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It is always one of the great challenges of the bantering that goes on in life. We tease, we joke, and suddenly we take that misstep that lands the foot in the mouth. Been there, done it. Woody, knowing you, you are always a gentleman, and an occasional misstep happens, but since you are well known and it is out of character, you no doubt have been forgiven... Keep having fun, my friend.

I'm completely happy with LE using BP to target the men who seek out underage girls. If the ad or initial correspondence with the ad poster says that the girl is 16 years old, the man must end the correspondence, period. Even better would be to report the ad to BP or the police. It's not illegal to read or reply to an escort ad, so there's nothing to fear for taking action. Until the Supreme Court of Canada makes its decisions on the prostitution laws, which probably won't happen until 2015 or so, there's no reason to worry about LE targetting men who are looking for an in-call engagement. The police and judiciary are not interested in entertaining charges about independent companions working quietly. If someone is operating an in-call and creating a public nuisance, that could be a problem, but it would be a civic by-law matter in most cases, not a criminal one. Going after the people who are promoting underage prostitutes and the men who are seeking them, however, is perfectly fine with me.

... I have seen it happen in the massage scene.. Its crazy sometimes how some ladies really get into their mind that if clients sees them in a regular basis they become "MY CLIENT" and get all upset if they find out someone else end up giving the client a massage... Gossiping and jelousy episodes go on behind close doors, I believe most of the time won't see it... Personally, like many of you have state, when you hobby most of the time is because you are looking for variety, new experiences, etc... Yes some closer relationships built with different people.., due to many different factors.. Chemistry, common interests.. Etc... Myself I actually encourage my cleints to see and try a different massage experience... I think many of you can say I have help them to come and meet other ladies that work with me if I think they will enjoy their time or is the type of girl they would like to meet :) Conclusion, noone owns clients, enjoy hobbying in the way you like to. Us as providers have to know the limits of our relationshipd with clients, even if we for any reason we think there is something special... We provide a service and we offer the best times while together, but if it is their decision to see someone else that is part of their personal life and is their choice... Also not forgetting that everyone includong ourselves have personal lifes aside from work and hobby in the gentlemen case.

We all make mistakes, I hate the taste of foot! I hope those ladies read this post and forgive you.

It was a tough week in the chat room! Online chatting can be a great thing, but without the benefit of hearing the tone of voice of the speaker, or seeing the facial expressions, it is very easy to send or receive the wrong message. I was reminded of this TWICE this week. On 2 separate occasions this week, I was attempting to make a joke and ended up horribly offending someone. My unintended "victims" are 2 of the nicest and most amazing women I have met through cerb and I would never mean to hurt them. I feel like such an ass! Now I'm wondering if I have also offended others too and just didn't know about it. I hope not!

Ingredients to make homemade gravy to go along with the roast beef I am having for supper.

I think you should marry her. She will never pay attention to you again.

FFS. 1. Many of the ladies who have responded to you with EXCELLENT advice have been doing this for more than 20 years. I'm pretty sure they'd be able to "fathom" such behaviour if it actually happened on a regular basis--except it doesn't. 2. If you're so suspicious and paranoid--this really isn't the right job for you. Not that it matters because... 3. ....I'm pretty sure you're a dude! I hate to play gender roles here, but no legit woman looking to get into this business would ask the questions you're asking.

Thanks to Old Dog's post here, i now have this tune pop in my mind --shivers--

... just glad that it wasn't this....

Now acqua has its own profile, same as Oasis.., still part of ALO...

Tea and crumpets only please ;D wait ... sometimes I do go over the line and make ridiculous comment but no harm was ever intended :) sorry if I made anyone upset ... I never meant it hahaha.

@MP : "But yeah, fear can't be the most powerful motivator, or else soldiers would never go over that wall, we'd never go to that first job interview, or we'd never have asked that boy or girl out on a date." The fear of losing the battle will make soldiers go over that wall The fear of being automatically ruled out of a job will make us go to that first job interview The fear of losing out on a potential girl/boyfriend by not asking for a date will make us do so. Regards.

