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Not to mention that it would be hard to keep this thread going if there was no Barb's :). This has always been my favourite club in Ottawa, since I first came here. It's full of great memories for me, of amazing women and fun times, of dances in the cr with spectacular beauties (sometimes more than one at a time :)), of friends to meet up with and chat with, of being greeted by gangs of hotties in the days when I went there a lot; a good place to relax and admire and be well entertained. Thinking of the duos with Ariel and Scarlette, and Ariel and Claire Heavens, and Ariel and Bridgette, and just Ariel :); sexy Josée from Montreal; Mel, Jenny, Nicole, many many more. I don't want this to sound like a dirge, and I hope that the place will thrive and be around for years to come. But I am feeling sentimental tonight, for all the good times. At Barb's. Here's to it!

I don't want this to sound like a dirge, and I hope that the place will thrive and be around for years to come. But I am feeling sentimental tonight, for all the good times. At Barb's. Here's to it! ah , yes ! the Sunday night oil wrestling , the limo rides on Monday nights and the bucket of beers on Wednesday nights . in the early 90's living just around the corner from barb's , friends and I saying we will just go for a couple to start the night off and than next thing we know the lights are on . Hmmm , good times , if I remember correctly , had a couple drinks don't you know ...... lol

I love kissing but because I advertise primarily massage, the kissing activities are kept for those I have built a rapport with in my companionship services. I have noticed a trend where men I have met for massage tend to set boundaries with intimacy..many aren't that comfortable with those activities so I prefer to build a rapport with people first and then if it happens, it happens. But I do love kissing....

I know this has been covered, but without kissing, what's really the point of all the rest. For me, this hobby is about intimacy. I realize that this is precisely why some providers would prefer not to kiss, but for me it really is crucial. Without it, no matter how great everything else might be, I'll be disappointed with the session. It doesn't rule out a repeat, as I've found with some providers kissing gets better over time, but it definitely makes it less likely.

Finally got a chance to come in this weekend and try a couples nuru massage session with Rose. That was a lot of fun... my wife really enjoyed it. I'd done a solo nuru session with Rose before this -- she's such a cutie with a devious smile and, from the right angles, a truly perfect round butt. She's also quite personable, fun to talk to, and has some pretty ambitious plans of her own. Ran into Faye briefly on the way out, who has just a hint more of the girl next door look than you'd imagine from the pictures online (in addition to being pretty darn hot). The room had a bit more decor than a couple months ago.... the club seems to be coming together. I think Jessica is building something special with Brass. From what I can tell the girls seem to genuinely enjoy working there.

so he turned to lyla's chicks for attention! (sue me.. there's 8.... but read it.. it's grrreat! oh nooo I've got rhyming disease!)

I am excited first time coming there to just relax and not anything else .. :) getting self prepared for next year's milestone lol thanks again everyone .. couldn't think of anywhere i would rather be after these really really bad months xo

In Halifax, I would recomend Mariner & Mariner Counselling, they are a couple but you can see either one of them or both. I met with Anne for a few months for some sexual issues, this was about 15 years ago but she was very kind and helpful, made me feel very comfortable discussing my issues, nice lady. They are both university educated with advanced degrees and licensed. Still in the same spot on Spring Garden Rd http://www.mariner-mariner.ca/

How important are kissing, cuddles and hug's in your sessions. For me, it is very important for the full enjoyment of a woman. I love a woman that kiss and cuddle. It's nice to be welcomed with a nice hug and kiss when you first meet. It's nice to say good by with a nice and kiss. Kissing is important in any encounter with either SP or MA, it can make or break a session. Sex is good, but without kissing or cuddling in between, it's just not the same. Cuddling and talking after the deed has been done is a nice way to relax and get to know a person. It's nice to be held and I find it more intimate some times then the sex itself. It shows that the person trust's you allow you to cuddle with them. What's your opinion? Do you women like to kiss, cuddle and hug during the session with a new person? or only after a 2nd or 3rd session.

To add to that, most of the clients for male providers are likely to be men, not women. There still seems to be some level of embarrassment around that on the part of hobbyists, and that sets up a kind of feedback loop. Those who might have experience with male providers probably don't post about it here, so those who are looking for that sort of information will not be drawn here, which means there's no reason for male providers to post here, and so on. It's unfortunate, because there is no source of reliable information about male providers, at least as far as I know. There is a site containing listings for MTF transgender providers, but its accompanying forum containing recommendations is virtually unusable.

