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You have a very low and jaundiced view of women my friend. A woman's worth is not measured by how much she can make on her back. She is a human being with hopes, dreams and aspirations and not just a piece of meat to be weighed and judged singularly by her sexuality and her physical attractiveness or lack of same.

Not to get off topic here, but you're comparing escorts to streetwalkers. Apples and Bananas my friend...........

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I think that this subject has been addressed very well but I would like to raise one thing that's not exactly germane, but related. Paid companions' ethics and confidentiality are called into question almost as a matter of course. Can a man trust us not to cause problems in his private life? How can he be sure we'll keep his identity a secret? I'm asked these questions all the time. The simple truth is that the one most likely to create a problem is the client. He uses the wrong computer to check his private e-mail account. He leaves a phone number on his cell phone. He records names, telephone numbers and addresses in a paper appointment journal and leaves it lying around. He keeps receipts for meals, hotel rooms, flowers or gifts. He sets up a private credit card or bank account but receives paper statements that are subsequently discovered by his wife, girlfriend or adult child. He saves e-mail and forum posts in word processing files on his computer. I could go on and on about the things that a man can do that may result in being discovered. In short: it's his own actions that reveal what he's up to. When wives, girlfriends and adult children find out that the fellow is seeing one of us, they find out from him, not from us. Every companion I know who has ever been asked by a potential client has readily agreed to sign a non-disclosure agreement but those requests are very few and far between. I've signed exactly one in the last 10 years. One. The confidentiality I extend to that particular man is no more and no less than what I provide to all others who visit me. Unfortunately, paid companions can't expect the same level of security with our clients. Every man who sees us is absolutely certain that he's covered his tracks. Almost none of them has. The ladies here offer a lot of support for one another every time a spouse contacts us. We're in the secrecy business. Confidentiality is non-negotiable as long as we're safe. We never admit that we've seen Mr. Wonderful. There's been a mistake. The caller has a wrong number. Yes, that's my line of work, but I don't know him. I never see men of that age, ethnicity, nationality, political affiliation. I have no idea why he recorded have my name, my website or e-mail address: hundreds of people see that information every day. I wasn't at the restaurant, theatre, yacht. I'm sorry for your distress. I've never met him. I didn't even vote for him/read his book/see that movie. Please don't cry. I can't help you. I hope things work out for you. I understand your anger, but I've never met you before and I've never met him. Please leave. You are not welcome here. I'm sorry you're so upset, but if you don't leave, now, I will call the police. I hope you can get things resolved, but I don't know him.

Absolutely! Gourmet chefs cook at home, too. Librarians read books outside of work. Doctors treat patients all day and attend to their own children's sore throats and sniffles. Bankers and brokers manage their own money. Travel agents take vacations. Construction workers, carpenters, plumbers, landscapers and gardeners usually take care of things at home. My dog trainer's own dogs are wonderful, beautifully trained critters. I dated a chef for a couple of years. While his reputation was for creating amazing dishes based on whatever was fresh in the market that morning, nobody anywhere, anytime, made better meatloaf, mac & cheese, chicken soup or basic breakfast from ordinary ingredients. He knew what he was doing and did it with loving care. I try to do the same.

I don't think it's necessarily a silly question. A lot of people hold onto this idea that people have a limited amount of sexual and/or emotional energy in any given day. People often wonder whether SPs/MAs are using up all of this energy at work. I don't ascribe to this idea that people have a limited amount of energy, I think life is more complicated than that and our energy levels depend on a variety of factors. Try and ask this same question for other sectors of the labour market. For example, when you've had a really really draining day at work... you're completely and utterly exhausted... if you had the opportunity to have amazing, relaxing, and rejuvenating sex, would you pass it up? Without getting into too much detail, of course we have sex in our personal lives! It's incredibly rare I don't want to have sex, unless I'm sick, but even then sometimes doing something as simple as mutual masturbation or a raunchy make-out session is sex for me. There are varieties and levels of sex that require more/less energy... to me, it's all about intimacy, not necessarily aerobatic sexual positions.

