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There. Finally found the letter that I mentioned yesterday from Toronto City Council (in the form of a JPG image) to Premier Wynn. It will be presented tomorrow on the National Day to Stop Violence Against Women. Thank you to the people who care about the safety of women! And

The censors are a work in progress, I am always working to make sure we have the LEAST issues obviously. This month has been very stressful so cut me some slack and I assure you were are working out the bugs. Some people are still trying to post sexual services, if you would all stop then the censors would not be an issue right!? Makes my job (and the other mods) very hard. We will work out the bugs.

Over 11 or so years in the business I've learned not to get angry. I don't even get frustrated anymore. I just say, if you can't enjoy it don't do it. So I enjoy the job and take pleasure in it. However, I am a bit mad at this new stupid law and wanted to write a letter. If you have a letter or a sentiment for our dear government, please feel free to share. Here it is: Dr Mr Harper, On the eve of C36, I present my life as a downtrodden, needy, and damaged woman forced into the sex trade by my own bad judgement and a number of shadowy pimps: I am 30. I have two university degrees and am starting a third degree in 2015. I spend my days smiling, laughing, and being happy. I am on my way to a great career. I have travelled the world. I like myself. I am healthy and in great physical form. I have friends and lovely family. I struggle with certain things, just like any human being alive. I speak two languages (unlike Harper and MacKay). I am an engaged, ambitious, and productive member of society. I pay my taxes. I have no addictions- not to drugs, not to drink, not to exploitative men. I am a companion, or cuddler, or woman, or whatever the linguistic result of your semantics war. I now live with a little more fear and paranoia thanks to C36. Thanks, Mr. Harper, for saving me from myself. I have a terrible life and I am in need of rescuing. However I'd like to point out that the worst thing in my life is surely YOU. You're worse than any pimp: you instill fear, you disrespect, and you create danger where none existed before. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Sincerely, Cara ps. I'd like to add, as a celebration of irony, that I've had domineering men in my life before and I've always had the strength and support to say no to their domination. Now with your new laws and assumed authority, you are in fact the one man in my life I cannot refuse or say no to. Of course it's great to be in a situation in which I can't say no or protect myself from a guy. A Christmas present indeed.

From all the ALO staff: We are very happy to be part of this amazing community Loneskater and Mister T did a great job. This 2 awesome guys don't get any benefit from this event, is just to keep us together and we all should appreciate that. Also want to thank Southie for his help thru night, all the beautiful ladies and amazing gentlemen that joined the event. Honey man of course. And much more Alexxandria

You've beat me here .... :icon_wink: Being located in Montreal (and in Ottawa yesterday for that), my involvement was somewhat limited to doing things from a distance (i'm saying i had the easy job of the lot for this event). Having been in town a couple of weeks ago, maybe back in October, when i visited the venue before things went into full swing, that the brunt of the work was born by Loneskater's and Alexandria's shoulders. I've seen what was put in in terms of efforts and major investment, both in time and money, over the past few days, including yesterday, to make this happen. Cleaning, decorating, changing lightbulbs etc..... And Murphy was at work; what could go wrong in a building like this did go wrong. My vantage point was particular this time around; I helped organized but was also a spectator to the organisation (if that makes sense). I know, as i'm sure all of you are, that none of us organizers are in this to make money, just to bring members of the community together for a good time. As a sidetone, I've also gotten feedback from our performers overnight; they've enjoyed doing their numbers for us and stayed a little bit with us afterwards. Lengthy note, i know, just to tip my hat to my colleagues.

