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Yep, the C-word. We hear it all the time; that it's a cure-all for interpersonal issues. As an SP, I communicate as clearly as possible in my ads, website and interactions so there is no misinformation and are no misunderstandings. My responsibility is to communicate, either written or verbal, effectively, clearly, and honestly. That's on me. Reading things thoroughly, and asking for clarification before making an assumption.... that's on you. Caveat emptor, buyer beware. Being aware means being informed. It takes time to inform yourself, and effort. Yes, a lot of the time seeing an SP is more-or-less on impulse. But that doesn't mean you can't take the time to familiarize yourself with that lady. Her services, her booking protocols, anything else you need to know to be an informed client. These things shouldn't need to be said, but they are said - often. The reality is there are enough guys out there who skim over important bits of information, or worse yet, think they are an exception and a lady will bend her rules for him. And rather than taking responsibility for their error (afterall, it is your responsibility as a client to be familiar with what the rules are), they transfer it onto the lady. She's bitchy. She's being unfair. How dare she stick to the rules and restrictions which she has already clearly outlined, can't she see I'm special? This kind of nonsense happens a lot, and the sad truth is that while there are times when a lady is genuinely at fault, there are also times when bitter men who feel slighted are not completely forthcoming with their contribution to events. It is this reason why I don't bother with the other place. It's far too misogynistic and I don't feel that women are being properly respected there. We have our responsibilities, both SPs and clients. I am not responsible for making sure your phone has minutes, providing transportation to my incall, or providing services that I do not offer just for you. You are not responsible for supplying my lingerie or condoms, making sure my phone has minutes, or my right to choose what I do with my body. Information is key. Communication is how that information is given. If you're not sure, ask. Don't make assumptions or fail to plan and then wonder why a lady is less-than-impressed with you. There's my mini-rant about communication and not trying to make someone else responsible for your (in)actions. Posted via Mobile Device

I am curious- why wouldn't you want to address the lady by her chosen companion name? I guess it would depend on the type of relationship you have established with her and how she personally feels about it. If it's the first time you are contacting her, I would refrain from using the hun, baby, sexy, etc. approach ;)

..and not every client thinks in terms of a menu...

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besides, I would rather someone say hey are you into greek, then do you take it up the ass.....

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this. Ladies who wish to discuss services offered usually have a menu listed in ads or on a website. Not all of us conduct business this way and some of us even take great offence when being treated like a pizza. To some people seeing a companion is an experience and not just a single act. If your seeking a certain service and not a complete package find a lady listing her services. I dont have a menu, nor will I ever provide one and my business does just fine. not listing services offered does not mean a client leaves disappointed. I can tell by the 2nd email that I exchange with a client if we will click and menu has nothing to do with it. Just cause a service is available or offered does not mean the client will leave happy. Not every Companion bases her business on a menu.

I've never been asked this question and I can't imagine why someone would. Samantha is not the name I was given when I was born, that's true. However, I've used this name for years. I answer to it as automatically as I do to my birth name. If someone decided that he preferred to call me "Elizabeth," instead, it wouldn't work for me. I'd also wonder what the real issue was. I'd be willing to hear his reasons, but if it's that my name is the same as his wife, his mother, his sister or his daughter, well, he knew that when he contacted me the first time. If my name is such a big deal, perhaps he should be seeing someone else. And so I think I would feel that he was trying to establish some kind of special claim on me or see if he could coerce me into responding to him in a special way. I have to remember that he's going to call me "Elizabeth" if I see him again. I should be careful to respond to that name if he says, "Would you care for a drink, Elizabeth?" "Are you ready to order dinner, Elizabeth?" and so on. Sometimes clients call me things like dear, sweetheart, darling, honey or love. I usually ignore it, but I don't actually like it, particularly the first couple of times we meet. We don't know each other well enough for these endearments or pet names. I do appreciate it when a client asks if it's okay, though, and when they do, I usually say yes but only because the ones who ask have always been established, long-term regular clients.

So is the name something odd? I imagine something like "sexymamacakes" might be hard to use in normal conversation, so in that context I agree it could be weird. Some dancers choose names that baffle me, non-name names like "Unforgettable" or "Superstarr".. so do I call her "Super"?.. awkward. I don't really have any advice. :confused0024:

Well then I guess I am one of the very few sp's who have age restrictions. I do not feel comfortable seeing someone who is 18 yrs old, therefore I would not see them. But hey , maybe it is just me. Also, it is my opinion that TMI is much better than not enough when composing messages to set up an encounter via this business.