I'm wondering if you actually turn over the emails you have found? This would mean that private information from a provider (her location etc) will be in the hands of non industry female and could result in harrassment, eviction or worse. Depending on the intentions of the woman, this could have dire unintended consequences for an email only provider like myself or my sisters in our industry. I have been on the receiving end of angry wife phone calls and even visits by them to my incall. I would not wish it on anyone. Our industry carries unnecessary stigma and both provider and hobbyists alike bear the brunt of the negativity. If it were me, I would do everything in my power to protect the other potential victims by eliminating information that would give this woman the power to cause serious harm to them. If that was unavoidable, I would not forward any of this man's hobbying to her. I would eliminate this aspect from the report. I would simply look at it as an anonymous good deed, collect my money and move on. The woman who has hired you obviously is not concerned with ethics or she would have been sitting in front of you with his wife as she hired you or would not have contacted you at all. Her actions are invasively disrespectful to her sister and her sisters marriage. Declining the case would simply allow her to take it to another investigator that would give her the information and perhaps put a provider in harms way. We count on the hobbyist to be discreet and protect our information by not keeping it for prying eyes to find and this man obviously failed to do so. As a hobbyist, you have an opportunity to correct his mistake. Perhaps this is an old school mentality but I was taught that we protect our own, first and foremost. Society as a whole does not respect or protect us. It is up to us to ensure that those of us in our community are kept safe to the best of our ability and when the opportunity arises, we should not violate an unwritten code... cat

Seriously? your playing the naive card? In the few short weeks you have been on this board, you have have managed to appall most members by posting things that would be better left unsaid - as well as you have managed to over step the boundaries of respect when it comes to fellow Companions and Hobbyists. How many times in any given week, does one member need to keep apologizing? It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out that others find some of your posts/ threads offensive and clearly crossing the line. Why even joke about a subject (this thread in particular)that clearly has some serious consequences. You say you have respect towards others and we are all taking your posts out of context, yet do you even think before you type at ALL? If it was about fumbling in the back of a car, why title your post "car dates"? I for one don't buy the "new to this, I have no clue card" if you were clueless, you would not have posted half of the things you have written.

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To be honest, and sorry if this sounds bluntly offensive to say, but I only offer things I enjoy and charge more for certain "extras" because the market is there for it. As mentioned previously in the thread, not many ladies even offer certain things, extra money or not! That being said, those things are marketable. If I don't enjoy something, I don't do it, end of story. I got into this line of work expecting to enjoy myself. Hope this was insightful to someone...

I told you I don't know him, now stop ripping my flowers out of my garden. He was never here, please let go of my hair. I don't know your husband, boyfriend, SO now put the knife down... cat

Actually, the one I'm inclined to use most often is this:

Using teenage memories is a nice way to bring the subject of what seems to be your main intention (having public sex in a car, let's call a cat a cat ok), but we are no longer kids here. We are adults leaving in adult world. I maybe generalizing here, but I highly doubt that any of the CERB ladies would appreciate to have sex in a car at a driving where the cars next to yours simply have to take a peek at the windows to be at the premiere of your sex live show. That's sounds pretty trashy to me.

It will make it harder to make money, my dad always told me that "a penny saved is a penny earned", how will I be able to that now? I will have to change this to a nickel saved is a nickel earned. Just does not sound right to me.

Let me tell you a story about a man named shhhh Try a fun post crufty that isn't "constantly stirring the chili" You might like it :)

Helpful suggestion: Do a lot more of the first part. You will find yourself doing a lot less of the second part.

Howdy, I see you atre relativley new here, you might want to familiarize yourself withthe rules around here. Car dates are illeagal, and not discussed on cerb. Noobie error I'm sure :)

Oh dear lord when I read the subject, I thought a member had passed away. See ya penny. You were fun to play with and the cheapest thing I owned.