When I first entered the adult entertainment industry I was young and at the time it was for the money and the fact that I could have more freedom with my time (spending more time traveling, hanging out with friends and family) etc...However As I have grown up and tried different professions in this industry (Massage, Independent Courtesan & Dancer) I have gained so much more insight, memories & friends! It became more about the connections I was making with people and learning more about myself as well. I am a people person and I am very genuine with my service and my personality really does shine! I love making people happy & relaxed, chatting with all different types of people of different walks of lives is so exciting to me! Although of course (being honest) the money is great (especially when I am in school) and dont have to seek out loans and incur debt while still maintaing a comfortable lifestyle for my lovely fur baby (my dog) & I Hee Hee Just my 2 cents :P

I just love sex! Noncommittal, hot passionate sex! It's the best kind. Being with someone new or someone that you haven't seen in awhile is always so exciting! Having different lovers fulfilling different sexual 'needs' is, to me, the perfect world. And, conventional dating in my age group seems to be more about getting married and settling down, so I need some new friends that think like me in regards to sex. Thanks for existing, this wonderful community! I was lost until I found you!

In addition to my last post and in response to Lester, I don't believe a complaint from a neighbour would change anything. LE still has to get in the building and knock on the door. The MA and gentleman can still just ignore the knocking at the door. The only scenario that could be different is if the neighbour makes specific complaints about criminal activity going on there and LE gets them to swear an affidavit in support of obtaining a search warrant. That being said, most of the Judges I know would not grant the warrant without very specific allegations from the neighbour. Speculation alone would be insufficient. IMO, the neighbour would have to go as far as saying they have seen money exchanged and overheard it was some form of solicitation. BUT, in any event, LE still can't just bust down the door in executing the search warrant, so we're back to the sanctity of private locations. To go further, even if one were charged (which would be a wrongful arrest IMO), the neighbour's credibility could easily be torn to shreds by defence counsel and if the search warrant is quashed, all evidence derived therefrom is inadmissible and charges will be dropped. From speaking with lawyers, law professors and judges, I have been told that the real purpose of the legislation is to focus on what is visible on the streets and go after human trafficking. A noble cause. I hate the thought of human beings forced into the industry. The legislators are not interested in what goes on in the privacy of the nation's bedrooms (or hotel rooms :icon_wink:). IMO, the collateral effect of this will push the industry more in the closet and what happens in private locations will stay private. Additional Comments: In response to Vivero's post yesterday, I'd like to point out that raids have been made at some spas in Ottawa in the past few years, even before this new legislation was on the radar. It does happen. I was fortunate enough not to be there when they occured and have to deal with the stress that would entail. But I was told by a lady I know well what happens. Essentially, LE shows up but does not try to create a panic or be too forceful. They ask politely if they can just come in and check things out because they want to make sure that the conditions are clean and safe, and make sure the girls are ok and no one is being forced to work there against their will. Once LE realized that the MA's are there on their own accord (and it really is their choice), LE left without the threat of any charges. I was told that the gentlemen who were there got a pass and LE did not ask them for ID or interview them. It was all about the safety of the girls. And this goes to the heart of this matter. IMO, private locations are safe from raids because of the process involved to execute a search warrant. Public places are not. However, I believe spa's are a bit safer for the MA's as opposed to being independent. If LE tries to shake down all the spa's, alot of these very same ladies would go indy and this may increase the risks by being one on one with an idiot in private (I do acknowledge that indy's have their own safety practices, but still). The effect of closing down all spas is the exact opposite of what this legislation is intended to be. So I do not expect that the manner in which raids have been conducted in the past will change with this new legislation. And for those places that are doing human trafficking - they have it coming and I believe charges are well deserved, and I would commend LE for a job well done in those cases.

Thank you for an amazing night. You guys always organize a fun evening but last night was a game changer. The venue (and the food!) were out of this world. Great seeing old friends and tons of new faces. I really enjoy getting the chance to talk to you guys :) You collected 3 boxes of toys!!! The generosity of this board warms my heart, thank you. I'll be dropping them off tomorrow (..I'm not too hung over today, I swear). Thank you again <3

Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to put this together and for making me feel so welcome at my first social. It was great to meet you all!

Kudos to Mistert and Loneskater for organizing the biggest Ottawa social to date which was awesome. Special thanks to ALO for their generosity (thanks for the drink) and the folks who provided the spectacular entertainment. Also want to give a shout out to Honeyman for his contribution of honey samples. And to everyone else who came out and made this an event to remember, just goes to show that we have a nice group of people in our community. My only regret - not being to stay longer. The question is, can we look forward to a Valentine or March Break social?

