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I have read the entire tread and if I have done any of those to any gents I have met and they read this..I apologize in advance(I know I have been guilty to not reply fast enough at time due to my travels) I personally do not like the babe Hun etc name when I never met someone however it seem it the new type of intro some guys do. I try in general not to use those words as I hate them... My usual reply to text like that is Hello it's Victoria ..how can I help you ? I know it may sound cold however nice introduction always help to smooth a convo

One that is a turn off for me is when the SP and I are in the "act" and she begins to tell me to "cum for me baby" right after the act has begun. I really enjoy the intimacy of two people intertwined and I like this to last a little longer than 60 secs. As I am a little older now, it ain't going to happen in 60 secs. but this can be a real turn off for me, even to the point of wilting, if you know what I mean.

They know that. They also know that any legal challenge to the laws will take a decade, more or less, before the SCC rules on it... by which time it'll be someone else's problem. This isn't an effort to solve any problems. It's just kicking the can down the road.

Gents there is a phone number posted on this ad . Why not call and ask the correct questions ? Even better stick with a recommended Cerb lady . I am not trying to say Cerb ladies are the only answers to your prayers . However as some one that does not have the opportunity to be on here as much as I should I continuously see questions about this lady or that one from another site . Guys you already have a really good idea about most of the ladies on here and if you don't I bet its pretty easy to find out via PM. It always astounds me to see you novice and senior hobbyists questioning ladies from other sites and they are sometimes sketchy with quite a low donation . More than many times I see that gents have been burned and disappointed with the time spent with these bargains. Gee on a larger scale when I was younger and wanted to travel to exotic destinations I " dreamed of a less expensive place and hoped I'd have a wonderful vacation. Alas it was usually a pipe dream. Now I book only high quality and proven resorts . These past few years have been my best vacations . I expect quality and I pay for quality . Some how I have not been able to find a " cheap bargain " Food for thought!

The Hun, dear, sweets, pet names don't bother me. They are actually quite endearing. Lack of attentiveness (seeming preoccupied), televisions blaring or cell phones ringing make me feel less than important and in some way unwelcome. Soft music, candles etc. have the opposite effect on me. A lady not seeming to be ready when I arrive - "wait, I'll only be a minute" or a messy incall are also turnoffs. To much perfume or sickly sweet air fresheners (usually used to disguise tobacco smoke) are also a turnoff.

Ladies can call me whatever works for them, it is the service that I enjoy. Biggest turn-off at the beginning, is being told to wait... and wait and wait. Not a great start. I would say the next is the absence of some basic services that I thought we agreed to. Kissing, Daty, etc. Anyway, I tried to avoid this by asking more questions, but think sometimes this might irritate the ladies. Additional Comments: Ladies can call me whatever works for them, it is the service that I enjoy. Biggest turn-off at the beginning, is being told to wait... and wait and wait. Not a great start. I would say the next is the absence of some basic services that I thought we agreed to. Kissing, Daty, etc. Anyway, I tried to avoid this by asking more questions, but think sometimes this might irritate the ladies.

This site ONLY allows positive comments in public posts. If you do not have anything positive to say about a SP (or anything for that matter) when someone asks please simply say nothing at all. You can PM them if you wish with PRIVATE INFO but do not post publicly. You CAN NOT POST comments like I do not recommend Info on other site don't do it! stay away not worth it etc... etc.... etc......... That is NOT what this site is for. YES we know some of you would like it to be and YES we know some of you feel it is your god given right to post whatever you want on our members only board but the truth is... our house our rules and we DO NOT want it here. If you must read negative comments or if you must post negative comments then please do so on OTHER websites... or start your own. Do not PM me after I give you a warning or infraction telling me how I should run the site either (This is especially annoying with new members) yes of course mr. 1 post guy you can tell me how we should run the site you are so helpful! (NOT!) If you don't like our rules... start your own website and let us enjoy this one.

