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Besides all the informative and exciting threads on the main board, there are over 100 social groups on cerb, covering everything from regional discussions (BC, Montreal, Toronto, etc.), to travel, to strip clubs, to favourite sex practices, breasts and bums, to dogs and cats :), and of course redheads! If you're new to cerb or are unfamiliar with the groups, just click on the Social Groups button under the banners at the top of the page, and it will take you to the group area, where you can explore, find people who share your special passions, and have discussions on a huge variety of topics. I spend a lot of my time on cerb in the group area, and the reason for posting this thread, besides a general reminder to people about the groups, is to say a warm thank you to all the members and participants in the social groups I interact with. It's a big part of my positive experience here on cerb, and I owe a lot to all those who post and who correspond with me about our common interests. Fun, information, great pics (really, really great pics :)), and interesting links abound. So thank you to you all, in RHAG, in AW, in IRE, and all the other groups.

Well her reasons could be simple prejudice or something completely different, but what ever they are I respect her right to have them. In particular because this is posted under FS providers, I think it is every woman's choice to see or not see anyone they choose (clients also). Perhaps it isn't at all what it one might think, maybe she had an "African-American" boyfriend who treated her badly and she doesn't need to be reminded of this. Some more mature SPs won't see younger men? Hem, should we complain to the human rights commission based on age discrimination? In an intimate setting, racial prejudice is acceptable to me; (heavens, did I just say that, yes, I did and only because I am both stupid and fearless) but in fact it is the only circumstance under which I will tolerate or stand for it even if I don't agree with it. I think she has the right to discriminate on any bases she chooses (in this case only), most of which would be completely unacceptable under any other circumstance. I also think it is possible to not be prejudice but not believe in or be comfortable with inter-racial couples (when one of them is you).

If he is a member here you should probably report him to the mod. You have the right to share as much or as little information that you feel comfortable doing, anyone not respecting that doesn't belong here.

This is a very sensitive subject but not one that should be pushed under the rug, as if it doesn't exist. Everyone has the right to choose who they have an encounter with SP and Hobbyist alike, our choice. I myself a Ebony(Black)/Native Companion was together and married to a white man for many years, we have 2 bi-racial sons. I have never dated a black male, may be because my family is so large and everyone is your cousin or distant cousin. I've always dated white men and that is just the race I'm use to or it may be because I started dated my ex-white husband when I was 15. I have no exact answer to why. I don't see many black males, 2 regulars as a matter of fact. Other races mainly Asian, bi-racial, Native and mainly White contact me. I see it as if someone doesn't want to meet me because of my ethnicity and stereotypes that is their loss and sad. They are missing out on a very nice sweet person but I don't let it bother me, I will admit it use to hurt my feelings and make me wonder what is wrong with me, why am I not good enough. Then I realized, I'm not the problem. For any one person that looks at me with those "racist" thoughts, their not in my books good enough to be even graced with my presence. There are many wonderful people who would and are delighted to spend quality time with me. To be blunt no matter the color on the outside of the SP, a kitty is a kitty and we all have unique personalities, looks, shapes, sizes, hair color and something special to offer. People are entitled to have their preferences but times have and are still changing, so may be it's time to think outside the box and try new things and types. I am open to seeing any race and legal age but it is all in the initial approach and contact, point blank. I have met a 20 year old that was more kind and respectful in person than a 40 year old. In terms of the SP not wanting to see black males, I think there are underlying issues that we will never know and that is her right and choice. SP's don't make these types of decisions for no reason, whether it was their upbringing, bad experience or whatever. She has made this choice for a reason but no two people are a like. IMHO I never base who I see because of a not so great and respectful encounter with Mr. A who is white and just crude and say well I'm not seeing Mr. B who is white because of Mr. A. Everyone is different and no two can and will be the exact same. Just my thoughts. All my Love, Lexy