These socials just keep getting better and better! Thanks Skates, MrT and certainly cannot forget Alexxandria for a great time. Locale was perfect, food was great, music was right on and wow, even a Burlesque show! It was really great seeing everyone there and meeting new Cerbies. Thanks again for a wonderful evening! -Alg

Yeah. I've actually given up on a couple of posts now because the censor insisted that I had included proscribed words, and I read and re-read my post but couldn't find the culprit. Another post that I did ultimately finish took a while to fix (and the problem certainly wasn't on the word list). I almost included a note at the bottom of that post about "you wouldn't believe how long it took me to post this because..." but it kind of sabotaged the substance of the post itself so I struck it off. And yeah, it's embarrassing to read some of the weird Franken-posts of the past that are now a weird collage of the original text, substitutions of whole and parts of words, and newly inserted phrases. Sigh. I will also say that... this is changing my sense of the place and making me second- and third-guess myself as I post. I'll work on that, since it's up to us to sustain the community if we want it sustained. But I definitely feel an off-putting level of scrutiny and fear, and it makes me annoyed at the fully intentional chilling effect of this messed-up legislation. I also realize that mod will already understand everything I'm writing here and is enormously more frustrated by the whole thing than I am. I'll try to come up with some constructive suggestions so I can help fix the problem instead of just pointing it out.

I got into this cause it's just plain fun! Getting to meet lots of new and exciting people all the time is a real benefit of this. Doing something with my hands is a real bonus too, as I'm very good with my hands, as well as other parts of me ;-) The money is just a perk, and although I have a 'day job' that I would never give up (I LOVE my job!!), it is great to be able to get paid for something you do well. Some get into this for the money, and some because they feel they have to, but for me, it was just for the fun of it!

At least she's not saying, "I love Satan!", but for some reason "I love Jesus" seems spookier.

I'm fortunate enough to not have a "lifestyle" to support. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs. My "day job" pays the majority of my bills. Right now a lot of my extra cash goes to training for said "day job", travel, paying off my student loans, and stashing it away for a raining day.

I'm having issues with the censors. I know the overall changes are a huge ordeal and pain in the ass and still a work in progress, but I think something has unintentionally gone awry. I don't appreciate the way the censors are automatically changing words to other words, and also affecting words within other words. Including not just new posts (which we can preview and change before posting as needed), but every single post on the site, and posts made weeks or months ago that we can't edit now. It's making people's posts make no sense and look like idiots. I was reading a post I made a few weeks ago that made sense at the time, and completely innocuous words I wrote are now changed to other things and what I said doesn't even make sense now, and I can't edit it. I would rather see dots everywhere and let people figure it out than see things like in-call changed to Porn-Friendly or cli-cking changed to cloading and uplo-aded changed to upfuned, cli-ckable changed to clickable (those are actual examples). Most of them don't even make sense. I accept, understand and respect the need to actually censor words, but automatically changing words to other words to in people's posts after the fact is putting words in their mouth and it's weird. There must be a solution. Also, the new words don't actually show up in the "Preview", you only see them after you actually post live.

I heard of CMJ a couple of years ago actually and it sounded like a whole lot of fun, but didn't really have the ovaries to do it (they're way stronger than balls ;)) One of my friends got a membership last year and was telling me all about it. How great the girls were, how much fun they have, how great the money was, how the club worked as a private, as opposed to public, and he said I would absolutely love it. I'm insanely sexual, give amazing massages and am very extroverted. I believe that there isn't enough skin to skin contact in this world and that it would be a better place if people were closer and there was sexual abundance. My university background is in human sexuality and my career background is health and fitness with an emphasis in the musculoskeletal system and anatomy, so I know my way around the body. I've always been open to different ways to express my sexual energy and this is a really great fit for me and I love what I do. I've since introduced a few other ladies to this fabulous little underground world - Bre, Mackenzie and Rini. We're all kind of blown away at how sexually and socially satisfying it is. We get the odd "bad egg" but they're really few and far between. Great topic Tryphena. It's nice to share in our pleasures!