By being here or writing reviews after the Nordic model comes to pass

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I just love how succulent they are :) Additional Comments: I also love hearing a woman enjoying having them licked and sucked...Plus it helps get my tongue warmed up LOL :)

As will you, apparently. I can't speak to pimping; I have not directly experienced or witnessed such a thing. However, I did know a provider who preferred not to see blue (because really, what does the specific race matter?) male clients, because she had once been assaulted by a blue man. It wasn't explicitly advertised that she wouldn't see blue men, but she could often ascertain a client's race via screening methods. She knew that she didn't want to take the risk of having a client who would remind her of her assailant. I also knew a provider who came from a small, close-knit community, and preferred not to see clients from that same community, because she didn't want to risk encountering someone who might know her in "real" life. So, let's not jump to conclusions. There are a myriad of reasons why someone might choose to exclude certain clients.

I don't think you have anything to worry about just yet. The bill has to pass through Parliament & then Senate so it's not a done deal. I think the constitutionality of a new bill (especially this one) will be under the microscope. LE probably don't make any investigative moves retroactively prior to new law being enacted. They would be chasing their tails trying to prove criminal activity before something is actually considered a criminal offense. They also have to decide how to enforce new law. Will they use this forum as a tracker tool - they probably already do but so what?.... How many Senators (remember Wilbur Keon?), Ministers, Politicians, Backroom boys are clients themselves? What do you wanna bet those guys are gonna be chewing their nails about keeping their jobs if they pass an unpopular or stupidly draconian bill.

I'm guilty of not visiting my favorite groups often but, dog lovers in particular doesn't get any attention, imo, as do many:( So I stopped going, perhaps it's time to visit more:)

The common point that people make is that sp's are more informed and vigilant - some are and some are not It's often compared against picking up women in clubs who are less informed. Anyone giving bbbjs is in contact with potentially infected tissue More often than can reasonably be assumed when u r meeting some one in a bar I also don't thjnk that wanting information is ever really an issue wanting to be informed is the best way to protect every body's health.

Yes it will take time, I agree...BUT it s also going to take time for me to make my own changes. I would see my lawyer as I need to understand and prepare to make changes for my business. I am an agency in a very small town, so if they are going through with Nordic model I need to know exactly what "benefiting off others" is going include. Not just the girls who work here that pay me their fee, but also to the person I am paying my rent to. This is not the case for INDY providers, but I strongly feel agency's can become a target for them to watch closely, whereas I am stationary and do not travel it would be much easier for LE to gather info and harass my clients. Granted, they have their hands full with looking at the agency's who cause disturbances, minors etc. Besides, should it not be expected that I would, as a business owner who have many people depending on the fact I keep myself in the know, to protect the people that surround my business and especially protecting my clients that come and go from my location? It's the whole reason I have a lawyer in the first place.

Nordic Model proponents do not really believe that it's "okay" to sell sexual services. In fact, quite the opposite. The ideology believes that all sex workers are victims of male violence, pimps, mental issues, and "the patriarchy". It's grandiose purpose is unabashedly the complete outright abolition of sex work. It's plan is to achieve this by scaring clients from buying sexual services (with criminalisation), and therefor ending all demand for sexual services. Those who want to introduce a Nordic Model style of law to Canada believe that through basic legislation and criminalisation, Canada will be the only place on earth without prostitution. Here is a simple fact sheet about why we strongly oppose the failed Nordic model: http://chezstella.org/docs/Infosheets/En/ciminalizing_the_purchase_140322.pdf And here is a fact sheet about the "New Zealand model", which we propose (full decriminalisation of sex work): http://chezstella.org/docs/Infosheets/En/new_zealand_140322.pdf And yes, post Bedford decision, a Nordic style law will be challenged, and will not pass constitutional muster. Canada will have decriminalisation of sex work, maybe soon, maybe in 15 years. Truth is, clients are already criminalised through bawdy house laws and solicitation laws. They do not stop clients from purchasing sexual services, and the SCC said those laws were unconstitutional. This kind of law would be too. I'm really waiting to see what the new legislation will be, before getting ahead of myself though. It's coming down this week.

