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I don't see how spending time with a fellow SP, who essentially could be viewed as a coworker , is at all comparable to hanging out with a client . It's not the same, and I don't see any form of double standard. That said, there ARE gatherings with SPs that include hobbiests. Ottawa holds a social four times a year, and Halifax does once or twice as well.

My lawyer comment was not a quote from you. It was an example. In any event you posted a question and I thought my comment was fair. I'm seeing way too many times recently when someone posts something, they get comments back, and then it turns into a great debate. I'm not here for those debates and was simply trying to offer my perspective and response. Sorry if I misunderstood your OP. I'll leave it for others to provide you their advice. Cub

The word "fantasy" in adult life. Makes me shudder Nowhere in my personal life, business life or my playtime hobby life do I have any time or desire for "fantasy" As far as this life often referred to as a fantasy....... for me it is real life. Nothing like meeting someone you really want to meet... drink some wine, chat, laugh, bond, get nekkid, make out, dfk, some good old pussy eating and cock sucking topped off with a slow passionate fuck or an old school good hard fucking. Now that's real no matter where I am and how it happens. Maybe we can be friends too ! I just don't ask you to marry me OR see me off the clock. If I wanted a "fantasy", I would take some shrooms, maybe a few extra, find Peter Pan and fly around the fucking world. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Sorry if I offended anyone.....But that's just me.

Like Cleo said there is no double standard .... there is no real comparison. Also like Cleo said there are socials. I have been to two and they are a blast :) If there is one in Hali again or maybe you can get involved in arranging one in St John's then even better. Unless an SP has retired and wants to be friends and hang out which I do have now........ I would never ever expect that to happen otherwise. They do like to hang out with me when I pay them tho.... maybe even have fun and be happy !! :) That's how we all should roll....I believe. Unlike my ex wife. I ended up paying her PLENTY to NOT hang out with me.....EVAR...AGAIN!!. She still wasn't happy damnitt ........... ;)

No "double standard" at all. SP's hanging out makes perfect sense to me, lots of common ground there, they can be social, compare notes, share experiences and even blow off some steam if need be. This is a pay for play game and being friendly is one thing, being friends is completely different and quite unrealistic. Peace MG

Just my take .... I get together with like minded ladies in the biz to network. I love some of my colleagues dearly, they have helped me infinitely in touring plans, avoiding bad dates, dodging drama, and sharing experiences. I don't get together with my colleagues to chat about parents, kids, my personal life or theirs. I don't visit their homes, and they don't visit mine. We meet for dinner and drinks... sometimes for hours... because they can relate like nobody else can. Although they all know what I do, I don't talk much about my sex work with my personal friends, so it's nice to have that connection. A date with a client is not at all the same thing, to me anyways.

SPs and MAs are professionals that provide a service which has a cost. For us the clients it is their time, intimacy, services and companionship that we buy. That isn't to say that an SP/MA and client would never meet socially or 'off the clock' but it's not nor should be their business model or our expectation. I think of it this way. I pay a lawyer for his/her advice. They get my $ and I get their advice. Would 2 lawyers meet socially? For sure. But should I expect a lawyer to meet with me, provide their advice and I don't pay? I just call it a 'social' meeting? No I'm not sure if I've explained it well but for me - I totally get it and have no problems with the relationships I have. Cub

Every MA is different.., every one has a different style as well.., and off course there is other factors such as chemistry can affect the entire session... Every MA also has different rate scales.. my opinion is if you are interested in an specific Service contact the lady (ies) that interest you and be straight forward with your questions so that you can get straight answers ;)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/th%C3%A9r%C3%A8se-casgrain-feminist-icon-quietly-shunted-by-harper-government-1.2719588

That depends.....How hairy is your front side? ;-) Jk.

You explained it perfectly and I fully agree with what you said here, coworkers and clients are different kind of acquaintances, one can become personal, the other one like you said is not impossible but less likely. However in none of them is cool to expect a personal rapport to happen and even less cool to question why it hasn't/won't. Also, in this particular scenario mentioned by the OP, the fact that some ladies here hang out with each other doesn't mean they do it all the time or that all ladies do it.

