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Like literally two hours ago, and it was great! As of this morning, I was a 26 year old virgin. I never felt ashamed or unaccomplished being a virgin, I had reached this point as a choice. But I was not confident with intimacy, most if not all girls I've met have been pretty sexual or have a sexual past which always intimidated me (I never saw them lower, but felt a bit in awe). I avoided relationships because I was worried about the physical intimacy part, I was going to fall flat on my face. And I created this mind block. I noticed a few threads on this forum about guys who are virgins looking for an SP, but there was no mention if they went through with it, and if they did, how they felt about it. So I thought I'd share for anyone who are in the same shoes I once was. In a nutshell, I loved the experience, and I have no regrets. I got in touch with Peachy a week ago, and explained that I was a virgin, and that was something I wanted to change. She was incredibly thoughtful, and put me at ease with asking her to take me to the other side so to speak. I was nervous, actually, I was anxious for her to come. I booked 3 hours, and I asked her to stay an hour longer once she was here (I was having a great time and didn't want to rush it). So my reasons for doing what I did. 1) I'm more confident with safety when it comes to the women here then the general public. If anyone knows about safety, these ladies do. This was my number one priority always (even before I came up with this idea) 2) I wanted a positive non-judgemental environment (at least in my mind). I didn't want to think and over think everything I did, and with her, I was more then comfortable. I was able to explore, try out stuff that I wouldn't have done with maybe a girl I was dating. 3) I was confident in asking her how I could be better. And I took everything she said constructively, and it was a lot better then I imagined! 4) Confidence! I met this girl a couple of months ago that seemed to be very interested. Back then, the old me kept things between us friendly but non-sexual. I think given the situation now, I'd act much differently. My confidence in this department took a massive beating the last couple of years for reasons too long and boring to share here. I feel as if one evening took all of that self doubt away. Downsides? I don't feel as if there were any. I don't feel any regret, or remorse or anything of that sort. I was hoping when I asked Peachy was that she be someone awesome (I've read some stories here about people having soso dates). Peachy was AMAZING in that she was so understanding about my fears, and newness. I bring this up because I found her through going through pages and pages of reviews. There are some awesome women here, but I found one with very complimentary reviews, and it worked for me. Which I guess leads on to my next part. Would I recommend a virgin meet an SP? To each their own. I wrote down a list of reasons why this would be a good idea vs a list of why this was bad. My bad side of the list had some religious objections, but then the good side had religious support for getting help any way possible (my confidence was shot). There are some that say that this experience should be with someone special. And I think that applies for some people for sure, but I treated this as a learning/therapeutic visit more then anything else. The rate I was going, I was not going to be able to meet that someone special ever. Recommendations: 1) Take your time, read reviews, talk to who you are interested in 2) Take your time, don't book just 1 hour. For the first two hours, we took it slow, talked a lot, and made it more intimate. 3) Figure out your reasons. I was brand new at this, and I think if this is your first time, trying to go into this to fulfil a fantasy might be putting too much pressure on you and her. Just explore the sensation, explore your body (I discovered things about my body I was pleasantly surprised about). 4) Tell her you're a virgin! And that's when you first get in touch with her, not when you meet. I can't think of anything else. This being a recommendation board, this is mine :)

I made the biggest, baddass dagwood sandwich ever ....at work. Yummy ! Thats a highlight. Then I walked out of my office and my button popped off and my god damn pants fell down :shock: :butt:That sucks ! Any of you ladies sew ? ;) I will book pronto ! Additional Comments: In response to Angela's comment below...Very funny :) But where I work I wear fire proof clothing....VERY EXPENSIVE. Don't think Walmart sells them...besides I like shopping and Walmart particularily about as much as liver and onions and spinach...which is nada...zilch...don't like ;) It is very important that I wear fire proof clothing because when there is a gas explosion and I am thrown 100 feet or more it is important my legs and jumblies don't burn !!! lol seriously folks. I do appreciate the suggestion Ang. I will give Samantha Evans, my Croation Penis Warmer business partner a ring dingle and see if she can not only knit but perhaps sew on a button ;) Unless there is somebody closer than Vancouver ?