I like Lee because no matter what happens he forgives you and still loves you!!

I like Andy for his ever calm persona just like his avatar. He has an awesome sense if humor and has a great ear for good music. Was missed during his hiatus.

... As you all kniw I love to chat.., I have never taken offence to comments.., I always try to look at conversations as a fun time..., even if you dont see somepnes face expressions or hear their tone of voice.., you are having a context within the conversation you are having..., so my policy is always to look at the positive and fun side of the conversation... members of CERB are not children, is an adult site and adult conversations will happen.., maybe if you are not ready to hold that kind of conversation.., and take offence easily..., maybe.., chat room is not the best place... I love the chat room, and always have great times on it! Cheers!

Agree about Jordan/Jordyn, one of the most beautiful woman around.

Yes you are right it shouldn't of happened. Thing is it did and back in the day like many years back in the day when I dated ladies like her it was different. The other dancers understood I was the bf not the cr bf. They hung out with me when she was on stage or dancing in the cr. Now if I dated a dancer well I guess I wouldn't want her dancing for any other guy either so I see her point. Just didn't know I was her property. lol We have talked and I think its been straighten out between us. She is a great lady to be around and I enjoy her friendship and company. I was dating one lady for 3 years off and on it ended in 2001. Then in 2002 I met the woman I wanted to spend the rest of my life and we got married had a child and she left me Oct 9 2012. I still love her but understand she doesn't want to be with me so I am trying to move forward. This dancer we hit off as friends and I think the reason she wanted the other dancers to stay away was because she didn't want me to be taken advantage of by some of the other dancers. Truth is IDK and will never know why things like that happen.

I think she forgot to wear her bra and is looking for change to buy a new one...

I like Old Dog because his avatar always reminds me of watching Wacky Races on Saturday mornings. I wonder if Old Dog's alter ego is Dick Dastardly?

I've made love on top of a mountain in Jasper, Alberta. Also got busy with the GF while rafting on the Athabaska River. Both times were cold and wet, but not in a good way. Oh well.

As far as I know, there doesn't seem to be any in the Moncton area, but if you don't mind traveling to Fredericton, Sophia is available and she is great: https://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/member.php?u=38592. You can read her recommendations here: https://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?ltr=S&t=43540 There might be other SPs who offer massage services.

Same here,cannot comment on this one.

- During an embassy reception using the captain's chair on the bridge of a Cdn warship while alongside down in Barbados - Loved HJ & BJ's on a long highway drive in the Wentworth Valley - HJ in economy seating on an red eye long distance flight across the country - tried for the mile high in the washroom but she wouldn't go for it

That's just a text message sent from the web. For example, Telus lets you send a text message to any Telus customer from this web page: http://www.telusmobility.com/en/NS/send_message/ When I text myself from this page it comes form 999-999-9999. Other carriers have similar features.

I like NotchJohnson because he has a big...........Harley-Davidson motorcycle!

Based on my experience with her, I can't recommend either.

Kris makes an excellent point. I am amazed (maybe embarrassed is a better description) that there are so many guys that want to hit on the RMT's thinking that deep down inside, these girls MUST be itching to jerk a guy off for a change.. And as for guys that think they are going to find an RMT that will jerk them off and then process the billing thru their Blue Cross coverage?? OMG... Please, do us all a favor. Stop imagining that every RMT that advertises is going to miraculously provide you with a happy ending. These people are in this business as registered practitioners. This pisses off the RMT's, their Association, and the cops. Give it a rest, fellas...