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Cato and I spotted her on Saturday! Additional Comments: Bridgette and Kitty is a fond memory of mine!

Some lady's will not kiss... I usually ask. In Austria, the girls would not kiss... A recently gal in Nevada would not kiss... but another gal in Nevada a few years ago, kissed my socks off... lol... very passionate. I love kissing so basically if a lady doesn't kiss, or she only kisses very shallowly, I probably won't see her again. I've made exceptions... One lady would kiss minimally, but otherwise things were so good I saw her a few times. But the ones I come back to over and over again are the ones that kiss the best. The gal I've been seeing lately puts me in heaven the moment our lips meet.

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I agree kissing is very important but you must respect the ladies wishes. For me kissing is a deciding factor for repeat visits. Kissing = Passion!

I remember hearing that the owner had a lease for at least a few more years. I agree with Jack2000 - more lovely ladies than patrons isn't such a bad thing :-)

There was a different site that asked for photo verification holding a piece of paper with a specific thing written on it along with your SP name... what I did was I held the paper in front of my face and I wore the same outfit I had on in some of my pix. I sent it to them along with a msg saying I am not willing to show my face and I'm certainly not willing to send a pic of my drivers license. I also offer to send more pix of me wearing other things I have on in pix... They accepted it. It wasn't eros as I find them to be a rip off..Im sorry Id have to check my records to see which site it was. I'm with you, I would never do that as even if the site never uses it against you, a hacker can! To each their own but I feel its better safe than sorry. Good luck hon.

Rates are on their website, but only once you've logged in, which requires joining, I think. They're pretty much the same as other spas, though

I entirely agree with you on this but I think committing is a very strong word when it comes to something as intimate as kissing with someone you've never met. I personally never commit to anything especially with patrons I've never met, I do enjoy kissing but I wouldn't feel comfortable kissing someone with poor dental hygiene and if I commit to that then I'd be failing to provide something I promised, I recently read a thread about how there's no contract between us companions and our guests and having to commit to kissing or any other activity does sound like a contract to me. I like how someguy phrased his question 'if kissing may be allowed' which is a nice way to discuss his preferences with the lady he's planning to visit without making her feel obligated to it. My suggestion for those that want to make sure kissing is offered is to offer the same kind of commitment you're expecting from your provider, make sure to have impeccable hygiene at the time of your session and if she offers mouthwash use it even if you think you don't need it or bring your own,the travel size bottles are awesome for that and they sell them everywhere. Happy Kissing! :makeout:

i was on a really bad date (she ditched me 20 min into it) and i roamed around the area for a bit. after a while i stumble upon this old beat up looking building with this smoking hot blond standing in front of the the building as i walk by she ask if i want to come in and get a massage. Being young (only 19 at the time) it did not seem weird that a massage place would be open at 10:30 on a Wednesday but a bit drunk and still upset over the getting ditched i just went with it and end she taught me a lot of things that night :p overall it was a good night

Touching, cuddling, kissing are very important to me. I love sweetness. It makes the best dates...

No kissing feels weird except if it's a massage session. I'm definitely a kisser and a damn good one too! lol No kissing to me or a kiss on the cheek upon greeting is like someone letting you have only one potato chip and not another. So I'm sending my intention out to the universe to all the kissers... until then.

If we can't kiss i don't want to see you.It's my favorite thing! kissing and cuddling are a must! Otherwise you may as well watch porn lol because you don't need me.

A session without the kissing or cuddling is just not the same. The lack of affection at home is the reason some of the men come to see the women here. Kissing is an important part the Intimacy and chemistry. Otherwise what's the point, you might as well stay home and be intimate with yourself :)

I have to agree with everyone kissing ,cuddling is what makes everything happen !! I have had only one bad experience with no kissing, cuddling. I thought to myself WTF. I come showered teeth brushed no bad breath etc..then I shower when I get there. I'm like Mr.Clean. I just wanted to leave. That was only once. So now if I PM a Lady I ask the ??? up front if the answer is No then I don't Go. The other 99.99% everything is amazing with the Ladies MA or SP. That is what makes everything happen. The best was a Lady I see on a regular bases one she sat on my lap I was totally inside. All we did for like 20 mins in that position was kiss and cuddle. After the session we looked at each other she said we definitely have to do that again. We did.. Kissing and cuddling makes for a HOT time.