... well it is, if you offer your CERB ID as verification to get around identifying your more personal details and there is little or no posting history! A recent thread by VictoriaJolie about posting history being one tool providers use to get to know a client inspired this post, and since this one is more general in nature, I've decided to post it here. As a client, we usually know much more about the lady we are planning to see, until we make an actual booking and provide the information she requires in consideration of our request to see her. I am in amazement of the effort and diligence most, and especially the well-respected, SPs/MAs go through in screening and verification. With a modicum of information and references, they must decide if they will grant your request for a meeting, based on a myriad of factors and a 'gut feel' about you, the person, never having met prior, and not knowing too much else besides these few bits that they ask for in their ads or on their websites. I believe that the majority of clients on the board are sophisticated and wise to the ways of treating the ladies with respect, having read widely among the various forums, but there are some bad apples out there. How is a provider to know from whom she is getting an inquiry or booking? You will fare much better if you give her signs and assurances of your good intentions early on and by playing by her rules. Don't forget, she is sharing her most intimate self with an almost complete stranger and is entrusting you to do your part in that bargain. We both want the same things, but providers, beyond needing to feel safe, of course want that encounter to be in an environment where they themselves are comfortable to give you the best time of all - and so you should care, too. Contacting a lady for a booking and showing with every action and word (rudeness, brashness, ignorance, laziness, etc.) that you haven't bothered to check her website or ad post is the first red flag to the lady that there may be things she doesn't know that would worry her if she did, and this puts her on guard with you right from the start - generally not the best way to initiate a dialogue. Taking care to consider all the points of etiquette and following her preferred method of setting up an appointment will make the lady's life much easier and will assure her that you take her concerns for safety and peace of mind to heart. It will be like magically becoming a lottery winner ;-), meaning that she will appreciate when you meet that you had already established yourself from the start as a respectful and diligent client worthy of her time. I know it is not everyone's wish or goal to become an active and prolific poster, but it does help the ladies get a glimpse of the person behind a handle. Having no posts doesn't. Just think of the ways in which you select the lady of your choice - maybe by her beautifully written ad, her many glowing recommendations by other clients, her gorgeous photo album, or the well-crafted website that she spent so much time building. There are other ways to distinguish yourself and get a good or even high standing besides that, of course. Which route you choose to take is yours to decide ... but giving her the comfort level about you - in one way or another, making her feel like you respect her wishes and her need to feel safe and at ease, will put you miles ahead right from the start. And that is likely to reap significant good will on her part and generally, IMHO, yield to better client-provider relations! Pun absolutely intended! ;) A #nobrainer? I think so! :D FR P.S. Apologies for the intial 2-paragraph ramble. It's mostly all been said before in different ways, but it helps to refresh this from time to time in the 'New to this?' forum.

Guess I should have mentioned that, for myself it is already a given, never ever would I continue with a session if someone seemed to show signs of some type of STI. CORRECTION-Health 1st, then Hygiene :)

Question was for ladies but I am surprised no one mentioned general health!!! For me when I see any signs of sickness like sore, wart, pimple (sometimes even as a result of shaving but I ask what they are) I back off. I am sure this must be a factor when a lady decides on the services mentioned by OP (especially bare services like BBBJ). Of course hygiene and attitudes are important too but those were mentioned already.

So, am I reading this right, are you saying hygiene is important?

B Man...a fellas first post in history and he wants four girls to go south.. Mod commented quickly ...kudos. Leave 212 out of it and consider agreeing with many that it was a ridiculous fucking post :)