Well, I've seen her.... .....and I can not recommend based on my experience

It's easy to launch trial balloons in the form of "What if..." questions, especially online where no one knows who anyone is or what their ulterior motive may be. But if I've taken a room at, say, the PanPacific Hotel here in Vancouver and someone goes to the front desk and says that the lady in room 1811 is a prostitute and is entertaining clients there today, I expect the hotel management will laugh long and hard. "Prove it," they will say. "Start by first telling us who you are (and showing some ID), then tell us the name of the person registered in that room and give us a concrete reason to believe that this person is working there." What will you do? Provide your identification? Somehow, I find this difficult to imagine. Can you furnish the name under which the room is registered? I guarantee that you won't be able to do that. Will you be able to provide evidence that someone called Samantha Evans has invited you to consort with her at the PanPacific Hotel this afternoon? Maybe you can. But you won't have a room number and in any case the PanPacific has never heard of Samantha Evans. You can get frustrated and pound the desk. You can roll your eyes and storm around a little bit. You can say that maybe you have the room number wrong, but you know that there's a prostitute in the hotel and you want them to take action, to call the police or at least go and check that room or other rooms. This might be an interesting way to entertain yourself for about five minutes on a rainy Vancouver afternoon in the dregs of winter. But from the hotel's standpoint you will look like a spiteful boyfriend or a malicious ex-partner or someone who's just got it in for a woman who turned him down when he tried to pick her up in the bar. If I do say so myself, no one has ever visited me anywhere and complained about it afterward. Oh, wait. That's not true. See, I had this stalker awhile back.... The police took care of that problem for me. But otherwise, the gentlemen who visit me and who see my colleagues in similar circumstances are no more interested in causing harm to me than I am in harming them or anyone else, anywhere, anytime. We meet. They pay me for my time. We engage in mutually agreeable things, whether we have a meal, play some chess, debate what passes for politics in B.C. or indulge in a wide range of delectable, erotic activities. Usually it's a combination of things. And at the end of our appointed time, we part company amicably. It's that simple. It may transpire that the gentleman and I discover that we're really not quite as compatible as we'd expected. The meeting may go very well, but one or the other of us may not want to repeat. Maybe he was looking for a one-time encounter, nothing more. Astonishingly, a man could discover that a verbal, opinionated woman isn't his preferred cup of tea regardless of her other skills and assets. Whatever the reason, it won't be because one of us has robbed the other, or because either of us was assaulted or has ventured to blackmail the other. Fear-mongering helps no one. But if you believe that most people are out to get you, if you imagine that everyone is hatching some dire plan to bring about your ruin... sweetheart, this is not the right profession for you. You will either take foolish risks that bring about exactly what you hoped to avoid or you will take no chances at all and earn nothing. At the least, you will end up feeling bitter, used and degraded because that's all you expected to feel, no matter how much cash you've got in your hand. More than 99% of the time, if screened effectively, the client is not an enemy.

Go for it Miss G!

A number of us here on cerb think you are actually a guy posing as a lady asking these questions, we have let you continue to see what becomes of this (your intentions).... Some members suspect you may be a guy we recently banned. Your writing style and wording choices scream "male"... We just want to be sure before we ban your account so we are basically letting you hang yourself here,