The new legislation is being presented this week. Let's wait to see what the new legislation actually IS, before we get ahead of ourselves. I'll post again when it comes down, along with a brief from our Canadian sex worker rights legal team about what it will actually mean for all of us. Follow or check out @CDNSWAlliance for all the latest. This is an alliance of all the main sex worker advocacy and rights groups from across the country. You don't need to have a Twitter account to see their tweets or click the links they post.

All-in you are 100% correct!. Usually they are up to no good and are looking for girls to pimp. I've experience this myself so I stay away.

Hi everyone, I just read this and I would like to clarify a few things. I believe like many have said, there are many reasons for SPs to prefer a certain clientele but please let's not generalize about black males being "pimps", "lacking hygiene" or not "being respectful" cause that happens with all races. And I speak from experience. Again, an SP has the right to choose the clientele she's comfortable with but I find such prejudice based on skin color very unfair and many black males that are very respectful suffer from this misconception. For your information, there are also black males that are safe, professionals, respectful, polite & definitely not pimps. Let's keep our eyes open to avoid the bad guys, but let's not generalize. Thank you

Nothing sucks today.... really good day.

Having some thieves steal tools and gas can out the back box of my truck, lesson learned, guess I should had the tunnel cover locked up.

I think I just cleaned out Amazon's stock of sex work literature.

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Good question, if the Nordic model were to pass and my understanding of it correct, that le will then target clients, sadly, then perhaps they could use internet trails for prosecuting . A stretch perhaps. But also a possibility? I'll be interested in the responses. Personally, no matter which way the gavel swings, I'm here if they want me, no hiding, and I won't change my ways to conform to those with sticks up their asses:)

Just to comment on how the media has dealt with the "online" survey: "Majority of Canadians..." as if a online survey could lead to a such conclusion. The Harper Conservatives have always tried to use demagogic means to get to their point; they abolished the mandatory census to hide the reality of Canadians. Now with this "online farce consultation", they will base their policy on an approximative and biased results of a non-scientific survey. But the Conservatives have an agenda, and they will, unfortunately, use their majority in Parliement to buy time.

Who are USUALLY up to no good? Additional Comments: There are lies, damned lies and statistics. With your mode of reasoning.......

Are you talking about highsexdrivebabe? She's on here maybe worth it to look abd see if they are the same lady?

I'm not sure who your reply is addressing but I'll respond by saying that most of us don't define our relationships by dictionary terms and standards. Of course everyone is going to respond and see those terms differently. Your example is understandable, but we could also say the mother loves and accepts her son for being the way he is. No she doesn't condone his behavior but she understands and accepts that he has flaws, she loves him. Some of us who don't separate the two would look at it that way, neither is wrong. However those who speak professionally about these topics would probably see it differently:) We all love in our own ways, for our own needs, some more than others, some don't at all. What ever brings you happiness and peace is what you should seek:)

The second part of my recent trip to South Asia was an encounter with Anjali at Vibe Urban Spa. My first visit - same level of ambiance / comfort I am used to from CMJ, which was nice. Another wonderful experience ( I don't seem to have that many that go south - innuendo unintended ). Again, my recent "interest" in ample breasts (see Part 1) was immediately satisfied. Anjali has glorious tits and I must say I found myself quite hot and bothered. I'm usually a bit more laid-back... an "enjoying-the-moment" kind-a-guy.. but boob play in the shower soon turned into some acrobatics that I didn't have proper time to stretch for. Yes, I'm getting old! LOL! And Anjali also has an adorable, spankable ass.. so I did. And that was fun too! : ) Hope to repeat before she leaves at the end of June.

Love IS acceptance. If you have someone who says they love you but the can't accept you for who you are and constantly want to change you, that is not love. Llove is not conditional on meetings someone else's expectations. You can be happy without someone else's acceptance as long as you have your own IMO. Spending your time chasing after someone else's is just a waste of time and energy and never really makes you happy in the end because their conditional love may change conditions. Happy comes from within. It is important to focus on what you have versus what you don't have because with one you can be content and happy while the other is always chasing something elusive. There are very few people who achieve complete happiness but the right perspective can give you day to day joy.