About Organic Produce-I thought this was interesting,maybe you will too. Organic produce has become increasingly popular in recent years, as consumers have grown more health conscious and environmentally aware. Many stores and supermarkets now have large sections devoted to organic fruits and vegetables. WHAT MAKES PRODUCE "ORGANIC"? Contrary to what most people believe, "organic" does not automatically mean "pesticide-free" or "chemical-free". In fact, under the laws of most states, organic farmers are allowed to use a wide variety of chemical sprays and powders on their crops. So what does organic mean? It means that these pesticides, if used, must be derived from natural sources, not synthetically manufactured. Also, these pesticides must be applied using equipment that has not been used to apply any synthetic materials for the past three years, and the land being planted cannot have been treated with synthetic materials for that period either. Most organic farmers (and even some conventional farmers, too) employ mechanical and cultural tools to help control pests. These include insect traps, careful crop selection (there are a growing number of disease-resistant varieties), and biological controls (such as predator insects and beneficial microorganisms). ORGANIC PRODUCE AND PERSONAL HEALTH When you test synthetic chemicals for their ability to cause cancer, you find that about half of them are carcinogenic. Until recently, nobody bothered to look at natural chemicals (such as organic pesticides), because it was assumed that they posed little risk. But when the studies were done, the results were somewhat shocking: you find that about half of the natural chemicals studied are carcinogenic as well. This is a case where everyone (consumers, farmers, researchers) made the same, dangerous mistake. We assumed that "natural" chemicals were automatically better and safer than synthetic materials, and we were wrong. It's important that we be more prudent in our acceptance of "natural" as being innocuous and harmless. ORGANIC PESTICIDES VERSUS SYNTHETIC PESTICIDES Clearly, the less we impact our environment, the better off we all are. Organic farming practices have greatly advanced the use of non-chemical means to control pests, as mentioned earlier. Unfortunately, these non-chemical methods do not always provide enough protection, and it's necessary to use chemical pesticides. How do organic pesticides compare with conventional pesticides? A recent study compared the effectiveness of a rotenone-pyrethrin mixture versus a synthetic pesticide, imidan. Rotenone and pyrethrin are two common organic pesticides; imidan is considered a "soft" synthetic pesticide (i.e., designed to have a brief lifetime after application, and other traits that minimize unwanted effects). It was found that up to 7 applications of the rotenone- pyrethrin mixture were required to obtain the level of protection provided by 2 applications of imidan. It seems unlikely that 7 applications of rotenone and pyrethrin are really better for the environment than 2 applications of imidan, especially when rotenone is extremely toxic to fish and other aquatic life. It should be noted, however, that we don't know for certain which system is more harmful. This is because we do not look at organic pesticides the same way that we look at conventional pesticides. We don't know how long these organic pesticides persist in the environment, or the full extent of their effects. When you look at lists of pesticides allowed in organic agriculture, you find warnings such as, "Use with caution. The toxicological effects of [organic pesticide X] are largely unknown," or "Its persistence in the soil is unknown." Again, researchers haven't bothered to study the effects of organic pesticides because it is assumed that "natural" chemicals are automatically safe. WHY HAVEN'T WE HEARD THIS BEFORE? For obvious reasons, organic farmers have done little, if anything, to dispel the myth that "organic = chemical/pesticide-free". They would only stand to lose business by making such a disclosure. Pesticide manufacturers have little concern in the matter. To them, "synthetic pesticides sold" and "organic pesticides sold" are both "pesticides sold". As for conventional farmers, they are not really in a position to be critical. It would not be in their interest to draw attention to chemical and pesticide use. WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN? The purpose in writing this article is not to discourage you from buying organic produce. It is only meant to let you know what you are or aren't getting when you make such a purchase. Unless you know your grower personally, there is no guarantee that your produce has been grown without pesticides or other chemicals. It's a point to consider, given the substantially higher cost of organic foods. There are many choices and decisions that we, as consumers, are asked to make. Hopefully, this has provided some new information that you will find helpful. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- A formatted MS Word version of this document may be downloaded at: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/-lhom/organics.doc The data describing the carcinogenicity of natural and synthetic compounds are referenced in Gold, L.S., et al. (1992) _Science_ Vol. 258, pp. 261-265. Many thanks go to the Organic Crop Improvement Association for their cooperation in this study. The OCIA has chapters in AZ, AR, CA, CO, FL, IL, IN, IA, KS, MD, MI, MN, MO, MT, NE, NM, NC, ND, OH, PA, SD, UT, and WI. Thanks are also extended to the California Certified Organic Farmers, the Ohio Ecological Food and Farm Association, and Oregon Tilth Certified Organic. (The appropriate information has not yet been obtained from the Natural Organic Farmers Association (NOFA), but it is almost certain that all facts stated here apply to their products as well.) The following state Departments of Agriculture have also been very helpful: AL, AK, AZ, CA, CO, DE, FL, HI, IA, LA, MD, MI, MS, MO, ND, OK, SC, TN, VA, and WA. States with no laws governing organic products include Alabama, Delaware, Hawaii, Mississippi, and Tennessee. Read about other food issues. Back to Lou's Home page

i am in this situation right now. but will never say anything as i know how this is supposed to work and i dont want to make her uncomfortable in any way. she is very sweet and treats me nice.

Love, I think it's great falling in love whether it's with a professional or not. But, I think you have to keep your perspective. The vast majority of people who are part of this community maintain two identities, one that you share during an encounter and the other when you're off the clock and at home. So I think it's of the utmost importance that you realize which person you're really think you know.

Yea I'm with MrGreen here. It is a business transaction and they are a sexual practitioner whose job (and what you are paying for) is to please you. As with anybody or any situation it is always ymmv but nothing is more respected than kindness. Let the experience fill your soul and soothe your savage breast and leave it there.

Good morning gents,I am available for your pleasure today till 9pm in the west end of ottawa.Im a DDD,curvey brunette with dark hair,few tattoos,Sexy curves ,green eyes and a killer smile.I aim to please but first i tease!.I am offering a erotic,steamy shower to start and warm things up,followed by a firm massage to work out all your kinks with my soft hands,I welcome mutual touch as we should both enjoy each others company.Did i mention i have a warm firm place that can exciting to unload all your days stress?.You can feel free to reach me @ 613 265-2505(call or text) MY RATES....(special rates for bookings only) 30 MINUTES=30$ 45 MINUTES=50$ 1 HR=80$ MY WONDERFUL REVIEWS http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46157

Pay special attention to backfiring. Noxious fumes from unmuffled exhaust can be overwhelming, and have a detrimental effect on your mileage. Additional Comments: Would that be a singular hairy ball or the whole bag of balls? Additional Comments: It boggles my mind that that in modern times, a man can grow up not knowing enough to skin it back and wash it daily. Peachy is right on about this. An sp friend told me that with some uncirced guys, even otherwise very clean guys who showered in the morning, by the time she sees them they are stinky cause they don't wash properly. Just remember, the only good headcheese comes from the deli, and is good for lunch with rye bread, dijon mustard and garlic dills.

I'll tell you this much, organic rice is worse than regular rice. Organic rice comes from areas of the US where once stood cottonfields, which were heavily dusted with arsenic as a pesticide way back when. The arsenic stayed in the ground and is absorbed by the organic rice. Same goes for "organic" prepackaged foods which contain brown rice syrup. Google "organic rice arsenic". All those organic health bars are crap anyway, loaded with way too much sugar. Indian and Thai regular rice is the best, I seem to recall. Quite a bit of regular produce is fine, as it's minimally pesticided. Here's a handy reference: http://www.ewg.org/foodnews/list/ I prefer organic more as a way to steer clear of GMOs than pesticides; I hate being a guinea pig.

You have brought up a great point, CH. General health is the most critical issue in my opinion. To me this may not be a case of ymmv. If a SP sees an open sore or cut, or that a client is sniffling or coughing, I am sure she would call it off, ie., no service. I am sure most people know about this and that may be why this "Health" issue has never been brought up when ymmv is being discussed. My 2 cent worth.

I think you're right, Dan can and probably win. IMO if Ian doesn't take Dan out this week Dan will probably win. Ian has come on strong the last few weeks so I don't think it's a done deal Dan would win against Ian but I believe Dan's funeral duped everyone and they will probably think if Dan could get away with that move he deserves to win. Worst possible scenario Dan or Ian doesn't win.

It's a service and a business transaction. Initially it can take some time to figure this out and I'll admit it did for me. Providers are supposed to make you feel special, it's part of the gig. And good ones make you feel very special.....until the times up. Peace MG

Your Mileage May Vary So basically it doesn't matter if you drive a VW Bug or a Porsche. Make sure it is always clean and through the car wash just before having a lady passenger. Make sure you wash all those hard to reach spots and the nooks and crannies ;) Make sure everything is in tip top shape and have a routine checkup. Always have good tires so you don't have to be a tire kicker. When you decide a little extra rub down and pampering is needed...don't negotiate the price... really decreases mileage...sometimes to 0 mpg It is better to have a quiet engine and not one with headers and dual exhaust that is loud and noisy. Muscle cars don't typically get the best mileage. Remember the bigger motors can get good mileage but more often the motor size doesn't matter....it is how good of a driver you are :) When you are changing the oil....always always wear a rubber glove Most likely when you drive away you will be smiling and waving at everyone ! Well I do :) And for God's sakes....Do not backfire when you have a lady passenger

Well a few celebrity ladies... Catherine Bell (JAG) Mariska Hargitay (Law & Order SVU) Kathryn Erbe (Law & Order CI) Julianna Margulies (The Good Wife) Shania Twain Halle Berry Just a few...but I haven't been "visiting" as much since embarking on this lifestyle :-) RG

It's a periodic table... Also I am pretty sure the bench is unstable.