Advertising is NOT soliciting! Soliciting involves disturbing someone, interrupting their time, taking their attention to offer them an opportunity for an encounter. It is illegal for me to approach someone else in a public place and invite them to pay me for sex. Soliciting on the streets ostensibly prevents the normal flow of traffic when sex workers approach cars at stop signs and traffic lights or when they accost people walking on the sidewalk. Soliciting in other places, such as a hotel bar or lobby, is when the sex worker approaches a patron of the establishment to offer sexual services for money. Soliciting in print is an entirely different matter. This was settled in the 1980s when police laid a series of charges against a Vancouver newspaper that accepted ads from escorts. The court ruled that advertising was not soliciting because no one forced anyone to read the ads. Reading is voluntary in the way that having to deal with someone who comes up to you on the street is not. Anyone who reads escort ads knows or should know what they're reading and they make their choices accordingly. The internet is publicly accessible but is not a public place. No one is forced to go to my website, read the content or make an active decision about whether they want to meet me. I'm easy to find if someone is looking for me or a woman like me who makes available the things that I offer. In the US, some states and cities have tried to re-define or regulate what happens on the Internet in relation to prostitution but, so far, have failed. It is impossible to prevent users from accessing content outside of a city's or state's boundaries. While an ISP can decide not to carry content from other places, they must also face the dilemma of finding or keeping users who are content to have the access restricted in addition to having their actions called into question in relation to free speech rights. Not everything that's available on the Internet is legal. It is illegal in most jurisdictions to look at pornography involving children, for example. It is legal to look at porn involving adults. The courts have so far ruled that cell phone conversations are private. One cannot ordinarily overhear both sides of a call. In many jurisdictions, it is illegal to use electronic devices to listen to cell conversations just as only the police can tap a land-based telephone line and usually have to get a court order allowing them to invade someone's privacy when they do it. If I meet someone at a hotel, at his invitation or mine, we will not discuss what is going to happen before we enter the private room because such a conversation is illegal. On that principle, it would be extremely foolish for me to make a call on or answer my cell phone if I'm in a public place and then engage in a detailed conversation about what I might offer. Many escorts use polite or indirect language when it comes to describing explicitly what we offer. Many of us may say that we are only offering companionship, not sex, and some of us may imagine that this covers us in the event that someone imagines we are soliciting. Many of us also require visitors to our websites to agree that they may be reading or viewing sexually explicit content before they access it. This is polite, but not necessary. It helps prevent people from clicking through the site by accident or when they're in a place, such as at work or in Starbucks, where viewing that content may be a bad idea. Personally, I'm not worried about soliciting. Making statements about offering my time at a certain rate is simply a way of telling prospective clients what I guarantee to provide, period. I will not guarantee to engage in intimate contact or sexual acts with someone I don't know. I may not feel comfortable with the individual for many reasons. I may not feel up to engaging in certain activities every time I see someone. I may be willing to do something with a trusted client that I will not do with a stranger. All I guarantee is to spend the amount of time promised. Of course, one difference between me and many women a prospective client may date is that the likelihood that I will engage in intimate activity with him in a private place is significantly higher. If he and I have had the opportunity to become fairly well-acquainted, it's virtually certain to happen.

You have joined this board just this February, your 3 posts are inquiring about the business of an SP. Your questions are delicate ones, you seem to be wanting "how to go about things from a SPs point of view in the business" But are you really questioning yourself about doing this line of work? I've read your posts and you come across to be very apprehensive about it all. Perhaps with the line of questions you are asking, as Samantha Evans said as well " not every lady is cut out for this line of work" I'm sorry but I read a lot apprehension from yourself, it isn't just the legal aspect of the biz, it is the mental part as well, what happens if your friends find out? Your family? Are you suitable to give your heart and soul to gentlemen that walk through your door? Are you willing to make passionate love to a complete stranger? Or in some cases more than one stranger a day? There are so many other details other than the legal aspect ( which is of course very important) you should really give yourself a "gut check" and ask yourself can you do this line of work? My thoughts on that topic. To your question, I've seen 99% of ladies at their location, I've done 5 outcalls in my time. Real guys/gents don't play blackmailing games, it is called a screening process on the ladies part. Best of luck to you.

Love this discussion! For me it is morals without question. Laws and authority have never held any sway over me... cat

This is absolutely true. But some unwinnable wars are worth fighting anyway, and this is most certainly one of them. Victory will never be declared, but at least we can say we fought.

Thank you all so very much. I have gone through grief counselling it has helped immensely. Your all very right and I to have considered all possibilities of seeing an SP. Guilt, shame, pleasure you know the drill. My hat comes off to all SPs what you ladies do is remarkable. Look what you tried to help me with selflessly. The limits you ladies go to bring joy, excitement, relief and comfort to individuals is at the very forefront of any relationship between all couples. Who knows what the future holds for me, I will satisfy my craving for intimacy, I will one day let my memory of her fade. Move on with my life. Due to your guidance and experience if I decide to see an sp she will look nothing like my wife. Who knows maybe one will find me wouldn't that be a spin! This has been very releaving thank you for allowing me to use this forum as a conduit and for all the advice it has come as a much needed form of letting go. So very sincerely, BF