Picture collectors are notorious. And what is sad is that some new sps will actually reply with them, then wonder what they did wrong when that guy still doesn't make an appt. Stuff on the internet is there for EVER. Sending more revealing pics thru email is always a mistake. You don't ever know who is really at the other end of that email. Your boss. Your neighbour tryiing to verify, is that really an sp next door. Oh, yeah, it is. Your brother. Your competition, who will then plaster the face pics all over the internet with slanderous statements. and more. If you show face pics in your ads, you have taken control of them. If you send them anonymously to someone anonymous, you don't really know what they will do with them. Before the internet ads, no one really had pictures to go by. No sps used them, no clients expected them. Then one pic showed in one ad. That was great, until the next ad had 3, so guy goes back to ad #1 and demands more pics. Then websites have multiple picture galleries. So guy goes back to ad #2 and demands more pics. And then the galleries weren't enough, so now we have to use face pics. Then face pics aren't enough, and now sps have to either have videos in ads or on their site, or allow webcam chat showing the face, OR NOW they have to accept the request to film the session or the client taking pics. I just tell guys who ask for more pics that at my age and stats in my ad, if the person is relying on pics to make their decision, to find someone else. I am never interested in seeing anyone who is only interested in that, and not the tone of my ads, and the sound of my voice, and the description of what I provide. I agree with Samantha that I think in order to be able to do this service for more than a minute, the sp/mpa are attractive. Maybe that sp is not that particular client's 'type", but even he would normally admit that definitely by societal standards, the majority of sps are above average in looks facially at least.

Georgiana Sweet has an incredible beautiful bum, not to mention excellent taste in lingerie. *blush* she's so beautiful.

Note to self: No late night drunken posting on here before the 22nd. I'd be ticked if I got banned or unintentionally insulted the ladies on the eve of the social. Additional Comments: Hahaha....nice try, ladies! I shall not be goaded into stupidity. I'm quite capable of doing it all by myself.

Everyone has a right to choose who and when. The problem here is it leaves you to do the dirty work...

A lady's boundaries are a lady's boundaries, and should be respected. Why she doesn't wish to see African Canadians, I don't know. But if forced to see a client she doesn't wish to see, for an intimate encounter, my guess, it will be a terrible encounter for both the gentleman and her. And really, if she has to have the encounter, it will be more like forcing her to see someone, less like a consensual act. Perhaps quietly you two can discus her reasons, but if she insists on her boundary, respect it. A rambling for what it's worth RG

She should go Indy; that way she will have the freedom to define her business plan and select the kind of customers she wants and those she doesn't. For an agency, that kind of "selection" may cause a problem for the credibility or the reputation of the agency. For the SP, she has the right to choose the customers she wants to offer her services, but, maybe, the agency setting does not suits her.

Gabriella Laurence pm'd me today to let me know that some members on CERB have contacted her wondering if we are indeed married. Most on here can tell it is a joke. I mean seriously, how can we be married when we haven't even met, not to mention one day the marriage is on, the next day a divorce and so on. Clearly it is friendly on-line joking Gabriella is a on-line friend, and we banter back and forth, both through pm's, and on posts. But we are not married Why am I posting this. When some people start making enquiries like this, even in pm's, it may have a fallout effect of starting rumours which could damage the lady's business. Gabriella is an independent SP. I have nothing to do with her business or how she runs it...well except for one thing, this fall, all things being equal, I will get to meet Gabriella as a client. And as a sidebar, just like every other gentleman that has seen her, I still had to go through her verification process too, no special exceptions were made for me Gabriella and I are on line friends, and the friendly bantering will continue. Don't read more into it than that...we really aren't married. And Gabriella is from all recommendations, a wonderful companion

Honey, sweetheart, sugar pie, how many times do I have to remind you to ask for help? How many times have I told you to ask for help from my other husbands so you didn't have to do it all by yourself? My other husbands all help out each other and that way, we have more time to enjoy ourselves. If you wish to keep doing it the hard way, that's your perogative but please know that help will always be provided to those who ask for it. After reading your little note I think I will need a special weekend getaway to the Fat Bastards agency resort...

Seriously? I have to say, an hour before the appointment sounds like the *perfect* time to catch your potential client in the shower. I wonder how many people pass this test? And, of course, that's before we get to the discretion side of things. You could have had far more serious reasons for not picking up a call from an SP than simply being in the shower at the time. Most SPs understand this, of course, and wouldn't dream of calling any client out of the blue, but clearly this one doesn't.