For me kissing is probably my biggest turn on. Nothing gets me more excited than deep, passionate kissing with a beautiful, sensual and romantic woman. Running my hands through her hair or gently running my finger tip down her back...then pulling her in to the point of our bodies melding in to one...that's just hot! I've been told time and time again I'm a good kisser, and I've been fortunate enough to have been with many women who know a thing or two about kissing. As for hugs, I am a notorious huger. I pretty much hug everyone and anyone. Nothing says I care more than giving someone a genuine, heartfelt hug!

For me Kissing and cuddling is a huge thing that I think is crucial to the connection you have with the lady you are meeting. My most memorable encounters have been with ladies who right from the start greet you with a passionate deep... long kiss. Just my opinion

I think the "I don't want to know..." sentiment is completely legitimate. To open up a conversation about what you are doing, and why, could potentially result in a conversation your significant other is simply not ready to have yet. Ignorance is blissful, to a certain extent, and sometimes the status quo is preferable to change. For a lot of clients in the industry, there are financial dynamics between their significant others' and themselves, children, a property or multiple properties... I'm sure I don't need to tell you how complicated all of that is. Even if there's a glimmer of suspicion, I can totally see why someone would decide not to address it until they are ready (or they have to because it's overt). I guess the thing I like the least, to be honest, is when someone is 'almost caught' and/or 'caught' but feels like they've dodged a bullet and then proceeds to tell me about it. As a service provider and as a woman, I don't actually want to know when some of the clients I've met have dodged their own bullets, or the reasons they give their SOs to come and see me. There are some things about the lives of my clients that I simply don't want to know. I think that's valid. I have great (and I mean great) respect for clients who speak to me of their significant others with respect, and with a nuanced understanding of lives and how complicated they can be. The double life is a difficult one to lead, but I don't necessarily want to be privy to all of the details... I'm really sorry Someguy, but I don't want to hear about the moments where people have almost been caught, or been caught, and what their significant others think of that. It feels really personal and could (potentially) be disrespectful too, no?

I'm the self proclaimed Queen of Cuddles - hee hee!! :icon_lol: If a gent is not interested in snuggles, it sort of makes me feel...well, just not very nice. Compatibility is key in a fun, successful session - I loves my Snuggle Bunnies! ;)

Hugs are great, but sometimes hard to come by: :)

Mmm I love to cuddle and kiss Cuddling is so nice and intimate I love being held tight and I love the feeling of skin to skin, it's so sensual Kissing as well is important to me, kissing gets me so hott and ready Mmmm and who doesn't love hugs, I love getting a nice big tight hug...love love love it Kisses and Stay Sexy

As a fetish provider, I don't offer GFE (more like "friends-with-benefits" experience?) so kissing doesn't tend to happen. But hugs? Sure. I mean, as a very tall woman who offers Size Comparison, full-body contact and feeling enveloped are integral to the experience. But beyond that? Hugs are wonderful. They're a lovely way to welcome someone into my space and let them know they're... "not just a number", y'know? Hugs are important. :-)

I can't imagine a session with no kissing or cuddling...

Recently I had a second session with a Sp that I just started seeing. I asked for extra kissing and cuddling. It was more then I could ask for, she kissed me passionately for a while, and through out the session. licking my ears and nipples. At the end we just cuddled and chatted for awhile before it was time to go. It made it a fun and exciting date.

I had a similar wonderful session with my ATF this afternoon. Lots of hugging, kissing, and caressing , then cuddling and chit-chatting in bed with lots of laughter. Gosh, I just love to spend time with her!

I just had an amazing session with one of my favourite GFE MA's. Hadn't seen her for a while and I was a bit starved for affection and requested extra kissing and cuddles. I got more then I expected, kissing from start to finished. It's nice to be with a girl that enjoys kissing, especially when she has her eyes close and seems to be really enjoying herself. Plenty of cuddles, and several times we just had some nice tight hugs. Nothing better then hugging a beautiful sexy girl naked :). I left feeling happy and relaxed. Felt like a good makeout session with a girl friend when I was a teen.