Wow! What a lot of hard-asses. I am generally described as being just to the right of Ghengis Khan in matters of business, and advertising, however, I think that banishment is being unduly harsh in this case. I have no patience or tolerance for B&S, lies etc on ads. However, she was new, didn't know better and appears to have learned her lesson. At best, we let her back in, and she is a model citizen. At worst, she screws up again and her ass gets banned for ever. This has been so public now, most people will be taking anything she says with a grain of salt.

Road Rage Incident Ends Badly: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/injured+Orleans+road+rage+incident+suspects+large/7977430/story.html

I'm unfortunately going to derail this thread a bit more, but I'm a bit confused with some of what's been said. So for clarification purposes... This whole 'menu' discussion is a bit puzzling. Suppose a client likes certain acts, something that varies from one provider to another. Prior to booking with someone, by asking if that provider is okay with that particular act, I don't think constitutes treating someone like a pizza. Even if it's just finding out what's someone's limits are, I think I'd like to know that prior to seeing her then after I've paid her. I don't think I've ever met an SP with a plan of what I'd be doing, but I'd like to be completely cognisant of what I can expect, and what to stay far far away. And I would think that everyone would take great offence when treated anything less then a human. I think this falls in line more to what I think.

That is because the appliances and kitchen cost them money but the toilette and shower save them money Posted via Mobile Device

I have to get a feel for a gentlemen through conversation before I will even consider stating any availability. My rates are always in my ads and when I'm sent text asking available? rates? addy? it shows not only did they not read my ad, but they lack discretion for thinking I would be willing to text my address out to all text inquires be it men, possibly someones significant other, another provider even. There's no harm in being to the point, but introducing yourself helps you to stand out, shows a level of respect IMO that helps with the "I'm about to invite a new total stranger into my space and self" pre encounter anxieties that go with the territory. We have little if any info and certainly no pictures of you to help us form an opinion of whom is about to join us. I love when I get either a text saying Hi, I'm so and so, have heard great things on such and such site or word of mouth. Was looking to get together in near future/said date/length of time? Is there a good time I can call to discuss further? Being polite works as well too. This will stand out from the onslought of multiple texts of HEY. Hey Sexy. Whatup?. avail?rates?location? Where I going? etc. again this is just my opinion based on my experiences but I do feel it will help you stand out from multiple others.

Maybe you're wearing to many clothes, try taking your top off :) maybe that might help!

In my case.., i do not have a website, and i m always willing to reply to txts, emails, pms.., etc as long as the questions are being asked with respect..., for me the most important thing is that both the gentleman and myself are happy at the end of the massage session, is better to be clear and know exactly what to and what not to expect.... So i believe there is no dumb questions, as long as they are presented respecfully :-)

Okay well something is up, because I am definitely not technologically slow, and I don't see twitter anywhere in your profile, mine or T-Girl Kay's. Can you send a screen shot of what it should look like?

Actually I just check both emilyJ and Tgirl Kay and I can see your twitter feeds fine. Here's a screen shot of mine along with both of yours

Just wanted to add that you may get better results trying to book an evening appointment after dinner. Daytime appointment requests are often booked very early 9-11 even earlier, which is why prebooking is a good idea. It also gives the lady adequete time to prepare for your visit. Of course I can't say this for everyone, but has been my experience. Also an unblocked telephone call is taken much more serious by the provider unless otherwise stated in her ad. Here in Winnipeg many guys and possibly some woman will bombard us with texts (many just intended to waste our time or indulge in sexting) If you do text, I would text a friendly introduction of your name, when you are seeking to get together and what length of time etc. this will be replied to more so then 'hey u avail. Rates? location?"

Even though he closed his account, I like mrnice2. He brought an air of positivity to this community and was an asset to this board. While we all wish him the very best, he will be missed here RG