As an SP, I set up an email with a male-sounding name and I use this email for those who are concerned with getting caught :) when they want to see me they email that email asking to meet up for beers, or golf, or whatever else it is guys might meet up for ;) it's most simple way to approaching a concerned potential client (in my opinion).

Lets play this hypothetical situation. You go to see a lady at her incall. Shortly after you arrive instead of a drug o/d she grasps her chest, and is having a heart attack Do you leave or call 911 and start CPR Maybe she has a poor diet and smokes which were contributing factors in the heart attack Does that mean her life isn't worth saving Frankly does any of it matter A human life is in jeopardy, that is all that matters. RG

In Ontario, we are not legally required to assist someone unless we are at fault for their situation, or unless we have a sufficiently close relationship to the person in distress. There is no duty to care unless you put the person at risk, or you are in a caregiving position (for example, due to your profession). The only province that I know of that has a duty to care law is Quebec, but even then it does not constitute a criminal offense unless it also violates the federal criminal code. At the very least, call authorities who can and are trained to help or judge if help is needed.

I am one fortunate guy. I am lucky enough to spend quality time with the women of CERB more often than most, and have had the great fortune to have had hosted a number of providers in my home. In doing so... I have not only formed intimate bonds, but have also had the chance to really get to know a great many of the amazing women of CERB - not only as service providers but as the amazing people that they are. Today, I am highlighting one such individual. Annessa. What can I say about Annessa? She has ten pages of reviews, so you know she must be doing something right. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=A&t=10258 But Annessa the person? Incredible. Not only is she absolutely drop dead gorgeous, but she has a personality to match. There are very few people let alone providers that make you feel at ease from the moment they step in the door... Annessa fits that bill. Like I said... I am one fortunate guy. Annessa has become not only an amazing provider BUT she is a person whom I am honored to count among my friends. She is multi talented, wickedly funny, amazingly compassionate and an absolute joy to spend time with... but best of all... she is a genuine treat!!!!

In dicey situations, always take the highest road you can find. Always, no matter what. Character is everything, after all. One's personal integrity and authenticity are most clearly revealed in stressful or potentially dangerous situations. In the future, focus closely on your companion when you arrive. Be sure that she's sober and level. Consent is a very important consideration: you don't want to have to defend your actions if another person's consent may not have been unequivocally given. I'm a warm and affectionate person. I always greet new and returning visitors with a hug and a kiss. It's an easy way to break the ice, and I'll also notice alcohol on his breath, lack of focus in his eyes and other tell-tale signs he may be intoxicated or on something. I have turned men away in these circumstances. I've also switched the agenda for the meeting, made coffee and provided something nourishing to eat. That wasn't necessary and I wouldn't have done it if I'd felt that I was at risk of harm, but I can be a bit motherly at times. In each case, I accepted my full fee at the door and kept it.

The decision to show one's face in photos is something everyone agonizes over. No matter what a companion's decision, she has excellent reasons for making it. It would be very difficult to be successful in this industry if a lady isn't at least very pretty; her face matters more than her body in this respect. Men who contact us, insisting on full face photos, "more skin" or pictures of particular body parts are rarely serious potential clients. They tend to be photo collectors, at best. At worst, they're likely to be dangerous--inclined to attempt blackmail or to expose us in our communities. This fellow is already using blackmail tactics in his threat to write a bad review if he doesn't get what he wants. Please report him, Destiny.

IMHO I would hit that little report button in that PM. I use to show my face and wish that I could but my privacy was compromised and this is a private and discrete business for me as it is for most hobbyist and we should be given the same right to respect, discretion and privacy. I have a huge family here and all over and my business and what I do is just that, my business. My description of myself is 100% accurate and if that is not good enough than I would politely tell someone to seek out another lady. I agree with you that boundaries should and are to be respected. What would happen if every lady started requesting a face picture of every hobbyist, that certainly would not go over well with the hobbyist. CERB is a positive SP friendly recommendation board and no negative "reviews" would be posted here, so you have no worries about that empty threat. Some people will try many tactics that are mean, rude and unethical. Feel free to send me a PM to discuss this because this is so not right for anyone to make such remarks or threats. All my Love and Support, Lexy