No hugs? WTF No cuddling? Ditto No Kissing? Deal breaker. Did too much of that stuff with pros in Europe years ago before GFE. Now I would rather take care of myself if those are off limits.

Empty83 said it very nicely! The kissing, hugging & cuddling is very important to me. It is this sort of intimacy that is most important to me. Everything else is just icing on the cake so to speak. Without any of these 3 things aforementioned it would be a deal breaker for me. I always ensure the lady does these three things before confirming an appointment. Usually all one has to do is look at their profiles and it is all there in black & white, one of the things I love about this site. My 5 cents worth. ;)

Totally depends on the nature of the session. Most of the time I'm after some mutual affection and a sense of connection at least as much as any sexual "release". For these GFE sessions there's lots of gentle intimacy, strokes and cuddles, and laughter -- humour is one of the most important parts of a human connection for me and lets me know I'm comfortable and in a natural shared headspace with my companion. Plus kisses, cuddles, and just curling up and feeling each other breathe. But that said: sometimes I'm after something a bit more purely lustful and irrational, a little darker and fetishy, maybe with some roleplaying that makes the situation purposely artificial. In that case... sometimes that shift in context is part of the point, and affectionate strokes and cuddles would get in the way of that other emotional space you're actually aiming for. It's a matter of: which part of my sexuality wants to come out to play today? What I can tell you is that if I'm after that second kind of encounter, the lady will know in advance so we're both on the same page from the start (!).

I fully endorse everything Tiff wrote. There is an instant intimacy created by kissing. IMHO this adds greatly to any encounter. Of course, good oral hygiene is a must. There is nothing worse than kissing someone with bad breath. But, soft lips, sweet breath and an inviting, playful mouth are always welcome.

I love, Love, LOVE kissing cuddling and snuggle time with my guests! It gives each of us time to chat, snuggle and just run our hands all over each others bodies. Lots of heated passionate kisses before and sweet little pecks and smooches after while in each others arms is a perfect encounter for me! As an MA I find it very important to offer a very intimate and personalized in the moment encounter, finding my way there through kissing, and cuddling is all part of the fun :) Kisses! XoX

Extremely important. If it's not an option, I won't book. As someone else said, I can always give myself an orgasm alone, but those things, I can't. I understand that some ladies don't want to and respect that. However, that's my needs. Just like I wouldn't go see an RMT if I want a happy ending, or a MA if I want FS, I'll stick with the ladies that gladly offer what I love. =)

Another reason, which more that one SP has given me for excluding any kind of kiss from the session, is that it greatly increases the intimacy of the date. Thereby increasing the likelihood that one party will develop an undesired emotional attachment. Not everybody can always separate physical and emotional love. I can respect an SP wanting to minimize the chance of a guy getting an unhealthy crush (or vice versa). Overall I consider kissing a nice bonus, but not a requirement for good GFE date.

I am basically a GFE kinna guy there fore Cuddling and DFK must always be an option when I book a SP

I would agree with the general consensus. However, I don't think it's something that can always be expected and forthcoming. Many girls are reticent about the kissing for a number of reasons, health, and it is a very personal thing that they might reserve for their boyfriends or SOs. That said I do like kissing and cuddling and tend to go back and see the girls that are receptive.

To me, cuddling, kissing and hugging are part of the GFE that I crave and cherish so much. The whole GFE is why I go to see my ATF's again and again. I would venture that the time spent on cuddling, kissing and hugging contitutes about 70% of the total time I will spend with my beautiful ladies.

I think the vote is unanimous, especially with a "GFE" Thats the basis of what makes a girlfriend. It helps to break the ice, create comfort and enhance intimacy. Half the fun of an encounter is gently caressing and looking at a womans body after sex. Anything else just seems forced and robotic.