Honestly, this whole matter makes me nauseous. I really felt that the laws that we had before were the best compromise, especially considering the ways they were enforced. The most screwed up markets in Canada always seemed to me to be the ones that tried to regulate it through bylaws and licensing. I also don't see how any of this is going to reduce street prostitution or make street prostitution any safer. But how lucky for the CPC to have this issue dropped in their laps just in time for the next elections. Great distraction. Sigh.

Sorry I have to disagree...lolol... i have seen women in Lululemon and naked... both are nice but definitely not the same.

I don't believe we can live without love. Love comes in so many forms, not just human entanglements. There is romantic love, familial love, love for a pet or a career or a cause one is passionate about. Love is a central need that we, as humans, have. Even those who never had a relationship or sexual relations have probably still felt the need and lure of love, just in a different way than most people perceive it. One of the greatest of these is self love. Very few people would look at this as love or a fundamental need but when it's not present, everything around is impacted. Self love impacts esteem, acceptance, overcoming fear to take on new challenges, to go after what we're passionate about no matter what it is. Babies, disabled, mentally challenged etc all have needs of love, they just look different and sometimes it takes a different perspective or a lot of searching. This, I believe, is ingrained because these people must rely on others for so many things. It is not a choice, it is a fundamental need. There have been so many studies done on behavior and learning and in most of these, there is a thread of love and connection. Love is such an expansive concept that to touch on even half the aspects would require a much longer post than anyone would care to read. Bottom line is, I believe no matter what form it takes, it is a need and one that everyone has. It's when this need is denied that life is negatively impacted and the side effects come out. There are so many stories based around people not having something important in their life or losing it or fearing it. No matter the topic, I believe a lot boils down to lack of love in some form or another.

The best way to avoid an STI is to set personal limits. The most serious STIs are normally spread by full sexual intercourse. There are so many low risk options: body slides, prostate massage, and hand jobs. These options have minimal risk of infection and disease and they are still very thrilling. Furthermore, if you are married or in a relationship, you need to consider the seriousness of passing an STI to your wife/partner. There is risk in any sexual and physical encounter. You could even get shingles or warts by accidentally sharing a towel with someone at the gym! Anyway, it is good to decide what degree of risk you are willing to take. You do not want to be kicking yourself and to be full of regret because you picked up an STI or, even worse, if you gave an STI to someone. How guilty would you feel in that case? Anyway, it is food for thought.

Some people worry and cringe and shrink Owing to fear of what people may think There is but one answer to worries like these People may think what the devil they please! Piet Hein

I'll jump in on behalf of Newfoundlanders. Terms of endearment are the norm here. You come to NL to visit and you could be "Hun", "sweetie", "my love", "my treasure" and "my darling" all in one day, from 5 different complete strangers. Lol Since I moved here 6 years ago, i have picked up this habit (ask Emily Rushton lol). But it is genuine and meant as a legitimate term of endearment. Food for thought :) xo

As I read through these post I find myself agreeing with the comments but am even more struck by the fact that I have really not had many things to complain about.... my experience has been meeting great ladies who almost always go over and above in making sure I enjoy my time with them... on occasion I have been called cute names like Hun and baby and while on first impression I don't really live it... i find it really depends on how it is said .... then I also stop and think.... lol what's a lady to do... she's not coming up with cute names to piss us off but to try and make us feel special so it really never bothers me any more. I gave virtually no experience with no shows so that has not been a problem. The only real time I was upset was a time when a lady I only met once broke confidentially and discussed that I had seen her with another SP in my home area. I don't really care if the other lady knew who I had seen it was simply the fact that it was done intentionally to cause some drama. Never have or will see the lady again. I actually have been impressed by this industry... i gave mire problems with my bank and phone company than I do with ladies in this industry. Says something about the character of the ladies I have met. Thank You. Just my opinion

It's already been said, but I have to repeat it, "how are you hun?". If SP's could drop the word "hun" from their vocabulary altogether the world would be a better place :)

So, let's review. OP asks why some providers specify no black customers. Replies include because she's a bigot. She has an black "agent" (can we just be plain and call him a pimp?), blacks (not all but enough to warrant a rule) have cleanliness issues and haggle. Did I miss anything? You just know where I'm going with this, don't you? There's enough "judgemental" in this short thread to feed a family of four for a week. How about we go with the idea that the provider just chooses not to see black men for reasons known only to her. Just like some choose not to see old men, some not young men. Not sure how the putative pimp showed up so early. We all know cleanliness and haggling are not race based. So I would go with this answer to the OP question: because she chooses to (or not) and there's no accounting for taste.