Well two ladies who are currently not with us, but I'm looking forward to their return to CERB, I'll nominate as my CERB Goddesses of the Day The first is Alexandra Sky. A CERB contributor, came up with positive threads such as the "I Like/Positivity Thread" Enjoyed reading her posts, and looking forward to her return to CERB A photo of the lovely Alexandra What some gentlemen think of Alexandra http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=63135 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=A&t=40830 The second lady (just mentioned) who is also not with us, but I'm looking forward to her return to CERB too, is Isabella Gia. A lady who has a heart of gold. How many ladies like, as a gift, to receive a contribution to a food bank, something that helps others. Here is a photo of the lovely Isabella And what some gentlemen think of Isabella http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=I&t=22900 In spite of their time out, both ladies' positive contributions to CERB can't be overlooked, and I for one will welcome them back when they are out of the penalty box :-) RG

Advertising, whether online or in print, is perfectly legal. There have been judicial rulings in the 1980s that said that advertising is private communication because readers are never forced to read ads. The only way to work legally is to go to the client's location for the call. That said, this is also one of the least safe ways to work, too. If you decide to do outcalls only, please, please, please make sure you have a driver and that the driver knows where you're going and what time you'll be ready to leave. Call the driver when you enter the house or hotel room and call again at an agreed-upon time. For example, if your meeting with the client will last an hour, make sure you call the driver when the hour is over, no matter what. If the driver doesn't hear from you, you should have a plan about what they are to do. If you don't have a driver now, contact other ladies where you are and get some recommendations. Don't hire someone who's just decided that this is a cool and sexy way to make a bit of money now that there's even less risk of prosecution than there was before recent the Ontario Court of Appeal decision. You want someone who is experienced and has been proven reliable. I never go to clients' homes except in very rare cases where I have known the client for quite some time. Even then, I once ran into a problem that I was able to manage easily enough but which would not have happened at my place. The difficulty with hotel rooms and clients' homes is that you have no idea who is on the other side of the door when it opens to admit you. If you go to a hotel, make sure you check out the room thoroughly, looking in the bathroom, including the shower, and the closets. If there's a door that adjoins another room, make sure that it's locked on your side so that no one can enter from the room next door. In a client's home, the problem is that you don't necessarily know where all the exits are. It's harder to know who is in the place and you have no control over whether someone else may arrive while you're there. I can appreciate your reluctance to work from your own apartment but, frankly, this is safer than going to someone else's location. It's not legal, but unless you see a high volume of clients, entertain late at night or cause unusual noise, you're not likely to have a problem. It's critically important that the companion be in control of the encounter at all times, every time she meets with anyone, wherever the meeting takes place. That's much easier when you're in your own place and much more difficult when you're in the client's home. Despite these warnings, it's true that many women work successfully doing outcalls. It might be a good idea to connect with some others and find out about their safety strategies. Over time we all think of things that never occurred to us when we started out. Always remember: nothing, absolutely nothing, ever, including any amount of money, is more important that your personal safety, so don't compromise!

I took one for the team. I reponded to an ad from CL this morning. She said it was a bad week and only HJ's and BJ's were available. I really wasn't too sure at first who I would run into. I was thinking as I got to the house, if this is an old hag, I'm leaving and not paying as soon as she opens the door. Got there, pleasantly surprised. She has a room in an old house and wants to move to something different. For those of you that have seen Bambi, I'd say about the same type of accomodation - smaller but cleaner. Crystal is about 5'5, maybe 120 -125. 20 years old. Non-rushed, will repeat. Is open to suggestions, beautiful breasts. Nice body, no stretch marks. Nice eyes, teeth and hygiene. Sweetie Hopefully she will put an ad up. I have asked her to. Rates will be good. Enjoy, treat her well. I think she will become a favorite. Lets get her enough business to get a decent apartment. TRman

I like Lee because he thinks he's an introvert even though he's an extrovert but doesn't know it.

