)

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You have definitely made an impact since joining CERB, sharing both thoughts and wit with the community. You support the lovely ladies here and treat people with respect. I do think you and *M* should perhaps get a room to make a game plan about lady protection though. Looking forward to many more posts.

Then you might give the audiobooks a shot. The story I'm listening to seems much fresher and truer to the earlier seasons. Obviously they turned the TV series over to some screenwriters and they farked it up.

Have yours? I feel mine have. My fear has been schooling myself, gaining a university degree, and the change that may bring. I've been surrounded by educated snobs most of my life, hence my iffy attitude towards education. Those I've known and to those I'm related who reached the "pinnacles" of education sadly tend to look down on those who haven't or at least haven't put forth the effort to. So to this I rebelled, rebelled by not gaining a degree or following the same path as my siblings. But in actuality I think it was more about fear. Fear of the unknown, of what would happen if I changed my path, fear of being around groups of people in a campus environment, fear of being judged, fear of not being able to finish what I started and the fear of not knowing what courses I could or should take. I have taken courses and attended the small "private" type schools where you pay outrageous fees for gaining a certificate for a trade, such as my esthetics certificate, travel and tourism and modelling course, lol. But I've never had the ability or the where with all to attend university. Many have laughed at me when I have admitted this, they said you can walk into a room with a stranger and be intimate but you can't walk into a class room on a university campus???? Interesting. I greatly respect education, it takes hard work and can gain one great rewards. I just dislike the condemnation from some towards some who don't have one and the attitude that if you don't you must be stupid or lazy. In my case laziness may play a bit part but the biggest is fear. As a strong willed and very independent person being controlled by anything isn't comfortable so this fear is something I've decided to try and conquer, lol, or at least think about conquering. Do you have a fear that is holding you back and that you'd like to conquer?

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Yes, that last part is so common. If an sp speaks up to say she is pleased with her choice of work for any reason, she is just going to be labeled as 'privileged' and can't possibly understand (as well as the non-sex workers can understand) this topic I guess. You do have the opportunity to include links to some of the sex worker organizations in various country, talk about the red umbrella stuff, links to articles and interviews (like the ones Berlin has been involved with) and so on. There are some very basic boring workplace information linked on the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective, for example. Post a link to the Occupational Health and Safety documents that regulate the sex work industry in New Zealand, for a good way to help make this titillating business mundane. Of course sex work is about money, and providing income to pay the rent, pay bills, and other things, just like any other kind of 'work'. That is why it's called sex 'work' and not just sex. i don't understand why the abolitionist groups try to make sex work into something different than other kinds of work. Some workers are exploited and some aren't, whether you are working construction (big human trafficking and slavery case in Ontario not that long ago was in the construction business), retail, fast food or sex work. An independent sex worker is more likely to be self motivated, whereas one working for an agency may be told what she has to provide, and what rates she can charge. Like any other employee in any other kind of business, she may be ok with that, or not. If not, she will either seek employment elsewhere, or go indy so she can make her own rules. Ask any retail clerk what they do when they don't like their employer's rules, and working conditions, and whether or not they feel trapped continuing with the job they have, or not. I think one of the reasons why other people think they can speak on behalf of sex workers is due to gender, some people think some women are incapable of making choices for themselves that are good for them. It is infantilization of adult women for others to come in and save them. There is an assumption that sex workers, in general, lack education, certainly no post secondary degrees. So the ones with BAs and MAs and PhDs want to come in and 'save' these poor unfortunate sps, who don't know what is good for them, in spite of the fact that many of them talk back and say they don't want saving, they are trying to pay for their own education, to get their own MA, BA or PhD lol

I totally agree one must realize that one self should come first before others at times. One of my down falls as I too use to do everything for other and was the one everyone relied on, but I too should of seek other in time of need. Doing thing for myself rather than for others was one of the first changes I did and it was recommended by a therapist that this be done. It's definitely was one of the hardest thing is to say no to certain family members and I as well find myself feeling guilty or end up doing it anyways.