Gentlemen, Not to be a stick in the mud, but it might be better to invite private responses to this type of question from one of the providers. No one has expressed public shock, but some, if not all, providers may not appreciate having their most intimate physical details discussed in a public forum. If you have information that you wish to share, you might also contact the OP by PM and disseminate that in a more discrete manner. Remember gents, we are talking about human beings with feeling, emotions and personalities, not a collection of random body parts that have been assembled for your amusement.

Um... Like I said, I didn't want to assume to understand your intentions so I asked. Your explanation has come across that you've written lots of threads and posts and are trying to figure out what makes people click thank or nominate a post, and if they don't because they don't like the OP. I will speak only for myself - I am an adult, who has no time for drama or childish behavior. Therefore I don't have the time to had select which threads or posts I'm going to thank or nominate based on a like it dislike system. If it resonates with me and who I am, then I thank it. If it's considerate and touching, then I thank it. If it really touches me deeply, or makes so much sense to me it's awe inspiring, then I nominate it. And when the mood strikes I respond. Or start my own thread. I am still not clear what thanking posts and nominating posts has to do with supporting others within this industry. Yes, there are those who have formed bonded friendships. But that's not the point. I, for example, am a person who truly believes we get what we give. I believe in mutual respect and acceptance, regardless of differences. The golden rule: Do unto others... I have dignity and confidence in who I am. I encourage safe experiences equally among the sex workers I am associated with. I make recommendations to valued clients so they may have safe, pleasurable experiences too. I don't waste my time or energy on competition or ownership. I am me. Those who choose to see me do so at their own free will. Those who choose to associate with me (or not) do so at their own free will. In short, so I support SP's and hobbiests having a safe, pleasureable and mutually beneficial time in this industry? Of course I do. Do I think it has anything to do with thanking or nominating posts, or replying to threads? Not for me it doesn't!

It's standard procedure that a clinic or even your doctor's office will only contact you if your test results are positive. I have never been offered a copy of the test results, but I suppose I could get a copy if I requested. But for reasons mentioned above, the results on that piece of paper are only as accurate as the day they were printed on. Bottom line is it's impolite and 99% guaranteed you will be declined for a date.

My responses: 1. Do you think that purchasing sexual services from an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. Comment: No as long as there is no duress involved. Duress is already covered by other laws though so prostitution should not require a special case. 2. Do you think that selling sexual services by an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. Comment: No. For many women it can be an excellent and profitable career path. 3. If you support allowing the sale or purchase of sexual services, what limitations should there be, if any, on where or how this can be conducted? Please explain. Comment: I don't think there need to be codified rules although cities may wish to use zoning rules (like with strip clubs) to limit where bawdy houses can be located. I feel that existing loitering rules would be sufficient to keep street prostitution from being problematic. 4. Do you think that it should be a criminal offence for a person to benefit economically from the prostitution of an adult? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain. Comment: No. Existing rules cover extortion and human trafficking. Prostitutes should be able to hire assistants without fear of prosecution. 5. Are there any other comments you wish to offer to inform the Government's response to the Bedford decision? Comment: Stop being patronizing and paternalistic. Prostitutes are adults making adult choices and you can't assume that everyone doing it is somehow forced into it. Many women enjoy sex and have found that selling sexual services is a profitable and liberating way to make a living. They choose their hours, their clients, the acts they wish to provide, their fees and often can make far more money than they would at other professions. Yes, there are risks associated with this job but many other jobs have risks as well and we don't criminalize those career paths. 6. Are you are writing on behalf of an organization? If so, please identify the organization and your title or role: Comment: No.