Yes Angela, in December wheel bearing and ball joints went. Then the water pump in January. Now the tranny. But if trouble comes in threes, this is the third, and hopefully last, for awhile RG

Hmmmm.......I now kinda want to change my handle to "Pervert Introvert"...or vice versa. Additional Comments: I too am very much an introvert. But the odd thing is all of my best friends seem to be extroverts. I tend to get along better with extroverts than with other introverts. Wonder why that is? Maybe it creates the perfect balance of "verts"? lol

Quite fond of this wonderful young lady and her wonderful ass !! ;) Our very own Malika .... Bum ditty bum ditty bum bum bum....bum ditty bum ditty bum bum bum.....bum ditty bum ditty bum bum bum ....ditty bum ...ditty...BUM BUM BUM ;)

I think everyone on CERB is a little perverted ;)

Wow... Great Post !! Great article ...thanks for sharing. Never thought about this before. So here is what I came up with .... Extrovert - NO Introvert - Absolutely ! Pervert - Absolutely !

Definitely refreshing! I was referred to this site by another SP :) glad to be here! Kerri

Thank you for posting this, Nathalie. I have been a big fan of that article for over a year, I believe, and have shared it with many of my friends and acquaintances. I'm so glad you have it and thought to post it on CERB. I have a feeling there are quite a few introverts in our community. I think being an introvert can be a wonderful thing, and not something to be fixed. I wouldn't try to change this aspect of myself. I'm glad that people are recognising more and more that it is just a different way of relating to the world. Being introverted has its own strengths and advantages, just as being an extrovert does. Great thread!

Loosing a friend because she just doesn't get what your trying to say. Even worse she didn't even try.

:D Good morning Belleville, I wanted to say a BIG thank you for the HOT welcome i have enjoyed over these two wknds! I meet some wonderful men and you wont be forgotten in my tour schedule! A big thank you to your very Shortcake for the warm invite to play this past weekend! It was a blast!! I will be back to play again soon my sweeties , Till then, take care everyone.. Shelly Lane, xoxoxo

For me not having coffee us totally unacceptable. Once during a city wide balck out I drank instant coffee cold, it was gross but I got my fix!!! I make mine the night before in a French press and heat it up in one minute ten seconds. By two minutes on the floor I am a human being again. :biggrin:

I had another Em session at her new place. Energy, enthusiasm, beauty, sweetness. And candidate for Best Bum on the Planet :)

The Trouble with Hobbying Brother Husbands...I see a TV show in our midst! cat

If it wasn't obvious that she was going to overdose, I would call her on it and casually ask if she had been drinking or smoking marajuana and if she is okay. If she was just lying there then that is an indication that she could have been drunk, smoked weed, or maybe high on downer pills. If you feel uncomfortable about it, make sure she is okay, leave and don't return to see her again. Many SPs do smoke marajauna and some are even casual in telling others about it. I've seen ads for girls being 420 friendly but if this is beyond your boundaries then you have the right to leave. Yes, you may have forfeited your money...unless you want an argument on your hands as don't know how people will react while under the influence . Unfortunately it's best to just cut your losses and chalk it up to experience. And if someone did overdose or something else happens medically, it is your repsonsibility to call 9-1-1. I was with a client when he had a heart attack and I had to drag a 300 lb guy off the bed to perform CPR. At that point I didn't care who people thought I was or what I was doing there. I happened to be on an outcall and in that moment, you're just thinking about that person. I had hotel staff up there in minutes as well as an ambulance and the luckily the guy survived. I also know an SP in Toronto who went to an outcall at a hotel and the guy overdosed on cocaine shortly after she got there. She was young and freaked out but told the front desk to call 9-1-1. She should have stayed but she decided to bolt out of there because she was scared. Apparently the indidual who OD was not the most upstanding citizen and didn't want to be associated with whatever they were a part of. Not right imo to take off when someone is ODing but it's good she told the front desk. Unfortunately it was too late and he died.

Honey dear...I have asked, they all say the same thing, they are busy seeing you, or someone else, when the help is being asked for Their idea of helping each other out is scheduling their encounters so it doesn't conflict with anyone else's encounter All my love Your devoted husband RG

A very respected and discreet SP called me unexpectedly about 15 minutes before our appointment. As I know she is so über discreet and professional it was clear to me she was in extreme distress. But just in case it was abort protocol, before dispatching hotel staff and police to her suite, I tried to reach her and she had pocket dialed me :) We laughed about it but she completely agreed that an unexpected call from her would always be very very bad and mean something was crazy wrong (if it was on purpose) and I wouldn't have been over reacting in the least to have dispatched hotel staff and police to check on her if I hadn't been able to reach her. An SP making an unexpected call to a client is simply wrong. Never do this ladies, you could reach his wife, his co-worker, or give the poor guy a heart attack. If you must call him, it should be only when expected.