After a few emails back and forth with Bob54 where we discussed our likes and dislikes he suggested I meet with Jasmine, that she would fit my "likes" to a T ... and Bob I must say you were spot on! Big Thanks!! I met with Jasmine for an hour today and had just a wonderful time. I was greeted at the door of her luxurious hotel room by this natural exotic beauty, so petite but with the right amount of curves. Spinner sometimes is mis-used to describe "too thin", well let me assure you that it isn't the case with her. She is fully a woman but in a very petite frame: Nice perky breast, small but round booty ... Mmmm! So I freshened up with a quick shower and joined her on the bed for some chit-chat. We quickly moved on to some passionate DFK (a real turn-on for me) and she was a sublime partner to enjoy this with. If, like me, you enjoy sensual foreplay she will satisfy you fully! She moves so well, moans so well, changes pace so well ... are you seeing a pattern develop here? lol She is oh so beautiful to look at that I completely lost track of the stupid, psychedelic, completely irritating cartoon she was wathching on TV when I got there ... sorry inside joke between the 2 of us ... but seriously, it would normally be a distraction but our session was so passionate, our 2 bodies working in perfect rhythm, that we completely lost track of what was going on around us. Unfortunately for you this is how far I'll go in my description of our session, I try to stay a gentleman, but I can say that she easily brought me to ecstasy, twice! ;) What I also greatly appreciated about Jasmine is that I never felt rushed or running out of time. Actually I'm the one who brought up the time issue since I had a business meeting to get to after. Even though we had never met before we were able to laugh (out loud!) together and enjoy each others company and not just our bodies ... well I was enjoying hers mostly!! lol Until next time my Sweet Jasmine...

BP is a good source where a large number of ladies advertising if you love the variety as I do but picking from BP is also very risky (obviously for unknown ones not the ones already reputable) so be very careful when picking ladies from this site especially if they have no reviews or recommendations anywhere. Yes Cowboy's diary is a great source but also I personally ask a lot of questions via text, email or direct call. Yeah you may scare most of them away by these questions but you improve the likelihood that what you get is a good provider (in terms of looks and services) with real pictures and legal too. These are my personal (some recently added) rules when calling on BP (some may not agree that is why I said my personal rules). 1 - Outcall safer (for you) as no one hidden in closet or will block your way out if you refuse and since seeing a provider in outcall situation is 100% legal then you can always call the police if any wrong doing and she knows that (and she can too but I am a nice guy!!). 2 - Search for her number and if more than one girl is advertised by that number then it is a red flag, unless it is a reputable agency. 3 - Make it a prerequisite that the lady who shows up must be the one in the pictures otherwise it is a cancellation without any penalty. 4 - Make presenting an ID a prerequisite for those advertised between 18 to 20 upon arrival (and make ID mandatory if you suspect under 20 after her showing up in your agreement). If ID refused then make an agreement that it is a cancellation without penalty. 5 - Make an agreement on services that you require. Agree to pay the transportation fee (usually $40) and cancellation fee ($40 to $60) if the lady decides not to provide those services after seeing you and wishes to leave. For incall just a cancellation fee to be agreed upon. Be cool about it. remember it is always ladies' choice. But if she agrees to stay and refuses to provide agreed services, then it is a cancellation without any penalty. 6 - Agree to pay the transportation fee (for outcall) and cancellation fee above if the girl was the one in pictures but still you didn't wish to go ahead with the date (photo shopped pictures) and she must agree to leave with that fee not in full. 7- Let her know that it is important to you that she must be in this willingly. 8- After texts and emails are exhausted always call (to make sure she is the one picking the phone) and talk to the girl directly and see if she was really the one who read all the texts/emails and is aware of the details and agreements. Also convey your address (in outcalls) verbally when calling (not in text or email) and ask her to write it on a piece of paper. If you call and no one picked the phone that is a big red flag. In about 40% of cases you won't get any response and in about 30% of cases you get a negative response but in about one-third of cases you will get a positive response and then there is a 90% chance that it is a successful hit. You wish for a higher than 90% hit ratio then limit yourself to reputable cerb SPs and those on EC (with consistent recommendations on both boards). Do your homework (research) and avoid questionable sites like BP, CL and O@N.

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I take no offense to being called baby or hun in person. In writing, not so much. As for choosing another name, there would have to be a brief conversation in advance so I'm prepared. I like to use my clients names as I think it helps protect me from CRSS (Can't Remember Shit Syndrome) but if it doesn't work for my guest then I don't have to. I am here to provide an experience for you, the guest, that fulfills the needs you have identified to the best of my ability. If names are an issue, I can work with that. It is no different than which color stockings you like or if you are white or red wine drinker. The only names I don't want to hear from anyones lips are my government names unless you have a warrant... cat

I dont care what you call me, as long as you call me.....HeHe. I once did a call thru an agency and they told me that I was to use a different name. I said ok, but when I called them to check in, I used my original name and well....I think that if the name your sp is using rings a bell that you dont want (like its your sisters name), she would understand you calling her a different name. Just let her know. Meaghan or whatever you would like to call me xoxo