Malibu and I had this conversation last week. The input is candid and valued and I'm grateful to each and everyone of you that chimed into the conversation. Here are my thoughts on some of the things posted. I can really only speak from my personal experience at CMJ, as it's the only place I've ever "worked": Privacy: walking into the building - our building has the right amount of people coming and going for it to be comfortable and there is zero labeling on the outside of the building at all that it contains a Hostess Lounge. If there was a beaming sign outside that said "you sexy neighborhood rub n tug" I could see it being a bit horrifying. meeting someone in the hall - an incredibly rare occurrence that we, as hostesses, try to prevent at all costs. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so awkward shuffling someone back into a room, but we usually just laugh it off. We peek into the hallways and can hear the doors open and close so we typically know if someone is wandering the halls. cameras - we have cameras only in common areas and definitely not in the rooms or bathrooms. That's for our safety and security, not for our pervy viewing pleasure ;). Experience: bonding with your MA - I absolutely love getting to know my guests. Do all indies take the time to get to know you? I would say some do and some don't. I think it's the same with a spa. Thankfully we have CERB so we can chit chat about what you like prior to a session. Longer sessions are also very accommodating to cerebral massage. clock watching - even when we're having a great time (which is most of the time) we still have to be mindful of the time. If you're concerned for time, we encourage you to book more time. I/we want you to have the best experience and enjoy yourself and not all of us are made with exceptional internal clocks. Sometimes we're booked back to back, sometimes we're not and have a bit more leeway with time. I'm mutually concerned with not being late for my next appointment and making sure my current guest doesn't feel rushed (which I don't like either.) Concern for the MA: scheduling her own time - for the most part, we make our own schedules. If we need to be somewhere before or after and it's not a common last-minute occurrence, Jasmine says "no problem." If we want to run down the street to grab a coffee, bite to eat, or shop at bit, we do that too and give her a heads up that we're stepping out so she can let the members know we'll need a few minutes to get back. I've even gone to yoga class in the middle of a shift because it wasn't particularly busy and there were enough ladies on to cover. I can't speak for other spas, but CMJ is very accommodating. I even book sessions when I'm not scheduled because I can :) making sure she gets all the proceeds - to be completely blunt: this is our choice to make. The MAs that work in an establishment do so for a variety of reasons: safety, security, marketing, camaraderie (which is big for us), having a set schedule, not dealing with "idiots", not having overhead, running much smaller risks both personally, legally and financially, and the list goes on. If you're concerned for us and are staying away because we might get a smaller paycheck, we're definitely going to have a smaller pay check if you don't come see us at all. WealthyCowboy is very kind and generous to tip well, but we understand that isn't an option for everyone. Having heard the indy/spa discussion from a hobbyist's perspective, I definitely have a better understanding, so again, thank you for sharing. Malibu, thank you for asking. I could sped some light on team spa ;) Mad love, Gwen xoxo

One thing that EVERYONE can usefully do: if you try to post something that gets censored, and you think it shouldn't be, drop Mod a PM to say what (and why). It's not just forbidden words that can be blocked; ones that are OK can be explicitly permitted. I've just sent him one about "cir-c-u-m-stances" becoming "cirstances". And if something that's banned isn't on the published list of banned words, let Mod know so he can add it. The more we do this, the better the blacklist and whitelist will become and the less we'll have trouble with it. It's much easier for Mod to fix the bugs when he knows what they are!

Where there is hope, there is the chance to make things better. We're a great, creative bunch who have a different perspective on things. They zig, we zag and life continues on. Eventually things will catch up and work out, until then....WE CUDDLE!

I add my thanks to the organizers. I enjoyed my first social and made a few new friends I would otherwise never have met. Mission accomplished.

I add my thanks and congratulations to the organizers of what turned out to be a wonderful evening. For those that haven't been to one, Socials are an opportunity to make new friends and reconnect with old ones. If you missed tis one, signe up early for the next. For there will be a next, right?

