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You can't look at this business as a by-the-hour salary. We don't work eight hours a day, five days a week. The time and money that goes into replying to message boards, replying to emails, posting ads, taking phone calls, self-care/hygiene, photo shoots, the cost of maintaining an incall or transportation to outcalls, website upkeep, travel costs for touring etc. eats into that "per hour" figure as well. This business also ebbs and flows, and there are downtimes that balance out busy periods. We don't have sick time or vacation pay. Yes, this can be a very touchy subject, especially when there are assumptions made. Additional Comments: 1. They're not "selling themselves". We sell a service, not our bodies. Let's not use the same language abolitionist groups use when creating moral panic and conflating human trafficking with sex work. 2. "Too cheap" -- according to whom? There are many reasons why someone chooses to set their rates at what they are, and quite honestly, it's not up to us to judge. There is no regulatory board that oversees our industry. To some people, my rates can be "too high" or "too low". To that, I say that is none of your business. It's MY business. My rates have increased since I started in this business, as I figured out what my expenses were and how often I wanted to work. They are at a price-point which allows me to see the clients I want to see while maintaining a modest lifestyle and going to school. It has afforded me some opportunities I wouldn't ordinarily have, like buying my first car, but at the same time, I don't feel I am living an extravagant lifestyle (it was a great deal on a used car). There is always going to be someone with lower rates or higher rates than you. That is how this business, and all businesses work. Stop looking at other providers and comparing yourself to them; concentrate on your own self. It's not a matter of "s/he's stealing clients from me", IMHO, but rather "what am *I* doing to attract and retain clients?" 3. Let's not make assumptions about what a "lower" price-point implies, especially when it's making potentially stigmatizing and dangerous statements about having a pimp or drug addiction. We don't know their situation. I'm honestly quite surprised that this thread is still going on, just as I was surprised to see in another thread a provider pose the question of someone she had never met being underage. Statements like the ones in this thread have the possibility of impacting someone else's business and well-being, and not in a good way.

I must agree, I love cat's response to this forgotten thread. In my opinion sexuality has nothing to do with age. Granted, some younger ladies may be "in it for the money" but let's not pull out the tar and feathers! I hate assumptions and stereotypes! Don't forget, that that can be reversed! The goal is to find someone that attracts you whether it be physically, intellectually, emotionally or a combination of all or one or two. As long as you have had a great time, is that not the goal?

I really appreciate email as an initial contact. My query is what is the anticipated response time? I will honestly say that I won't even check my email on my personal days. Sometimes this may be 4 days in a row! To me, email indicates a future date...days maybe even weeks from now. Same day will probably never happen via email. I have things to do, a life lol! My most important form of communication for my life is texting because of its discretion when surrounded by others. My ads state that texting is the preferred method. So...all that to say that it may take more than 24hrs and up to 4 days to respond to an email. That is my business model and I won't apologize for it. At some point, someone said that we should review our business practices and maybe not spend so much time on twitter etc and spend more time answering our emails. My reply to that is that we have the right to have free time and do with that free time what we wish. A lot of ladies have schedules and calendars that are indicated on our websites. Perhaps a cursory view of the site prior to contact would make the whole scheduling aspect easy peasy!

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Additional Comments: Hi all, Prairie girl here. I would love to attend this one ,as I will be out there around that time Could I come???????? Please please, Xoxo

I don't see what the big deal is with an SP coming to your home. We are expected to have gentlemen in our homes, with the same thoughts of 'is he casing the joint' and do I come home to en empty place some day, or he turns up at some point when it's completely inconvenient (has happened!). We let you into our homes, why are we not let into yours? Discretion is one thing that I have noticed on this site, it is very prevalent here, and the ladies are outstanding in this. I don't believe that any lady advertising on this site would ever do anything to compromise the situation, but I do feel more comfortable going to the home of a gentleman if I have met him before. Timing things properly, and the lady being respectful of the situation (I could be your accountant coming to visit you), we dress appropriately for the public, its whats underneath that the public doesn't see is what counts, and what happens AFTER the door is shut! lol

Count me in too :) BJ

Looking forward to the date! I will pick up a door prize again for a lucky lady ;)

Trust is a two way street:) If I can trust you to come into my space then you should be able to trust me to come to yours. If a lady is reputable, has a trail, website, reco's etc, then why the worry? The largest part of our business model is discretion and trust. Happy hobbying:)

I also liked the tribute they paid to Teemu Selanne in Anaheim. He was named all 3 stars of the game, and at the end, he skated a lap with former teammate Sebastien Giguere. A great tribute to a fantastic player and a great person. And Go Habs Go!!!