This is not a business like any other. A woman, yes, even an SP is free to choose who she wants to be intimate with. Denial of sexual services because of age is not a Human Rights violation. Forcing a woman to see someone she doesn't wish to see would be tantamount to sexual assault And anyone who would even consider doing such a thing IMO has no respect for women. SP or not, a lady is free to choose who she wants to be intimate with RG

Got a nice little message from a friend I haven't spoken to for ages. Her message popped up just at the right time... it gave me a smile!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/beverley-mclachlin-chief-justice-deserves-apology-from-pm-international-jurists-say-1.2718342

Your asked for feedback, and started a thread which is going to elicit honest discussion and comments about the themes many of us providing sexual services experience with men seeking our services. Those themes inevitably result in generalizations to achieve a very particular task, which in this case was to unpack the various reasons why some SPs choose not to see men under a certain age. I don't see any disrespect happening here. And, if you truly feel that you exude respect and maturity, consider taking the advice graciously given here about how to tactfully approach service providers in seeking their company. Good luck! Anna

I originally posted this as a response to an existing thread - it really should have been in the reco section. In a word - "Yummy". She has many virtues: shy, honest, curvy, willing to please (YMMV) and above all; genuine. French background but speaks English very well. Communication was not a problem for me. I'm smiling just thinking about her. I am very happy with my experience because it wasn't assembly-line. She is a shy person by nature, but she provided a warm, relaxed and welcoming atmosphere. That meant a lot to me. I had some requests which she happily accepted. She isn't a spinner, but man - there's a wonderful gfe feeling about her. She is someone who you can really like, trust and develop a very nice rapport. She is not a high-intensity, movie-groaning, PSE lady. She's all natural. For those who are looking for long labia - she's got 'em. For those gents who are looking for a gentle, and sensual experience, I strongly encourage you to book some time with Rebecca. Recommended - Yep Clean - Yep Attentive - Yep Non Enhanced - Yep Sensitive to your needs (unless you're an AH) - Yep

Happy Birthday to Midnite-Massage! Hope you have yourself one fantastic day luv!!! :D

I just can't express how much I enjoyed this. It was fun. That's all I can say. REALLY REALLY REALLY FUN! :dncdick: YAY! This btw .. is for Bre.. who is training this week at CMJ West.. and Holly. My only regret is that is kinda ruined me for the Mansion Party.. but that's ok.. cause it was AWESOME!

A very Happy Birthday to Malika! I hope you have yourself one incredible day beautiful!!! :D

Thank You to our Many Members Who Came out & Attended our first ever Weekend Long Event! If you missed out - be sure to stop in and say hello to the Many New Ladies who have recently Joined the Team! Quickly becoming the Next Top MA's Rini http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9390 Sophia http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9342 Lynzee http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9341 Bre http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9427 KaraLynn http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9391 Chelsea http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/album.php?albumid=9290 Bre's 1st Reco! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=187585 Chelsea Reco! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=183547 Sunday Evening Jewel 4-10 Adrianna 4-10 Mon July 28th Rini 10-4 *NEW & Now Solo* Bre 10-4 *NEW & Now Solo* Myla 12-7 Courtney 11-7 Maria 4-10 Tues July 29th Lexie 10-4 Bre 10-4 *NEW & Now Solo* Melodie 11-7 Myla 12-7 Maria 4-10 Brianna 4-10 Wed July 30th Chelsea 10-4 Maria 11-7 Jewel 11-7 Daisy 4-10 Thurs July 31st Chelsea 10-4 Lynzee 11-7 *NEW & Now Solo* Courtney 11-7 Myla 4-10 Brianna 4-10 Fri Aug 1st Chelsea 10-4 Lauren 11-7 KaraLynn 11-7 *NEW & Now Solo* Myla 4-10 Brianna 4-10 Sat Aug 2nd Adrianna 10-4 KaraLynn 11-7 *NEW & Now Solo* Daisy 4-10 Sun Aug 3rd Rini 10-4 *NEW & Now Solo* KaraLynn 11-7 *NEW & Now Solo* Lynzee 4-10 What Others Have Said About their Experiences Courtney http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...light=courtney Veronica http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...light=veronica Myla http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthr...highlight=myla Evangeline http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=183804 www.clubcmj.com 613-523-6199

When a woman lays down and her hips kinda stick out just a little bit- and then dips....towards her mound. yep. THAT.

Happy Birthday Malika.... May your day be amazing....

I think this is a very useful thread. Other threads have discussed the nature of the relationship between the SP and the client or hobbyist in the context of the time they spend together. That relationship has been described as indulging in a fantasy - on the hobbyist's part. It's a good way of describing it. It's a good way for the hobbyist to remember it. I can understand where the question comes from and I believe the posts have addressed the question. If one is single and lives alone and one has enjoyed an intimate encounter with a SP, particularly a SP who has, through her skills and professionalism made that encounter very personal to the hobbyist, there is a danger when reflecting on the encounter, of the hobbyist slipping over the edge of the boundaries of the relationship. While that may be thought of as a tribute to the SP the hobbyist has to recognise the reality that to cross the boundary may be a genuine cause of concern and discomfort for the SP. A reality check, thinking of the true SP/hobbyist relationship is always a good thing. Hope this is helpful.