Agreed nicolette. I've been single for a while now and it's slim pickings for women around here lol. Just feels nice to be held and touch. As the saying goes spooning leads to forking ;-) lol

Just a warning to ladies, I have been informed today by a lady in the Halifax area that she was contacted by someone stating to be nlwoodchuck wanting to meet at a hotel. It was unusual so she contacted me directly about it. Please be advised that I have been out of the scene for a long while and have no current intentions to return. Should you receive a message from anyone claiming to be nlwoodchuck it is an impersonation and you should not under any circumstances meet with this person.

Dear Gentleman, Santa received your wishes letter and judged that you had behaved well this year. Therefore, the delicious Mia Adore will offer you a very special day to reward you for your good behavior! Contact her to know more about it... Sensually Yours,

A excellent time last night, tip of the hat to Loneskater, Mistert , the beautiful Alexxandria of ALO with their generosity for door prizes. To those that kindly donated other door prizes and toys for toy mountain, just an all around great evening with classy individuals that know how to be generous, supportive and most of all good friends. Cheers everyone! An excellent event to meet new and familiar friends! Well Done everyone!

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Feeling very sad and depressed. This time last year my mother spent November and December in the hospital. January will be the first anniversary of her death. She died of bone cancer. :(

Dreading going to a late night floor hockey game... I must be getting old! Haha.. 10pm is way to late to be running around a gym!

Just bottled some samples of my honey to give as gifts at the social

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Anything is available to those who ask. Look and you will find ;) Cuddling is not a new thing. Usually it just happens naturally..... if its mutually desired.

I love cuddling, especially with this cold weather! Mmm snuggling...

Hi everyone! I am curious about how guys feel about seeing a MA who is independent versus seeing a MA who is employed by a spa or an agency. Does this factor into your decision making when deciding to see a new lady or is it pretty irrelevant? I've always wondered about the client's perspective on this. Thanks for any responses in advance.

First social for me...thanks to Mr T and Loneskater for all the hard work. It was fun for me to spin some tunes and contribute to the festive atmosphere. I apologise for not circulating more, but I did get to meet a few lovely ladies anyway. Cheers, Southie.

Wow, what an awesome social! I had a great time! Thanks for all the effort, patience and hard work it took to pull this off :D

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Wahooooooooooooo hehehe see u soon everyone

Well a little over a year ago, happened to be unemployed. Was heavily looking for another contract that was just not coming in for it was summer and in contracts mode there R 3 times of the year that R very bad and summer is one of them. So ended up being unemployed and living very poorly until mid October but before then there was son's back to school among other things... The Salvation Army ended up feeding us partly and completely dressing up son for school and paying both his book and all of his school supplies because I just couldn't... And now don't U think I was and still am living like a queen for I am really not. Then, at last, found another contract in mid October of last year which ended end December... So when I ended up being unemployed again winter of last year, around XMas time which is one of the other third bad time of a year for an independent worker, and knowing that I was a nympho so being multi-orgasmic I just decided yes go ahead sexy DO IT!! So et voilà !!! Did work for a short while for the last 3 months (ended contract end of last week) and U know what I missed being available SO much!!! Now and was before that 3 months, doing it to pay the bills but also to get all contentment ever!!! For I express myself in the companionship I provide so we both, the gentleman and myself, can just have so much a good time together and leave or end happy! Now if I would have known all the pleasure and satisfaction I would have had out of being a 'dame de compagnie' I would have started this profession so much longer before!! I love it and will continue to love it and love U gentlemen for all U R providing me and that hopefully I can provide U as a real 'dame de compagnie'!! Barbara xxxxooo

too hard to find proper parking downtown....

Even if money was the first reason someone decided to do this, it would not be the reason they would continue to do this.