HUGE hockey fan! Go Boston!

Personally I would have no issues with seeing a lady at my place. The ladies I now see (granted after a bit of learning and experience) I trust, so I wouldn't be worried about the silverware being stolen LOL All that said, the biggest obstacle to hosting in my own place is that I live in smalltown Ontario, and it would be far to long a drive to get here But I do like hosting, which is why I like outcalls to my hotel. But irrespective of my preference , it's first and foremost what the lady feels comfortable doing. A rambling RG

This is going to be great. Count me in please.

Count me in for the 12!

A couple of points I'd like to bring up. I'm seeing far too many people comparing lower-priced SP's to McDonald's or Baskin-Robbins, when in fact, even the lowest prices are well into the high-end luxury market. Even if somebody is "only" charging $100/hr, how many other businesses do you know that can charge that much? Second point, some people have mentioned that they are now retired on fixed-income. Perhaps this has more to do with the reduced prices? The previously high-flying Ottawa market is now coming back down to Earth.

I can attend June 12th! that would be perfect! Can I come? LEt me know how to secure a spot!

count me in too xo

Thank you so much for the invite. I wont miss this one......will plan my tour around it Looking forward to it!!! Xoxo

I'm in....but you regulars knew that already, lol

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Wow... Really? Clearly you took nothing from the other thread you said this on last year. You seem to think that we just answer an email, lay on our backs and make a boat load of money - that we shouldn't be so ungrateful as to not rush to answer your email as we need to respect your money and time... And yet you cannot respect our time!?? Whether a lady does this full time or part time, it's a full time job. Answering emails, maintaining ads, keeping up their web presence, texting clients, making appointment arrangements, booking hotels, booking travel, making plans, upkeeping their blog, twitter account and website, arranging for new photos, I could go on. Oh right, and in addition to all of this, she's also building and maintaining relationships with her clients... Friendship, trust, etc. Then there's the "working days" themselves. And by the way? Outside of this industry, they are REAL PEOPLE!!! Some mothers, some wives, some girlfriends, some students, all homeowners or renters who have dishes to wash, laundry to do, and meals to prepare. Never mind a little something called downtime!!! I don't think you realize for a second how mentally, emotionally and physically taxing this profession is. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade it for the world. I LOVE it. But it is not "EASY MONEY". If you want the respect of an SP, and want her to be eager to reply to your emails, try showing a little respect yourself.

At the end of the day, if a client doesn't like a lady's preferred method of communication, or response times, they should simply move on. There are lots of providers, and lots of different business models. If a lady has a particular model, and it works for her, well that really is the end of it. I assume if it wasn't working for her, she would change it. Porthos

Finally got to walk down a street in Charlottetown with no jacket on, enjoying the warm weather today not so nice tomorrow, spring is close.

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Just finished tying up the boys and stroking until the edge. I am now sitting and reading cerb while junior calms down.

Count me in! Only 2 months to wait...

I didn't know if you would make it in the summer Yay! Additional Comments: I didn't know if you would make it in the summer Yay!

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Oh, it's a very political issue. What I am saying is that Harper will do whatever is politically expedient to continue a successful government. My definition of a successful government is one that stays in power. That means keeping the vote. From our perspective, that just may mean more of the same in terms of legislation. Keeping it safe and neutral.

It really is as simple as "be prepared"... Or would you rather ask for change, and watch ten minutes of your session together be devoted to the provider having to get out her purse/wallet, hoping that she has the change? The awkward conversation if she doesn't? Congratulations, you just cock-blocked yourself ;)

The sun is shining :) I'm taking my dog for a nice lonnnggg walk!

Slept in after a busy weekend (amazing how an extra hour makes a difference) had some of my favourite cookies for breakfast and now I'm more than ready to officially start my day and week :)

Not sure "cheap" is the issue here. In my mind, asking for a few dollars change fails the "consideration and respect" test by refocusing the encounter in an uncomplimentary light. Yes, of course money is part of the equation, but not the part that makes it memorable - and worth doing. I would personally never put myself (or the SP) in such a position. IMHO, asking for change demonstrates a disturbing lack of forethought and consideration.