Well my dear wife you might get some diamonds if I got more than the honey do list...cut the grass, take out the garbage, clean out the garage, shovel the driveway etc etc etc Oh, I'm also the Captain of my own boat, so I can perform our marriage ceremony...no need for a Minister, JP etc When does the fun part of this marriage begin my dear RG :-)

And that gentlemen is what separates the real ladies from the girls, take notice. I'll never view service providers as always or only providing services of a strictly sexual nature. To me, a real service provider knows what services I need most at the time and provides them. It might be companionship or some coffee and "something nourishing to eat". The more of SamanthaEvan's (and a few others) posts I read the more impressed I become. The more special ladies like this I meet the more impressed I become also. With the girls, yes. But with the real ladies like this they are consistent, considerate, reliable, dependable, experienced and always very special.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/raven-haired Has she dyed her hair black?

Good point. So true, but at some point a conscious choice of free will was made. And I would consider any state of consensual consent (that might have existed) to now no longer exist or be invalid when someone is now known to be under the influence of any mood altering drug (including alcohol).

I consider the money for an encounter gone so to speak, so I'm never worried about recovery of the money. What I would do is leave. Now if it is obvious she has immediate health (ie life/death) concerns, stay, dial 911 and await the ambulance. No matter what, this is a fellow human being. But if she is just high, no immediate concerns, consider the money and encounter gone, move on, don't return RG

Perhaps talking to the veterinarian might be best. Depending on many factors (age, current weight, indoor or outdoor cat, etc.) he will be able to recommend a proper quantity of food and most importantly, the right food for your cat. Then a follow up appointment might be ideal after 2-3 months.

Shit. Are you taking anything now to boost your immune system? If not, are you willing to spend a couple a hundred a month? IP6, turmeric, ginger, concentrated weed oil (google 'phoenix tears'), chaga and other medicinal mushrooms (chaga is mentioned in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's book "Cancer Ward"), eat tons of raw garlic (making your own hummus is a good way to eat all that garlic), flax oil and cottage cheese or yogurt is part of the Budwig diet (some say milk products fuel cancer, but might not be true for goat milk products), organic grape seed extract, bromelain (it might help break down cancer cell walls, making it easier for your immune system to attack them), lots and lots of cruciferous veggies (make your own saurkraut), I seem to remember reading somewhere that cauliflower and turmeric work together to fight cancer and taste great when slightly cooked. All the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And to throw my two cents worth in here, adding to Samantha's and Angela's comments, for your safety, have a verification process as part of your screening measure. What I have provided to ladies I see, is my full real name, board handle, cell phone number, email address, confirmation of board handle by a pm and a reference from a lady I have seen. Gentlemen understand that until you two meet you are both strangers, and for all the hype about a man's privacy, really the ladies run a much higher risk safety wise than a man does There are many ladies on this board who I am sure would be happy to advise you about screening methods/verification. My experience, when providing this information to a lady, it went a long way to establishing a trusting relationship before we even met, and got our encounter started on a positive note For anyone evasive about being screened, remember, no amount of money is worth your safety (and maybe life) One more thing, not clear from your post, but so you know outcalls are going to the gentleman's place, be it his hotel or residence, incalls the gentleman comes to your place be it your apartment or hotel This guy's point of view RG

JessicaMassage! I can no longer recall if Jessica was mentioned in this thread or not... Either way, she is my Goddess for today :) Actually, for the whole week! Her website Her profile Her recommendations

My CERB Goddess of the Day today is a lady who has already been mentioned in this thread. I have yet to meet her, but find her to be a positive upbeat presence on CERB. She is definitely a lady I will have to schedule an encounter with in the future. That is none other than the beautiful Carley Chase Here is Carley's Profile http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=31598 What some gentlemen have to say about her http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=C&t=38804 http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=C&t=28400 And a photo or two RG

Ahhhhh.... she ordered the HE... Husband Experience.... one of our specialties.....