The key word is consumer (not that ethics isn't important). As a consumer you normally do your research, asked questions, do some comparison if possible. Think of the way we purchase something of value. Then compare it to the way you treat something that you find worthless. Because, in reality you want the time you spend with an SP to be memorable. So IMHO, to be an ethical consumer you must be an informed, responsible and attentive consumer.

Ms. Penelope Davis ..... I share your fear of Dentists - in fact recently went to see one after a 20 year absence. I need a little work (remarkably less than I expected), however to even clean my teeth (due to the debilitating fear) they need to gas me or I simply can't do it. I wish I had inspiring wisdom for you - All I have is I feel your fear. Thoughts are with you!

If you're feeling shame you should probably get out of the game because it's not for you. I don't agree with those who said you should feel shame if you're married or in a relationship. I love variety and I play safe. I don't feel shame I just feel like I'm living my sex life to it's fullest.

Age is ALL in the... Bed! I know younger girls whom only do missionary - so decrepit!! I know older ladies whom swing from the chandeliers endlessly - so youthful!! The chronological age of a person doesn't matter to me so much as the level of maturity they have on the inside. Whereby I do not take self-worth from the views of others, it leaves me with the rhetorically question of: What does ones legally acceptable relationship with another have to do with anyone elses inability to accept it? (or conversely) What does ones inability to accept a legally acceptable relationship have to do with those in said relationship? IMHO: Nothing! ;) Party-on Wayne!! So, in conclusion: Keep swinging from those chandeliers everyone! ...regardless of age, or others (mis)judging you! ...cause it's going to happen anyways while still alive on this Earth. Peace Sex-lings! ;)

Congratulations Halifaxman on the first milestone Keep the postings up RG

Congrats Halifaxman58 for your first milestone.

I often laugh at the "holier than thou types" that are condescending when they refer to SP's and what they do. I suspect that there is a dark side to most all professions. As a long time "bastion of the International Business world" I can assure you that the sex trade in Canada is absolutely no worse than any other industry in this country especially when it comes to coercion and exploitation. I'm sure some will read this and say "that olderguy is a cynical bastard", but really it is just a realistic observation.

I just wanted to thank you for your post, I found it very touching because of your honesty and bravery for being so. Such admissions aren't easy to make. We all need a purpose and a reason for being here . We also need to love and appreciate ourselves, forgive ourselves for our mistakes and not dwell on the negatives. I hope you can find your inner peace, you deserve it.

Different people, different tastes, different experience, and YMMV. I thought she was nice, attractive, and put in a solid effort. Other people may prefer something/ somebody else.

If anyone here is unfamiliar with TED talks I would highly recommend them. They are interesting, amusing and generally short (about 10 to 20 minutes generally). This thread reminded me of this TED talk. Interesting look at what happiness is and what influences it. Hope you enjoy. Incidentally, I would conisder myself to be very happy in general. I have a great job I like, great kids that I love to be with and the women of CERB to add a little beauty to my life now and then.

I would answer YES!! I LOVE my jobs, yes I am busy most of the time but I truly love them! I LOVE my Family.... they are always in my corner no matter what and I can never thank them enough for this! Every Morning I am happy for the new day and to see what it brings! I am 110% a glass half full person and am always looking for the positive in everything, and I enjoy sharing the positive with those that can not see it for themselves at that moment! In life we need the Hard times to make the Good ones that much better.... My Wish is that we may all learn the value of a smile and what it can do to help you and others through the day!! Kisses XoX

Just wondering if anyone has seen her lately? She is mid 20's BBW, gorgeous girl with gorgeous curves..... Saw here awhile ago but I got a new phone and lost all my contacts...not looking for a number, just wondering if she is still around Thanks

An interesting and easy to understand article explaining what could be next after the laws are struck down and what sex workers want and need in a post-decrim Canada: http://rabble.ca/columnists/2013/04/sex-workers-are-coming

My favourite pictures of Eva... soapy Eva: