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Not sure if this has been posted BUT it is important. This is the actual process of how a bill becomes law in Canada. http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/House/compendium/web-content/c_g_legislativeprocess-e.htm So when you are fretting about Bill SeeDirtySex (C36) remember what was tabled on Wednesday is like a piece of cloth before it gets tailored into a suit. IT IS NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT. An all party committee will scrutinize the living shit out of the current bill. You can bet that more than one member will PUBLICLY suggest that the bill is absolutely contrary to the SCC decision and will suggest sending the bill or parts thereof to the SCC as a series of test questions. You know how the SCC has ruled - in unanimity. What can you do in the interim? Contact your MP. Demand a written response. Organize. Organize. Organize. If you are a part of a SW organization, enlist the support of human rights organizations. Have THEM speak on your behalf in concert with your own voice. Find SW friendly artists, authors, educators and other persons of note to advocate for you. Get Elizabeth May on board. Get the NDP on board. Get the Liberals on board. Don't get sidetracked on side issues. No tangents. You want to gain support NOT alienate. This bill affects both sexes. In the resounding words of Pierre Elliot Trudeau - "There's no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation." That was nearly 50 years ago. Let's NOT go backwards. Just some food for thought.

Yesterday, I had a call from 411 directory. They wanted to know if my ad needed updates. I asked he was aware of the new bill that may be our new laws. I continued to inform him, he was greatly concerned and irritated by the whole thing. Not for his job or anything, as 411 has many other business to advertise for. He said he would speak to his supervisor about this, and what they plan to do with the escort category. He also said that he will do his part in writing to different offices, voicing his concern too. Hope that he does! I was happy to see that someone outside of my business and this bored to be genuinely concerned. I know is just one person on a phone, but gives me a glimmer of hope that others will also become more and more aware of this disturbing bill.

If I send a picture to a lady that I've met,or have had a mutual respect for, I will always ask firstly. It seals a bond of huge trust between each other, and that, I respect the most in this business and friendships. It is not about me showing off certain body parts of mine, as I'm not that buffed young looking lad, nope I'm just that mature early fifties gent, showing my face or my body to her is telling her "hey I value your trust,honesty and friendship" so here is a picture for you. I'm not feeling nervous,or invincible perhaps a little naughty, and yes I actually feel desired, happy,accepted, yes thrilled too when when she says "yes" It is about respect and a hint of naughtiness that sets a tone for a date. I had to send a photo to a companion down state side for her screening process, last fall, ever since then we still exchange emails once and a while to say hello, it built a very trusting SP and gent friendship and to me that is very important. I also like to believe that my photos are her property now, and she wouldn't share them, and that is a bond and trust that she must keep, so it has it's benefits for both involved.

Any communications that include.... I am young and hung and handsome I really don't need to pay for sex but have x amount to offer you. Are you available? I am right around the corner. How much will x dollars get me. Do you offer a discount for students (or unemployed) There are unfortunately so many more but u get the idea

The integrists of the conservative party have gone to the limit of their fanatism. Maybe they should bring back the Inquisition where they burned the witches and the fornicators.

Just wanted to say that after being on Cerb for 4 years and meeting many SP's and MA's over the years that I have learnt a lot about the women who have chosen the is path as a career. Most of them have chosen this career because they enjoy the independence and financial freedom that it can bring. But this job is not easier. Many of them have families or kids to support. University educations that they are trying to complete. This job is demanding as it involves many hours of marketing, emailing, posting ad's answering text and PM's. Trying to get hotel, schedule appointments. The women who are most successful at this job are the one's that truly enjoy their work and like to please their clients. I've met many of these women and have truly enjoyed my time with them time and again. This can be a stressful time as they need the time to prepare the room and prepare themselves for each encounter. Some day's it can busy and other day's not. Some day's they meet some really fun gentlemen and other days, maybe some creeps. Some have been robbed, or beaten up or cheated. Sometimes there no shows or other girls that make fake appointments. This is a hard job. Sometimes it is physically demanding. They give their most intimate moments. It takes a certain kind of woman to handle the emotions and sexual activities that this job may entail. One SP, told me that it's not the physical aspect that is tiring. But the emotional aspect. To be able to pretend to enjoy themselves when they are not. She was saying that in this job she had to be the giver all the time and that most of the men were takers. Her Job was to give them pleasure and most men just used her to get as much pleasure for themselves. These women deserve more, they deserve to be treated kindly and with respect. Respect their time and their contact protocol. Be a gentlemen and be clean. Do not try to negotiate their rates, or push them for more then they are willing to offer. Give them a massage to start, make it about them in the beginning. They may have had a hard day, and appreciated a little kindness and tenderness and relaxation. Talk to them, they are people also, not just objects of your lust. Treat them well and with respect and kindness. I've been told by them, that it doesn't matter how old or what you look like. As long as you are a gentlemen and clean, you will be treated well. Remember, that they are there to make you happy and are providing a very intimate service, so you should appreciate they company they provide. If the chemistry and connection are there, you will have a great time. If the connection is real, it pays to return for repeat sessions. I have repeated many times with many of the women, and have found that each session get's better and better, as you get to know each other and are more relaxed with each other. I have had several good friendships developed over the years and have maintained them. Just wanted to say this to thank you to the women of Cerb for the fun and kindness that they have given us men over the years. I hope to meet many more of you over the next few years if I can :) Remember guys. Be a gentleman, be clean and respectful and you shall be rewarded. Oh yeah, one more thing. The woman should always cum first :)

You don't do one bulk email you do an mail merge in Word that allows you to quickly create individual specific emails for each person. Really easy to do. Just my opinion.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/prostitution-law-changes-have-chance-of-surviving-court-challenge-1.2669996

Well I know I would have had a lot less encounters over the past four years if I scared...er shared my photo with a lady I wanted to see LOL And thank you to all those ladies who after first glance of me, still came into my hotel room RG

I'd often sent facial photo's prior to meeting so the women could practice not being disappointed when they opened the door and saw my mug for the first time :) Peace MG

Hi there, Simply wanted to say that Keri is a good friend of mine whom you'll feel very comfortable with. She's is a beautiful ebony lady with huge breasts and great assets :). So, if you're into big breasts and a fun time with a lady who knows how to make a man happy, go see her! ;-)

hi there, thank you for checking my ad. You will not be disappointed with my A+++ services ( the lady, the services, the place) My name is Vivian. I'm 26 years old. Gorgeous, i am a classy looking Lady with long black hair, seductive cat eyes and full sexy lips, beautiful silky soft, tanned skin. work out body with all the right curves in the right places (32C, 24, 34) You have finally met the sweet girl next door, also the naughty girl in your dreams... I greet you at the door with a lovely smile then lead you to the massage room...I will start with a deep soothing tissue massage to relax all your muscles then follow with a soft, sensual, tease touch to invigorate your whole body then the fun time ... It will be the most relaxing, creative and passionate session for you ever. So amazing that you cannot help yourself from thinking about it and want to come back for more ! http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=92146 For relaxing massage $40/30m $50/45m $70/60m appointment only, call/text me at 613 712 1200 mon to sat 10am to 7pm __________________

My answer right now would really have to be that I am unsure at the moment. I am still reasonably confident that reason will prevail and that this political foolishness will be withdrawn. If not, then I suppose as the saying goes, "Where there's a will, there's a way."

Teehee!

This one's a giant "Meh" at the moment. First, as has been said, nothing is law yet. Second, even if the bill becomes law unchanged... I'm wondering how many folks who quit initially will get bored of the company of their own right hands after a week, or a month, or whatever, and drift back...

http://www.macleans.ca/politics/is-the-proposed-prostitution-law-constitutional/

I hate these discussions because essentially they all boil down to "it's a sex worker's choice who s/he sees." But if you're making race-based generalizations as your reasoning for why you won't see XYZ race, well you're being racist. Discriminate based on bad behaviour, not race.

One further thing that came to me over the last few hours. PLEASE engage the potential leaders that are vying to fill the position that Shawn Atleo left as National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations. This bill completely ignores the outcry of the First Nations in regard to the disappearances and murders of 3000 Aboriginal women. In fact, it further endangers the countless women who may fall or have fallen victim to creatures like Robert Pickton, many of whom were First Nations. The United Nations is investigating the disappearances and the unheeded call for government action to solve this horrible phenomenon. THIS BILL FURTHER JEOPARDIZES THE PLIGHT OF ABORIGINAL WOMEN. In an era where the Conservative government values international reputation as highly as it does, it certainly can't afford overt UN condemnation. More food for thought.

Aaaah, Lee! You silly boy, you! Don't think, not for one minute, that those politicians are missing out on the good things in life - they all love to fuck, especially us - they just don't understand they're now screwing the ladies they love to fuck!

The Regressive Conservatives. Let's turf them in the next election.

Hey ladies what is a major turn off when someone is looking to book a time with you ? One thing I absolutely hate is when someone texts me and says....What's up? Like really lol that will not grab my attention First impressions mean everything and I prefer a gentlemen being respectful and courteous when inquiring about my ......... For an example; Hello how are you or Hi I am .... and I am interested in knowing more about you and your ........!......so much better

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1183056-an-act-to-amend-the-criminal-code-in-response-to.html It's bad guys. Really bad.

Beach. Sun, sand, tunes, scantily clad ladies... What's not to like? Two hour Play Dates every day for a week or a three day long Get a Way Play Date?

LOL u have a nice varied selection there.

Here are my top ten favorite positions. Sorry for all the pictures but I am not very good with names.

I agree completely with that. Not only aboriginal women but all of the women on the fringes of this business. I can never understand the politicians who hold themselves up to be the protector of certain vulnerable members of our society by creating policies that only drive those most vulnerable farther underground and putting them at greater risk. I guess it shouldn't surprise me, though. Most of these politicians are born with a silver spoon and don't really give a rats ass about the less fortunate, despite their proclamations from on high.

Come enjoy my sensational massage at a discreet west-end location! Don't miss out on an amazing session with a beautiful young lady! You deserve to be spoiled and I wanna be the one to do it for you. Finally an MA that undeniably loves to play! Sessions include full body massage, reverse massage, extremely hot body slides, mutual touching/rubbing. Call or text(613)-302-3007 You won't be sorry you did! You will leave feeling sensational. Duo's available with my couger! She's smokin hot!

My many years as a father have taught me that sometimes when someone has an ache or pain that they can be distracted by a kiss on the affected area.... given my years of experience I would be happy kiss your navel to make you feel better... in fact if helpful I would be happy to kiss any part of you that you want. ;) lolol Damn us Newfoundlanders can be so selfless and giving. Lol

A 50" Panasonic flat screen tv. Bring on the porn! :icon_lol:

White lacy cheeky undies today :)

White silky with black design flowers...VS style...so comfy and sexy :) Additional Comments: But no bra...gotta be comfy for the road...

Welcome to cerb guys! Indeed, cerb is quite different from other boards, there's lots of amazing gentlemen here and lovely ladies to discover. Hope you enjoy cerb as much as we do ;-) Eva xoxo

Really shouldn't listen or put a whole lot of value in some posts on boards as far as I'm concerned. Kathryn above gave you the appropriate information regarding a new bill becoming law.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LEGISinfo/Faq....E&Mode=1#ID0EQ

Ohhhh Jason.... Here is my suggestion..... IF IF the bill passes ? Go live the lifestyle and get fucked anyways ! Everyone's doing it !! Just adapt to change :) !!! If you want to be boring and miss the good things in life ....get into politics..........

Being able to help a dear friend pay off a student loan, she just needed a bit of help. When she worked with me, I always knew she could do awesome things with her life, and so so nice to see her achieve her goals! GO GIRL GO!!! Off to school again soon!

Regardless of the various interpretations of what is OK and what is not OK there will be an impact from today's announcement. Some won't stick around to find out what's what and will view it as too much risk and will split from the game both johns and providers. Peace MG

My reading , for what it is worth, says that Savannahs is correct. An independent is free to advertise. Agencies it seems would not. It would be a crime for anyone to communicate in any way with the independent about the advertisement but the advertisement it seems will be legal.

I like your analysis.... In my opinion I think the biggest risk is that the threat of criminal charges will cause some people who might gave seen an SP to be nervous and not proceed... this will restrict the market and make it much harder for SP who do not have established clients. Just my opinion

A few initial thoughts on this. Full disclosure: I've read Pivot's analysis of it, but not the bill itself (I've scanned the bill, and it's basically impossible to follow unless you're already familiar with existing legislation). Anyway... ...yes, it's bad, but I see no reason to panic. The sky is not falling, despite the government's wish to drop it on us. As Gia noted, this is not a final bill; it's an opening bid in a political process. Some provisions in there will be things the government really wants to make happen, but some will be stuff that's there purely to be negotiated away so that the government can claim they're being reasonable. Yes, the government has a majority... but negotiations will still take place and compromises will happen. An aside: given the government's current relations with the SCC, I can't help but wonder how much of this is less about sex work than Harper just wanting to deliver a solid "Fuck you" to the court. Obviously sex workers and their clients are just collateral damage here... On communication: it still talks about "any place", and the Internet (including email) is still not a "place". On advertizing: does the law prevent the hosting of ads, or just the placing of them? The former is completely unenforceable; contrary to what some others have said in this thread, anything outside of Canada is beyond the jurisdiction of Canadian courts, as are any servers physically located in another country and run by a non-Canadian company. So, to pick three more enlightened countries at random: if we set up cerb.de, hosted on servers in New Zealand by an Australian company, the courts here are powerless. And for those who disagree with me on that... think for a moment about Wikileaks. Think about Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald, and what they've published between them. Think about the stuff they've put online, and how much it has pissed off the most powerful and technologically advanced nation in the world... and on a subject far more important to The Powers That Be than sex work could ever become. Can they stop it? Can they shut those people down? Of course not, or they would have already done so. Given that, do you really think the Canadian government will be able to kill a board like this if it's hosted abroad, even if they were foolish enough to try? Now, if the placing of an ad is a crime... well, that's enforceable. But will LE have the resources and inclination to actually enforce it? Maybe, but that depends on the LE in question. And that only applies if ads stay the way they are today... if advertizing sexual services is illegal, then we simply do what's already common in the US: "Money exchanged is for time and companionship only (nudge, wink)." Problem solved: no sex advertized, no law broken. On the idea that this bill could kill the industry in Canada: well, I'm sure the government would love that to happen. But, really... look south. Even if this bill passed as written, the legal environment for sex work would still be less oppressive than that which exists in most of the US. Tell me, doom-mongers, are there no sex workers in the US? Are there no clients? And, bearing in mind the answers to those two questions, do you honestly think the industry will die here? It's called the Oldest Profession for a reason, and it's survived worse than this. Now, that's not to say there will be no effect at all. We may end up with a more US-like situation where providers have to be more careful about screening clients, and clients will have to be more careful about which ads they respond to, and newcomers on both sides of the fence will probably find it harder to get established. Some clients and providers may well be scared out of the industry, and it may decline in size as a result. But it will continue; I have no doubt about that. My gut feeling is that enforcement of whatever finally becomes law will, as today, be mostly aimed at street workers and their clients. Let's face it, this is about politics, and what drives politics is public opinion... and what drives public opinion is what the public sees. The man in the street probably doesn't know that the nice lady in the apartment upstairs is a sex worker, and therefore he won't complain to either LE or his MP about her; he's going to complain about the lady in the short skirt on a street corner, never mind the fact that she's just a random person meeting a friend for a night out and not a sex worker at all. Finally: as many have noted, this is all obviously going to be struck down by the SCC on the same grounds as last time, provided we can get plaintiffs for a test-case (or maybe two; it strikes me you'd need one case for the laws aimed at clients, and one for the laws aimed at providers). Sure, most people won't want the publicity... but it only needs one or two courageous and determined individuals. And a decade.

NOT JUST GUY'S ...I am an agent, and female, don't think the law will state "guy's" ....it is ANY one other then the SP/MA that will be illegal.

Backgrounder on Bill C36 - "Protection of Communities and Exploited Persons Act" http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?mthd=tp&crtr.page=1&nid=853729&crtr.tp1D=930 This only just happened. It's just a first reading. Summary and explanation of the proposed bill from Pivot Legal Society, who worked on the Bedford SCC ruling: http://www.pivotlegal.org/the_new_sex_work_legislation_explained

This sounds like a lot of fun. I'd say yes in a heart beat to an outing like this.

Books are AMAZING! It's a weird thing, it's either all or nothing with me. When I get into reading mode, it's all consuming. I will read a book a day for weeks on end... and then it stops as quickly as it starts. I consume the complete bibliographies of authors in a single period, much like tv series marathoning has become the thing. Recommendations? Ian Rankin - The inspector Rebus series and the Malcolm Fox series. (19 books and 4 books, two interlaced.) Rebus is a crotchety old Edinburgh cop with relationship and alcohol problems, he drives a crappy car and is often seen in yesterdays clothes... but you like him. The mystery series is fast paced and gritty but ohhhhh so good. Alan Bradley - The Flavia DeLuce series (6 books). If you loved Harry Potter, you'll love Flavia DeLuce. She's a precocious 11 yr old chemist/evil genius in a crumbling English manor solving crimes in 1950 England. Like Harry Potter, it's an all ages adventure that has moments for everyone... and best of all Alan Bradley is a Canadian author with enormous talent. Christopher Moore - The man is hilarious. His 15 books are filled with a compendium of the most interesting characters, in the most interesting of situations and some of the most inciteful humour you will ever read. His best is "Lamb, The Gospel according to Jesus's buddy Biff." Industry related? Michael Faber's - The Crimson Petal and the White. An amazing story centred around a London prostitute named Sugar. It's long, but if you are a true reader you won't be able to put it down. It has been adapted and altered as a 4 part mini series. The Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire series by George RR Martin - You watch it religiously, read the books to see what happens in your head before you see it on TV. The books are long... and book four is not the easiest to read, but by the end of the 5th book you will truly appreciate the series even more. Just hope old George finishes all seven books before he kicks the bucket....

You should:) She has amazing boobies and I'm sure many other qualities that'll make you or any of the other gents happy men. Any of you who ask about a lady I hope would be generous enough to reco about your experience if worthy so others can also enjoy and so the lady in question can benefit that way everyone wins. Happy hobbying:)