Does it really matter whether you are comfortable with her name or not (and I'm not really sure how one can be uncomfortable with someone else's name) It's the lady's name (albeit her alter ego name), she chose it, so the only one who should be comfortable/uncomfortable with the lady's name is the lady. If you respect the ladies, respect the name they chose for themselves This is much ado about nothing. Just my opinion RG

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Samantha is so right! I was going to write a whole thing, but her comments basically cover it. SPs are different than other workers. If a client gets friendly with their dentist and they start hanging out as friends with no $ exchanged, presumably the dentist is not going to be looking in the client-turned-friend's mouth. But if being friends means the SP listening to your stories, hanging out with you, charming you, entertaining you... then you are just getting the service you should be paying for! If I am at a restaurant and a waitress keeps asking me how I am, would I like more water, and refilling my coffee, I am not going to say "wow, I love how this feels, we should be friends!" and expect her to do this all the time.

I get what DC is saying. With the amount of texts that come in daily & 90% are not serious & very time consuming that a nice "hello how are you I found your ad on ___ & I was wondering if you'd be available at ___ for an hour." If the girl doesn't have the rates in her ad then he would ask in the text. A phone call should always be required to confirm an appointment. because there' no guarantee that it's a male or someone even of legal age on the other end of the text. She's saying & I am as well that imagine texts numerous times daily, some with just "hey where you located", "whaddup" , or just "U available". In the new day of technology I really think everyone has forgotten spelling, grammar & all sound gansta when texting. With a phone call you get "hello is this ___ " you even get a feel of a personality & imagine this a name & a goodbye at the end of the conversation. I stopped texts unless it's someone from out of town to check availability or a prior client I've seen before. My days & bookings run so much smoother now.

Well, I'm naked and still can't see anything ;) Not working for me either.

This is an example of guys not going to get a response BTW just submitted in fun, but Meg's point is bang on!!! http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bud+ad+whatsup&view=detail&mid=4E91D31842498CCBE5BB4E91D31842498CCBE5BB&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR RG

I don't think this should be a requirement. If the lady has preferences it's on her to ask your age....most SPs don't care about the number, it's all about how you present yourself. Additional Comments: oops misunderstood your other post! Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way, phew!

the warnings still there. just have to change the option at the bottom from "within last year" to "from the begining"

I would hate having to adhere to a "script". I mean, come on, isn't it way more exciting to take a journey together and let the moment transpire? I have seen comments where the gent says that his experience was mechanical. While I don't doubt that this happens, I sometimes wonder if their expectations or specific desires were not expressed properly before their meeting. There is a thread (Emerald, was that you?) concerning conversation. It does seem to be a lost art. Why should a menu be necessary? Can you not take the time to engage the lady of your desire and start up a conversation and perhaps voice your desires in order to find out if you would get along? It seems to me that some people are either to shy or too shallow and expect us to be like in a porn movie. Guess what....we are real human women and we don't read minds lol. Kisses to all of you!

I will agree with everything Emily said 100% , I feel a rendezvous with me is an experience, not just certain acts. It's the journey, not the destination;)

That's why I like this site. The info is here, the links are here, the recos are here,and the ladies are here. I can read exhaustively and if I am missing something, a pm is easily sent and received. I am not a prolific sender of text messages and when I do,they are brief- VERY brief, unless I am begging, lol. My non-smart phone isn't conducive to texting a lot, so I rely on typing here or by email. I can be Sir Galahad when I type, but not so much when I text unless I have time to kill.

I'm definitely gartered stockings and OTK (thigh-high, really) socks kind of gal. That, or I just go bare. ;-)

The biggest things I hate being asked..... Do you live alone? You then start thinking, am I going to have some stalker watching my every move? I understand the question "are we going to be alone", but to ask a personal question about my private life is none of your business. Do you have any STD's? Can I do you bareback then? As I dont have any STD's, I certainly will not do bareback, especially with someone I have never met before. That is why I DONT have any STD's. Because I will not do bareback with guys who are willing to take a stupid chance with someone they dont know, especially in this business. Especially when they say they are clean and you ask them when the last time they were tested, and they say never, I just know I am clean. Well, I go for regular testing to make sure I am clean, why wont you?

Hey everyone! I am completely new (just signed up today) I feel a little overwhelmed with all the information for new members that is around. I'm sure the more I visit the more I will learn and feel comfortable with. Just wanted to say hi and hopefully everyone gets to enjoy their long weekend!