Lol canucks too are out of the show

I agree with the consensus that asking for change is bad etiquette. I also agree that the gentlemen who do ask are usually seeking lower priced encounters. If you are coming in for a 30 minute session you are either strapped financially or in a serious rush. If its the former and the 10 dollars means that much you should question whether you should have spent the rest. I have had this happen and it really does change the feeling in the room. Digging through my purse for a couple of 5's does not create a sexy goodbye :). most gentlemen tip and it really does create a positive feeling for the next visit. Just like the elimination of the penny we in this industry should agree to eliminate the 5 and 10 dollar bill... either that or I am going to add a fanny pack full of change to my lingerie collection. The man who wants change gets exactly what he asks for! Just my "2 cents" xoxo

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I like Jill way more than Quinn . Jill is younger and has more energy. When you call ask for Jill.

Ug, these threads make me very uncomfortable, especially the way they tend to evolve. It seems like most of the time everyone agrees that each lady should get to run her business the way they see fit. But it seems like invariably these sort of conversations turn into judgements on others (even if simply by implication) and hurt feelings. Better not to make assumptions, especially in this industry, and especially about people. Do what works for you and what makes you feel good.

I can only speak for myself. When I see a lady it is because there is something about her that interests me, that something, a connection, clicking if you will (and yes her looks too ;-) ) are what matter. If I am lucky to meet a companion that I like, even more lucky if I like that companion enough to continue to see her, and most of all fortunate enough that that companion will agree to see me, guess what, I'm not even looking at some lady offering her companionship at reduced rates From my perspective, sorry to phrase it this way considering the nature of this lifestyle, but this isn't about the most bang for your buck. For me it is about meeting and developing special connections with ladies who offer companionship. Companionship being much more than just a sex. And when those connections are made, a new less expensive companion isn't going to even draw my attention. In short, the dollar rate isn't what decides for me who to see, it is the lady herself that decides for me if I'll see her. In short a lower dollar rate won't undercut my client loyalty nor will it affect my choice in companion to see Hope that makes sense A rambling RG

I'm with Nat on this one.... the rate a lady chooses is up to her, and her only. There is no set local price. We don't know the reasons behind why someone decides on a rate to charge, and we have no right to pass judgement on them for what they decide. Charging a lower rate doesn't mean the person has no self-respect. It could mean they are comfortable providing their services at that rate. Or it could mean they need the money. Or it could mean many things. Similar things have been said about providers who choose to offer 15-minute specials, and I firmly believe none of us has the right to look down our noses at the girls who choose to do so, and I belive the same about the rate issue. What other girls charge has no effect on my business. My clients come to see ME, and I believe most of them would no matter what I charged. I am not concerned about 'losing' clients to lower-priced providers. Clients don't 'belong' to us anyway.

Not only from the comments so far, I'm sure many would agree that you are making a good argument for June ;-) Some of the leg work has already been started to continue delivering on a great party all of you (we hope), will still get to enjoy. With that said, we'll have a firm date before the end of the week. Cheers for now! :)

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I was on the road doing some errands.. usual BAU sort of stuff... Sitting in line at a red light.. and B A M... I get rear-ended.. I get out of the truck and l find a young student girl with this bewildered look on her face.. to say the least... What happened ??? I saiz..??? "I hit the gas instead of the breaks..!!" I take the time to look at the truck, and apart from a few additional scratches on the bumper.. it looks pretty much straight... Her little Toyota took the majority of the brunt... It was obvious she really felt bad and you can see she is just thinking of the aftermath of the whole ordeal... cost /insurance etc... money she probably cant afford to part with for something like this. " try and be a little more careful.. and drive safely... have good afternoon, and take care..." D.

Experience doesn't necessarily come with age but with circumstance. But if we are to speak in generalizations the more years obviously and more than likely the more experiences. But why compare? This business is as unique as those involved in it. I will say that when I was in my twenties and having sex with some older men I too wanted it over quickly,( I mention my twenties because my first sexual encounter was at 19, then I had a boyfriend my age until my 21 bday) not in all cases but in some. When someone young-just recollecting my own experiences-has sex with a much older gentleman and the signs of age are there it can sometimes be less than pleasant. As I've matured the physical signs of age in a partner mean less and the other attributes they have are far more important, intriguing and seductive. I want to be with men now that are confident, sensitive, humorous, fun, I could care less about what they look like, but I do care how they treat me, others and themselves. These traits weigh heavily on determining my sexual attraction and chemistry with them. We could argue all day and night about some young people are mature and some older are less mature, so on and so on. There are exceptions to everyone and to every situation. But again if generalizing, and you are an older man, significantly older than your partner don't be surprised if the sex is one sided and short lived, lol.

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