It is easy, Paradise Spa explained it perfectly, hit edit button then go advanced button, change the title then press save, presto, finito! Thanks also Rg for your input, hugs

Troll. Ignore. My $0.02.

Head cheese is a case for ymmv no service.lol

I just realized that I wasn't very clear on this, I'm single and looking for a SP with her male partner (couple) to do play a fantasy where I will be made the cuck...

You are right Lee. I really didn't pay much attention to the original post as it was so ridiculous, that said, international travel companions is something I have done in the past and plan to do in the future but never would I attempt it in such a lame matter :)

My experience, has been to always behave like a gentleman. Mind you for me that is how I always behave especially with ladies Another way to put it, you are seeing a lady, so treat her like she is a lady Irrespective of the fact that at it's root this is a business, and the ladies' livelihood, remember to respect her and appreciate that it is a lady that is allowing you to be intimate with her. Remember to behave appropriately, in other words behave as a gentleman who is seeing a lady and you can't go wrong A short rambling before bedtime RG

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I completely agree with what Angela said. For ymmv the way i decide is never on physical attributes but your level of respect, cleanliness, whether or not you read my website which clearly states everything i offer as well as rates and how i expect you yo show up for our encounter. A true gentlemen always does better than a conceited Mr.know ot all

For me, it's mostly attitude, manners, hygiene and respect that determine YMMV rather than physical attributes or someone trying to tip me to do something I'm not comfortable with.

yeah it's a scam, not ONE of those women will be taking care of you no matter who you request, there's likely only 2 or 3 women available who will go by whatever name you wish to call them, they are also likely older by about 10 years than the age stated. The photos on the website are stolen.

Hey kiddo, I am not a service provider and am a virgin only in i have not seen a service provider yet, hopefully this year. So that said I can provide you with this advice: 1. This would be a wonderful way to lose your virginity, at least better than ten minutes of pumping and rolling off and leaving which was my first experience. 2. Understand if you go through with it though these wonderful women will likely be more tender, giving and in tune with your needs than a woman say you later fall in love with and date. I say this so you don't set this as the bar that you expect all women to follow, these women get paid for their companionship because they are the best at what they do, trust me, not all women have the guts they do. I would advise if you go to an SP for your first time, that you take time to learn how to be generous with a woman while you are there. This is a tool that will get you far in life! 3. You are like me in that we have not taken the plunge into meeting with an SP. Be careful when you are talking to them that you are upfront about your ability to meet. I have contacted a few to get rates while doing my research, but I am stuck right now that husband has said no, at least no for now. so i stick around because it will happen one day,and because i admire the women and their empowerment, but they know the score with me. Advice: find the one you want and go for it, if you have nothing holding you back except for nervousness....okay short story: i was a virgin at aged 19 and wanted to get laid. i called those phone lines to meet other people in your area. (party lines, before internet). I made a few appointments with men to break my virginity (not service providers, just horny men). I got so nervous i didn't show for a few....whatever that's okay i was young and while disrespectful meh, but the ladies here are different, this is their livelihood so if you say you are going to be there, then be there. end of that rant is the dude I did meet on the phone chat line who did take my virginity, well it was awful and as he was leaving I said to him "well you certainly helped me decide if I prefer men or women". :) Good luck, sorry for long answer!

Bee stings! :(

I would strongly advise to fallow all this advice here. As for the question if she would be taken advantage, etc....my experience, a lot of ladies who do not know the biz well do tend have a sign above their heads that reads: "new and have no direction" so some men do prey on this! It would be wise to go with a reputable agency, or at least have her read the criminal code word by word, have her inquire herself, and read the new to this section! It is a good industry to be in when you have the right info and the right mind set for her and for you as well. Money is not everything when it comes to health, safety and love:)

In the spirit of the upcoming US presidential election, I'd like to share one of the most memorable exchanges between a candidate and supporter. For me, it sums up beautifully and painfully the challenges of running for the job of leader of the free world: Supporter of Adlai Stevenson: "Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person." Senator Stevenson: "That's not enough, madam, we need a majority."

YMMV means better looking guys get better GFE. Maybe its a bit negative to say so, but its true at least in some instances