Sky have been previously mentioned here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119107 and here: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=J&t=110550 Hope that helps...

I agree it takes a bigger person to admit when they are wrong and to say sorry. Second chances it seems are rare these days and when deserved they should be given. However I personally think that the lady in question should have to prove herself before being allowed back on EC to Advertise. Ladies such as myself invest ALOT of time, effort and money into their business and advertising and when ladies such as the one in question pull their borrowed photo stunts - it affects us all. Let her prove herself here and then extend the privilege of advertising on EC. Too much BS like this goes on in this business and it needs to stop somewhere, or at least be used as an example that it will not be tolerated. Others who pull this BS will see that she got a firm reprimand and hopefully think twice about following in her foot steps. I know we all make mistakes, but this is a matter of knowing better and knowing it was wrong, yet still doing it. Why use real photos on one site and fakes on another, it makes NO sense. In the last year, on this board alone we had more stolen websites, ad text and photos that were caught by members than I can count (and I was a victim on more than one occasion)

Mod I understand that you saw verification photos but withpassions story is all to common with Nichole, in person she appears much older and nothing like the photos. If she's telling you no one has left her before she is not telling the truth. I have heard from more than one disapointed client, not just from Ottawa, from other cities as well like Kingston and out west. Can all these guys be wrong ? My advice to her is to be honest with herself about who she is and what she has to offer, there's someone for everyone and if she's more upfront about herself,she will appeal to clients looking for exactly that rather than promoting one thing and offering another. I'm all for second chances as well but it's not like she hasn't been made aware of the fact that the use of fake pics was not cool, yet she continued to do so over and over again NEVER in any ads explaining that the photos were for "demonstration" purposes she only came up with that when finally confronted by you. I'm so passionate about this type of deception not only for the customer who works hard for their money, but for the providers who don't play games, who use real photos and go to great time and expense to use real photos. When someone like Nichole advertises in a respected venue like EC it makes the customer question the validity and authenticity of the EC site and question every other SP's REAL photos. No surprise I voted no. Of course as I've said over and over it's your sandbox and I respect whatever choice you've made and will not raise the matter with her here in this forum. I will respect the popular consensus of this group and hope that she has truly reformed and can appreciate the damage she's done.

Many of the SPs that I know put a great deal of value in the freedom of choice that this type of work provides. An arangment like the one your suggesting would take away some of that freedom. I also think that it's possible that your confusing what the work life and the home life of someone who works as a SP might be like. We arn't in SP mode all the time, we have hobbies, lovers, dogs, children, family's other jobs and often demanding university courses. SPs keep incalls so that day to day life and work don't overlap. Don't do it bad idea. Kay

Somebody posted this video on another board, and I thought it was very interesting! Should be of particular interest to any of you who have had issues with ED.

Hi everyone, I am living in Halifax, origionally from Newfoundland. I have met two ladies now, one in Halifax, she was a beautiful lady, and another in Niagara Falls. Still nervous though with being a newbie, lol. Anyways cheers.

Hey everyone. I've been lurking around here for awhile but am finally posting. I guess you can say I'm dipping my toe into the water to see how it feels.

Welcome!! Good point, not sure if we have an introduction thread. We just have some tips/advice/rules threads mostly aimed at newcomers in this part of the forum.

My first sp encounter was in July 2010 in Kingston Unfortunately it was a "lady" from CL...but live and learn We had scheduled a time/date, with specific requests from her menu First was clothing request...dress and high heels (she agreed) She shows up dress and shower sandals, and a brace on her leg (her photos btw showed her wearing high heels and no brace) Then she says she's having her period, but "got to pay the bills hun, got to pay the bills" (I'm not making this up) so all she can do is oral, but there's lots of things I can do...what daty?????...think about it She asked for her feet to be kissed and toes sucked...I was game, but when I went down...well do you think she washed her feet She needed to take alot of breaks, and before she left, she asked to use the bathroom...do you think she closed the door!!! Booked two hours, but she wouldn't leave after time up She gave me this great offer though, be her exclusive client, and I could see her at her motel. She also suggested I pay for her to come to my place so I could cook her a meal As for not kicking her out when she arrived, she came by cab, and from my vantage point the cab never left the parking lot (over two hours)...discretion being the better part of valour, not knowing who was in the cab, I sucked it up and went through with the encounter That's why since then I avoid CL like the plague My other encounters have been much much better. Only good thing about this encounter, it got me over the hump of seeing escorts, I've just learned there are much better and classier ladies out there And this story is true btw RG