Doing legitimate investigation is not the issue. That means you did the legwork and used legal means to find out information. You may feel a bit conflicted but you should have known that going into this line of work. If on the other hand, as the OP implies, you got this information illegally by hacking a computer, or by breaking and entering, or any other means; then why bother asking for advice? You have already made up your mind to make a living being a law-breaker. The word scum-bag springs to mind, but since we must behave nicely around here I won't apply it to you, but you would be a criminal, which is accurate.

This seems like kind of a silly question to me. For most well adjusted people sex is like eating, so it's a bit like asking a chef if he or she still likes to cook and eat food. What I have discovered over the years is that according to some SPs relationships can be challenging to have but that's not the same thing at all is it?

I will be organizing the next Ottawa social for both male and female CERB members in good standing on Thursday, February 7, 2013 in Ottawa. Since this is being organized by CERB members for other CERB members, please do not bother the MOD about this event. It will be held a centrally located venue in Ottawa. It will be in a reserved room of a public bar/restaurant. It will run from approximately 6:30 p.m. until closing time. There will be a variety of music played and dancing will be encouraged. There will be a limit of 60 spots available (ideally 30 gents/30 ladies), on a first-come, first-served basis to those members in good standing who have some presence on the board or in the hobby (if you have a low post count, but good rep, that's all we care about). There will be a cost for gents to attend and tickets will be available starting now. You will be able to pay by e-mail money transfer, postal money order or cash (in person). The price of the tickets will be $40. This is to cover drinks for the ladies, appetizers, door prizes and other expenses associated with organizing these events. There will be no cost to the ladies to attend, however you will have to confirm 3 days before the event that still intend on coming due to the fact we always sell out and end up with a waiting list. If you didn't get a chance last time, you will be given first priority. I am looking forward to seeing old friends and meeting new ones. This is a meet and greet social event in a public venue (no hanky panky :smile:) and as with past events, expect all attendees to behave accordingly. Remember, CERB members from all across Canada (and elsewhere) are welcome to attend. If you think you might like to join us, feel free to pm and let me know. Angela of Ottawa Your humble social organizer.

I'm a little reluctant to start this thread 'cuz I know there are certain realities when performing oral on a member. Lubrication is key. I have limitations, but that's just me. Maybe it's just my old slug-fartness shining through (more than likely!). I've had experiences where the lady needs extra lube and the convenient lube of choice is a good amount of spit on the old Johnston. So, said lady holds said Johnston firmly in hand, takes aim, gobbles up a fair amount of goober ....and...PTTOOIEEEE!. Makes me jump out of my skin. I for one REALLY don't like this. No No No! Disgusted! Remember the movie: The Fly? It's like when Jeff Goldblum dissolves a box of doughnuts with vomit and slurps 'em up. Mmmmm. Yummy, eh? Digestive juices! Imagine you as an SP - and a guy doing some fine DATY. Things down South start to dry a little, so said buster starts snorting & blowing all sorts of crap at the taco stand. From a female perspective, would you stand for that? I know oral technique is a unique experience and you should expect some saliva exchange. How can I delicately approach the provider to share my phobia?:icon_eek: Anyone else in the same boat?

Glad I'm not selling cars anymore. No more used special of the week:$9999. Now It would be $9998.95 Additional Comments: New saying to encourage frugality: "Every time you save a nickel. it can go toward more action for your pickle!".

Good point, amazing how the human brain works when someone advertises a product at 69.99 and we somehow perceive that as cheaper than 70.00. Of course technically it is but over the years advertisers have used the .99 to make us think we were getting a better deal than we were.

Car is considered a public place.

I don't think he was discussing car dates in the current cerb sense of the word as much as what he was saying what it meant back in his teen days.

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Fantastic post again Jessie. You should write for Cosmo or Playboy or something. Correct me if I'm wrong but English isn't even your first language is it? Well done.