Kissing is something that turns me on no end and is connected to just about every part of my body. When done right, I crave more...passion, intensity. There is also something terribly erotic about the slipping and sliding of tongues that makes me envision the sliding of cock or wet lips, both above and below. Love that connection during as well although sometimes the passion sweeps you up and mouths are busy making other noises recognizable throughout the ages. It's different on this side of the fence because to me, it's more about your pleasure and sharing in that then getting what I want. I get what I like/want from what you are prepared to share/give. If you are a kisser/hugger/cuddler, then the visual of the "touchdown dance" ensues because I love those aspects. If you're not, I'm still going to enjoy just within the boundaries. I'm very oral and very hands on, that's my nature. Flesh under my lips and hands is like fresh air in my lungs. Breathing is just a little shallower without but still good.

Jesus, I'm getting a chubby just reading this...

This is a very common thing with the ladies... Always looking for the "Reason" the business gets slow at times and always looking for answers as to why they get no shows and cancellation more at different times of the year. Most NO SHOWS can be stopped by screening your calls properly. Use the Caller ID and CALL BACK the number to verify it. Most guys will not pull a NO SHOW on someone without having the decency to call and properly cancel if you have their number. They know that come appointment time one very upset SP is going to give them a call asking WTF! It's not 100% but it sure helps for those who screen calls. It also makes the call a little more safer as that phone number is now a connection between the guy and the lady... I doubt someone dangerous is going to want to leave a number that can be traced back to them. Most of the ladies look for reasons when things are slow. I guess most of us do that when the business we are in takes a drop in sales/traffic/work load/etc.... You can spend a good portion of your day trying to figure this one out but it's not really worth the effort. It's WAY easier to just plan for these lows (Put some money aside for the slow periods) and just accept that this is part of EVERY business and it will happen. Stop stressing out and trying to point a finger at what you think is causing the slowness as your just going to convince yourself of something that is probably not correct. We have been tracking patterns in this industry since 1996 and the answer for this is... (Drum roll please)... It has no pattern EXCEPT for a few obvious LOW spots. 1) The end of Aug is SLOW every year! (Kids out of school, getting ready to go back to school, family summer vacations, etc...) This is the most popular summer weekend in the tourist industry!! 2) 1 week before and 1 week after Xmass (No need to explain this one right?) New years day too? NOT... 3) January/February for 2 weeks every year (We sum this up to winter blues and getting your credit card statements from Xmass! but we never know what two weeks it will be but for sure 2 weeks around this time it does drop... one year we did not see this and come April we saw a real low drop for 2 weeks and that was obvious weather patterns (Long winter/early spring ... warm winter/cold spring etc...) it does effect this business and you never know when this is coming exactly... so just put some cash aside for these times. 4) First nice weekend of spring (A lot of the ladies take this time off too) 5) Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentines, long weekends, really large sporting events (etc)... they also effect the business. The rest has NO identifiable pattern. You can try to blame it on the economy as a low economy brings more people into this business causing more competition and the overall amount of "Recreational money" the guys have gets a lot smaller so yes the economy does effect it but a low economy BUT it also brings more guys (New guys) in to the mix as well so it's not hit as hard as one would assume. Remember money and sex are the two big things couples fight about... When the economy drops and the money gets tight the stress levels go up, the fighting between couples goes up and the sex stops!! FACT OF LIFE... and I hate to admit it but that is good for this business for all you ladies!! When economy starts to get good again business will decrease a little at first! It's OPPOSITE of what everyone ASSUMES! As for NO SHOWS... This time of year it will obviously be higher. Kids are still home from school, Family vacations, relatives coming for visits, back to school shopping, etc.. etc... and all those people taking time OFF work for family vacations makes other people have to work more (Overtime to cover shifts, higher work loads, etc) it's all relevant.... A lot of LAST MINUTE things come up this time of the year for the "Family Man" and well... kids and family (for most people) come first so recreational visits take a back seat so stuff will get canceled more this time of year. Picture this... The guy is all ready to come see the lady he has chosen and the door bell rings and it's his brother or uncle or who knows who just "DROPS BY" for a visit... URH!? Probably with his annoying kids and wife... (Many of us have been in similar situations) This happens EVERY YEAR... Come September 17th (Or around that time) once the kids are back in school and the routine is back... things will pick up. Summer sucks as a lot more things can get in the way or throw a guys schedule off. Don't spend all your time looking for reasons why the business slows down.... it happens to EVERY PROVIDER & EVERY BUSINESS ... It can not be busy 100% of the time and it does take a little planning and anticipation.