If you're interested in offering this service, then the best promotion is probably to advertise that people with disabilities will be accepted with respect, communication, imagination and passion. As for training and education, I can recommend the book "The Ultimate Guide to Sex and Disability". It's available at online booksellers, and I believe locally at Venus Envy (http://venusenvy.ca/ultimate-guide-sex-and-disability). Venus Envy also regularly runs a sex and disability workshop (http://venusenvy.ca/events/everybodys-doing-it-talking-about-sex-and-disability-2013-03-26), although I have never attended, so can't comment on it. I'm not an expert in disability other than my own (incomplete spinal cord injury), but can tell you that there's a broad range of issues and some challenges to overcome. Mobility disabilities may require out-calls, positioning assistance - sometimes devices, sometimes lifting by yourself or an attendant. Your tantra chair would certainly be one form of assistive device for CPs, paras and quads that transfer themselves. Overcoming these sorts of challenges is where the imagination comes in. As with the able-bodied, things work better when take your time, ask questions about what works for them, and encourage frank communication! :-)

If you send an email to [email protected] (where the 10 digit cell phone number is a Telus customer) the contents of the email are sent as a text message from 999 999 9999 :)

Darlign gloryhole, I am truly sorry for your loss. I worked as a grief recovery facilitator for 13 years and I don't think you are ready for an intimate encounter at this point. I gently suggest you take a peek at The Grief Recovery Institute. They are leaders at helping people move thru loss and it's important that you address the situation head on. There are programs across the country and their handbook The Grief Recovery Handbook that you can pick up at any book store. Here is the website... http://www.grief.net/ I wish you all the best, please know there is a path forward... cat

Gloryhole I really don't think that you are ready for an intimate encounter right now. You will most likely come out of it with a pile of guilt thinking that you have been unfaithful to your wife. Join a support group or see a professional therapist for your grief issues. You will never get over your loss but someday you will be able to move on and to have encounters with some of the fine ladies here or with a regular girlfriend.

Is for this frickin winter to be over Additional Comments: Is for this frickin winter to be over and a bacon sandwich

i am sorry for your loss...and you miss your wife dearly....however Lola is NOT your wife, and I am afraid that your hope is to make love to your wife , and although Lola may remind you of her in pictures, I think there is a good chance you may be totally dissapointed...my suggestion would be to see someone who does not remind you of your wife, and take it from there. Down the road , once you come to better grips with everyuthing, then to play out that fantasy may be ok, but at this point, I would advise against it, unless you go in knowing full well what may happen. Again , my most sincere condolensecs.

I learned that Gustave Eiffel (designer of the Eiffel Tower and the framework for the Statue of Liberty) had a paralysing fear of heights. I guess I also learned that we should learn to work with our fears and that the results can be pretty remarkable. I also learned that I just like to say Gustave. Gustave! Gustave!

Mourning is a difficult thing to go through. Everyone is different and there's no one "right" way to do it. But if it's been more than a year since your wife died, you might consider joining a group for people who have lost a partner. These are often fantastic! You can find out about them by contacting a funeral home, and I'd suggest you do that rather than go through the standard therapist route, at least at first. In many places, they try to bring together people who are close in age, or people who have children so that there's common ground for participants. it really can help a lot to hear how other people are dealing with situations similar to your own. Finding a companion or two can also be a good thing because you don't have to get into a full-blown relationship before you're ready for one (and you're not ready right now). You can have contact, intimacy and a private, one-on-one encounter without repercussions. If you want to see a companion more than once, go for it. If not, no worries. Attending to your physical needs can sometimes make it easier to work through emotional ones. Go easy on yourself!