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Yes, lots of it... :icon_cool:

I wouldn't do it if I didn't like it. That's my answer to whether I like being an escort AND whether I really like Greek :) Pretty much all of us know that the best way to work (that is, best in the sense of keeping us sane and healthy) is to offer what we're comfortable with and then find clients who want that.

Well, I can only speak for myself, not all SPs (though I do feel positively about a generalized consensus on this one!)... Yes, yes we do. I mean, keeping to the same comparison mentioned previously; a chef doesn't become one because he thinks cooking is an awful chore...he feels passionately about it, is constantly looking for ways to improve his skills and knowledge, and loves what he does. I don't think any less can be said about myself and the other wonderful ladies here on cerb (and some who aren't here too!) in regards to our profession. Not to mention the "don't talk about it too much" psyche of an SP, what this may or may not do to affect her inner being over time. Let's face it, sex only for money would probably lead to some bad mental stuff faster and easier...We might need an occasional physical escape of the mental plagues we suffer. Again, not speaking for everyone, only myself when I say I need non-work-related-sex to keep my sanity!

Crap. Did you miss the memo again? I would forward my copy of it to you but as per directions, I deleted it. Take a look here: The Bro Code :)

You have no idea half the shit these ladies have to put up with. A few SPs have shared with me some of the stupid shit they put up with when guys first make contact (which gets them automatically disqualified). I am always amazed at how stupid some people can be and some of the shit that comes out of their mouths. Then there is some of the shit said during the appointment, by witless guys who forget that they are talking and dealing with another human being. It's unbelievable. I always assume I'm talking to a lady and conduct myself accordingly. I guess I'm just old fashioned.

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of course! The more sex I have in my private life, the better I feel about working as an SP and actually keep a regular schedule. I have a healthy sexual life. Most of my partners are female thought, but that'S just cause I am slutty and greedy...and I like to be about 50/50 with both men and women. I get the sex with men in my professional life and sex with women in my private life :)

Glad to hear you are taking the plunge! Figure out what you want in this exchange and ask the ladies. We are very helpful. Good luck! Meaghan xo Posted via Mobile Device

I bet sex in the workplace is very common in your line of business <ducking for cover>

There are very few ladies that offer this, and i don't think it's offered just because they tolerate it.

YUK.. Nazis & SS "just doing their job". Is there not a higer morality and responsibility here?

Forget about outing a fellow hobbiest, you've just outtted yourself here and it's not likely that anyone will want to share private details regarding anything of any intimate matter with sps, mas or even girlfriends here knowing that someday it may be used against them. If you've had any professional training as an investigator you might want to review your textbooks and notes about ethics of the trade, ethics regarding responsibility to the client and ethics of best practices when investigating and accessing information. That's where you'll find your answer.

Love #43 and 47! And 37, 41 and my all time fave, of course 29! Really enjoy this thread. Thanks Jessie! xoxo

It sounds like we need to send a huge hug to all who knew kechara.

Perhaps. Something else that's happened over the last few years is the continuing growth of the Internet, and with it online communities such as this one. There is now a wealth of information about the SPs that are available, and how to go about seeing them, that simply didn't exist a few years ago. The existence of a community also provides simple reassurance to the new hobbyist or SP that they are not alone, and that many other well-adjusted individuals are doing the same as them. For many people, it's hugely comforting to know that you're not some kind of freak. I'd argue that the invention of the Internet is of more significance than the invention of ED meds, to be honest.

Has it occurred to you that some people who have many partners may do so because they enjoy the sex?

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Greater love hath no man than this, that a man donate the present contents of his Pooning Fund towards the purchase of a new laptop for his daughter. She and her husband make modest incomes. Her old laptop died and her prospects for a replacement are dim. Food and mortgage before laptops. She is starting an at-home business this summer and is trying to work out how she will do the records and bookkeeping. She doesn't know she is getting this tomorrow. This is going to be fun! :) Plus Papa gets to learn how to set up Windows 8!

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