Happy birthday! Hope it's a great one.

To A Sweet Wonderful Lady!

Happy birthday malika

Some sps have a social rate for clients. So money is still exchanged for these times. If you ask the guys if they get this time for free they will tell you otherwise.

My very best wishes to you, Malika. I hope you have a fantastic day with friends, and that the coming year be filled with plenty of travel to discover new cities and countries. Best, toine

Let's not confuse things. Legal or not - we will retain the right to see who We choose.

Happy Birthday to Midnite-Massage! Hope you have the best birthday ever :) xoxox

Happy Birthday Malika!! Wishing you the best.

Happy Birthday to you. I'd sing if I could.

Happy birthday Malika. Hope it's the best.

I wish you a wonderful day and may all your wishes come true. I hope you enjoy this day very much. Stay yourself. Happy Birthday, my sweet friend! [emoji182]

Happy Birthday Malika have a good one

Happy Birthday Midnite Massage have a good one

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you Malika! Best wishes for a great day and year ahead. MN2

I am looking forward to this week get to see a lady I have not seen in too long so I just know it will be a good week. What are you looking forward too....

Happy Birthday Midnight-Massage.... I hope your birthday is the best ever.

Happy Birthday Malika Enjoy your special day RG

Watching Whales all afternoon... never seen so many in one day.

Some only know about advertising on bp, and some who may know about other places to advertise have zero interest in advertising on those other places. Even tho cerb is free to post on, it can be time consuming for someone not fully computer patient to register, set up a profile, load in pics, then go find the correct place to post an ad, find out that symbols and the current nonsense in ad titles are not permitted here, and feel like they've outstayed their welcome, they are not allowed to post, then they leave again. (not saying that they aren't bright enough to figure out that ad titles have rules and that if they followed the rules, the ads are still OK, but first impressions matter. Basically if BP isn't broke, no need to seek other places. Sps don't determine their rates, services or professionalisms based on the advertising site. Nor does the fact that they've chosen a site that some consider unworthy determine their rates, services or professionalism. You can't just automatically assume that the sp who posts on one site is somehow unworthy, nor can you automatically assume she is untrustworthy or less truthful. People who advertise on ad sites with forums, (or those who choose to avoid sites like that), are simply making advertising choices. neither right nor wrong, good or bad. An ad site, in other words, has no attached stigma. It is only those who somehow decided, even without ever using it (sp and clients alike) to attach one to it. Sps and clients who use it, this stigmatized advertising site, know better. They use it because it works.

sorry for the grammer im French and that is y I don't post a lot.

There are a lot of ladies who advertise in both places, so I would think the gentlemen have the freedom to look in both places. I agree that Cerb offers "some" safety that BP does not, but the fact is, Cerb is also a community that does not allow any negative comments, so there is some uncertainty here also. The good thing is, if you dislike the questions about BP girls, you can simply ignore all threads about BP. You have that freedom, just like others have the freedom to do the opposite. This is a community for both the ladies and the gentlemen to share information, and I don't think that info has to be exclusive to Cerb.

Nipples - hands down. The bigger and harder the better.

Sounds like Sierra to me.

it's on the second floor (back door) above a pizza place west side of merivale (1010?). Mila and angela (angie) share. both great but no walk-ins. Make appointment. I'm certainly returning.

How did you contact the ladies?would you give us an example of pm or email sent? I am someone that has no problem with ANY ages however it depend how you contact me waiving dollars like carrot to a donkey is a huge turn off for me

In this lifestyle, speaking in generalities of course, with age comes with maturity. Where as a young man may think he's god's gift, with age comes a maturity, the realization that a gentleman knows he isn't god's gift, but he knows and appreciates that he is going to see one of god's gift, the Goddess he is sharing a hour or a few with. And he appreciates the time the lady has set aside to see him. He does not view her time as an entitlement for him. As has been suggested, contact a lady, build a rapport. When the time is right ask if she will see you. Offer to pay a deposit in advance (there are many well recommended ladies here on CERB in case you are worried about sending money in advance) plus volunteer verification information (your real name, board handle confirmed by PM, email, an unblocked contact phone number) a reference if you have one. She may need other information if you don't have a reference. And btw the ladies can be trusted with this information Be open, forthcoming, show you are more mature than your age, and you may get an companion agreeing to see you despite your youth. And if she declines your request, say thank you and move on. Even if you give her verification information, doesn't mean she owes you an encounter. Be mature at all times, even if you are declined A rambling from a fifty something bald man RG