I understand that you're feeling impatient and want answers to your questions, as well as some tips and strategies about how to do things. Every question you've asked about the law is answered, several times, in the Legal discussion and most are referred to extensively in other areas, as well. For the most part, the best information comes from established, long-time members of the board so pay particular attention to their posts. When it comes to things like strategies for working outcalls, transportation, etc., those are important considerations and most are also discussed on the boards, here. Frankly, the best way for you to learn how to deal with these things would be to start with a good agency. Since you've not said where you are, it will be difficult for anyone here to make a recommendation in your area. Please don't take offense at what I'm going to say, but this part of your post is likely to be considered deeply insulting, not only to many of the ladies here, but also to many of the gentlemen as well. One critical thing that you need to understand is that the best so-called "high end" paid companions defend and are protective of women who work outdoors and those who have health problems and addictions. You won't find much tolerance on this board for denigrating any SP, anywhere, because of her looks or personal habits. We do discuss safer sex all the time and while we generally advise prospective clients to seek companionship from a reputable independent or a good agency, we don't put down women who, for many serious and difficult reasons, face so many challenges that they must work in compromising conditions. Your assumption that many companions offer poor quality and/or unsafe encounters is troubling. I don't know which sex workers' blogs you have been reading, or where you get your information, but as someone who has worked as an independent for many years, both in Toronto and in Vancouver, what you describe is not my experience, anywhere. No one should have to engage in activities she deems to be unsafe. Ever. I have to say, though, that I think your problems will have to do with not knowing how to screen potential clients and not knowing how to manage the volume of requests you would receive as a "new girl." These are also reasons to begin to work with a good agency. Starting out as an independent is tempting, but it's frequently a very bad idea. Yes, you'll make less per call with an agency. But you'll also have lower expenses and you'll be working with people who do know what they're doing and how the industry works. You need that knowledge and expertise behind you and, frankly, you don't have it yet. Without it, you will inevitably get into trouble. Are you aware that this statement verges on hostility? If you truly believe these things, I have to say that you don't really understand what the misconceptions and myths about the sex trade are. Speaking for myself, I have been a paid companion for over a decade. I have never engaged in any activity that I felt was unsafe--assuming, that is, that you're referring to things that increase one's potential for exposure to STIs. I'm also old enough to be your mother. I have never considered myself to be in competition with anyone. I work hard and I make a good living. I attribute my success to accepting the realities of this profession, to identifying my particular market niche and serving it very well, and to gaining the respect of my colleagues. That last thing--the respect of colleagues--is essential. If you do decide to work as a paid companion, no one, no matter how well-meaning or close to you, will understand what your life is really like. You will need the support and care of other companions so that you can stay safe, make good decisions and get support when things go wrong. No one ever avoids having things go wrong, regardless of what they may say. But there are ways to avoid some problems that you may not even imagine exist and there are ways to manage the things that you can't avoid. In general, we don't discuss these things in public forums. You will need to gain others' support in order to have access to this information. If you're just investigating this as an option, I would recommend that you find something else or some other way to take care of your problems. The sex trade is not the right thing for most women. If you're seriously considering becoming a paid companion, my advice is to step back, take some calming breaths and clear your mind. Only a minute percentage of women enter the sex trade because it's their ideal, intended career path. Nearly everyone has had some significant problem in her life and suddenly needs to earn a lot of money fairly quickly. In other words, most don't start out in the best frame of heart and mind. You can still do it, but you need to be careful, you need to be thoughtful and you need to learn to listen. An arrogant attitude will be a liability. Over-confidence is a mask for fear that prevents addressing the things that cause fear to begin with.

Wow! What a lot of hard-asses. I am generally described as being just to the right of Ghengis Khan in matters of business, and advertising, however, I think that banishment is being unduly harsh in this case. I have no patience or tolerance for B&S, lies etc on ads. However, she was new, didn't know better and appears to have learned her lesson. At best, we let her back in, and she is a model citizen. At worst, she screws up again and her ass gets banned for ever. This has been so public now, most people will be taking anything she says with a grain of salt.

Gotta add Serina Saint to this list. Very hot!! I recommended her in the Toronto section but she's also been impressing Halifax, I see :) Additional Comments: And guess who???

She is the only licensed sp in Winnipeg. she has her own webpage if you check her on ec she has the link there. she is also a member here on cerb.

The bananas I bought two weeks ago are still green. These are obviously not trustworthy bananas.