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I agree if you are involved in this hobby and your partner / spouse thinks you are in a monogamous relationship and does not know about your hobbying then you are cheating.... I am not judging that just calling it as i see it. Just my opinion

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If I am interested in a girl. and have chatted or pm'ed her enough to get to know her and she has gotten my attention :) I will go to where ever she is. Indy or Spa, it doesn't matter to me. And if we have chemistry together I will probably repeat often :)

I have seen both MAs who are Indys and those who work at spas. To me, it's more about the connection with the MA, as opposed to where she works. My concern with spas is not running into people I know, but being there if there is a "visit" from bylaw officers or law enforcement. I've read about this happening in Toronto spas on other boards, but wasn't sure if this also happens in Ottawa. I'm relatively new to the hobby (within the past year) and always make sure to visit reputable spas. Anyone else have concerns with this, or am I just being paranoid? Thanks.

Ok, first of all, no reputable lady in her right mind is going to throw you under the bus, word would spread quickly and that would be the end of her career. I used to work with young female ladies and talk to them about gang violence, so let's just say I've been to criminal court more times than I'd care to admit to (not for me lol) .. I've also been working in this industry for a lot of years and I've never personally had an issue with police even when I was young/stupid and worked on the streets (over 20 yrs ago). A police officer does not have to identify him/herself and can take whatever measures he/she wants in order to bust you. They do not at any time have to admit that they are a police officer. Ladies get more victimized in this situation then men do (sorry boys but it's true) and there's often bribery/extortion etc. to provide favours in exchange for not being charged/sent to the clink etc. and I can see a whole can of worms being opened up where that's concerned with this new bill being passed .. for ladies. This was VERY common back in the day when we all worked out on the streets, many moons ago, it still happens but dropped a bit when everyone moved indoors. I hear a lot about this in terms of incidents in the US and other countries, once in a while here in Canada, but not so much, although I'm pretty sure more goes unreported. If an ad looks too good to be true, it more than likely is and there's usually super hot, young looking ladies used as pictures in the ads. They also usually use a bargain basement price to give you that double whammy, lure you in type scenario. And a lot of times, I'll even know there's a bust going on, because sometimes, they've used established porn star pictures. Stick with reputable sp's, do your research. I know it's hard at times for you boys to maintain control over the little head at times, but use the big head, common sense. One thing I do know to the best of my knowledge that LE has never used a web site claiming it to be their own in order to put up a sting and as far as I know they've also never claimed to have reviews or be reviewed. It's always some super hot pics and a bargain price, even 2 for 1 deals. If you google her number and there's no history at all, she's got no web site and no reviews, chances are it's a sting or she's super new and I feel really bad for the new ladies trying to get into the industry right now. Sorry for the rambling lol but we ladies can get more charges laid against us now and will be open to more victimization than you guys will. I'm not trying to marginalize your feelings, worries etc. that would be wrong. Our issues are equally important, but ladies can get a whole stem of charges and risk being blackmailed/extorted wherein you get one.

I am not a lawyer either. Everyone needs to remember, seeing an escort will not be illegal. Look at the cities that require licenses. Take your ques from the USA sting operations where Le is posing as an sp. She always gets the client to specify what specific sexual service he wants for the dollar amount. She will keep insisting he specify this until he does. The difference between the USA and Canada, is that in the usa it is a also illegal for the provider, so they also do stings on the providers too. Again, getting her to specify what specific service she will provide for the service. Here, that won't be the case as they are not making it illegal for us to sell our services. Btw, I personally would not even discuss any specific service even when behind closed doors, until AFTER the money has been paid. You can clarify the amount of time you are purchasing just not the specifics. That's my opinion. Stings never progress to an actual sexual encounter either. Take your cues from your escort (lingerie model, stripper). And for gawds sake, asking if she is a cop won't get you anywhere. If it is a sting, they are going to lie and say no. Touching her boobs won't work either. Stick with reputable providers who have a presence on reco boards and recommendations to back them up. We're not going anywhere, just changing how we advertise and market ourselves. If seeing someone new that no one else has met, well go with the assumption that you will be spending time with a lady sitting and talking your time together. Bottom line, as a hobbyist, it will be illegal for you to solicit (asking) for sexual services. Just don't ask.